He was posting in a Butterfly Labs thread, and derailing, ergo, he had SOMETHING to do with Butterfly Labs, even if it was a passing interest in joining the discussion.
Thanks for confirming. 
Topic: Deleted posts in the Hardware BFL Thread, Double Standards, and Hypocrisy - page 9. (Read 8354 times)
January 05, 2015, 01:38:31 PM
January 05, 2015, 01:30:09 PM
You are essentially backing and supporting Josh Zerlan of Butterfly Lab's doxing of myself, Bick, and PL with this argument, and you are saying "That's relevant and acceptable" but a user being doxed for derailing a Butterfly Labs thread gets COMPLETELY whitewashed ?
Nope.So your argument here is someone that has, as far as anyone can tell or has alleged, absolutely nothing to do with BFL being harassed with ten pages of nonsense posts is ontopic in a BFL thread because Josh-- a third party-- treated you like shit in the past? Just making sure I'm clear about your line of thinking, because it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
He was posting in a Butterfly Labs thread, and derailing, ergo, he had SOMETHING to do with Butterfly Labs, even if it was a passing interest in joining the discussion.
Would you not agree ?
Define harassment ? Would you not agree that taking pre-order monies, not delivering products for months on end, and then antagonizing their customer base on these forums with his legendary bad behavior constitutes harassment ? Economic violence even ?
Lawyer dude decided to poke the bear. He was doxed for his derailing in a BFL thread. He cried harassment when he was unmasked. You came in on a white horse to his rescue.
Is this an accurate read ?
I'm not clear on your line of thinking, and what you are trying to rationalize here.
EDIT: Also, how on God's-green-earth is this thread not considered harassment, and should be deleted by your own standards (Information is hacked, stolen, published for the sake of harassment and intimidation, and allowed to stay up)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=325772.5
January 05, 2015, 01:20:37 PM
You are essentially backing and supporting Josh Zerlan of Butterfly Lab's doxing of myself, Bick, and PL with this argument, and you are saying "That's relevant and acceptable" but a user being doxed for derailing a Butterfly Labs thread gets COMPLETELY whitewashed ?
Nope.So your argument here is someone that has, as far as anyone can tell or has alleged, absolutely nothing to do with BFL being harassed with ten pages of nonsense posts is ontopic in a BFL thread because Josh-- a third party-- treated you like shit in the past? Just making sure I'm clear about your line of thinking, because it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
January 05, 2015, 01:14:48 PM
"It's relevant because I harassed someone and had a fun time" is not an argument. 
You are essentially backing and supporting Josh Zerlan of Butterfly Lab's doxing of myself, Bick, and PL with this argument, and you are saying "That's relevant and acceptable" but a user being doxed for derailing a Butterfly Labs thread gets COMPLETELY whitewashed ?
Is this a correct read on your argument ?
Read: "The good guys/customers get punished, and the bad guys are allowed to continue with their bad behavior preying on their marks and derailing threads"
January 05, 2015, 01:11:37 PM
Furthermore, try posting Theymos' dox and see what happens.
I'm pretty sure we all know who Theymos is, its been mentioned many, many times. I know what you're saying, I'm not arguing for or against you - I was just correcting an error for others who may not be aware.
January 05, 2015, 01:09:43 PM
You don't care about "dox", but "coincidentally" removed every post containing the specific information pertaining to his identity, effectively whitewashing his "bad behavior".
Because it had, as far as I can tell or anyone alleged, _NOTHING_ to do with BFL. Quote
was relevant to the discussion, although the following 10 pages of BS were not.
How so? None of those posts of ten pages of animated chicken gifs and what not, appeared to make any claim to relevance. "It's relevant because I harassed someone and had a fun time" is not an argument. As far as I can tell 90% of this is intentional, controlled topic derailment. Y'all should be more critical about who you believe is on "your" side and who's been paying them to do what, I would be very surprised if some of the "BFL critics" hadn't been paid off by BFL; their constant lack of ability to conduct themselves professionally only makes everyone whos critical of BFL look stupider by association and the constant noise prevents finding any actual information.
Regardless, keep to the freeking topic. I am tired of the bad behaviour and I am tired of people ignoring requests to cut it out.
January 05, 2015, 01:07:58 PM
Bitcointalk is putting itself in a very bad light by the apparent conflict of interest and favouring BFL in this.
