Deontay Wilder: He makes another WILD conspiracy theory about his loss to Fury - page 4.

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Quote from: Oilacris on February 24, 2021, 06:55:11 PM

Once a loser you would be a loser and reasoning like this does proves out that you are even more worst than just on losing in a fight on where you cant just accept the reality.

Wilder should move on and prevent that severe mental stress because if he wont really make snap out of it then that would be a problem which might really affect

his entire boxing career which would be the worst scenario could happen. Dont blame others because it is just that there's a better boxer than him and making
some excuse make himself look even more bad or not appealing into the masses.

Wilder only lose once in his career, but it looks like he is already losing a lot of times, I'm so disappointed knowing that one lose could end one man's boxing career and that is not the fault of time or the sports itself but its his own fault, he is avoiding the opportunity to reclaim himself and instead he let himself suffer from that long depression if that's the right word to call it.

We know on how stress can badly affect someones mind which would really result into messing up everything.One lost wont really be enough
for Wilder to leave boxing literally basing off on numbers but once mental health condition is on the talks then that would be an another issue
which would might really be needing some medication which will take some time and he's indeed the only one who can cure or resolve.
If he could just realize then he should able to move on.

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Quote from: Oilacris on February 24, 2021, 06:55:11 PM

Once a loser you would be a loser and reasoning like this does proves out that you are even more worst than just on losing in a fight on where you cant just accept the reality.

Wilder should move on and prevent that severe mental stress because if he wont really make snap out of it then that would be a problem which might really affect

his entire boxing career which would be the worst scenario could happen. Dont blame others because it is just that there's a better boxer than him and making
some excuse make himself look even more bad or not appealing into the masses.

Wilder only lose once in his career, but it looks like he is already losing a lot of times, I'm so disappointed knowing that one lose could end one man's boxing career and that is not the fault of time or the sports itself but its his own fault, he is avoiding the opportunity to reclaim himself and instead he let himself suffer from that long depression if that's the right word to call it.

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Once a loser you would be a loser and reasoning like this does proves out that you are even more worst than just on losing in a fight on where you cant just accept the reality.

Wilder should move on and prevent that severe mental stress because if he wont really make snap out of it then that would be a problem which might really affect

his entire boxing career which would be the worst scenario could happen. Dont blame others because it is just that there's a better boxer than him and making
some excuse make himself look even more bad or not appealing into the masses.

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Wilder is the stereotypical bumbling idiot from Alabama. I am not surprised at all that he actually believes these things and is using it to justify his loss. His fanbase might still believe in him but to the rest of the world he looks like a buffoon. The only way he can repair his image after this devastating loss is to get back to fighting and beat some credible opponents.

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I once somehow believe his first excuse about Fury having something in his gloves but now I know Wilder just can't get over the fight

Gloves, in ring entrance clothes, spiking his drinks. He has many excuses.

That excuses is merely his fault on his corner's fault, there's nothing to blame or he will just blame himself.
All of that can be corrected in the 3rd fight if he made it easy to happen, he can even wear nothing to solve the clothes problem and will hire a new trainer.
Unfortunately, he didn't do that, his excuses made him look like a real loser, from being a superstar, he has now become a clown in boxing.

But boxers with a lot of ego, like Wilder here, can't accept the blame here, that's why he goes on to look for someone to point at, and now it is his trainer, which he said spike his water or something.

I don't think there will be a 3rd fight now, Fury says no already. Maybe we can see Joshua vs Wilder next. And as far as Wilder now, we don't know who is beside him and whispering to his ears to go to the media and make this claims again.

Fury does not like it anymore and I don't think a promoter would still love to promote Wilder with that kind of attitude he showed, he has to be professional and will not easily throw words online without any solid basis, he is just looking for an attention but unfortunately in a wrong approach.

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Fury and Klitschko had great fighting techniques in the belt and the top ten boxers in the world. Federer went to frankfurt and beat up a local boxer there, he was an underdog with the bookmakers but he was emotionally upset a lot because of the fight it affected his career the media is easily spreading bad things. Which put pressure on his brain everything will be acceptable if the new coach is properly rehabilitated.

