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Lilia and Chris don’t use their full names on social media or any external website that I know of. If they are on social media, their accounts are private and I respect their choice for setting them that way. I’ve already made that clear before.

There is a point where you need to accept Enjin has multiple staff and Chris and Lilia are part of the team. For us to invent false identities and names for Lilia and Chris, gives us no benefit whatsoever.

They cannot go back in time and create public social media accounts for you.

They are both in our slack channel, you can converse with them anytime, or give them a call. Why would we make up the names of our staff, that also relate directly to years of post history on our network.

We didn’t create Enjin in 2009 thinking we would create Enjin Coin and therefore needed an elaborate scheme to build a marketing and support personas. This is laughable and clutching at straws now.

Their forum profiles on Enjin interacting over the last 8 years with thousands of other profiles online is not something we have cultivated for any reason but to support our customers.

Who do you think manages our Enjin Social Media accounts? https://www.twitter.com/enjincs and https://www.facebook.com/enjinsocial

Who answers support threads on our forums https://www.enjin.com/forums ?

Who handles our Zendesk support tickets https://www.enjin.com/support ?

Who is providing support at https://enjincoin.slack.com ?

Who partners with major gaming publishers and executes marketing campaigns? such as: https://twitter.com/RevOnlineGame/status/870671371780722689 ?

Who writes our blog posts? https://www.enjin.com/blog?page=3

Who writes our support articles and guides? https://support.enjin.com/hc/en-us

Who supports all these communities? https://www.enjin.com/communities

Who directs the content and marketing on Enjin? https://www.enjin.com

Let me know if there anything else I can do.

I totally get your point there are lot of trolls in most ann thread but this was no joke what you could have done is solved the issue first and then delete. I had seen crypto devil post on the signature campaign but now it isn't there and for me if i was going to invest in your ico i would surely backout i mean who knows how many accusations have to deleted in the past.

It's better if you stay out of this your posting some messages we need real images of the people and some slack proof which is confirmed by someone who is supporting a potential scam won't help in any way. You will obviously have a bias opinion towards the company.

Ok, let's review your responses after having taken the unwise decision to try and shut down the conversation and go on a post deleting spree after you were advised not to. I trust you now realise how dumb that was for a group of people who are shaking the collection tin in the hope of convincing people to send you in excess of twelve million dollars.

First, stop making reply posts whereby you falsely claim to have already sufficiently answered a question or accuse me of having asserted things I did not assert.


1. Please show where I insisted you did not have any real traffic. Of course, I don't expect you to do that because you already know I did not at any point say that. What I did do, and what you persistently avoided answering to, was to highlight the fact that your own stats show a dramatic decline of 75% of users in the last three years. So stop dishonestly misrepresenting what I said.

2. You did not clearly and repeatedly explain anything concerning your staff beyond your insistent mantra that these three people I highlighted were 'totally real because. . .forum accounts'. I also pointed out to you that posting a picture of [e.g. insert one of your girlfriends here] and claiming her to be 'Lilia Pritchard - long time employee', is not exactly difficult to do, especially with twelve millions dollars+ at stake. So, no, it is not unreasonable for you to be asked to provide for evidence beyond that which is easily manipulated by you.


At no point have I said you did not have any staff and your attempts to ridicule valid questions concerning why the people you name have no web presence outside of your own forums are, again, a dishonest attempt to blithely dismiss the seriousness of the situation.

Before I reply to the reasoning you give for the 75% decline in users, I would like to better understand this issue concerning the fact that the actual names 'Lilia Pritchard' and 'Chris Hirasawa' provide for next-to-no google hits. In that I have already explained that the existence of various long-standing forum accounts within your platform is not evidence of who may be using them, it is essential for there to be a sufficiently removed, as in not from a part of the internet you can manipulate, source of data which can serve to show that 'Lilia Pritchard' and 'Chris Hirasawa' are real people.

