He’s not mentally ill, he’s just looking for any excuse why Fury totally humiliated him in tge ring. He thought he was the man, undefeated, invincible champ. I don’t expect a different outcome in the third fight. He’ll never have to work again though, his family is sorted financially for life.
Topic: Deontay Wilder: He makes another WILD conspiracy theory about his loss to Fury (Read 1010 times)
July 16, 2021, 03:03:56 PM
As far as money is concerned both Fury and Wilder are already set for life but they will be happy to get many millions more by having a unification fight. I agree that Fury will win the fight, it is just a matter of getting in the ring and dismantling Wilder again.
July 16, 2021, 12:54:49 PM
He’s not mentally ill, he’s just looking for any excuse why Fury totally humiliated him in tge ring. He thought he was the man, undefeated, invincible champ. I don’t expect a different outcome in the third fight. He’ll never have to work again though, his family is sorted financially for life.
July 16, 2021, 10:56:56 AM
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Both neither he would win or lose, he would really make out some comments or those conspiracies and reasoning on why he lost on that rematch and why he won on the current match.
I never gave Deontay Wilder a chance to win the fight and he will not learn his mistakes and now the fight is pushed back due to the Corona infection by Tyson Fury i only want to see him fight if he is completely healthy from the after effects of the infection and one thing is certain Wilder will come out with stories if he losses again but if he wins we will see another fight.Both neither he would win or lose, he would really make out some comments or those conspiracies and reasoning on why he lost on that rematch and why he won on the current match.
July 16, 2021, 08:54:17 AM
This thread deserved a bump because the trilogy seems to be going ahead with a rescheduled fight taking place on 9th October 2021 after the drama surrounding Fury testing positive with COVID-19.
If Wilder gets beaten again will he cite more unfounded reasons and conspiracies for his defeat? If Wilder wins will he cite those previous allegations as evidence he was cheated in the re-match? He is doing well to stay mostly silent this time in promotions and he has not given in to the taunts by Fury but I think we will hear more wild conspiracy theories from Wilder after the fight whether he wins or loses.
Thing here is that is Fury would really be doing the opposite in case he would lost up to Wilder this time? If Wilder lose then the public would just simply ignore on what are the possible
words that would come out into his mouth.I wont be surprised if there would be some possible delays again before October schedule for some another possible reason.
July 16, 2021, 08:28:56 AM
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The trilogy has been set for 9th October 2021
at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas
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The report is on SKY SPORTS
The trilogy has been set for 9th October 2021
at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas
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The report is on SKY SPORTS
This thread deserved a bump because the trilogy seems to be going ahead with a rescheduled fight taking place on 9th October 2021 after the drama surrounding Fury testing positive with COVID-19.
If Wilder gets beaten again will he cite more unfounded reasons and conspiracies for his defeat? If Wilder wins will he cite those previous allegations as evidence he was cheated in the re-match? He is doing well to stay mostly silent this time in promotions and he has not given in to the taunts by Fury but I think we will hear more wild conspiracy theories from Wilder after the fight whether he wins or loses.
April 02, 2021, 06:06:20 PM
Fury definitely has nothing to prove that is for sure but if the Fury-Joshua fight deal collapses then he will need to get in the ring with a box-office star and Fury-Wilder is going to bring in more income than say Whyte, Ruiz, Parker and others.
that 3rd fight?
If the Fury-Joshua two fight deal does not go ahead because they could not first find and then second agree to a venue then what are the chances Wilder get another chance at Fury?
What are the chances the trilogy could go ahead?
I dont see any chance for that trilogy to happen specially that Wilder is showing off some mental stress that we have seen lately.Do you think that Fury's team do need to prove out something and agrees on having What are the chances the trilogy could go ahead?
that 3rd fight?
April 02, 2021, 05:46:05 PM
If the Fury-Joshua two fight deal does not go ahead because they could not first find and then second agree to a venue then what are the chances Wilder get another chance at Fury?
What are the chances the trilogy could go ahead?
I dont see any chance for that trilogy to happen specially that Wilder is showing off some mental stress that we have seen lately.Do you think that Fury's team do need to prove out something and agrees on having What are the chances the trilogy could go ahead?
that 3rd fight?
Bob Arum and Eddie Hearn have both said that Wilder's mediation over his rematch clause will be for financial compensation, not to force a third fight with Fury.
https://www.dazn.com/en-PH/news/boxing/there-will-be-no-trilogy-fight-between-tyson-fury-and-deontay-wilder-say-promoters/6ey65r3xq6wx1ff9fbrrz9ish
April 02, 2021, 05:33:56 PM
If the Fury-Joshua two fight deal does not go ahead because they could not first find and then second agree to a venue then what are the chances Wilder get another chance at Fury?
