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Topic: DeOS (by Razormind) is most likely a scam! EDIT: Ongoing investigation!!! - page 4. (Read 67163 times)

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Jawad went underground. He posted a bunch of bullshit facebook pics and hid any that might have comments. This leads me to believe he just made a new facebook page.

I wonder what he is going to do when all his money is gone? He can no longer pursue his career as it has some form of public identity associated with it. Looks like he will be cleaning toilets from then on.

Here is something funny https://soundcloud.com/jawad-yaqub

legendary
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Thanks, guys.

Frankly, I'd be more interested in this story making it to mainstream media so we might find out wtf the connection to Jawad and MI5 is/was. He and his family definitely resided on the British intelligence services' high-security Palace Barracks in Northern Ireland for a period of time, which is not exactly a normal state of affairs.

I've tried tipping off some news sites about the fascinating elements of this case, in the hope a journalist would want to take it forward but there's been no response/interest.
legendary
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"Common rogue from Russia with a bare ass."
Update on police action:

you really deserve more merit than you get. both literally and figuratively.

This ^^^^^
legendary
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Update on police action:

you really deserve more merit than you get. both literally and figuratively.
full member
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good !!!!

yeh we may not recover our funds but it would be sweet to know this Jawad is in jail where he belongs and hope he will feel some big d!cks down his a$$

in a not-so related case, here is some more hope...

https://news.bitcoin.com/alleged-british-bitcoin-scammer-extradited-to-us-for-defrauding-over-36-million/

to all US people who were scammed by Jawad, report to the SEC, report to BOTH the UK and the US !!!!
legendary
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Update on police action:

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This e-mail has been marked OFFICIAL [PUBLIC];

Dear Sir,

In relation to the case a report was forwarded to legal advisors which outlined the facts that were known about the case and they took the view that the chances of a successful prosecution were slim to none as the company was still operating and at that point we would be unable to prove that Razormind was not going to produce the platform as advertised.

Things have now taken a turn and we are now in a position to say that the company was set-up solely to commit fraud.  I have also been in conversation with HMRC (Tax men) who have requested that I identify any assets connected to Jawad to allow them to make a further move on him.

Unfortunately  I have to also inform you that even if we get him prosecuted the chances of the recovery of any of his victims finances will be very difficult at best with a high possibility that none will be recovered.

In order to put a full interview in place I am emailing you to ask if you would make a full Statement of evidence in relation you involvement with the company.

Unfortunately I require a hard copy signed by yourself.  This is required by our court system.  I also need to ask if you are willing to attend Court in the event that this case would go to a full trial. (This is all dependant on the defendants plea).

A statement can be made either by you attending your local Police Station and getting them to record a statement and posting a copy to me or recording a statement yourself on the documents I have attached. (It would be best if you send me a draft version via email first in order that it can be reviewed to ensure we have all the relevant points required)

I have included both formats of the statement form for you as I was unsure whether you wanted to type or hand write the statement. Please email me a copy before you post the original so that I can review it to be sure we cover all the points.

Please commence the statement by introducing yourself and giving detail of your profession.  DO NOT GIVE DETAIL OF YOUR ADDRESS.  Just state the you live at an address known to Police.  Do not paragraph or leave gaps. Also complete the witness detail form.

In the main body of the statement would you be so kind as to give detail to cover the following.

1.    How did you become aware of the existence of Razormind and what lead you to deal with this company.

2.    Detail of the product and its function you were hoping to purchase from this company.

3.    The choices given to you as method of payment. Include details in relation to transfer of funds, include details of wallet numbers. Please include total amount paid to Razormind.(This is essential to show the transfer of funds from your wallet to his.)
 
4.    If possible please include detail of any conversation with the company and with whom.

5.    Details of any agreement that you entered into with Razormind.

6.    A copy of the end user agreement in relation to the product.

7.    Detail in relation to what product if any you have received.

8.    Detail of any subsequent conversation or correspondence with Razormind in relation to you investing with the company. Include the result of any questions you asked.

