Deontay Wilder: He makes another WILD conspiracy theory about his loss to Fury - page 5.

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Quote from: JollyGood on February 21, 2021, 04:56:44 AM

Wilder is suffering from depression I will go along with that but I think he wants to face Fury in the ring again because he genuinely believes he can beat him and he genuinely believes he should not have lost.

I hope friends and family of Wilder will fore him sort out his mental issues before he considers getting back in the ring.

Maybe he needs to solve his depression first before he decides to face Fury because if he still wants to do that, I am afraid that his depression will affect his performance. He really needs to seek help to solve the mental issues, but it is hard to suggest he do that thing without awareness from him. We hope that his friends and family can tell him before he ruins himself in the ring or his real life.

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Wilder would have to check his mental health. As much important and powerful his physicality is, he also has to take into account that his mental health is important, and with a sport like that, fhat not only takes toll off of your body but your mind, you're going to need a very tough mindset or at least a backup failsafe plan should you go downhill.

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Next time he would say that he urgently needed to go to WC, so not to get embarrased in front of the crowd, he decided to lose that fight. Or that he had forgotten to turn off the iron at home.

But seriously, if he makes excuses like that, he should not think about a rematch, but must fix his head before.

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Quote from: Cling18 on February 21, 2021, 10:29:20 AM

Quote from: dothebeats on February 18, 2021, 11:19:00 AM

That's kinda rough on him completely losing his mind. Maybe it's not the physical trauma that gave him that, but also the stress and anxiety that was put onto him just before the bout. Wilder needs to get psychologically screened and tested, else this might develop into more bizarre claims and uncontrollable 'bouts' in the future. It must have been hard for him to accept defeat, hence the delusion that every one is against him.

Wilder couldn't accept his defeat which made him release negative statements against his trainer. I guess he really needs to seek professional help because his previous fights might affect his mental condition which isn't healthy for him for this kind of sport. He should see for a psychological help before he enter the ring again. Being physically fit isn't enough to be qualified as a professional player but it also includes good mental condition.

He won't win against Fury if he will not accept this defeat.

Why? because he won't see what he needs to improve, he things he is good enough, he only lose because he was cheated.
I can't remember anymore how many times he made and excuses in different reasons, this guy just can't move on, he he was stuck in his own imagination.

Fury vs Wilder 3 will not happen because of Wilder, there's no one to be blame.

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Quote from: dothebeats on February 18, 2021, 11:19:00 AM

That's kinda rough on him completely losing his mind. Maybe it's not the physical trauma that gave him that, but also the stress and anxiety that was put onto him just before the bout. Wilder needs to get psychologically screened and tested, else this might develop into more bizarre claims and uncontrollable 'bouts' in the future. It must have been hard for him to accept defeat, hence the delusion that every one is against him.

Wilder couldn't accept his defeat which made him release negative statements against his trainer. I guess he really needs to seek professional help because his previous fights might affect his mental condition which isn't healthy for him for this kind of sport. He should see for a psychological help before he enter the ring again. Being physically fit isn't enough to be qualified as a professional player but it also includes good mental condition.

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We cannot be 100% sure if the water that Mark Breland gave to his trainee Deontay Wilder contained any substances that could influence the distortion of the boxer's reality perception, but we know that Mark Breland's reputation is perfect and this whole story is similar to Deontay Wilder's attempts to justify his defeat at the expense of his trainer.

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I am disappointed Wilder can make these ridiculous statements just to tarnish the reputation of the trainer that trained him to be among the best boxers just because of a single fight lost and I wonder what he would have done if he's was a fighter like Luiz Ortiz that he was beaten twice.
He's going to lose alot of fans with his immature habit.

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Wilder is suffering from depression I will go along with that but I think he wants to face Fury in the ring again because he genuinely believes he can beat him and he genuinely believes he should not have lost.

I hope friends and family of Wilder will fore him sort out his mental issues before he considers getting back in the ring.

Quote from: plr on February 20, 2021, 10:59:21 AM

The guy is in depression he is afraid to face Tyson for fear that he will get beaten again so he is playing this kind of game, the fact that he fired his former trainer who is his long time trainer we can easily conclude that he is out of control and he cannot get over and move forward with that loss.

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Quote from: ene1980 on February 20, 2021, 03:31:12 PM

Quote from: plr on February 20, 2021, 10:59:21 AM

The guy is in depression he is afraid to face Tyson for fear that he will get beaten again so he is playing this kind of game, the fact that he fired his former trainer who is his long time trainer we can easily conclude that he is out of control and he cannot get over and move forward with that loss.