So, with that in mind, I would ask you to submit links which show 'Lilia' and 'Chris' as real people from websites that are not related to you. Don't keep insisting they do not have any social media accounts, that is a risible claim to make for obvious reasons. If they are concerned about their privacy you can send me these links by dm and I will verify them privately.

Good job, just two profiles to prove and answer the rest of the questions, like the 14% who are realocated so quickly and the impact of that decision regarding the long term goals you had about the distribution, and if it affects the original vision or not.

Lilia asked me to upload this image since someone here is assuming she is not real. She finds it humorous that you would assume a company as big as Enjin would not have any staff to market and support the millions of users on its platform.

Maxime, you would have left Witek talking, he is better then you when it comes to avoid questions, while you, in two posts you proved the project is a scam.
I will quote all your messages and show you that each one is close to a scam definition.


That means the pictures you brough doesn't belongs to them, nor even the names.


Chris goes from a support to QA/community manager, you should have put Lilia at this position as she is the support manager.


This one is most coherent profile, yet he doesn't have a picture, i love the simpsons too, but even his name doesn't exist.


Lilia goes from Support manager to Marketing/operations, you are right, womens are better in marketing, that's right (conceived idea), sadly she doesn't exists in the social medias.



As you said, they are pseudonames and fake pictures that you puted here (check the quote) as their real names are generally not used in public social medias.

1st Scam, stealing pictures from people who are real, identity theft.

7 years of support, they are just profiles. Usually the supports never stay for too long there, they use to be changed really often, which lets me thinking they are just profiles created by Enjin to assume a task, but as you puted them in crowdsale, it is a double scam as they are robots profiles.




There is more simple, you could ask Lilia, Brad, Chris to say "Hello world" in a video and publish it.


Stop acting like Golum, asking for a private conference call. Even your supporters are asking for a public video and you are still asking for something private.


What is that delirium, you go from 66% to 80% so easily, who is this crypto adviser ? You will loose credibility, and thanks cryptodevil for pointing to that.

Conclusion triple scam, just for these histories of %, you want to play with people's money.
You are worst than joffrey in game of thrones, you send Witek to reply, and then you post non sence behinde him to show your authority with what you posted, you confirmed the shady behaviour of Enjin.

Neg bomb is coming.

Here was my previous quoted reply to CryptoDevil about Lilia, Chris and Brad. I also offered Cryptodevil an invite to a call with the team on voice or video multiple times and he ignored me regarding that. CryptoDevil, If you are genuine about this, then I'm more than happy to arrange a call with the team and yourself. Let me know a good time and what timezone you are in and I'll arrange it. We can also discuss the new changes we're making regarding % of tokens dedicated to the crowd sale as you had some relevant suggestions on that topic.

I don't know if anything that I say will assist this operation but I would like to bring your attention to the Enjin coin slack. I searched up Lilia on the database and there seems to be the same woman that you are talking about.

Link: https://enjincoin.slack.com/messages/@lilia/ - no reply to my message so far (has replied and has sent a photo. It is the same as the one posted below)

Brad exists in the slack app too: https://enjincoin.slack.com/messages/@brad/ - no reply so far (has replied)

So does Chris: https://enjincoin.slack.com/messages/@chris/ - I messaged Chris and he did reply.

Their slack link is: https://enjincoin.slack.com/

I can also vouch for the existence of Maxim and Witek Radomski. Hope these links help in your investigation. Personally, I do not think they are scammers, but I will leave that to you guys. I can also vouch with proof for the existence of Lilia, Chris and Brad

You are confused by the point I was making. I stated our overall traffic is growing since April 2017 (as per Quantcast data) and our Client Base is growing and bigger than ever. By Client Base I mean paying and free clients (The Owners of communities, NOT the members of a community), there is a huge distinction between the two. Clients pay us for our plans here: https://www.enjin.com/pricing and can also join on the Free Plan. Clients are the users who make communities and virtual stores on Enjin. We don't control who joins the various communities. That's highly dependent on the client managing the community and the games currently peaking in that year (Minecraft made an insane peak in 2014 compared to all other games)

Each Client on Enjin creates a website / mobile community (free or paid) on our network, that community receives traffic as per Quantcast monitoring (The mobile stats are not reflected here!).

