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Topic: Deontay Wilder: He makes another WILD conspiracy theory about his loss to Fury - page 3. (Read 1010 times)

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I have not heard of this. A very funny situation.
I cannot judge Deontays' mental health, and I think the survey is too unfair. It may be absurd, but sometimes even the stupidest conspiracy theories turn out to be true. Theoretically, this could happen, and why not happen when millions and tens of millions of dollars are at stake?
Accordingly, I would add a third point to the vote, that he may be right.
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Chose up on the poll.

He is mentally unwell and is need of professional help

He need this one because it is quite obvious that he's suffering with some mental issues which do really need some professional help
but of course, he should really be the ones to fight off that problem and no other than that.

He needs to stop boxing if he will act this weird everytime he lose, just imagine, he just lose once and he is acting like it's the end of the world for him.  I'm sure if he behave professionally after his loss, he might get a trilogy and regardless of the result there's still fights that is lining up for him.

Fury now is the champion, his statements is disrespectful to the champion who proved to be a better fighter than him twice, the first one was a draw but people know who really won the fight.
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According to the poll result, a lot of people believe Wilder is mentally unwell and is in need of professional help which quite the opposite if you guys took your time to watch again the video of the fight. Wilder actually wants to the fight to continue before his trainer threw the towel which is what I believe actual cause the reason why he fired him but the spiked water is just a silly excuse.
Having said that, Wilder is just looking for a trilogy fight but he's doing it in the wrong way.
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Chose up on the poll.

He is mentally unwell and is need of professional help

He need this one because it is quite obvious that he's suffering with some mental issues which do really need some professional help
but of course, he should really be the ones to fight off that problem and no other than that.
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Maybe I should have added a poll asking if members here thought Wilder was simply seeking attention to shore up his efforts to get a fight with Fury or whether he is suffering from some sort of mental issues.

It's hard for us to speculate. If he keeps looking for scapegoats after every defeat it's going to become more obvious but for now it could be his frustration coming out. People love humble fighters who can take a defeat and learn from it. If you aren't like that just keep your mouth shut in public and have all arguments behind closed doors. What Wilder is doing is the shortest way to being booed at his next fight, or even not getting the next fight at all because nobody is going to want to work with him.
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A poll has been added now. I am looking forward to how the voting plays out.

Nice, I voted for:

He is mentally unwell and is need of professional help

I think it's pretty obvious that Wilder may have been psychologically affected by his lost to Fury because of his claims and excuses and blames everyone and everything, including his heavy ring walk custome, his former coach Breland, who he said spike his water and is working on the side of Fury.

3-0 so far, all in favor of him being mentally unstable. lol. I voted as well.

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The only reason why he loss is that Fury is the better man and he can't accept that.
Also, we saw in the first fight, Fury can take Wilder's punches and that made Fury a better fighter than him because he moves well and he is more stronger than Wilder. The 2nd fight was really a devastating loss of Wilder, trilogy is not necessary anymore but I still like to watch it if it's possible.
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A poll has been added now. I am looking forward to how the voting plays out.

Nice, I voted for:

He is mentally unwell and is need of professional help

I think it's pretty obvious that Wilder may have been psychologically affected by his lost to Fury because of his claims and excuses and blames everyone and everything, including his heavy ring walk custome, his former coach Breland, who he said spike his water and is working on the side of Fury. The only reason why he loss is that Fury is the better man and he can't accept that.

Like what I have mentioned before, there are some fighters that claim that their defeat was due to an external cause (i.e. the other fighter was cheating, the scorecards were bias, etc.) but in fact, the problem is internal.

In Wilder's case, I think he is on the latter reason on why he lost this fight. Instead of focusing on the next fight, I think he is spending more time on blaming these external causes instead of just improving. I mean, it is relatively difficult to say especially that I am not on his shoes but he needs to be man and accept defeat in order to move on.
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A poll has been added now. I am looking forward to how the voting plays out.

