Topic: Deleted posts in the Hardware BFL Thread, Double Standards, and Hypocrisy (Read 8366 times)

No, Muhammed, this thread is exactly where it belongs...

This thread is about BFL deleting posts. As these postsare being send by theymos, I thought that might end this thread. So I thought to post here.

However, I was wrong. This thread is discussing more about BFL than about forum-BFL issue. This thread should be in Service Discussion IMHO.

What does that thread have to do with this? Why do you insist on spamming every thread with useless replies?

Happy posting! https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bfl-subpoena-1027518

P.S. Can you please lock this thread for now?

You say so? But wait. You will be busy searching for useless posts, so you will miss the scam. Eh... you seem to have other priorities.

Agreed. Too much noise little signal especially in the last year.

How is taking the most recent posts cherry picking? For what it is worth I found the thread entertaining and I've certainly contributed to those triple digits daily views. But I also found it mostly off-topic and fairly useless in stopping / warning newbies about BFL's evil ways.

Now tell me again how giving my opinion equals losing a battle and how you've substantiated your claim "Hey, this thread backs me up!". At least you find my posts entertaining, I guess. So enjoy it!


All this energy was 5 minutes. I'm sorry that I don't know (yet?) of a way to put another nail into BFL's coffin in about 5 minutes. If I did, I'd hammer it in slowly just to make it more painful to them. They're scum and they seem so deluded that they don't even seem to realise it. Which leads me to believe they'll be back with a new scam soon.

You could have used all this energy to investigate BFL. You know that there is a lot to do. Keep up the good work and keep wasting your time fighting the people who you don't like.

Lol, cherrypicking doesn't substantiate your claim, pal. You should also realize that you aren't in good company since my claims are backed up by this thread. Talk about losing before the battle even started. LMAO! 

My statement is my opinion. I have read every post in that thread as it unfolded. You're asking me to back up my opinion. That would be fair enough if you had provided the same for your opinion that the vast majority (please correct me if I'm paraphrasing you wrong here) of posts in that thread are meaningful.

I'll humor you anyway, since it's so easy. Starting from the most recent post, working my way back up the page:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11069694 -> androturdusphilia
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11069615 -> androturdusphilia
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11069563 -> androturdusphilia
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11069544 -> androturdusphilia
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11069226 -> androturdusphilia

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11067652 -> Arguing if Bruno is a racist or not
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11067360 -> Arguing if Bruno is a racist or not
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11066861 -> Arguing if Bruno is a racist or not (Bruno actually tries to stop this derailment, instead derailing the thread onto androturdusphilia)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11066289 -> Arguing if Bruno is a racist or not
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11066201 -> Arguing if Bruno is a racist or not
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11066146 -> Arguing if Bruno is a racist or not
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11065967 -> Arguing if Bruno is a racist or not
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11065783 -> Arguing if Bruno is a racist or not

13 out of 17 posts...  Say roughly 75% is crap. There you go.

Side note: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11066175 -> Mentioning the argument is off topic. See, I'm not the only one that thinks the thread is cluttered. Quelle suprise!


Unfounded allegation. Do you see the irony?

Excuse me for trying to end my post on a lighter note. I don't like being sour. You can have all the sour grapes for yourself if you like them.

Sorry, but unless you can go through the thread, post by post, and explain in each case, according to explicit criteria, that such and such post is "useless" to give us a real percentage rather than uselessly gesturing that that is the case, you really are talking a lot of nonsense.

I'm pretty sure the mods are having loads of fun deleting posts in the new thread. Gotta make those bitcoins BFL paid regularly count for something, huh?


Very useless comment, but thanks for sharing! It would be a shame if someone reported useless banter sentence by sentence to protect the delicate sensibilities of those who have no reading comprehension. Censorship never had such powerful champions until now...

800+ pages containing a low percentage of useful post and a tonne of useless posts. Quite a few different topics being argued (since BFL fucked people over in quite a few different ways). That thread is a mess. I would have personally kept it open until BFL has to close up shop, but it was bound to be locked sooner or later.

The thread has definitively served a purpose though. And it still is there for reference.


Now where's the thread on Josh vs. Bruno again?

Reality and 800+ pages prove you're flatout wrong. The thread should've been moved, not locked.

The discussion needs to be had, but that was not a discussion.