My point is this, we have more clients but they receive less web traffic. Each community is smaller in user count, therefore there is less traffic directed to that community. This is not indicative of Client or Community count on Enjin! Yes you can say they are correlated to some extent, but this is not the case when you have a catalyst like Minecraft (the biggest most hyped game) in 2014 pushing insane user traffic towards Client communities.

Why are Clients on Enjin showing less web traffic in 2017 than in 2014? here are the 3 main factors:

• The Enjin Mobile apps! Mobile is taking over web traffic everywhere. Here are our apps: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.enjin.mobile&hl=en and https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/enjin-community-for-gamers/id1103331595?mt=8
• Minecraft Hype - Minecraft traffic peaking in 2014 - Clients had a far larger user base of Minecraft players. Each community gained far more traffic since they had way more active users during the Minecraft hype years. Content modules such as our Wiki Module (used by certain huge communities), also pushed traffic.
• The https change, which disguised our recent growth and actual traffic. (See the post Brad posted regarding that)

I hope this clears up the traffic situation. To equate us to a scam because of the traffic changes on our Enjin platform (Minecraft Hype / Enjin Mobile Apps Released / HTTPS) is not fair and baseless. We are still one of the largest gaming website networks in the world based on our current traffic (US RANK 991) and growing in Client numbers and in user traffic (2017). The statistics are very clear on that.

Another note. I'm going to take on-board your criticism regarding the 66% offered to the crowd sale. We've discussed this with our team and advisors over the last few weeks and decided to change the crowdsale percentage to 80%. More details will be posted shortly regarding that.

A few of our team have access to our main account, and they deleted duplicate posts. I've informed everyone that we should not delete further posts unless they are duplicates or completely offtopic.

Our original thread in mid July was un-moderated but in a few pages it got completely derailed by trolling. We were forced to make a moderated thread as we wanted to focus on actual discussion about Enjin Coin instead of personal attacks, scam accusations and FUD. You can see why we decided to re-do the thread as moderated but we'll tread lightly and steer all of this into a positive discussion.

I have addressed every concern Cryptodevil noted above.

Let's agree to the fact that all the scam accusations against you are fake and crypto devil is simply posting shit then why in earth do you delete his posts on your moderated thread. I get it you are running a ico and it might have a bad reputation for your company but don't you think if you prove him wrong people will trust you more. Deleting posts will just make matters worse.
And how about you and you team uploads a video on YouTube for everyone to notice instead of a private chat.

Talking about blockchain again, exchanging items on your platform with tokens and smart contracts. You can't say that you are a blockchain item platform, you are a token who doesn't realise that functions.

Regarding the traffic, i find it weired that you don't track your apps traffic, especially when you want to centralize a decentraliazed system.

Alright, let's discuss traffic.

In our announcement and whitepaper we have only advertised our current 2017 traffic. You can see it directly on Quantcast here: https://www.quantcast.com/p-e2f9QTuI7ynec and linked in our Whitepaper here: https://enjincoin.io/enjincoin_whitepaper.pdf

Here is why we’re currently very happy about our traffic ranking:

Quantcast shows us peaking in 2014 and traffic dropping afterward. We had a US traffic rank of 732 in 2014 and now we're at 991 in 2017 (The rank indicates the number of sites receiving more traffic than Enjin. Currently Quantcast measure us as being bigger than all websites in USA minus 990). We can speculate on a few possible reasons for this:

