Deontay Wilder: He makes another WILD conspiracy theory about his loss to Fury - page 7.

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Quote from: JollyGood on February 18, 2021, 01:05:34 PM

Maybe Wilder really finds it difficult to accept that he was out boxed and well beaten by a better fighter on the day. Before he can start making rational comments and statements he should seek professional help, surely his family and friends can see he needs help so they should push him in that direction.

Quote from: rhomelmabini on February 18, 2021, 12:02:24 PM

Looks like the beating onto his head was that severe that it doesn't end well in his state of mind. Looks like he need an extensive rehabilitation psychologically but I doubt if he can return to the ring if that happens even if that mean as a sarcastic opinion by Fury or if it was true too.

I really think this is the right answer, I don't really think there is anything wrong with his head in a neurological level, what happens is that he is not ready to accept the fact that he lost, and not only he lost he was completely dominated by Fury in what was a complete beatdown, so he is trying to desperately find a rational explanation for what happened to justify his own incompetence, if I remember correctly at first he blamed the costume that he was wearing before the fight and now he is using this, and I can say that until the day comes in which he is able to accept that he was the main reason why he lost against Fury then he has no chance at all of winning a rematch against Fury.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on February 18, 2021, 12:02:24 PM

Looks like the beating onto his head was that severe that it doesn't end well in his state of mind. Looks like he need an extensive rehabilitation psychologically but I doubt if he can return to the ring if that happens even if that mean as a sarcastic opinion by Fury or if it was true too.

That's worst situations if he undergo extensive psychological rehabilitation mate, because it's considered as disability of a person. Head injury is dangerous, and with this kind of accident I think it's not going to be overcome, then I hope so the management would do actions in order to prevent other players to fall to this kind of disgusting situation.

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Quote from: JollyGood on February 18, 2021, 01:05:34 PM

Maybe Wilder really finds it difficult to accept that he was out boxed and well beaten by a better fighter on the day. Before he can start making rational comments and statements he should seek professional help, surely his family and friends can see he needs help so they should push him in that direction.

It will be difficult but he should move on that he can't beat that beast Fury. He really needs it and it should be an immediate concern because that will be worst if it indeed not taken care of. I doubt if a third fight will ever happen.

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This shows his overconfidence and the mind that doesn't accept losses. This is like Trump requesting for the recounting and tries to stay within the Whitehouse even after the win is confirmed. As most people mentioned, one should always have the mind of acceptance and he needs psychological medication. Maybe he could've served as king of WBC heavyweight for more than five years, for that claiming the coach as the reason for his loss shows the incompetence.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on February 18, 2021, 05:06:49 PM

Not many details of this case were made public.

Reading between the lines, it seems Max Holloway's old manager put something in his water or food which led to him having negative symptoms resembling a concussion.

I clearly remember the Max Holloway situation as he was clearly stumbling with his words during a media interview and many notified that something is wrong with his behavior as he was clearly not looking good let alone fight.

But here Wilder is making up things, he was never spiked and he had a good walk to the arena and there was nothing wrong and the exact moment he lost his balance is when he was hit in the side of the head by Fury and after that he was wobbly and it was clear he will not recover as he is not known to have great movement in the ring and Fury was putting pressure all the time and he was overwhelmed with punches.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on February 18, 2021, 05:06:49 PM

It might sound crazy or farfetched but there could also be some truth to it.

Probabilities is there but it is really hard to give out without solid evidences thats why most likely this would be ruled out. Going back about on Wilder,
that i do believe that this guy cant really able to move on with his defeat on Fury, he cant just accept which might really lead up into that mental
stress and now giving out blames to his trainer?
I thought this one is over and Wilder do already accept that and i was just surprised that we are again seeing these kind of reasoning which
we should really not be putting any attention at all. He do need to accept that or else that would really be a big problem which would really
be leading into more severe if he wont able to snap out of it.

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There are obviously problems in his life that go way beyond the boxing part. Maybe his erratic conduct is not just a reaction to him being in denial about his defeat, maybe he had other issues going in his personal life before the fight and defeat at the hands of Fury just compounded it all.

Wilder should be advised by his family and friends to stay out of the ring until he manages to get his life back on track.

Quote from: dothebeats on February 18, 2021, 12:19:00 PM

That's kinda rough on him completely losing his mind. Maybe it's not the physical trauma that gave him that, but also the stress and anxiety that was put onto him just before the bout. Wilder needs to get psychologically screened and tested, else this might develop into more bizarre claims and uncontrollable 'bouts' in the future. It must have been hard for him to accept defeat, hence the delusion that every one is against him.

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MMA fighter Max Holloway sued his ex manager for something similar.