9.     Please provide any email correspondence that was made between you and Razormind and refer to it in your statement. (Important to show what contact there was with Razormind).

Please email me a draft for review before committing to a full statement, this way we can be sure we have all points covered.

I know that is not ideal but probably the best we can do.

Any problems please do not hesitate to contact me.

 
Kind regards

Wm. Robinson
Economic Crime Unit
Southern Area
Police Service Northern Ireland
Detective Constable
P017871
Tel 101 Ext 40662
DD 02882256662

Anyone who has yet to file a criminal complaint about their stolen funds can contact DC Robinson directly to provide him with the relevant information. DM me if you need his email address as I didn't want to post it up in open forum.

member
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There should be a 7 day window between 1/11 and 1/17 when the address is public before the domain name becomes unregistered due to failure to renew. Probably a fake address, but hey this is the kind of stuff one should expect to happen forever when they go around trying to rob people on the internet.

razormind.co.uk was not renewed and is now not found.

"   Registration status:
        Renewal required.
        *** This registration has been SUSPENDED. ***"
newbie
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Anyone ever talked to Besir Kurtulmus, who worked with Jawad on something before the ICO scam?

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/lets-talk-bitcoin-177-towers-in-the-cloud
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I'd ask but he blocked me way back when I first started enquiring about whether he was aware that he was being promoted as an IT specialist on the Razormind site during the ICO, so I assume he had full knowledge of what Jawad was up to.



Yeah he knows what is going on without a doubt if he blocked you for that. He lives in America so he would be much easier for Americans to prosecute.
legendary
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Except it is a fake address because there is no company there.
Fake address for fake company.

Technically it was the Registered Office address for the company and the service address for Jawad for a period of time, so it isn't fake, per se, so much as it is not valid because the registered company has been struck off.

Maybe his friend in New York, James Ferguson, might know where Jawad is? He was listed on their website as being an IT guy but he's actually a practising medical doctor:
https://www.razormind.co.uk/experts
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James Ferguson
A native New Yorker, he’s been creating web apps from scratch for decades, and operates a diverse set of teams delivering high-traffic Facebook and Twitter properties for Razormind clients. Key skills are user engagement and building effective brands - often using new A.I. tech from Razor Labs. Fluent in both English and Spanish, James was recently in Haiti and Honduras providing medical aid and humanitarian relief. He manages Network business across the US and and works closely with government and health sectors. 

He posts daily under the twitter handle 'SulaymanF' https://twitter.com/SulaymanF

I'd ask but he blocked me way back when I first started enquiring about whether he was aware that he was being promoted as an IT specialist on the Razormind site during the ICO, so I assume he had full knowledge of what Jawad was up to.

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FYI, that's not a fake address. It is the actual address his family are known to have lived at and is INSIDE the gated and secured barracks of MI5's Northern Ireland HQ.

Yes, inside.



Except it is a fake address because there is no company there.
Fake address for fake company.

legendary
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Nominet did indeed uncover razormind.co.uk whois information and just as I suspected it is the same fake address used before:


    Registrant's address:
        55 Clive Road
        Holywood
        Greater London
        BT18 9RE
        United Kingdom



FYI, that's not a fake address. It is the actual address his family are known to have lived at and is INSIDE the gated and secured barracks of MI5's Northern Ireland HQ.

Yes, inside.

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Nominet did indeed uncover razormind.co.uk whois information and just as I suspected it is the same fake address used before:

WHOIS RESULTS
    Domain name:
        razormind.co.uk

    Registrant:
        Jawad Yaqub

    Registrant type:
        UK Individual

    Registrant's address:
        55 Clive Road
        Holywood
        Greater London
        BT18 9RE
        United Kingdom

    Data validation:
        Nominet was able to match the registrant's name and address against a 3rd party data source on 18-Oct-2016

    Registrar:
        Gandi [Tag = GANDI]
        URL: http://www.gandi.net

    Relevant dates:
        Registered on: 17-Dec-2009
        Expiry date:  17-Dec-2017
        Last updated:  11-Jan-2018

    Registration status:
        Renewal required.