Nice, I voted for:

He is mentally unwell and is need of professional help

I think it's pretty obvious that Wilder may have been psychologically affected by his lost to Fury because of his claims and excuses and blames everyone and everything, including his heavy ring walk custome, his former coach Breland, who he said spike his water and is working on the side of Fury. The only reason why he loss is that Fury is the better man and he can't accept that.
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A poll has been added now. I am looking forward to how the voting plays out.
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This is unfortunately what ends up killing the drive of many fighters, the media hypes them and then they think they are in fact as big as the hype only to find out later they were not, it was obvious Fury was the best out of the two when it came to technique and pure boxing ability, he is taller, heavier, has a longer reach and a long list of qualities that he had above Wilder, the only thing that Wilder had over him was his incredible punching power, but Fury very rapidly figured out that Wilder needs a lot of space to generate that power so he was over him all the fight, tired him out and then destroyed him.
It is not just the media that is hyping up the fighters, the fans of those fighters that are borderline psychotic are some of the reasons that the fighter might get some delusions of grandeur to the point that he/she thinks that he/she can defeat anyone. Rabid fanbase is the worst thing a celebrity can have because it indirectly affects you psychologically. I think that Wilder can still do some good fights but if he thinks that this fight with Fury is a career ending then it will probably come true.
As we know social media has the tendency to become an echo chamber were people only hear what they want to hear, Wilder without a doubt is good but he got where he was mostly thanks to his punching power and not to his boxing ability and once he faced someone like Fury that despite his size can move really well and has very good technique then he had no chance, I just hope that Wilder is training and trying to improve his technique instead of just complaining because if they fight again and he does not change we will see the same result.
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Maybe I should have added a poll asking if members here thought Wilder was simply seeking attention to shore up his efforts to get a fight with Fury or whether he is suffering from some sort of mental issues.
Agree with this.

Seek for attention? possibly but most likely this is on the side of mental issue  rather,basing on behavior it do shows that he cant just accept his defeat and cant move forward or able to move on.He's the only one that could fight into this kind of problem.
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Maybe I should have added a poll asking if members here thought Wilder was simply seeking attention to shore up his efforts to get a fight with Fury or whether he is suffering from some sort of mental issues.
I guess that would be a great idea, and I think most of us would agree with that poll.
The fact that the right did not happen, fans are very much disappointed but good thing that the Joshua vs Fury was already announce and that's enough to shadowed our disappointment.. but go ahead with the poll, it would be interesting to know if what I thought is right. lol.
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Maybe I should have added a poll asking if members here thought Wilder was simply seeking attention to shore up his efforts to get a fight with Fury or whether he is suffering from some sort of mental issues.
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I doubt that he had been told by the team itself when it comes on moving on since from the start on moving on forward specially now that they do able to see that he had really been affected much because of that lose.
Deontay Wilder does not look like a person who listen to his coaching staff, even if anyone wants to help him genuinely he will shut them out.


This issue has only came out when he lose against Fury, the problem is so deep and I think the only problem is Wilder. I don't know how long his coach has been working with him but he was one of the reason of his success, and I don't think disrespecting anyone on his corner would do good for his future.
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Every individual that watch the fight knew Wilder trainer throw the towel as at the when expected time cause he's not fit to continue with the fight which he also said he's feeling dizzy due to the blood he lost through his ear cut.
I once somehow believe his first excuse about Fury having something in his gloves but now I know Wilder just can't get over the fight
It is not even about throwing the towel at the right time or wrong time, let's say he did it way too early, let's say he did it on the first second of the fight before anyone even had a punch in, as soon as the bell was ringed he just chucked the towel in, that still does 0% with the spiked water comment. I mean the idea here is that his trainer was so bad and was working with the other team that he spiked his water SO he must have thrown the towel too early as well?

I do not see a connection there, if dude spiked his water he could have just spiked even more and made him lose on the very first round as well, there is no possibility of something like that would have a connection with something else. Dude is just a bad bad loser that ended up having a great career, amazing end record for a career, and that's it, he is going to be someone we forget in a few years time.
You are absolutely correct, if the water was indeed spiked the fight between Wilder and Fury shouldn't have reach seventh-round before it reacts on his (Wilder) body. Besides, the reaction should also be reflected in his eyes and legs when he spar.



