Did we actually really land on moon? - page 20.

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Quote from: notbatman on July 25, 2019, 06:52:25 PM

^^^ You're a retarded liar, all LASER light is monochromatic. That's just how stimulated emission works.

"... In laser action the stimulating emission triggers a chain reaction in which the radiation from one atom stimulates another in succession until all the excited atoms in the system have returned to normalcy. In doing so, coherent monochromatic light (light of a single wavelength) is emitted. ..." -- Encyclopaedia Britannica

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Nope. Laser light is close to one wavelength, but is not one wavelength. The central frequency of the emissions is cited as the frequency.

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^^^ You're a retarded liar, all LASER light is monochromatic. That's just how stimulated emission works.

"... In laser action the stimulating emission triggers a chain reaction in which the radiation from one atom stimulates another in succession until all the excited atoms in the system have returned to normalcy. In doing so, coherent monochromatic light (light of a single wavelength) is emitted. ..." -- Encyclopedia Britannica

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Quote from: notbatman on July 25, 2019, 07:35:57 AM

^^^ You're so full of shit you scientifically illiterate buffoon! All LASER light is monochromatic you fucking liar.

No it isn't.

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^^^ And the sextant is not able to measure size and distance beyond the limits of they eye... at which point size and distance blur into a standard maximum that doesn't fit what's really there.

You can't limit size and distance by the limitations of what the eye sees, and then not use the same eye limitations with the sextant.

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^^^ You're so full of shit you scientifically illiterate buffoon! All LASER light is monochromatic you fucking liar.

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Quote from: notbatman on July 24, 2019, 11:45:30 PM

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"...The first successful tests were carried out in 1962 when a team from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology succeeded in observing laser pulses reflected from the Moon's surface using a laser with a millisecond pulse length..." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment

Spendy, how do you explain this contradiction? They were bouncing lasers off the Moon almost a decade before the first Moon landing hoax.

It's not a contradiction. The retro reflector is highly monochromatic and has a distinctive signature on the photon returns. It is perhaps a thousand times more sensitive than bouncing off the surface.

"The surface" varies greatly in it's distance from Earth, because of lunar hills and valleys. The reflector allows accurate distance measurement down to about 1.5 inches.

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^^^ I've already demonstrated the Moon is 32 nautical miles wide through direct measurnt with a sextant which absolutely debunks the Moon landing story. Yet you satanic fags still persist with your fraudulent claims...

How do you prove there are retro-reflectors on the Moon if laser pulses can be bounced off the surface without them? I purpose that the laser pulses are being reflected off of the firmament and that the Moon isn't even required!

Fucking liars.

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Quote from: notbatman on July 24, 2019, 11:45:30 PM

"...The detection on Earth of reflections from laser ranging retro-reflectors (LRRRs, or mirrors used as targets for Earth-based tracking lasers) on Lunar Laser Ranging experiments left on the Moon is evidence of landings..." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings

"...The first successful tests were carried out in 1962 when a team from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology succeeded in observing laser pulses reflected from the Moon's surface using a laser with a millisecond pulse length..." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment

Spendy, how do you explain this contradiction? They were bouncing lasers off the Moon almost a decade before the first Moon landing hoax.

Reading comprehension isn't one of your strong points, so let me highlight what you missed in your quote from wikipedia.

"...The first successful tests were carried out in 1962 when a team from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology succeeded in observing laser pulses reflected from the Moon's surface using a laser with a millisecond pulse length..."

So the early experiments bounced the lasers directly off the Moon itself, not the reflectors the Apollo missions left on the Moon.

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Quote from: Spendulus on July 24, 2019, 04:46:46 PM

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Could be really happened but why they didn't send any men after that first landing on the moon in 1969,it would have been a tourist spot in 2019 if they did that with the technology in 1969.

Technology doesn't work that way.

Taking a wild guess here I'll suggest that while computer tech is billions of times superior to that of 1969, rocket technology maybe 1.1 - 1.2x improved. It's like asking how improved are the passenger jets of 1969 compared to those of today.