Yep, I call bullshit to the naysayers, mods and non-mods. Think very carefully before you assume something is just "garbage". The topic is BFL and its lies, manipulations, etc. The upper management (many times the subject of mockery) played a not-less-than-99% role in what still struggles to survive off the backs of those fooled by empty promises. (Blaming those fooled is no different from blaming the victim of a crime, so be mindful of that as well.)

The discussion needs to be had, and preventing it helps no one but BFL. Knock it off with the holier than thou bullshit and let people discuss freely.

Bick, who are you to tell us we're all just the average person anyway? Get real.

FTFY

Speak for yourself. Over a thousand page views just in the last couple of days - since locking - disagree with your version...  

There was infinitely tooooooooo much crap he posted to make it useful to most people.

He needs an editor.

Even when he had good information it was often too much, poorly annotated and hard to follow for the average person and that was the point of the thread I thought to WARN people off BFL. Job done it worked fairly well but as BFL stopped making units and were no longer a player in the real marketplace the thread was properly characterized by CK as nearly worthless to most people and it was in the wrong section for over 2 years as it morphed into a scam thread as I said before.

I am trying to gather some of the posts I made in the past to organize that into something that the judge might want to read. What Josh attempted was plain amateur threat hour and when I met him in person about a year ago in HK he seemed to forget those threats so much so he didn't bother repeating them to my face. I wonder why? I know why he is a COWARD.

Anyhow the beat goes on there is still the FTC case and certainly there will be more real hard news to come out of all this and that is really what I would like to have as a thread. Something where you can follow along as these rat bastards get thrown jail. They deserve no quarter and none shall be given by the government I hope. Those consumers burned by BFL need a nice repository here to follow the story something that is self-moderated to keep out the chaff.

Well I agree with you Bick in some things. Gleb's contribution to this case is crucial and tremendous and that thread was pretty informative and humor kept us going. I ask you to join us and contribute as you have done in the past. You have had a very bad experience with BFL. I personally think that you should write to the judge of what Josh has done to your family. You would only be telling the truth.

I said the thread should have been locked and filed under trash what almost a year ago?

Surprised it lasted this long.

No great loss just rehash all the same stuff in the service thread or wherever you want.

Personally I would prefer to read about the LEGAL side of things that XIAN posts and people discuss the rest of the "drama" somewhere else as it is extraneous. There really should be a new SCAM thread started and repository of all the ins and outs of the legal side posted there at this point and it belongs in Scams really. It have to be self-moderated to cull all the shit out as the Mods don't need that hassle.

Gleb should start his own BFL style thread and people wanting to indulge in his explorations of everything BFL can go there.

At this point in time BFL is done like dinner so the noise to signal was not really helpful to anyone other than those who were getting the inside jokes about "chickens" and what not.

Meh.

BFL were shitheads. We all get that now.

Why were certain things deleted? FEAR makes perfect sense if someone threatened legal action. We would not be privy to that information if it were a PM to a moderator or such. Not really an issue seems like all the dox info is back up in this thread right?

There are battles with inconsistency in Moderation all over these forums. Suffice to say the Mods have room for improvement on many fronts. The BFL fucked us over thread devolved into a scam thread that is clear. Should have been removed. I think there as a fear as well of the REACTION if it were moved.

Again Meh... start a new thread. Enjoy the FTC demolish BFL and see a few of these morons get jail time. Here is hoping the ratbastard who threatened / libeled me and doxxed XIAN gets time.

*cough* speaking on something they know nothing about. Read Badbear's posts, they pretty much sum it up. If more spam is being added than good information, then the spam dilutes the thread making good information harder to find, making the thread less useful for its intended purpose. I dont know why anyone would think the staff here would protect BFL, I'd be willing to bet a few of them got scammed by BFL, and if they didn't, then they were heavily annoyed by the 2013/2014 BFL drama. I find it hard to believe that there would be any good will towards BFL. No Staff are afraid of BFL, and we aren't going to get sued by them. If Theymos recieved the DCMA notice, that probably would have been public knowledge. And thats if he decided not to fight it. Pretty much all of the Bitcoins that the forums are left holding after the new forum software is for emergency necessities. Legal fund falls into that description. I dont think anyone is getting bullied by whats remaining of BFL, and I'm pretty sure we have no reason to protect them. If thats the case maybe what was said in the first place is right? Nah keep making theories up, the first answer can never be the real one right?