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Max Holloway finally figured out what caused UFC 226 ‘concussion-like symptoms,’ lawsuit pending

A year after former Featherweight champion, Max Holloway, was forced to withdraw from his scheduled title defense against Brian Ortega at UFC 226 due to “concussion-like symptoms,” the ex-champ seems to have found the root of the problem.

“I could tell exactly what it was. It was something we consumed,” Holloway said. “Like right now not that much people know, I left my old management. I’m with new management now and my manager now he’s like a behavioral science guy and he’s probably watching this stream squirming the way I’m talking about it but we got stuff going on,” he added.

“I’m looking to work on with lawyers and we plan on suing somebody. There’s a bunch of stuff that I really can’t talk about. That’s why he’s squirming back there. I probably shouldn’t be talking about it too much but that’s what it is. It was something I consumed. I don’t even know if I can tell you [what it was].”

https://www.mmamania.com/2019/12/19/21030710/max-holloway-figured-out-cause-ufc-226-concussion-like-symptoms-lawsuit-pending-mma

Not many details of this case were made public.

Reading between the lines, it seems Max Holloway's old manager put something in his water or food which led to him having negative symptoms resembling a concussion.

I think this was settled out of court.

It might sound crazy or farfetched but there could also be some truth to it.

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Quote from: JollyGood on February 18, 2021, 11:51:04 AM

Wilder has added another new unbelievable conspiracy theory to the list of reasons why he claims he lost his fight against Tyson Fury. He now claims his own trainer spiked his water in order for him to get beat Shocked

It is not surprising as he is coming up with excuses the moment he lost the fight and he was talking about someone spiking his water from the beginning and and before that he was blaming his heavy clothes he was wearing during his entrance and it has become a meme and he needs some serious help as he could not accept the defeat. People can go to depression and that is sadly what i am seeing from his situation.

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Quote from: JollyGood on February 18, 2021, 11:51:04 AM

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This is also a reason why it takes a long time to be settled on whom should we bet in a single game, and this applies to all of the sports that can be gambled. We must be taking an in-depth research on what is happening on the mental health of the player or players of a team we are betting. A simple negative, boastful, and arrogant mindset is something to consider yet could give a huge change to that player's gameplay when in match.

It is sad that Wilder cannot just move on, this would affect bets on his future games as this could be his biggest flaw.

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Maybe Wilder really finds it difficult to accept that he was out boxed and well beaten by a better fighter on the day. Before he can start making rational comments and statements he should seek professional help, surely his family and friends can see he needs help so they should push him in that direction.

Quote from: rhomelmabini on February 18, 2021, 12:02:24 PM

Looks like the beating onto his head was that severe that it doesn't end well in his state of mind. Looks like he need an extensive rehabilitation psychologically but I doubt if he can return to the ring if that happens even if that mean as a sarcastic opinion by Fury or if it was true too.

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it is sad, that he blames others for his own incompetency. I feel bad for his trainer for wasting a lot of time on a fighter that doubts him when something didn't go as he liked.

Quote from: JollyGood on February 18, 2021, 11:51:04 AM

Considering the current state of mind Wilder is in, he obviously needs help and he needs to keep away from the ring and any near-future fights.

definitely needs help it is not the first time a fighter experience psychological problem after losing a fight it is just sad that he is doubting and accuse his trainer who he should have been trusting.

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That's kinda rough on him completely losing his mind. Maybe it's not the physical trauma that gave him that, but also the stress and anxiety that was put onto him just before the bout. Wilder needs to get psychologically screened and tested, else this might develop into more bizarre claims and uncontrollable 'bouts' in the future. It must have been hard for him to accept defeat, hence the delusion that every one is against him.

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Looks like the beating onto his head was that severe that it doesn't end well in his state of mind. Looks like he need an extensive rehabilitation psychologically but I doubt if he can return to the ring if that happens even if that mean as a sarcastic opinion by Fury or if it was true too.

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Wilder has added another new unbelievable conspiracy theory to the list of reasons why he claims he lost his fight against Tyson Fury. He now claims his own trainer spiked his water in order for him to get beat Shocked

"Eddie Hearn insists Deontay Wilder 'has lost his mind' after 'bizarre' public row with Mark Breland as he hits out at heavyweight for calling himself a 'king' and ruining his ex-trainer's legacy with claims that he spiked his water before Tyson Fury defeat"

Considering the current state of mind Wilder is in, he obviously needs help and he needs to keep away from the ring and any near-future fights. My take has always been that Fury should not fight Wilder again at least until he can prove is mentally well but now it looks like Fury was right all along when he said he would not fight Wilder because Wilder needed to seek help for his mental issues.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-9244555/Eddie-Hearn-insists-Deontay-Wilder-lost-mind-bizarre-public-row-Mark-Breland.html

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