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Following discussions outside of this forum, whereby I was provided with reasonable proof showing Enjin Pte Ltd., Singapore, was considered a going-concern as at Financial Year-End June 2016 (2017 Accounts not being due yet), albeit with the clarification that the six named staff, Josh Woelfel, Lilia Pritchard, Vyacheslav Volkov, Brad Bayliss, Chris Hirasawa and Evan Lindsay, are full-time contractors as opposed to permanent salaried employees, I am satisfied that the concerns initially raised have now been sufficiently addressed and will be removing the negative trust ratings accordingly.

This is not an endorsement of either Enjin Pte Ltd. nor the Enjincoin ICO. The matter concerned ensuring that the project was being described correctly and in terms of the two specific issues of financial health and employees, this has now been addressed.

I will be locking this thread to give people time to view the resolution and will then delete it.

There has been some misunderstandings and some posts were removed by us which caused the situation to escalate. I hope to clear this up, and we'll be showcasing our development and code progress in the other thread soon.

But this thread is in the Scam Accusations section... that will necessarily make people think Enjin is accused of being a scam, and it already has, despite your stated desire to the contrary. If the goal was just to cast doubt on their ICO model and the viability of it as an investment (which would be totally fair and legitimate), it would have made more sense to go about this differently. Why jump to calling something a scam when you could just say that you think it won't succeed, which is a categorically different accusation?

I understand you’re coming from the angle that everything is a potential scam unless proven otherwise and I do agree that a good significant amount of ICOs fall within that range and should be questioned by the community and contributors. I do find this thread unfair to our hard working team as it is categorized under the ‘scam’ forum category and they don’t deserve to be labeled that way.

In regards to team size, clearly a platform such as Enjin requires at least some developers, marketing and support staff.

We’re not listing a massive team here. We listed one marketing person (Lilia:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/lilia-pritchard-30b2b2148), one qa / support person (Chris), 1 network / security admin person (Brad) and the rest of the team are developers.

We have even more staff that help with support and community management and other various tasks that are not listed, as they will not be involved in the Enjin Coin platform.

To assume that Enjin can operate without even a single person in those critically required positions is unreasonable and is not a realistic red flag for a service of our size.

I believe you misunderstood the claim we made regarding the ‘many millions’, so let me clarify:

Enjin provides an ecommerce module (similar to shopify) called DonationCraft and Enjin Store. This virtual store module is used by many thousands of clients (gaming communities) to sell virtual goods to players, here is an example of store from a 1 million+ user community on Enjin called Mineplex:

http://www.mineplex.com/shop

You can find many more examples by looking at the community list here:

http://www.enjin.com/communities

This store module features a number of payment gateways, such as Paypal, Coinbase, Stripe, etc.. and will feature the future Enjin Coin Payment Gateway. The combined USD value that all store modules process on a monthly basis is in the millions. We do not receive this money directly, we provide the store system, tools and gateway integrations that processes this flow of funds including the custom CMS / Forum system.

In regards to Enjin, we provide website plans for gaming clients, this is how Enjin Pte Ltd generates revenue and has done so for the last 8 years:

https://www.enjin.com/pricing

Enjin Coin will be deeply integrated into Enjin as the first step in our adoption plans and will allow anyone to create a fully gamified website, forum and store with virtual goods creation and management on the blockchain for the key reasons we outlined in our whitepaper:

https://enjincoin.io/enjincoin_whitepaper.pdf


I’d like to make this clear, we are not promoting this ICO on the strength of our business, but rather on the strength of our smart cryptocurrency concept as defined in our whitepaper. The ability to ignite mass adoption on the Enjin network is a huge bonus that we hold, that seldom any other ICOs hold.

I find it somewhat ridiculous and utterly unfair to create this requirement for clearing up the false ‘scam’ accusation, and should rather be requested in our main thread to boost contributor confidence (with this one removed).

Saying that, I don’t see an issue in providing a statement to any potential contributor or anyone interested from an auditor that verifies that Enjin Pte Ltd is a profitable viable business and does not have any unfunded liabilities. Please check my PM to you regarding this.

I hope we can finally clear this up and I welcome your future posts in our main thread.

@witek I preferred to leave you at the weekend so that you can reflect on what is happening, and question yourself. To reply to your previous message, you still made the mistake of diluting information which is dishonest, you wanted to compare the traffic of enjin to that of bitcointalk, both platforms are entirely different. Bitcointalk is a forum, Enjin is a gaming platform. You could have also compared the traffic of a big bank to Enjin's traffic and see that even if Enjin has a better traffic, the bank generates real revenue, whereas you do not.