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I once somehow believe his first excuse about Fury having something in his gloves but now I know Wilder just can't get over the fight

Gloves, in ring entrance clothes, spiking his drinks. He has many excuses.

That excuses is merely his fault on his corner's fault, there's nothing to blame or he will just blame himself.
All of that can be corrected in the 3rd fight if he made it easy to happen, he can even wear nothing to solve the clothes problem and will hire a new trainer.
Unfortunately, he didn't do that, his excuses made him look like a real loser, from being a superstar, he has now become a clown in boxing.

But boxers with a lot of ego, like Wilder here, can't accept the blame here, that's why he goes on to look for someone to point at, and now it is his trainer, which he said spike his water or something.

I don't think there will be a 3rd fight now, Fury says no already. Maybe we can see Joshua vs Wilder next. And as far as Wilder now, we don't know who is beside him and whispering to his ears to go to the media and make this claims again.

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Quote from: Kemarit on February 23, 2021, 08:20:01 PM

Wilder though is different as he has been saying or claiming things that 90% of us thinks that he has suffered brain damage from that fight with Tyson Fury. The way he acts after the fight and even up to this day is no acceptable.

I don't think it's related to brain damage and stuff, but his failed strategy to do a rematch. He lost, couldn't do a rematch, and he is frustrated. Wilder was at the top and fell down pathetically and the future is not so bright for an exposed boxer.

Lots of boxers got beaten, but they still "sellable" like Pacman, Tyson, etc., but Wilder doesn't have that kind of attractiveness.

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on February 23, 2021, 02:40:57 AM

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This is unfortunately what ends up killing the drive of many fighters, the media hypes them and then they think they are in fact as big as the hype only to find out later they were not, it was obvious Fury was the best out of the two when it came to technique and pure boxing ability, he is taller, heavier, has a longer reach and a long list of qualities that he had above Wilder, the only thing that Wilder had over him was his incredible punching power, but Fury very rapidly figured out that Wilder needs a lot of space to generate that power so he was over him all the fight, tired him out and then destroyed him.

It is not just the media that is hyping up the fighters, the fans of those fighters that are borderline psychotic are some of the reasons that the fighter might get some delusions of grandeur to the point that he/she thinks that he/she can defeat anyone. Rabid fanbase is the worst thing a celebrity can have because it indirectly affects you psychologically. I think that Wilder can still do some good fights but if he thinks that this fight with Fury is a career ending then it will probably come true.

Well we are in the social media world right now, so every fans in every sports will really affect their athletes one time or another. Floyd and Manny's fans are the most delusional fans I would say specially during the hype on their fight.

Wilder though is different as he has been saying or claiming things that 90% of us thinks that he has suffered brain damage from that fight with Tyson Fury. The way he acts after the fight and even up to this day is no acceptable.

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on February 23, 2021, 02:40:57 AM

Quote from: Silberman on February 23, 2021, 01:25:41 AM

This is unfortunately what ends up killing the drive of many fighters, the media hypes them and then they think they are in fact as big as the hype only to find out later they were not, it was obvious Fury was the best out of the two when it came to technique and pure boxing ability, he is taller, heavier, has a longer reach and a long list of qualities that he had above Wilder, the only thing that Wilder had over him was his incredible punching power, but Fury very rapidly figured out that Wilder needs a lot of space to generate that power so he was over him all the fight, tired him out and then destroyed him.

It is not just the media that is hyping up the fighters, the fans of those fighters that are borderline psychotic are some of the reasons that the fighter might get some delusions of grandeur to the point that he/she thinks that he/she can defeat anyone. Rabid fanbase is the worst thing a celebrity can have because it indirectly affects you psychologically. I think that Wilder can still do some good fights but if he thinks that this fight with Fury is a career ending then it will probably come true.

I believe on this, he should not stop fighting because he only loss once and he is still popular in heavyweight division. The best upcoming fight is the battle between champs which is Fury vs Joshua, but in case Joshua will win, he might be given a chance to fight Joshua and I think he has a chance to beat Joshua and their they are in equal standing as one boxer beats the other.