On the question of "did we land on the moon," this wikipedia article may be of interest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings

"...The detection on Earth of reflections from laser ranging retro-reflectors (LRRRs, or mirrors used as targets for Earth-based tracking lasers) on Lunar Laser Ranging experiments left on the Moon is evidence of landings..." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings

"...The first successful tests were carried out in 1962 when a team from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology succeeded in observing laser pulses reflected from the Moon's surface using a laser with a millisecond pulse length..." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment

Spendy, how do you explain this contradiction? They were bouncing lasers off the Moon almost a decade before the first Moon landing hoax.

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Chandrayaan-2 an Indian lunar mission is calculated to reach the moon by August 20. It is mentioned that the mission for moon by India was fifteen times less expensive than the one launched by NASA. Already Chandrayaan-1 is launched in 2008, here days after August 20 we can get more details about the surface of the moon. If lucky we'll get to see the flag that's been tied by USA on moon. Lol

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Could be really happened but why they didn't send any men after that first landing on the moon in 1969,it would have been a tourist spot in 2019 if they did that with the technology in 1969.

Technology doesn't work that way.

Taking a wild guess here I'll suggest that while computer tech is billions of times superior to that of 1969, rocket technology maybe 1.1 - 1.2x improved. It's like asking how improved are the passenger jets of 1969 compared to those of today.

On the question of "did we land on the moon," this wikipedia article may be of interest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings

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Quote from: mersal on July 24, 2019, 01:39:18 PM

Quote from: bkbirge on July 24, 2019, 01:23:15 PM

Quote from: mersal on July 24, 2019, 01:18:43 PM

But there was a movie directed in the same or previous year about landing on the moon and people claiming that the actual moon landing similar to that movie set.

It's totally true, Stanley Kubrick was contracted by NASA to make the movie of the moon landings but since he's such a perfectionist he demanded that it be filmed on location.

Any explanation for this from NASA.

All they say was why we need to lie such thing even if we do USSR might capture that we are lying.Logical but not a proof for that they landed.

100's of thousands of people worked on this project for 15+ years, if there had been a conspiracy it would have been revealed by them, or by the many outside observers. The people who question the validity of the moon landings are using magical thinking devoid of rationality, take data wildly out of context to prove unrelated 'points', and rely far more on appeal to false authority than not. Fun fact: youtube is not a research database.

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Quote from: bkbirge on July 24, 2019, 01:50:38 PM

Quote from: mersal on July 24, 2019, 01:39:18 PM

Quote from: bkbirge on July 24, 2019, 01:23:15 PM

Quote from: mersal on July 24, 2019, 01:18:43 PM

But there was a movie directed in the same or previous year about landing on the moon and people claiming that the actual moon landing similar to that movie set.

It's totally true, Stanley Kubrick was contracted by NASA to make the movie of the moon landings but since he's such a perfectionist he demanded that it be filmed on location.

Any explanation for this from NASA.

All they say was why we need to lie such thing even if we do USSR might capture that we are lying.Logical but not a proof for that they landed.

100's of thousands of people worked on this project for 15+ years, if there had been a conspiracy it would have been revealed by them, or by the many outside observers. The people who question the validity of the moon landings are using magical thinking devoid of rationality, take data wildly out of context to prove unrelated 'points', and rely far more on appeal to false authority than not. Fun fact: youtube is not a research database.

Could be really happened but why they didn't send any men after that first landing on the moon in 1969,it would have been a tourist spot in 2019 if they did that with the technology in 1969.

They did send more men after the first landing in 1969. 5 more missions after the first landed on the moon.
https://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/lunar/apollo.html

As to why we stopped going after 1972 the answer is clear, Congress did not want to fund it anymore, the public in general lost interest. Even now there are a lot of people that think scientific research and/or learning to live off planet are unnecessary expenditures, they'd rather we spend more money on military or welfare or their own tax benefit.

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Quote from: bkbirge on July 24, 2019, 01:23:15 PM

Quote from: mersal on July 24, 2019, 01:18:43 PM

But there was a movie directed in the same or previous year about landing on the moon and people claiming that the actual moon landing similar to that movie set.

It's totally true, Stanley Kubrick was contracted by NASA to make the movie of the moon landings but since he's such a perfectionist he demanded that it be filmed on location.

Any explanation for this from NASA.