I preferred to compare Enjin to other game platforms, Enjin is almost twice lower in rank compared to others.

I have a question to ask you, you want to have the game developers use enjin in order to launch their games on the Enjin platform, tell me about a single profitable game that consulted you and that you launched and especially who is in the TOP 50 of the MMOs (I did not say the first 10). Because you say that game developers will consult Enjin in order to launch their product while you do not have enough traffic.

What investors will gain apart from a rapid devaluation of the price. Your company works with hypes, we understand that you have taken advantage of the hype of minecraft to gain in traffic and users, you want to do the same thing with ethereum to make you money, listing a token for 40-50 $ M is way too much, and it is your own token and your own platform.

Why don't you implement ethereum directly as you will have to do it regardless of the token as you will need node communications with Ethereum, it would have been more interesting for you to implement cryptos directly and bring them on your platform, and then, develop your smart contracts and token, it would have been more professional and adapted. While you go directly for a crowdsale and token, which shows the wish for easy gains which is verifiable.

The loss will be covered by the tokens distribution to your partners in order to help with the token adoption.

I will give you the example of a smart person, have a look at bitdice.me They are excellent, very fluid, you may find 50-100 people connected simultaneously, and yet they have a current profit of 2300 BTC, they have a Reputation on the forum. After gradually adding the cryptos to the platform they decided to launch an ICO to transform the platform and evolve to a new form, but they have a long experience in cryptos.

In the end, this ICO serves only to your team without any real counterpart to the investors.

I chose not to follow through with my warning to participants of the signature campaign, at this time, because the Enjincoin team were sufficiently pressured by the existence of this thread and being marked themselves that we are at least getting some responses from them about the issues concerning the credibility of the claims they are making. They were warned not to continue deleting my posts in their moderated announcement thread and they chose to ignore that warning, hence the action which was taken to bring them back to the table was, and is, justified.

As for idiotic ad-hominems being thrown at me about why I don't rate [insert sketchy ICO here], too, if anybody has legitimate concerns and evidence which would warrant such I will be more than happy to take a look. In any event, accusing me of wrongdoing based on not exposing all crypto scams in existence, or by having an ulterior motive for personal gain in targeting specific ones, is just vapid nonsense. If the issues I am raising about an ICO and its team are legitimate then they need to be addressed, irrespective of the emotional backlash being hurled around this thread.

Let me repeat what I stated in the OP, I do not consider this ICO a scam, per se, as Enjin is clearly a platform which has been in existence for several years. The fact is that red flags concerning the size and scope of Enjin Pty Ltd, such as their claims towards the number of full-time employees they have and the profitability, or otherwise, of the 'many millions' in sales they claim to make each month, justify being called out because similar ICOs, equally conducted over a very short time-period, have fraudulently misrepresented their size and scope through utilising the names and profiles of 'employees' who were absolutely not who they were being represented as by the ICO team and neither was the underlying commercial entity. This is why I have brought up the matter of the employees and the stats showing the 75% drop in visitors across their network.

As has been said by somebody else in this thread, and something I agree with, this ICO would be a terrible investment for many reasons, but I have not raised this thread because of that. I have done so because the red flags I mentioned show a high risk that the promoters of this ICO are being dishonest about the true financial state of their company. Their actions in response to my questioning was alarming and constituted another red flag.

It is down to them to prove the legitimacy of their business operation, as they are the ones asking the public for many millions in investment.

With that in mind, there is one very simple way for them to validate their supposed size, scope and viability, and that is to provide audited accounts, or a statement from their auditors, which would serve to prove the size, scope and viability they claim. "We don't have to" isn't a rebuttal. The fact that you are promoting this ICO on the claimed strength of your business operation actually raises a serious issue which does not affect other ICOs for which the investment is designed to fund a project from scratch, namely, that you potentially could already be running at a loss, or have unfunded liabilities.

So, given that fact, the curious matter of the non-existent web footprint of some of your employees outside of your own platform, plus the proven loss in userbase for the last three years, the persistent claims your team make about the many millions in sales you are turning over in the run-up to what is a very short period of time to launch an ICO do not sound credible. As I already said, if you were making good profit on those many millions in sales you wouldn't need to be running an ICO at all to fund this project.

Let your auditors show your business is viable, is of the size and scope you claim and does not have any unfunded liabilities and you're good to go.