Deontay Wilder is exposing his weakness as he cannot accept defeat and Mark Breland who threw in the towel to save Wilder is a former professional boxer and he knows very well about the consequences for taking punches but he fired him and then coming up with excuses and it is not because he is afraid to fight for the trilogy but he wants to convince himself that he lost because of outsider interference and that will not help him in improving.

He should realized on whats better, risking out his entire boxing career or accepting just 1 lost in a fight? Trainor/Coach does know on when to throw the towel
and when its not and he's just minding off his boxer which is a good thing to be done when you get beat up since we know the risk on being hit consecutively.
Its just a right decision to make and he's just making it as a reason.

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Quote from: plr on February 20, 2021, 10:59:21 AM

The guy is in depression he is afraid to face Tyson for fear that he will get beaten again so he is playing this kind of game, the fact that he fired his former trainer who is his long time trainer we can easily conclude that he is out of control and he cannot get over and move forward with that loss.

Deontay Wilder is exposing his weakness as he cannot accept defeat and Mark Breland who threw in the towel to save Wilder is a former professional boxer and he knows very well about the consequences for taking punches but he fired him and then coming up with excuses and it is not because he is afraid to fight for the trilogy but he wants to convince himself that he lost because of outsider interference and that will not help him in improving.

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Before he was beaten by Fury I never liked Wilder because of what I saw as arrogance. In the days after the fight I sort of had a little respect for him because he was clearly concussed very early on but managed to get through a lot of rounds before the referee stopped it after his team threw in the towel. If they did not do that Fury would have floored him again and he would have been out for the 10 count anyway.

Now I have very little respect for Wilder because what Fury did by promising not to fight because of mental issues Wilder is facing was a genuine action. After a deal could not be made Fury ensured he never fought Wilder again because he would probably cause him irreversible damage.

Wilder blamed it on the costume, then blamed it on Fury allegedly having objects in his gloves then he blame it on Fury slapping him instead of punching him then he blamed it on his team for throwing the towel in then he blamed it on his trainer spiking his water... it is not funny anymore because Wilder needs to be taken to professionals that are trained to help people that suffer from mental issues.

Quote from: Jackl87 on February 19, 2021, 04:27:13 AM

I have never been the biggest fan of wilder with his extremely cocky bronze bomber attitude where he said he still wants to kill someone in the ring.
On the other hand i always respected him that he never doged a fight versus dangerous opponents like anthony joshua did a few times.

His claim that he lost because his costume was entrance costume was too heavy was already wild but this theory now is even Wilder. Pun intended Wink

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on February 20, 2021, 08:08:41 AM

What probably was the reason why he is acting weird after he lose the fight?

I don't understand him, his career is not over yet, he is given a chance for a Trilogy fight and he wasted that opportunity.
So now he will just continue fighting in social media while he slowly loses his career as a boxer.

So sad but it looks like we will not hear from him soon.

The guy is in depression he is afraid to face Tyson for fear that he will get beaten again so he is playing this kind of game, the fact that he fired his former trainer who is his long time trainer we can easily conclude that he is out of control and he cannot get over and move forward with that loss.

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What probably was the reason why he is acting weird after he lose the fight?

I don't understand him, his career is not over yet, he is given a chance for a Trilogy fight and he wasted that opportunity.
So now he will just continue fighting in social media while he slowly loses his career as a boxer.

So sad but it looks like we will not hear from him soon.

Quote from: JollyGood on February 20, 2021, 04:34:56 AM

Sadly we all know Wilder needs rehabilitation but it is his family and friends that should push him towards seeking help. He needs to stay away from boxing until he gets his focus back and is mentally well again.

Quote from: swogerino on February 19, 2021, 03:51:11 AM

I always tend to doubt people who claim conspiracy is done against them.When I first read about spiked water immediately I started laughing and not believe this conspiracy.If it were true that conspiracy was made against him there are hundred of easier and not easily detectable methods to achieve this goal.This guy definitely needs psychological rehab.

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Quote from: JollyGood on February 20, 2021, 04:34:56 AM

Sadly we all know Wilder needs rehabilitation but it is his family and friends that should push him towards seeking help. He needs to stay away from boxing until he gets his focus back and is mentally well again.

Quote from: swogerino on February 19, 2021, 03:51:11 AM

I always tend to doubt people who claim conspiracy is done against them.When I first read about spiked water immediately I started laughing and not believe this conspiracy.If it were true that conspiracy was made against him there are hundred of easier and not easily detectable methods to achieve this goal.This guy definitely needs psychological rehab.