    Name servers:
        brad.ns.cloudflare.com
        nicole.ns.cloudflare.com

    WHOIS lookup made at 02:37:28 15-Jan-2018
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He should have offered refunds to anyone who asked and he wouldn't be in this mess. He could still mitigate damage to his ass by giving refunds even now, but so far I haven't heard of even one customer receiving their bitcoin back.

As bitcoin value increases it will become more and more in everybody's best interest to go after him for a refund.


At the end of the day, there is no evidence to show that they made reasonable efforts to try to complete the project (and there is evidence to the contrary), which points to a breach of the purchase agreement and grounds for suing. They've liquidated the company with a load of undeclared assets that the UK Government is going to be interested in, I'd love to see what financial statements they actually released and where they stand with HMRC, the company director was arrogant enough to post photos of himself and some of his ill-gotten gains before vanishing without a trace... surely these guys don't have a leg to stand on? People should be reporting this to their fraud authorities and pushing for a prosecution, in addition to taking out individual actions to reclaim their investments.

ICO frauds will just continue to darken the crypto arena until everyone starts taking action and the legal framework gains experience of dealing with these scams.
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Email from nominet:
"Thanks for getting in touch about this domain name:

razormind.co.uk.

We've written to the site's registrant (and their registrar) to tell them they can either make changes to meet our opt-out criteria or we'll have to remove their opt-out and make the registrant's address public. They now have seven days to respond before we automatically do this."


There should be a 7 day window between 1/11 and 1/17 when the address is public before the domain name becomes unregistered due to failure to renew. Probably a fake address, but hey this is the kind of stuff one should expect to happen forever when they go around trying to rob people on the internet.

The internet never forgets!

member
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Another link for American victims of ICO fraud. CFTC is handling ICO scams these days.
https://forms.cftc.gov/_layouts/PublicForms/TipsAndComplaints.aspx

CFTC has filed complaints against companies in Dublin Ireland before as seen here:
http://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/pr6423-12


Jawad and Co. are in serious trouble!!!

Also....

whois info for razormind.co.uk shows this:
Expiry date:  17-Dec-2017


Looks like the site will go down soon if he does not re-register. I imagine since "someone" reported him as a trading individual they will be refusing registration unless he can provide real information to place in the whois. Think he will do that? I don't.
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Big fan of P2PS, the future of altcoins.
these days can anyone hide for long? Everyone has been profiled and all their faces and images are all over the digital world. Its not like we are living in the last century where someone could just disappear. No one can really get off the grid especially in this digital age.
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He should have offered refunds to anyone who asked and he wouldn't be in this mess. He could still mitigate damage to his ass by giving refunds even now, but so far I haven't heard of even one customer receiving their bitcoin back.

As bitcoin value increases it will become more and more in everybody's best interest to go after him for a refund.

Up until this DeOS thing he had an internet presence, but now it's obvious he is keeping a low profile. With his particular career choice it will be impossible for him to keep a low profile forever, and once he is out of bitcoin and out of money he will slip up and make himself easy to locate once again. It is quite apparent he isn't doing anything but playing video games now. If he were as smart as he thinks he is he would be putting those bitcoins to use to create an actual business (like say a real blockchain-based operating system maybe?).
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@plastick

very well done sir,
i doubt it works, but we never know. and the more people file complaints, the more likely they'll ultimately look at it,
or at least put this guy under severe watch until he makes a false move...

anyway I doubt this guy will ever be a grandpa, something very bad will happen to him for sure
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Anyone know to which organisation/police department UK-based holders should report the fraud ?

actionfraud.co.uk
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