Disagreed. You obviously aren't aware of how the trust system works nor how similar cases in the past were resolved. He could have just proceeded, after being censored, to leave a negative rating to all participating members. However, he was kind enough to post a warning first.

Relevance? This seems like a provocative statement, which makes the situation worse.

No, it most certainly would not. His reputation ain't fragile enough for a single mistake, especially not this "for profit project" to destroy it.

Don't censor valid questions and criticism, especially not from DT members.

Hi jeffthebaker,

Thank you for the feedback, and using Enjin Let me respond to your points.

We want to make a useful token that isn't just hoarded but one that can be used, for things like virtual game items, privilege / access tokens, community rewards and as a currency to trade for other virtual items. There's a lot of "hodling" and "betting" already done in other cryptocurrencies - we want to focus on the challenge of giving ENJ users and other gamers thousands of different ways to use the token.

There are endless possibilities in gaming! It's finally an ecosystem where cryptocurrency can be used practically. The key to adoption will be providing easy to use toolsets and platforms to everyone. The blockchain currencies for gamers haven't even scratched the surface imho, which is why we're creating Enjin Coin. The system of minting items with reserve value in ENJ is incredibly flexible.

Here is a fun example. We've recently partnered with IEBC (the Integrated Engineering
Blockchain Consortium) to explore what can be done with Minecraft (Industrialcraft) + Enjin Coin items to create simulations of the engineering process. IEBC is publishing some articles in the coming weeks describing how using Enjin Coin with plugins like this can create a process to incentivize bright future engineers who were born and raised in massively-networked online environments. They believe that these hive networks of players can do it better than the archaic 8-level management hierarchies in engineering. It reminds me of the book Ender's Game https://www.enjin.com/partners/iebc

We are reaching out to many game developers with the goal of finding cool new gameplay mechanics that would be well-suited for Enjin Coin game assets. Just imagine the possibilities in bringing your inventory across to different games and servers and having some continuity. It might sound like a long-shot when you think of game currencies as simply "buying vanity items with coins", but we see a lot more potential here.

Regarding ages, our largest active demographic is in the 18-25 age group (2017) and there is a very large number of users in the over-25 age groups. These groups would be very open to cryptocurrency and are usually technically-savvy.

The Enjin Coin platform and toolsets will be integrated into keys parts of Enjin (mainly the rewards system, forum votes, automations and Virtual Stores) and won’t present any hurdles in getting started. We want to make it fun and incredibly easy to use in the end, so anyone can start minting and managing custom tokens and items.

Finally, while you may see some buy-back initially for game server incentives, this is actually a good thing. It is the seeds for an economy. We're not simply randomly distributing coins to communities, we're going to be working closely with game developers and game communities to build interesting gameplay mechanics, rewards, and items using Enjin Coin. The good ideas will stick, and we can continue developing features and frameworks around what works.

If you have any further comments or ideas, let’s continue in the official thread.

Hey guys, I'd like to input my two cents. You may have seen on the front page one of my forum posts embedded in someone's deleted post. I am an active user of Enjin (though not nearly as much as I used to be- more on that below) and also one of the first to express my doubts about the project.

Now, from an investing standpoint- I think Enjincoin is a terrible investment. I don't think Enjin will be able to market or even make their userbase (who are gamers and children, not crypto enthusiasts) acknowledge Enjincoin. I think their plan for adoption by giving Enjincoin to communities is going to fail- I think many communities are going to have buyback programs for the Enjincoins they hand out, where players can trade back the coin they earn for incentives within the community- thus defeating the purpose of having players actually use and trade the coin.

With that being said, I do not think it's fair at all to consider this project a scam. While I'm personally cynically on the need for an Enjincoin to achieve these purposes, I think the team of this project is more than legitimate, and I think the product they set to create is easily tangible and will come to fruition. I could not say this about 95%+ of recent and current ICO projects.