All they say was why we need to lie such thing even if we do USSR might capture that we are lying.Logical but not a proof for that they landed.

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Quote from: mersal on July 24, 2019, 01:18:43 PM

But there was a movie directed in the same or previous year about landing on the moon and people claiming that the actual moon landing similar to that movie set.

It's totally true, Stanley Kubrick was contracted by NASA to make the movie of the moon landings but since he's such a perfectionist he demanded that it be filmed on location.

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Quote from: earlyfacer on July 24, 2019, 09:12:15 AM

Quote from: BADecker on June 03, 2019, 01:10:05 PM

We went!

We the people weren't shown the real operation.

Consider. Back before NASA became NASA, we had a method for going to Mars and Saturn and back in, say, 5 years. But nobody knew about it, and relatively few people know about it today. If Government can cover something like this up from people even knowing about it, think about the fact that they used it way back then, and we still don't know about it.

It was tested, and shown to work.

To the Stars by Atom Bomb:

Quote from: https://newatlas.com/orion-project-atom-bomb-spaceship/49454/

Imagine it's July 20, 1969 and no one is paying much attention as Neil Armstrong sets foot on the Moon, because all eyes are on the first manned mission to reach Saturn. That may sound absurd, but while NASA was figuring out how to use rockets to reach the Moon, a super secret US government project was developing a gigantic reusable spaceship powered by atom bomb explosions that was designed to carry a crew of 20 to the outer Solar System by 1970 as a first step to the stars. New Atlas looks at the story behind the original Orion Project.

the picture says it all that we have landed, no Photoshop that time.

But there was a movie directed in the same or previous year about landing on the moon and people claiming that the actual moon landing similar to that movie set.

Nasa is the one who created idea for photoshop. Cool

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Quote from: BADecker on June 03, 2019, 01:10:05 PM

We went!

We the people weren't shown the real operation.

Consider. Back before NASA became NASA, we had a method for going to Mars and Saturn and back in, say, 5 years. But nobody knew about it, and relatively few people know about it today. If Government can cover something like this up from people even knowing about it, think about the fact that they used it way back then, and we still don't know about it.

It was tested, and shown to work.

To the Stars by Atom Bomb:

Quote from: https://newatlas.com/orion-project-atom-bomb-spaceship/49454/

Imagine it's July 20, 1969 and no one is paying much attention as Neil Armstrong sets foot on the Moon, because all eyes are on the first manned mission to reach Saturn. That may sound absurd, but while NASA was figuring out how to use rockets to reach the Moon, a super secret US government project was developing a gigantic reusable spaceship powered by atom bomb explosions that was designed to carry a crew of 20 to the outer Solar System by 1970 as a first step to the stars. New Atlas looks at the story behind the original Orion Project.

the picture says it all that we have landed, no Photoshop that time.

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Quote from: Clutch_Jones on July 23, 2019, 07:42:47 PM

Quote from: iamsheikhadil on June 03, 2019, 12:51:39 AM

Ok, don't throw me into the same basket for the believers of conspiracy theories.

I believe Earth is NOT flat. I don't believe there are aliens in Area 51.

But this question is factually not very convincing and it is, did we actually land on moon in 1969.

There are many compelling evidences, facts etc that proves that indeed we landed on moon.

But even in 21st century where there an accident with Kalpana Chawla who merely went to space and came back, it sounds too good to be true that in 1969, we landed on the moon which is around 300000 kms or 186000 miles from the Earth with those time of technologies and successfully came back. Remember, the first apple computer was launched in 1976.

I'm not saying we didn't, I'm just saying that it's not really a question that can be debunked like other theories which says Earth is flat.

Well framed question.

Amazing it fits the same premise of "Who built the Egyptian Pyramids"?
Who constructed the Megalithic structures?
How did they cut round hole saw type holes through solid granite,
fit and polish to perfection such large weighty massive rocks.?

How did they build the Hoover Dam?
The Technologies, alloys, math, fabrics etc developed to attain that Moon goal
were not publicly available in the 1960's which was really not that long ago.
The Russians sent a Man in space, this is clear and the rocket technologies did exist.
The Russians also had the technologies to verify if the USA did actually succeed in that moon mission,
otherwise they could have made a laughing stock out of America's lofty achievements.
The relics are still there and can be seen...

