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Well first of all i don't think we are short of campaigns. I can read about bitcoin news very frequently featured on mainstream channels. One thing that actually held us back is the damage to the reputation that we have suffered over the years. Mt gox, scandals you name it. These will turn newbies away.

You shall add lack of people willing to take risks, and go illegal. I've asked a few of my clients to pay me with BTC, and they declined the proposition. Why? Because, that would not be legal. They are corporations and they need to keep their accounting books clean, in one single currency.

bitcoins not gone mainstream because;

a) its a solution looking for a problem, ie people don't have a need for what it does.

b) its too complex for average joe's


all the marketing/promoting in the world ain't going to help. even if you manage to drag people kicking and screaming to use it, after using it they quickly discover using bitcoin completely sucks 

painful to hear but lets be honest to ourselves.

I'm a teen and i can approve this 
I need some extra money to buy some stuff but i don't see any good method to earn bitcoin that is friendly to teens
The only good method that i found so far is sig campaign, and it hasn't gave me much money

That is why the adoption phase has to be careful, if we make a bad impression on the mainstream people, then we might lose momentum.

Who know what kind of crap demonizations they figure out next time (i mean the mainstream media) to demonize and halt bitcoins progress.

We need to take a more friendly and factual marketing style. For example the bitcoin v2 youtube video is pretty damn good, but I dont think that will catch most people's interest, who aren't already interested in fintech.

Sorry but we also need to take a populist style, so all promotional videos can reach all kinds interest of people, or make more videos for each people.

EX:

-Women:  Show them the social side of bitcoin, how can you transfer money to your friends, or if they are mothers then they can accept donations for their children. This is a  good marketing side

-Teens: Show them how easy it is to earn money autopilot, or just to some small tasts and earn money. All teens are broke and they need some purse money to go out with the friends, so it is a good approach.

-Wealthy: Show them how secure bitcoin is, and how they can safely store their wealth digitally, and that after 2016 bitcoin will have the lowest inflation rate amogst all currencies

etc... you get the idea. Each group like different sides of the bitcoin, but the differences makes the community nice and diversified.

I think this is the right approach to promote bitcoin

Well yes I can see the bitcoin inflation issue, but that will be less next year. And even now its only about 9.09%% YoY, the USD yearly inflation is already over 11%:

http://www.chapwoodindex.com/

Then it can be transferred almost for free, while bank transfers are very expensive.

Then it has no capital controls.

Then it doesnt discriminate based on sex, religion, political views, etc..

And so on, I already made a list of this in the GOLD vs. BITCOIN thread in economics sector:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-or-gold-508270

Seeing as the current financial system is likely headed for a collapse in the coming years you won't have to wait that long. Be careful overselling people on Bitcoin as we are now experiencing the damage false expectations can have in regard to the block size debate and the anger of those who thought Bitcoin was a replacement for VISA.

Undersell, overdeliver.

I couldn't agree more on few points that you mentioned , really .
Now for what comes to the games for example , Most games are related to Xbox which means Microsoft accounts or PS4 which means Sony or PC which means Steam , so those companies need to start accepting bitcoin or we have no chance I assume , and Gabe already stated on the past that they may not use Bitcoin or cryptoo currency in general (at least not soon) .

For what comes to mobile apps we can't deny the fact they have millions of users aswell however those games are related to either Google Play or AppStore and both those two don't accept Bitcoin for in-game purshase and as far as I know both of them never stated anything about Bitcoin so I don't see any intention on strating accepting BTC very soon .
What we should do is make a website like GooglePlay and AppStore with our own games (we need developpers for that) and those games will accept Bitcoi nas payment method only .

Now for earning Bitcoin part , there is a lot of possibilities honestly and the biggest could be Freelancer website that accept Bitcoin only (there is some but they have no advertising or anything so no one really use them)  because there is no such as thing till now (Fiverr isn't really considered as Freelance website IMO) .

Good point there, i forgot the herd mentality.

Its obvious that the rich will join the boat first, they always do, they are opportunists, thats why they are rich.

And after they made alot of money, the sheep will then follow their leaders too and join.



However we can accelerate this process, i dont really want to wait 20 years for bitcoin to start, when it can be done in 3-7 years.