In regards to the dropping playerbase, I can attest firsthand to, in my opinion, what is leading to this decline. The people who used to play Minecraft are not the same as the ones who play now, and those who play now play differently. What I mean is, all the servers millions of people were playing 3-7 years ago all shut down, and they all used enjin. To give you a firsthand example, this is the enjin community for a server I primarily played on for many years. Notice how the home page has over a million impressions. Thousands of people played on here. http://thesavagerealms.enjin.com/ It's been down since 2014 I believe. This isn't a standalone incident. All the popular servers (a majority of whom used Enjin) have been overtaken by a more casual brand of Minecraft, one which does not really sustain any forum activity. Beyond this, the few popular servers modeled after the old ones I've run across have implemented their own dedicated forums. This can be attributed to more professional servers (popular minecraft servers make millions of dollars, which has translated into more professionals being on board server teams) which have the resources to build their own websites and forums. With that being said, there are still popular servers that use Enjin. Here is one I play on from time to time: http://www.dungeonrealms.net/home

Basically, what I'm trying to say, is that although I'm very skeptical of Enjincoin from a financial standpoint, I'm not sure if it's fair to accuse it of being a scam. This is a company with millions of users that has been around for about a decade. I'm not sure if that could be said about any other ICO team to date.

Here's proof of my enjin account, which I've been using for maybe 6 or so years: https://www.enjin.com/profile/1221375/wall?sesstoken=7b4aa4bda749fb6730c6d73e0180a09f

I agree with you. I prefer to be neutral on this thread, because these accusations have not been proven so i am skeptic.
Deleting posts is pretty shady however always (if the messages are not spammy), and i hope enjincoin team stop doing this, because it is not very liked on the forum.
I personally think that Cryptodevil is kind of threating people for the wrong reasons. I hope the situation gets solved quickly, so i can continue with peace of mind.

@CryptoDevil: Not only is it bullying the members of the signature campaign, but such a post is highly advantageous for your cause as it is just an open threat that is meant to deter people from joining the campaign and encourage them to leave the campaign. I can tell you right now that you would not dare to give negative trust to any of the members without giving them a proper warning and proving that Enjin coin is truly a scam. If you did give members negative trust without a proper warning, that would cause a backlash in the Bitcointalk community and destroy your reputation. And if these allegations that you are working with Nemgun to destroy Enjin coin’s reputation (mind you I am not saying that these accusations are true; they may be as baseless as your accusation against Enjin coin) then this is evidenced in this post. So to prevent people from suspecting that Enjin coin is a scam coin (let’s say that Enjin coin is not a scam coin as it has not been proven yet), John70 deleted the post. Moreover, I would also like to point out that there is no rule against deleting posts in a moderated thread. Everything that John70 did is completely within the forum parameters. So I have no idea why you have chosen to charge user “John70” with negative trust for that. I don’t that is fair on the Enjin coin team.

Let me make 3 last important points on this thread. If you wish to talk further about Enjin Coin, I welcome anyone here to join us in the official thread.
Let’s start with traffic comparison to put things into perspective:

Point #1 Enjin is 5 times bigger in traffic than Bitcointalk.org:

See the Evidence here:

Bitcointalk https://www.quantcast.com/bitcointalk.org?qcLocale=en_US (US RANK 5011)
vs
Enjin https://www.quantcast.com/p-e2f9QTuI7ynec (US RANK 1003)
and that is not counting the mobile traffic we receive since launching our Mobile apps here and here.

OP how do you think we grew to be 5 times bigger than Bitcointalk (the largest crypto forum in the world)? Everyone on the team worked hard to make it happen.

Let’s move on to more facts:

* 18.6 million gamers
* 250,000 Gaming Communities
* 54.1 Million Global views in last 30 days (Jul 13 2017 to Aug 11 2017)

Check our Features here: https://www.enjin.com/features
Check the communities that use Enjin: https://www.enjin.com/communities

Point #2 Enjin Coin does not need Enjin. Enjin is just a huge supplementary bonus to Enjin Coin. An established business of 9 years and provides Enjin Coin a huge gaming market to initiate instant adoption in. Enjin Coin and the Enjin Coin Platform is for all gaming entities and will expand far beyond Enjin itself.

Our whitepaper defines exactly why and how we’re making this crowdsale. It will be up to investors to judge us on that merit. We’re very confident in our ability to execute and with extensive experience in this industry, we know what problems to solve.

Point #3 Enjin is bringing Cryptocurrency to the masses, focusing on world-wide adoption, to make it easily accessible for your average gamer and gives them the benefits of the entire ecosystem. We have been building features and tools for 9 years, we are solving real problems. We don’t expect everyone to understand the intricacies of a gaming community, which is why our white paper has detailed some of the problems that this will solve, and yet OP did not properly read this, or even ONCE discussed any of the features of Enjin Coin. Enjin Coin solves problems within the gaming space and adds on an amazing adoption plan (Enjin) that most ICOs do not have.