January 05, 2015, 01:04:40 PM
(Xian01 tells me that this thread was created because of messages I removed in a thread about BFL)
I don't know and don't care about "dox". I removed a ton of posts that have absolutely nothing, not even any claim, of having to do with BFL, that were basically making it impossible to find the one in ten posts that were actually about BFL.
For the abstract question ... harassing people is not okay, but there are limits to what can be done about it.
I don't know and don't care about "dox". I removed a ton of posts that have absolutely nothing, not even any claim, of having to do with BFL, that were basically making it impossible to find the one in ten posts that were actually about BFL.
For the abstract question ... harassing people is not okay, but there are limits to what can be done about it.
A load of bull-menure! The guy was deliberaty derailing the topic and deserved whatever he got.
Further more: see above about double standards...
January 05, 2015, 01:03:10 PM
Why is it that when a lawyer gets doxed and complains in a Butterfly Labs thread, all the offending posts identifying him are deleted, and bans are threatened, but when Butterfly Labs management doxes it's customers for complaining about their poor business practices, that information is allowed to stay up indefinitely.[...]
Good question, I second it.
January 05, 2015, 12:53:14 PM
I don't know and don't care about "dox". I removed a ton of posts that have absolutely nothing, not even any claim, of having to do with BFL, that were basically making it impossible to find the one in ten posts that were actually about BFL.
You don't care about "dox", but "coincidentally" removed every post containing the specific information pertaining to his identity, effectively whitewashing his "bad behavior".Yes, I understand that the BFL thread is a complete mess, but it IS relevant and having to do with Butterfly Labs when shills and antagonists are identified and their cloak of anonymity removed.
Would you not agree that perhaps you went a bit too far with the post deletions in this particular instance ?
Having the lawyer identified in that thread was relevant to the discussion, although the following 10 pages of BS were not.
Why not split it off into a Meta thread instead of whitewashing it ?
January 05, 2015, 12:47:43 PM
(Xian01 tells me that this thread was created because of messages I removed in a thread about BFL)
I don't know and don't care about "dox". I removed a ton of posts that have absolutely nothing, not even any claim, of having to do with BFL, that were basically making it impossible to find the one in ten posts that were actually about BFL.
For the abstract question ... harassing people is not okay, but there are limits to what can be done about it.
I don't know and don't care about "dox". I removed a ton of posts that have absolutely nothing, not even any claim, of having to do with BFL, that were basically making it impossible to find the one in ten posts that were actually about BFL.
For the abstract question ... harassing people is not okay, but there are limits to what can be done about it.
I sent you a PM, bud.
January 05, 2015, 12:43:43 PM
(Xian01 tells me that this thread was created because of messages I removed in a thread about BFL)
I don't know and don't care about "dox". I removed a ton of posts that have absolutely nothing, not even any claim, of having to do with BFL, that were basically making it impossible to find the one in ten posts that were actually about BFL.
For the abstract question ... harassing people is not okay, but there are limits to what can be done about it.
I don't know and don't care about "dox". I removed a ton of posts that have absolutely nothing, not even any claim, of having to do with BFL, that were basically making it impossible to find the one in ten posts that were actually about BFL.
For the abstract question ... harassing people is not okay, but there are limits to what can be done about it.
January 05, 2015, 12:43:11 PM
Furthermore, try posting Theymos' dox and see what happens.
I'm pretty sure we all know who Theymos is, its been mentioned many, many times. January 05, 2015, 12:42:18 PM
Furthermore, try posting Theymos' dox and see what happens.
I'm pretty sure we all know who Theymos is, its been mentioned many, many times.
January 05, 2015, 12:33:30 PM
Why is it that when a lawyer gets doxed and complains in a Butterfly Labs thread, all the offending posts identifying him are deleted, and bans are threatened, but when Butterfly Labs management doxes it's customers for complaining about their poor business practices, that information is allowed to stay up indefinitely.
When scammers are doxed, that information is allowed to stay.
Furthermore, try posting Theymos' dox and see what happens.
Why the hypocrisy and double standards ?
Either doxing everyone is OK, or doxing nobody is OK.
Where is the consistency ?
When scammers are doxed, that information is allowed to stay.
Furthermore, try posting Theymos' dox and see what happens.
Why the hypocrisy and double standards ?
Either doxing everyone is OK, or doxing nobody is OK.
Where is the consistency ?
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