I like to see that scenario to happen, but it seems it's unlikely to happen due to Wilder's behavior.

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Quote from: Silberman on February 23, 2021, 01:25:41 AM

This is unfortunately what ends up killing the drive of many fighters, the media hypes them and then they think they are in fact as big as the hype only to find out later they were not, it was obvious Fury was the best out of the two when it came to technique and pure boxing ability, he is taller, heavier, has a longer reach and a long list of qualities that he had above Wilder, the only thing that Wilder had over him was his incredible punching power, but Fury very rapidly figured out that Wilder needs a lot of space to generate that power so he was over him all the fight, tired him out and then destroyed him.

It is not just the media that is hyping up the fighters, the fans of those fighters that are borderline psychotic are some of the reasons that the fighter might get some delusions of grandeur to the point that he/she thinks that he/she can defeat anyone. Rabid fanbase is the worst thing a celebrity can have because it indirectly affects you psychologically. I think that Wilder can still do some good fights but if he thinks that this fight with Fury is a career ending then it will probably come true.

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Quote from: TravelMug on February 19, 2021, 10:17:29 PM

Yep, but what makes people think that he completely lost it is when he blame his long time trainer and said that Breland is involved and wanted to see him lost against Tyson Fury. He obviously parted ways with Breland and put the blame on him for everything that happen to himself. And now he is being exposed as a lazy boxer so we have the reasons why he lost to Fury, didn't train hard, can't be teach new tricks and so he is the real losers here with the way he acts after the fight.

This is unfortunately what ends up killing the drive of many fighters, the media hypes them and then they think they are in fact as big as the hype only to find out later they were not, it was obvious Fury was the best out of the two when it came to technique and pure boxing ability, he is taller, heavier, has a longer reach and a long list of qualities that he had above Wilder, the only thing that Wilder had over him was his incredible punching power, but Fury very rapidly figured out that Wilder needs a lot of space to generate that power so he was over him all the fight, tired him out and then destroyed him.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on February 22, 2021, 03:32:16 PM

Quote from: hulla on February 22, 2021, 11:03:58 AM

I once somehow believe his first excuse about Fury having something in his gloves but now I know Wilder just can't get over the fight

Gloves, in ring entrance clothes, spiking his drinks. He has many excuses.

That excuses is merely his fault on his corner's fault, there's nothing to blame or he will just blame himself.
All of that can be corrected in the 3rd fight if he made it easy to happen, he can even wear nothing to solve the clothes problem and will hire a new trainer.
Unfortunately, he didn't do that, his excuses made him look like a real loser, from being a superstar, he has now become a clown in boxing.

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Quote from: hulla on February 22, 2021, 11:03:58 AM

Every individual that watch the fight knew Wilder trainer throw the towel as at the when expected time cause he's not fit to continue with the fight which he also said he's feeling dizzy due to the blood he lost through his ear cut.

Throwing in the towel is the perfect decision by his coach as Wilder was in no shape to continue the fight and he was eating punches. When he first fired his coach for throwing the towel i thought it was a gimmick to claim that his warrior spirit will not allow to go down like that but then once the continued with the same path it was comical as he turned out to be a sore looser.

Quote from: hulla on February 22, 2021, 11:03:58 AM

I once somehow believe his first excuse about Fury having something in his gloves but now I know Wilder just can't get over the fight

Gloves, in ring entrance clothes, spiking his drinks. He has many excuses.

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Quote from: hulla on February 22, 2021, 11:03:58 AM

Every individual that watch the fight knew Wilder trainer throw the towel as at the when expected time cause he's not fit to continue with the fight which he also said he's feeling dizzy due to the blood he lost through his ear cut.
I once somehow believe his first excuse about Fury having something in his gloves but now I know Wilder just can't get over the fight

It is not even about throwing the towel at the right time or wrong time, let's say he did it way too early, let's say he did it on the first second of the fight before anyone even had a punch in, as soon as the bell was ringed he just chucked the towel in, that still does 0% with the spiked water comment. I mean the idea here is that his trainer was so bad and was working with the other team that he spiked his water SO he must have thrown the towel too early as well?