What are the chances the trilogy could go ahead?
What are the chances the trilogy could go ahead?
March 12, 2021, 12:26:55 AM
Wilder showed a lot of respect to Fury after the first fight but that changed after the re-match.
In all honesty I never encountered anybody that thought the fight should have been a draw because Fury won that fight, maybe that was the reason Wilder was so generous with his words towards Fury because a re-match was in the contract.
It would be easy to say Wilder should be humble, I think he should but I also do not know his state of mind. It seems clear he needs help and needs to stay away from the boxing ring therefore it might not be possible right now to mentally well enough to know the difference between being humble and seeking attention by making allegations that are hard to believe.
Fair point, however I think the main question is who has the influence over Wilder to tell him that he needs help? He is not even listening to his former trainer and Wilder believes he had something to do with his defeat by colluding with the opposite camp, Wilder does not seem to understand that by throwing the towel not only his trainers protected his career, they protected his life and the quality of life he will have after he retires and instead of appreciate this fact he thinks ill of them.In all honesty I never encountered anybody that thought the fight should have been a draw because Fury won that fight, maybe that was the reason Wilder was so generous with his words towards Fury because a re-match was in the contract.
It would be easy to say Wilder should be humble, I think he should but I also do not know his state of mind. It seems clear he needs help and needs to stay away from the boxing ring therefore it might not be possible right now to mentally well enough to know the difference between being humble and seeking attention by making allegations that are hard to believe.
In this case it should be his direct family, if we have a big problem like this, it's only our family that we can count unto. Wilder is facing a serious problem, he wouldn't say these malicious words if he is in in the right mind, so he should be check and he should submit to make it work.
March 12, 2021, 12:17:42 AM
Wilder showed a lot of respect to Fury after the first fight but that changed after the re-match.
In all honesty I never encountered anybody that thought the fight should have been a draw because Fury won that fight, maybe that was the reason Wilder was so generous with his words towards Fury because a re-match was in the contract.
It would be easy to say Wilder should be humble, I think he should but I also do not know his state of mind. It seems clear he needs help and needs to stay away from the boxing ring therefore it might not be possible right now to mentally well enough to know the difference between being humble and seeking attention by making allegations that are hard to believe.
Fair point, however I think the main question is who has the influence over Wilder to tell him that he needs help? He is not even listening to his former trainer and Wilder believes he had something to do with his defeat by colluding with the opposite camp, Wilder does not seem to understand that by throwing the towel not only his trainers protected his career, they protected his life and the quality of life he will have after he retires and instead of appreciate this fact he thinks ill of them. In all honesty I never encountered anybody that thought the fight should have been a draw because Fury won that fight, maybe that was the reason Wilder was so generous with his words towards Fury because a re-match was in the contract.
It would be easy to say Wilder should be humble, I think he should but I also do not know his state of mind. It seems clear he needs help and needs to stay away from the boxing ring therefore it might not be possible right now to mentally well enough to know the difference between being humble and seeking attention by making allegations that are hard to believe.
March 11, 2021, 05:33:30 PM
I'm not surprised at all that many members voted that he needs medical attention, I voted too, and he really needs a medical attention, I think he is suffering from anxiety symptoms and this is really risky for his comeback back I read that he will go against Andy Ruiz, and Andy Ruiz is also very raring to comeback again, Ruiz is no patsy and might jeopardize his comeback.
If that rumor is true then it's a good start for Wilder to revive his career, and hopefully he will stop talking. Ruiz vs Wilder, that would be an easy fight for Wilder for sure as Ruiz doesn't have the boxing skills of Fury and he could be a great target of Wilder with his one punch KO. Hopefully he will be given a chance, whoever he will face as long as he can give a good fight.
However, on the other side, if Wilder will loss, then it could be the end of his career as another accusation may come out.
March 11, 2021, 01:53:36 PM
We are up to 18 votes now: 16-2 seems clear enough that Wilder is in need of help from mental health professionals
March 11, 2021, 08:57:48 AM
I'm not surprised at all that many members voted that he needs medical attention, I voted too, and he really needs a medical attention, I think he is suffering from anxiety symptoms and this is really risky for his comeback back I read that he will go against Andy Ruiz, and Andy Ruiz is also very raring to comeback again, Ruiz is no patsy and might jeopardize his comeback.