I once somehow believe his first excuse about Fury having something in his gloves but now I know Wilder just can't get over the fight
Gloves, in ring entrance clothes, spiking his drinks. He has many excuses.
That excuses is merely his fault on his corner's fault, there's nothing to blame or he will just blame himself.
All of that can be corrected in the 3rd fight if he made it easy to happen, he can even wear nothing to solve the clothes problem and will hire a new trainer.
Unfortunately, he didn't do that, his excuses made him look like a real loser, from being a superstar, he has now become a clown in boxing.

But boxers with a lot of ego, like Wilder here, can't accept the blame here, that's why he goes on to look for someone to point at, and now it is his trainer, which he said spike his water or something.

I don't think there will be a 3rd fight now, Fury says no already. Maybe we can see Joshua vs Wilder next. And as far as Wilder now, we don't know who is beside him and whispering to his ears to go to the media and make this claims again.

Fury does not like it anymore and I don't think a promoter would still love to promote Wilder with that kind of attitude he showed, he has to be professional and will not easily throw words online without any solid basis, he is just looking for an attention but unfortunately in a wrong approach.
Shelly Finkel will gladly promote the fight if it going to take place because he stands by Wilder and also makes a statement about Fury not keeping words before he later read the content of the contract signed by Wilder and Fury before the second fight but Fury doesn't want to give Wilder the third fight cause he's more after the undisputed champion fight that's why he begs Joshua to his last fight so they could meet.
I read the undisputed (Joshua vs Fury)fight contract is signed but it yet to be announce.
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I doubt that he had been told by the team itself when it comes on moving on since from the start on moving on forward specially now that they do able to see that he had really been affected much because of that lose.
Deontay Wilder does not look like a person who listen to his coaching staff, even if anyone wants to help him genuinely he will shut them out.

He is capable off and theres no doubt with that and its just there are really just much better boxer who had able to beat you up.Well, thats how sports do works  on where neither you win or lose.
With all the blames Deontay Wilder proved that he is not able to make a successful return. His approach to boxing was the intimidating factor and his big punches and once a fighter looses that then other fighters will see that weakness and exploit that and it is not going to be easy for Wilder to overcome those mental obstacles.
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Wilder should be advised and somebody in his corner should teach him to move forward let go of those fights that keep haunting him and just get back into the ring, he is capable of winning and knocking anybody out, that pick a good boxer to fight, and when he wins it he will forget his loss and can concentrate on winning his title back.
I doubt that he had been told by the team itself when it comes on moving on since from the start on moving on forward specially now that they do able to see that he had really been affected much because of that lose.

He is capable off and theres no doubt with that and its just there are really just much better boxer who had able to beat you up.Well, thats how sports do works  on where neither you win or lose.

If he wont really moved on then it would really be hard for him to fight back in his well-conditioned body and mind.
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You’d think there would be some shred of truth to his claims, but that seems a little far fetched. I saw the fight and it didn’t look like he was drugged or anything, it just looked like he wasn’t the better fighter. Maybe his camp was having some issues but at the end of the day I think they all wanted a victory. If not, he needs to get himself a new staff.

I think he already did get a few new people around him after he lost and that's why he dump his trainer Mark Breland. It's a case of he said, she said here, but like the majority of us who watch the fight many times, Fury is the better man that night and Wilder was really hurt, no plan B and so Fury knock him down and won the fight.

Wilder should move on and chase a fight not name Fury and bring back his confidence again with his new staff around.
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You’d think there would be some shred of truth to his claims, but that seems a little far fetched. I saw the fight and it didn’t look like he was drugged or anything, it just looked like he wasn’t the better fighter. Maybe his camp was having some issues but at the end of the day I think they all wanted a victory. If not, he needs to get himself a new staff.
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i want to see his previous conspiracy if that is funnier than this one .
his first conspuracy for their match could have been invalid and he thinks of another one just to convince the watchers that he didnt loose easily in a fair way but his second conspiracy is unbelivable because its his trainer and trainers are doing thier best to condition thier boxer to help them win and not to do something illegal that could make them loose .
what a crazy guy he is
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