I do not see a connection there, if dude spiked his water he could have just spiked even more and made him lose on the very first round as well, there is no possibility of something like that would have a connection with something else. Dude is just a bad bad loser that ended up having a great career, amazing end record for a career, and that's it, he is going to be someone we forget in a few years time.

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I did not see the interview (never knew anything about it) but I do remember reading somewhere a couple of years ago that Fury was born several weeks premature and weighted very little, it was a miracle he survived as a new born baby then went to beat severe depression and mental issues and went on to become heavyweight hampion of the world. Add to that discriminations that he and his family faced because they were from a traveller bakground, nothing managed to stop him. He has an amazing life story.

I read that his father named him Tyson (after Mike Tyson) because that was his favourite boxer and he knew in the ring Mike Tyson was a real fighter so after he was born and fighting for his life from the first second it made sense to him.

Quote from: OgNasty on February 21, 2021, 03:55:38 PM

I watched Fury's interview with Mike Tyson on his podcast the other night. I was surprised to learn that Fury was only 1lb when he was born and managed to get up to over 400lbs at his heaviest. That's got to be one of the most amazing human growth stories of all time... The guy has been through a lot growing up as a gypsy and from hearing his story it is easy to see how he got to where he is now. The guy has been a fighter since his first second on this planet.

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The guy is in depression he is afraid to face Tyson for fear that he will get beaten again so he is playing this kind of game, the fact that he fired his former trainer who is his long time trainer we can easily conclude that he is out of control and he cannot get over and move forward with that loss.

Deontay Wilder is exposing his weakness as he cannot accept defeat and Mark Breland who threw in the towel to save Wilder is a former professional boxer and he knows very well about the consequences for taking punches but he fired him and then coming up with excuses and it is not because he is afraid to fight for the trilogy but he wants to convince himself that he lost because of outsider interference and that will not help him in improving.

He should realized on whats better, risking out his entire boxing career or accepting just 1 lost in a fight? Trainor/Coach does know on when to throw the towel
and when its not and he's just minding off his boxer which is a good thing to be done when you get beat up since we know the risk on being hit consecutively.
Its just a right decision to make and he's just making it as a reason.

Every individual that watch the fight knew Wilder trainer throw the towel as at the when expected time cause he's not fit to continue with the fight which he also said he's feeling dizzy due to the blood he lost through his ear cut.
I once somehow believe his first excuse about Fury having something in his gloves but now I know Wilder just can't get over the fight

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Quote from: OgNasty on February 21, 2021, 03:55:38 PM

I watched Fury's interview with Mike Tyson on his podcast the other night. I was surprised to learn that Fury was only 1lb when he was born and managed to get up to over 400lbs at his heaviest. That's got to be one of the most amazing human growth stories of all time... The guy has been through a lot growing up as a gypsy and from hearing his story it is easy to see how he got to where he is now. The guy has been a fighter since his first second on this planet.

Yes, there are already some old articles that do mentioned it out.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tyson-fury-1lb-premature-baby-6924598
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/7867914/tyson-fury-premature-baby-to-heavyweight-boxing-champ/

what an unbelievable story.This man is already a fighter when he was born.

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I watched Fury's interview with Mike Tyson on his podcast the other night. I was surprised to learn that Fury was only 1lb when he was born and managed to get up to over 400lbs at his heaviest. That's got to be one of the most amazing human growth stories of all time... The guy has been through a lot growing up as a gypsy and from hearing his story it is easy to see how he got to where he is now. The guy has been a fighter since his first second on this planet.

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Wilder was never the best boxer technically and even before the fury fights he got almost knocked out by ortiz once in their first fight. He always hope to get one of his devastating right hands in because they can end a fight pretty much anytime but apart from that he is an average boxer.
I also think he should have also lost the first fight against fury. I mean fury was knocked down twice but on the other hand he dominated pretty much the whole rest of the fight.
Wilder now needs to stop looking for excuses and try to start a new run for a championship, but it will be hard.

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