The cutting edge of medicine, tech, space exploration etc is so far advanced
at this day people will wonder how they were achievable a hundred years from now.

But I didn't found no explanation for the moving flags on moon while they landed on 1969.

BTW we passed 50 years of that scenario on July 20 2019. Cool

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Quote from: Clutch_Jones on July 23, 2019, 07:42:47 PM

Quote from: iamsheikhadil on June 03, 2019, 12:51:39 AM

Ok, don't throw me into the same basket for the believers of conspiracy theories.

I believe Earth is NOT flat. I don't believe there are aliens in Area 51.

But this question is factually not very convincing and it is, did we actually land on moon in 1969.

There are many compelling evidences, facts etc that proves that indeed we landed on moon.

But even in 21st century where there an accident with Kalpana Chawla who merely went to space and came back, it sounds too good to be true that in 1969, we landed on the moon which is around 300000 kms or 186000 miles from the Earth with those time of technologies and successfully came back. Remember, the first apple computer was launched in 1976.

I'm not saying we didn't, I'm just saying that it's not really a question that can be debunked like other theories which says Earth is flat.

Well framed question.

Amazing it fits the same premise of "Who built the Egyptian Pyramids"?
Who constructed the Megalithic structures?
How did they cut round hole saw type holes through solid granite,
fit and polish to perfection such large weighty massive rocks.?

How did they build the Hoover Dam?
The Technologies, alloys, math, fabrics etc developed to attain that Moon goal
were not publicly available in the 1960's which was really not that long ago.
The Russians sent a Man in space, this is clear and the rocket technologies did exist.
The Russians also had the technologies to verify if the USA did actually succeed in that moon mission,
otherwise they could have made a laughing stock out of America's lofty achievements.
The relics are still there and can be seen...

The cutting edge of medicine, tech, space exploration etc is so far advanced
at this day people will wonder how they were achievable a hundred years from now.

That's a good analysis.

I guess it's more of a complicated statement because when the president said they were going to the moon by that decade, the reputation of the president were to be also saved which is also a major reason I feel now that they wouldn't fake such a thing.

I wonder if they had that technologies back then and didn't make it public, what technologies they have now which aren't public yet ?!

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Quote from: iamsheikhadil on June 03, 2019, 12:51:39 AM

Ok, don't throw me into the same basket for the believers of conspiracy theories.

I believe Earth is NOT flat. I don't believe there are aliens in Area 51.

But this question is factually not very convincing and it is, did we actually land on moon in 1969.

There are many compelling evidences, facts etc that proves that indeed we landed on moon.

But even in 21st century where there an accident with Kalpana Chawla who merely went to space and came back, it sounds too good to be true that in 1969, we landed on the moon which is around 300000 kms or 186000 miles from the Earth with those time of technologies and successfully came back. Remember, the first apple computer was launched in 1976.

I'm not saying we didn't, I'm just saying that it's not really a question that can be debunked like other theories which says Earth is flat.

Well framed question.

Amazing it fits the same premise of "Who built the Egyptian Pyramids"?
Who constructed the Megalithic structures?
How did they cut round hole saw type holes through solid granite,
fit and polish to perfection such large weighty massive rocks.?

How did they build the Hoover Dam?
The Technologies, alloys, math, fabrics etc developed to attain that Moon goal
were not publicly available in the 1960's which was really not that long ago.
The Russians sent a Man in space, this is clear and the rocket technologies did exist.
The Russians also had the technologies to verify if the USA did actually succeed in that moon mission,
otherwise they could have made a laughing stock out of America's lofty achievements.
The relics are still there and can be seen...

The cutting edge of medicine, tech, space exploration etc is so far advanced
at this day people will wonder how they were achievable a hundred years from now.

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Quote from: akram143 on July 23, 2019, 03:21:31 PM

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Quote from: WackMack on July 22, 2019, 09:15:38 PM

there was also an ico project to raise funds for a rocket to see what the earth really is. who knows what end?

Sounds like a scam for gullible investors to me.

People came up with new idea to scam the noobs calling themselves as crypto investors. Grin

Now, let's get back to landing on the moon.

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