If you have criticism that is legitimate, we are more than happy to discuss these and gain knowledge and insight from a respected community as this, but at this stage, it appears nothing but a few members ganging up because one person didn’t have his opinion taken on board and he’s throwing a tantrum (and was rewarded for his toxic behavior). We would like to see the real side of Bitcointalk please.

Let’s understand what Enjin is proposing, and complete proper due diligence, including visiting the links that have been provided throughout this thread. Stop throwing around and repeating loose accusations that have no merit and have all been completely destroyed.

The team at Enjin will be working hard to achieve our development plan, and we look forward to interacting with real authentic members of this community.

I forgot to mention, i though about Stratis because of your c# dev, it have nothing to do with Solidity (ethereum). Once again, i never needed your developer for NVO, maybe you understand now why i said Stratis, regarding bitcoin, it is in C++, most of the c# devs know about c++.

You are insulting by pretending that i pay people, lauda, cryptodevil, even this guy, i never heard about. As a community member everyone checks for the different project, it is the proff of everyone's experience on the forum, for enjin you had to buy an account who was supposed to post images, and now you play the different accounts, it is ridiculous, and disordered.
Lauda and Cryptodevil are some of the forum's pioneers, Lauda is in D2, it is not that easy to get that rank in bitcointalk, and have been a moderator in this forum, Lauda have a long experience of the crypto world, he is one of the operators of the IRC channel #bitcoin to let you have an idea about his importance in the crypto world.

Regarding your developers, i never asked for your help for NVO, we don't need it and NVO is going well, you want to compare our projects ? even the most famous exchanges wants to be decentralized because of the regulation and all the problems brought with it. NVO works the same way, a fully decentralized project, like Bitcoin. While Enjin is an ERC20 token working for a centralized company, we spoke about the price of the TOS, I gave an approximation as it is not my domain, and you corrected me on that point and i agreed with you. On my side, on a decentralized point of view, you don't need a TOS when you download a decentralized client, as you don't need TOS when you download the Bitcoin client.

I asked to know the languages used by your developer in order to give guidances about the right technology to use, to fork, libraries, daemons communications ... I was even ready to support financially this developer with my personal funds as long as it is for a good decentralized project. As everyone in this forum, or people who know well the cryptos will tell you that it is far better to work with a fully decentralized platform instead of a token, or a semi-centralized process.

Have a look at NVO : https://youtu.be/Tgb5Z1Zb5OM

I made this video for you, we are far above in the technology and advancement, you want to list an ERC20 token on your centralized platform, so you ask people to help you list your token, on your platform, it is totally banal. Even compared to your competitors, other gaming platforms.

Faceit : http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/faceit.com
Enjin : http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/enjin.com

You can check the difference, i am not talking about steam, in this case, enjin is looking for the game developers, and the reverse. Enjin said that it took advantage of the Minecraft hype which explains the growth, but at the same time, you have a lot of games with about 2M users, which means that it is not reliable for the game developers, they will better sign with platforms who can bring 20M users to their game.
You had 2M unique visitors over a month, the question is, how many simultaneous gamers are using your platform, or, do you have enough simultaneous players in order to attract the interest of the next game developers.

The coin who have to be used to buy items and other stuff have a too high price. You can check faceit who already have experience with that, gloves worth 5$ are sold for 10k face, which sets the price around 0.0005$. And as i said, they have a better experience in that field, needless to mention that your users will need ethereum in their wallet which complicates it more.
Since you decided to move from 66% to 80%, it rises the collected amount to around 32M, your 20% are not included in the calculation i think you should list it on yobit and forget about it, it is the most expencive token listing i ever seen in my life.

Understand that this community have a brain. I don't advise you to insult reputable members of the community, you bought an account, you are new, it is not a problem, but don't insult people.

You clearly did not. Read my reply to Cryptodevil regarding who handles our marketing and social media. Go on http://www.enjin.com/forums and ask who Lilia is. Go ahead, I dare you. Thousands of users know who she is on Enjin, or are you going to assume that they are fake too now? Btw she is on linkedin now: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lilia-pritchard-30b2b2148/

Your bias is clearly showing and to even suggest pausing the signature campaign is downright ridiculous (stop hurting the community with your flawed mindset). Don't fall into the Nemgum mental trap of delusions, or is he paying you too? The more truth that is uncovered by this community the more clarity is opened towards who the real scammers are here: Nemgum, cryptodevil, lauda you should be ashamed of your actions and corrupt attitude. You now only bring toxicity to this community and allowing the real scammer get away. Anyone who spends any time reading this thread and the other threads Nemgum defaced will come to this conclusion. It's obvious and evident now.

