Topic: 🎲 DiceSites.com - List of dice sites w/ statistics, graphs & verifiers - page 15. (Read 42116 times)

bitdice will remove clam. and br and profit is wrong probably other stat also on clam.

That is good, it would probably reflect poorly on your site if you were in fact faking stats. Although if you are faking stats then it is probably best to change your business practices right away, and maybe you would be eventually able to recover your reputation.

Since you are saying that you are not faking stats, you should give additional information to back up this claim, or you could possibly ask NLNico what information he would like to see in order to believe this claim.

I am not the one making this claim, NLNico is, I am saying that I trust what he is saying, however what he is saying also makes logical sense. The claim that NLNico is making is that you are trying to hide the fact that you have low volume by showing excessive activity on your recent bets table.

While this may make some level of sense in regards to your sports betting, this is simply not how dice betting works. With sports betting, if someone were to place bets on two different sportsbooks, the outcome of the match would be the same. However with dice betting, if you place the same bet on two different casinos, the outcome of the roll is almost certainly going to be different, this is due to how provably fairness works.

The FortuneJack faking stats "discussion" started here: "Are the wagered stats of 14+ million BTC on the homepage correct?", they denied having wrong stats a couple times, so I gave a bit more arguments in this post. Finally they acknowledged it was wrong and claimed it was because of some exchange rate bug and offered me a bug bounty in PM (probably to keep me quite - I refused.) I gave some more arguments on why the wrong stats couldn't be caused by an exchange rate bug. They basically just ignored it from there. Few days later they did lower their stats by 28 times but still basically ignored my arguments.

I know FortuneJack however does have some real players who deposit/withdraw without any problem, so I don't make a huge deal out of it. But it is obviously pretty sketchy and I won't ever list them on my site because of it (impossible for me to trust their stats after that.)

Thanks. I do plan to add several other sites when I finished the new version of my site. Unfortunately that is taking pretty long lol, but it will come eventually.

We don't fake the stats, it would not just be against our principles, as also we don't need it... we have released our Dice just few months ago, it's logic that we still don't have volumes neither liquidity like the ones verified on casinos operating for years. We feel absolutely no pressure on that, proof of that was our dice being kinda empty on the first days, as we started adding more features and personalising things as our users requested more and more are joining everyday.

It's funny how you claim a site is operating in scam and faking stats just because of the data you see on a table. If we wanted to hide you something, we would just hide the chart, simple.
I don't know if you are familiar with betbtc sports exchange but big part of our users are professional bettors that bet via API (copying other markets like betffair, betdaq, matchbook, etc), that's what is happening now in dice, not too many users but lots of rolls and probably strategies being tested.

If we were about to fake the stats it wouldn't be too smart to just deploy random values, we would make things a little bit more "normal" and "smooth", but we don't need it. With time passing and more users joining, we are sure that soon we would have fluid rolls and not only many and big rolls, but also a big number of users making them.

Can you tell me more about the FJ faking false stat? I was around for quite some time but i didnt hear about this before.

As i am a fan of your site, is it possible to add more gamble site to it? I see that there are other gambling sites but it is not included in your list.

I don't think that is the right response to what NLNico accused you of doing. NLNico is generally trusted and his opinion is generally respected throughout the gambling community, but this is besides the point, if more or less anyone made this claim, then you should have responded differently.

A much more appropriate response would have been to say something along the lines of "no, we are not faking our stats, what can I share with you to prove this?", or "yes we are faking our stats, but we did not realize the negative consequences of engaging in this behavior, we are going to change our business practices"

Based on NLNico's post above, I would say that I personally believe that you are faking your stats/volume.

True.

To be honest anyone who ever been on a dice site can just go to https://www.betbtc.co/casino/dice and look at the bet list themselves. All those 100% random amounts and chances.. LOL! That should really show enough for anyone who knows the basics of dice (people betting default 2x option, strategies with same payout, strategies with increasing amounts - martingale, etc.)

You violating the forum rules over and over again doesn't shine bad on me, but rather on you and on you only.
I think it is a joke you have not been banned for that, after openly flipping it to the rules times and times again.

OP probably doesn't care, I didn't mentioned that as warning but as an information.
Regarding to you, I am certain that you clearly give too much importance to betbtc since you are always following our posting and come to reply on them on a variety of topics with non-sense like here, you even create topics for us 

I understand you have lots of free time, but it would be more useful to play with some faucets out there (we have one on our dice!   )

Example:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betbtc-being-caught-violating-the-rules-for-the-fourth-time-1507681
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15742825
........ (I could continue but people already get the idea)

Shots fired! Hits,...oh wait.

You are free to have your own opinion, however you cannot make false accusations without any valid fundament or even a justification of that opinion.
We will use another third party verifier, already working for it.

Regards

I am trying to invest in more sites and using this to check the daily movement from the different sites. It surely let me have a better idea on how each sites perform for each day especially the daily wages. To me, i believe a lot in the daily wages.

His comment is just based on his hate for beking and dean. When BAC dosent get his way he gets butthurt and whine alot just like a little kid.

No, I won't support your site in any way. Problem is that you are obviously faking stats. My site is all about statistics and doesn't make any stupid subjective ratings, but rather lists sites based on wagered stats as "popularity indicator". When sites like FortuneJack and now you, are faking stats, I see that as serious sketchy behavior. I won't list sites that do shit like that.



Not sure. Begin June someone posted that most BTC of Dicenow are from a hack. Owner didn't reply, but did change the OP 5 days later saying "Dicenow.com is shutting down at the end of June. Please divest and withdraw all coins ASAP.". So either way, looks like they are gone.

Generally when a site/owner becomes inactive it is a red flag. Ice Dice, Win88, Dicenow, Diggit (was offline for months, no reply from owner), Coinichiwa (owner gone for 6 months now), etc. Always risky to leave coins on a site with inactive owner.




The maximum profit a player can win per bet, changes after each bet. This should be around 0.5-1% of the bankroll (or the "virtual bankroll" if margin-funding is allowed.) This way the player should never be able to win "all" the money based on the Kelly criterion theory.

Hope not! Some serious coins in the bankroll.

Can you explain more clearly, please?
What's happen if all people or many many people win in a dice site?
More and more people play and the dice site will never die. What's mean that you say?

it was nice to try all of the list 

dice on average should earn 1% of total wager, basicly when you play on primedice when you roll on 2x its not 50/50% its 49.50/50.49
so that is where dice earns
regards.
-Katerniko1

I want to ask about the profit of dice sites..
What's happen if all people or many many people win in a dice site? That dice site was down because it out of bankroll?
I don't know a dice sites get profit from where. Because I see that they set Commission base on Wager, and Wager include win and lose!!

Probably disappeared up it's own asshole... I bet Betking.io does the same within a calendar year of this post.

JD4Lyfe!