You are getting close...

Bitcoin will be adopted by rich and wealthy long before "maintstream" catches on to it. By all account this accumulation has already started and should continue.

Don't be concerned with selling Bitcoin to the masses as if somehow that is what will give it value. The masses in general are not so wealthy and even combined the capital they can trust into Bitcoin is infinitely small compared to the 1%.

The 1% don't need apps, promotions campagains, newbie guides, search engines or MORE TRANSACTIONS. Bitcoin as it exist now, as a deflationary censorship resistant store of wealth will serve their interest perfectly as the existing economy erodes and they make their way for the exit.

then the only hope to turn average joe to bitcoin, is waiting in the fiat collapse, i'm sure there is something around other than the hope route

primarily you do not need to export all people from fiat to bitcoin, but you need to catch the interest of the most influent, the minus ones will follow

secondarily bitcoin can aim at being a simply good and effective, alternative, for those who hate fiat, which i'm sure will grow in number

Promotion campaigns.... will you people stop trying to turn Bitcoin into a startup ?

Bitcoin as a consumer retail product is currently incapable of competing with traditional alternatives and it will remain so for a couple of years.

Stop trying to sell regular joes onto Bitcoin it will never work. They really don't care and they are very happy with their fiat.

Is it? Ideally it would be better, but currently it's not. You can't just say it's better and offer no reasons why. Tell me why would my parents or grandparents want to use bitcoin? Heck, why would my friends even want to use it? It loses value more than it gains. If you get hacked your money is gone for good. You can barely buy anything with it. Why would they use bitcoin when they can just send paypal around the world without fees too and they're covered of anything goes wrong. Bitcoin isn't this magic perfect money machine as much as we want it to be and we need to accept that currently the 99% of people have no use or benefit from it whatsoever and thats going to be the big problem and why I made the phone comparison. People don't need to upgrade their phone if the new one doesn't really offer them any noticeable benefits. There are certainly benefits for certain industries like the remittance market but that's no use to anybody I know.

That is true.
There are a lot of examples of that with the biggest being Windows over Linux.

I think point 2 is the main issue.

The majority of people need to first go through the hassle of buying Bitcoins in order to spend them, which doesn't make any sense...

In my opinion the wallet service providers need to be incorporated with major Bitcoin sites. When you join a new game, and you know nothing about Bitcoin... you account

creation should be seamlessly created for you, with one of the web wallet servers. People should only learn about Bitcoin when they realize it is real money and they can buy

at 150 000 merchants worldwide. People are getting more lazy and wants things easy... They do not want to learn about Bitcoin in 15 hours of research.. Make it simple. 

What do you mean it doesnt benefit us at all?

Bitcoin is better in any shape or form that the current banking system.

The only issue i see for consumers is the lack of stores accepting it + the points I addressed in post #1 which is tied o point 1) somewhat.

Yes they wont use it if they cant spend it, and its hard to buy with all the KYC requirements, but other than that its much better in any aspect.

I know people are dumb and lazy, thats why we need to address my point, and with that we can overcome the inertia of the masses.

I don't really think this is a worthy comparison and is very extreme. It's like swapping your phone for a slightly different model but one that doesn't benefit you at all so you think why bother. This is how most people will feel because bitcoin doesn't really offer my parents or grandparents anything at all. Why would they benefit from using it currently? Sure it's great for the politically minded and us but for every one else it's probably just a liability and unnecessary.

Great post, and I agree with most of it, but most of all with the "Bitcoin earning opportunities" section. That is what got me into Bitcoin and what gets many people in. It has took me lots of research and effort to earn Bitcoins and still many of my earnings come from risky methods (high yield investments) and from regular paid ads put on my blog.

The microtask potential of Bitcoin (to pay fractions of a cent for doing small tasks) is underdeveloped.

I think the adoption should happen naturally. I am a proposal of bigger blocks but not at the expense of losing the possibility of decentralized nodes. Even with millions of people using Bitcoin, if Bitcoin's nodes can only be run in specialized servers and people at home can't run a node, that would mean the original idea of Bitcoin as p2p money failed, so we must know what we are doing before putting it in practice.