Nengum, why did you repeatedly ask Witek to have our C# developer help you develop the NVO project? I suspect the NVO project is in deep deep trouble, no recent updates, no code commits, all you do is spend your entire day trolling and bullying people online. Focus on being a positive member of this community instead of just an empty shell of hate. Get over the rejection, not everyone wants to work with someone like you.

I could say the same about you, why you are so convinced that Lilia needs to fake her identity? LOL
Are you an alt of one of the people accusing Enjin? I doubt you read the whole thread otherwise you could clearly see accusations are baseless.

And the team will do a hangout so worry not, the mystery will be solved. (If anyone still has doubts)

Hopefully the Enjin team and Lilia don't mind me posting her pics, again below.

Enjin's website picture:
https://i.imgur.com/x8MBVVg.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/Ddx0j7i.png

Lilia's hello to the forum:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.enjin.com/81/20170810_162322.jpg

They look very, very similar don't they? Maybe it's me only that sees the resemblance?

PS: I got so involved in this that I'd like to see it end eventually, everyone satisfied with Enjin's proofs and NEMGUN leaving them in peace. That's all.

I did read the whole thread.

Explain then why this Lilia woman is a social media expert, but has no social media whatsoever? According to you, they don't need it. Oh wait. Their whole job revolves around social media! Best case scenario, she has been operating under a fake name. Worst case scenario, she is just a hired actor.

I'm not trying to hate on anyone. I'm just saying that this ICO for everything BS needs to be stopped. If they can provide proof that they are all part of the team plus all competent at what they do(e.g. proof that lilia is a social media expert) then awesome. I'll wish them luck with the ICO. But if the community decides to just give up criticizing ICOs for scammy or dodgy behaviour then people are just going to get scammed, and these shit ICOs are just going to keep popping up.

Why are you defending them? Look at your post history. You literally posted like 15 shitposts on offtopic in june and then come back alive and all of a sudden defending Enjincoin with long essays.

You just read the OP you didn't read the team comments, there is very good proof the team is real.
Just read the thread properly don't just read one side of the story.

It's all in this thread, nice and easy and well explained. And no a professional of even 20 years doesn't have to have an online account if they care about their privacy or they don't need it.
And no, these 3 people have Enjin's own forum accounts, Slack accounts, etc, with thousands of posts.
There's even a picture with Lilia holding a "Hello Bitcointalk" sign that matches the picture on the website as well as videos with her voice from 7 years ago.

The Enjin team said above they will be doing a hangout with their team members so everyone can see them live.
Hope that puts a stop to this nonsense. It's becoming silly now.

The signature campaign is still running because nobody believe the accusations, simple, and because the team has proved they are untrue even though there are still attempts at dragging this along.
People are not stupid, a successful company that exists since 9 years, that has millions of users, hundreds of gaming communities and it's one of the leaders in the space... It's not a scam.

Maybe you should look at the website before assuming: https://enjin.com

But this is off topic here NEMGUN, nobody wants to hear your suggestions for Enjin, let alone the Enjin team.
Why you keep repeating this? Shows you just want to keep discussing anything else but the fact that Enjin ain't a scam.

This thread was setup by Cryptodevil because there were two issues, 3 people with no online profiles and Enjin network traffic stats.
Now what? You are trying to convince them to change their plans?

Come on grow up and let it be. Look at your own project, uses Counterparty LOL Such blockchain token, much development!
Time to step aside and go back to your own business. I wonder if anyone else is of the same opinion...

This all started because of you. Are you obsessed with Enjin, are you having wet dreams about it?

I just read the OP and I personally completely agree with cryptodevil.

When someone has 7, 10 years of experience in something, they must have some sort of presence on the web right? It doesn't even need to be social media(but hey, any professional should have some sort of social media to showcase their resume, e.g. linkedin), it can be mentions in other projects and whatnot.

IMO this is something that is overlooked time and time again, people assume that these are real people, without searching up the names themselves. And more and more ICOs are starting to do this...

It's like hiring someone on fiver to do your video, and in use their photo. It's done, just search it up. Ponzi scammers use it all the time to make themselves seem legit.

BTW, why is the sig campaign still running? Why hasn't Decoded stopped running it, even though there are obvious indicators that this may be a scam? I wouldn't go as far as tagging everyone advertising for Enjincoin, but the manager has to stop running the campaign when legitimate suspicions like this arise.