• Minecraft's peak was in 2014 and thus a large wave of our traffic followed its popularity (check Google Trends for "Minecraft"). The casual gamers may have moved off to mobile games or other trends, but the hardcore gamers remain and game oriented businesses remain.
• Many users have been switching to our Android and iOS Mobile app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.enjin.mobile&hl=en and https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/enjin-community-for-gamers/id1103331595?mt=8 for accessing Enjin and Enjin Community forums. We've neglected to track our app traffic in our Quantcast traffic statistics. We have opened a conversation with Quantcast now to see about tracking this.
• Our traffic follows game popularity and cycles, with Minecraft being the biggest video gaming phenomenon the world has seen in 2014. We haven't encountered an game yet even close to Minecraft's popularity, but we're continuing to look for new opportunities and branching into new games, with smaller traffic but passionate communities.
• We changed to HTTPS across tens of thousands of communities, here is the reply Brad (our network engineer) posted to you:

Our Traffic is growing since April, including our Mobile Apps traffic. Here are the latest stats, which we provided to you and can be checked on Quantcast:


We made all the above clear in the thread, but you kept insisting that we have no real traffic, that our staff are not real (we even invited you to meet us in person or on video chat), even after we clearly and repeatedly explained and provided answers.


The only posts we deleted are the dupes you kept posting, while ignoring our answers. But I hope this discussion clears everything up.

Now, we are planning features for a number of new games, and we're working on some huge updates to the CMS platform, this includes Enjin Coin, a new frontend, and more updates to our mobile apps. We're here for the long game - we love gaming, and we are trying to innovate by bringing a blockchain item platform to gamers.

You can't expect a 9 year long continual growth curve to be the only factor for success, there are cycles in traffic and markets, just like our current cycle of growth starting in April. We are still clearly ranked as one of the biggest networks online. Minecraft was huge temporary growth, there was no way to retain all those users, and now we're back to pre-Minecraft hype with a better product overall. Despite World of Warcraft being much smaller now that it was a few years ago, we've replaced all those users.

View our development / news blog here to confirm:
https://www.enjin.com/blog

Our communities in the many thousands are there and highly active. View them all here:
https://www.enjin.com/communities

Watching closely. If this is not resolved positively in the next couple of days, I'll leave the signature campaign. I won't "shill" for a platform that doesn't deliver what they advertise.

So after painfully reading each user's long spiel (Do you guys really have to write whole page essays as responses?), there's three main points I've summed it down to.

1) Due to a gradual decrease in the size of your userbase in the last three years, it is tiny compared to what it used to be.

- I can't really say anything here, and I have not looked into it. Minecraft was still pretty big in 2014, though.

2) Deleting negative posts in Ann threads

- I admit, this is bad, and I can see why thulis would be a cause for concern. But now if he's answering questions here, I don't think this is a worry as long as proper communication is made, not just accusations and insults.

3) Having team members with very small names online, if any.

- Witek seems to have addressed the problem by offering to do a call IRL.

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I'll pause the campaign if this gets out of hand or is drawn too far out of hand.

I think we would all appreciate that.

But more importantly, I wouldn't support a campaign if I didn't believe in the project. So, please address the bolded:


Please be open and honest regarding claims about the userbase. And keep the conversation open: please do not delete posts that reflect negatively on Enjin. The platform and developer team has shown great potential. Don't sacrifice that.

All you did was ad hominem. You explained nothing, the same way you've failed to explain the concerns raised by OP.  That coupled with everything that has happened (massive censorship for example) makes this project highly shady.

Sketchy? You are an enjin shill and shouldn't comment on this as you can't control your own bias.

Glad to see replies from you guys, because i want to see the situation settle as quickly as possible.
From eyes of a 3rd party, this thread seems kind of sketchy (I know you understand).
But my main question was, would it be possible for example post the video on youtube or something, so it could be kind of Q&A at same time which you may use for promotion as well by showing how professional your team is 

cryptodevil,

One of your accusations is about us faking the existence of our team members. We are happy to prove everybody actually exists... Perhaps a Google Hangout with the entire team available to answer any questions?