Thats what he need for now because everybody do already notice that condition on where his mentality gets really affected with that past fight and just like what most people saying that he do wants to be undefeated
and he wanted to be perfect and to be the best among the rest and on the day that he lost then he cant really just accept it and when you are type of person who are really too emotional then handling out
these kind of situation is really a challenge.

No one can help you out but only yourself but seeking out on your loved ones help would really be beneficial.You do only make yourself look bad into the public if you do really continue to blame out
people randomly because of your loss.

He does really need some rehab if things cant be handled out well because this might really be the end of his career if mental state would really be come severe
and becomes worst and might be the reason for him to stop boxing for a while or might forever.Sounds exaggerated but its possible to happen.

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Sadly we all know Wilder needs rehabilitation but it is his family and friends that should push him towards seeking help. He needs to stay away from boxing until he gets his focus back and is mentally well again.

Quote from: swogerino on February 19, 2021, 03:51:11 AM

I always tend to doubt people who claim conspiracy is done against them.When I first read about spiked water immediately I started laughing and not believe this conspiracy.If it were true that conspiracy was made against him there are hundred of easier and not easily detectable methods to achieve this goal.This guy definitely needs psychological rehab.

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Quote from: dunfida on February 19, 2021, 05:59:24 PM

Quote from: roosbit on February 19, 2021, 05:55:44 PM

Wilder everyone was watching you got beat and was put in your place, but then again I like were you going with this... keep ranting about being king and what not you will get a fight you asking for hope you will be ready,just don't drag everyone into the mad by throwing shade at them.

Real losers are acting up this way, he might be undefeated wayback but nothing on this world would really remain on top forever.

There would be always someone who will be better than you.He cant just accept his fate and now throwing off some blames on the ones he can see on.

You cant see the sportsmanship on this way.

Yep, but what makes people think that he completely lost it is when he blame his long time trainer and said that Breland is involved and wanted to see him lost against Tyson Fury. He obviously parted ways with Breland and put the blame on him for everything that happen to himself. And now he is being exposed as a lazy boxer so we have the reasons why he lost to Fury, didn't train hard, can't be teach new tricks and so he is the real losers here with the way he acts after the fight.

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Quote from: tokeweed on February 19, 2021, 08:59:54 AM

Rofl. The guy has gone wacko. What kind of drugs is he on? He better stay away from the white power. He sounds very paranoid and in a way that makes it look like something is really up with the guy even before his loss. His loss just triggered it.

Wasn’t he getting that third fight anyway?

Still waiting for the arbitration, but Fury has move forward already and in paper, going to fight Joshua next and probably this trigger Wilder's wild conspiracy like his head training spiking his water during the fight itself. Hard to prove and I doubt that his training will do that.

He has lost so much respect from the boxing community and he really need to move forward and admit that Fury has taken his 0 and he doesn't have the chance to fight him in a trilogy resulting in a big loss in revenue for him.

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Quote from: roosbit on February 19, 2021, 05:55:44 PM

Wilder everyone was watching you got beat and was put in your place, but then again I like were you going with this... keep ranting about being king and what not you will get a fight you asking for hope you will be ready,just don't drag everyone into the mad by throwing shade at them.

Real losers are acting up this way, he might be undefeated wayback but nothing on this world would really remain on top forever.

There would be always someone who will be better than you.He cant just accept his fate and now throwing off some blames on the ones he can see on.

You cant see the sportsmanship on this way.

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Wilder everyone was watching you got beat and was put in your place, but then again I like were you going with this... keep ranting about being king and what not you will get a fight you asking for hope you will be ready,just don't drag everyone into the mad by throwing shade at them.

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Quote from: AliMan on February 19, 2021, 04:57:16 PM

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I like to be mad to him for his stupid mind but I have to understand what he is going through, maybe until now he still cannot accept his one and only loses and that he is not a champion anymore, with the way he has been doing, he only makes himself worst and expressing to the public that he can never beat Fury anymore. I pity him to be honest.

That's his agony behind the depression he went though right now, and we really can understand about that matter. But what's wrong with his was he can't managed to move on, and what he needed is to accept the fact that he lost. I also don't have a good mood on him, he is like a spoiled bratty child who've been very noise at all and speaking non sense.

Later on, he will realized that his boxing fans are slowly going away because of his attitude.
Just a matter of time before he can truly accept what had happened to that match.
Right now, maybe he needs more of understanding from people and not the bashing as he is going thru a difficult phase of his life.
It will pass and hopefully, in the future, he is more open-minded with things in life.

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