March 11, 2021, 06:59:20 AM
I voted, it's 17 now. And just like what the majority think, I have the same in mind so it's all against Wilder and we can tell that people are not happy with his trying to blame strategy. If he can be a man, he needs to accept the defeat or accept if he has a mental problem now, get cured and back in the ring ASAP.
March 11, 2021, 06:42:56 AM
Still just 16 votes in the poll. With the number of people posting here and the thread views it deserves more votes...
Yeah of course, or maybe you can just put a 3rd option, which is "no comment".
Anyway, Wilder vs Fury Trilogy seems dead and not happening anymore, and though Wilder trying to get some attention here, it would not benefit him.
March 11, 2021, 04:19:23 AM
Still just 16 votes in the poll. With the number of people posting here and the thread views it deserves more votes...
March 11, 2021, 12:46:45 AM
Can we not call the remark as one of those "spur of the moment" thing? It appears he was frustrated at the bombs his former coach dropped on him. Who wouldn't be furious when someone whom he trained under for so long says "Your career is over"? I don't think he's that mentally unwell. Perhaps emotionally unstable when he said that.
You have to understand where his former is coming from. Wilder dismissed Breland because he thinks he is colluding with the camp of Tyson Fury. I mean of all people close to Wilder, why would he accused his trainer, who have been with him since the beginning? Throwing the towel and then saying that he has spike his water? close of saying that he wanted Wilder to lose against Fury. That is absurd.So his trainer spoke about him, saying things that "your career is over", maybe he was really that close to Wilder that he knows him personally and emotionally. And we all see that Wilder can't take that lose and blame everyone.
March 10, 2021, 10:09:05 AM
Point taken but I do not see Wilder being a sore loser who is creating mischief for the sake of it. He really seems mentally unwell because there is not other real explanation for the comments he is making and the absurd accusations.
If he really wants another fight with Fury he must get his mental health back then have some warm up fights before he can challenge Fury.
If he really wants another fight with Fury he must get his mental health back then have some warm up fights before he can challenge Fury.
Can we not call the remark as one of those "spur of the moment" thing? It appears he was frustrated at the bombs his former coach dropped on him. Who wouldn't be furious when someone whom he trained under for so long says "Your career is over"? I don't think he's that mentally unwell. Perhaps emotionally unstable when he said that.
March 09, 2021, 09:31:20 AM
Can we not call the remark as one of those "spur of the moment" thing? It appears he was frustrated at the bombs his former coach dropped on him. Who wouldn't be furious when someone whom he trained under for so long says "Your career is over"? I don't think he's that mentally unwell. Perhaps emotionally unstable when he said that.
March 09, 2021, 08:17:57 AM
Wilder showed a lot of respect to Fury after the first fight but that changed after the re-match.
In all honesty I never encountered anybody that thought the fight should have been a draw because Fury won that fight, maybe that was the reason Wilder was so generous with his words towards Fury because a re-match was in the contract.
It would be easy to say Wilder should be humble, I think he should but I also do not know his state of mind. It seems clear he needs help and needs to stay away from the boxing ring therefore it might not be possible right now to mentally well enough to know the difference between being humble and seeking attention by making allegations that are hard to believe.
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In all honesty I never encountered anybody that thought the fight should have been a draw because Fury won that fight, maybe that was the reason Wilder was so generous with his words towards Fury because a re-match was in the contract.
It would be easy to say Wilder should be humble, I think he should but I also do not know his state of mind. It seems clear he needs help and needs to stay away from the boxing ring therefore it might not be possible right now to mentally well enough to know the difference between being humble and seeking attention by making allegations that are hard to believe.
That's why being humble every time helps a lot to regain their sense because if those boxers who don't lose once before they get their first loss have been in high esteem every time they step in the ring. Just like what happen to Broner when he fought Maidana. Know that when you are strong there is always someone out there stronger than you and can defeat you at any moment that's why acceptance should be a must in this kind of scenario. I really hope to see him fight with Fury again but in this kind of situation that wouldn't be any good for him. He needs to find himself again and find his real reason why he wants to be the best of all fighters.
Being and remaining humble is probably not one of the characteristics that most people will choose to have in a world champion but it is absolutely necessary, even the champions that you see talking a lot and being kind of haughty still need to remain humble when they lose or otherwise they will never recover from it, this is what it is happening to Wilder, he needs to recompose himself and accept the defeat and train himself as he if was just starting his career as a boxer or he will never recover from this.[/quote]
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