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legendary
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August 16, 2019, 08:08:08 PM
We won't use Orion technology from the 1960s, but Russia is looking at it. Watch the video.


Animated Rendering of Space Battles With Nuclear Orion Spaceships



In George Dyson's book, he mentioned an Orion battleship model that was shown to President Kennedy. President Kennedy chose not to develop the project. Kennedy made this choice because he did not want the arms race to go that extreme. This was not a cancellation based upon technical problems.

Russia is now building superweapon concepts that were conceived in the 1960s that were never built.

A technically feasible superweapon is the Project Orion Nuclear Battleships.

Russia's President Putin seems to making different choices in regards to using nuclear weapons into feasible superweapons.

This video shows where this ends up with fleets of nuclear Orion Battleships fighting in our solar system.

Rhysy says that he could have made this video far better and it was not finished. He wanted to add voice-overs and make other improvements. Go to this link to see Rhysy blog post discussing the video and a full index of the scenes in it. If there is enough financial maybe Rhysy could make improved visions of what Russia could develop in its desperate effort to use nuclear superweapons to stay relevant.


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jr. member
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August 16, 2019, 06:24:54 PM
I feel pretty much the same after all these years trying to convince myself about this issue.

I know there are many proofs:
Lunar Ranging Retro Reflector (LRRR);
Hammer-feather drop; and
More moon landings.

And then I remember how primitive 60s cars and bikes are, and ask "really?"


We were able to split Atoms in 1940s. What do you say about that? A nuclear physicist, will tell you that the mathematics behind the process is capable to drive more than average person nut. Yet, USA did it in the 40s and were able to create the first Atomic Bomb.

Cars and bikes were made by private companies. Space Ships were made by the military scientists. Military scientists and projects are always more advanced and far more funded. Comparing those primitive cars of 60s to the USA Rocket Science of the same period is like comparing Africa to America simply because the names begins with "A" and ends with "a".

America landed on the Moon in July 20, 1969 and that's the fact.
newbie
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August 16, 2019, 03:03:13 PM
Ok, don't throw me into the same basket for the believers of conspiracy theories.

I believe Earth is NOT flat. I don't believe there are aliens in Area 51.

But this question is factually not very convincing and it is, did we actually land on moon in 1969.

There are many compelling evidences, facts etc that proves that indeed we landed on moon.

But even in 21st century where there an accident with Kalpana Chawla who merely went to space and came back, it sounds too good to be true that in 1969, we landed on the moon which is around 300000 kms or 186000 miles from the Earth with those time of technologies and successfully came back. Remember, the first apple computer was launched in 1976.

I'm not saying we didn't, I'm just saying that it's not really a question that can be debunked like other theories which says Earth is flat.

Did humans land on the moon?
No, they had powerful help while faking it.

My race was there a year or two before we decided to secretly mate with yours. UFO Chaos has arrived on Earth, please do not be afraid.


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legendary
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August 16, 2019, 02:56:23 PM
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Nothing to say that's remotely on topic?
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August 15, 2019, 03:31:57 PM
I think the footage looked very decent and authentic. The only thing that I find strange is that the flag was waving, even though there is no wind on the Moon. But on the other hand, it seems strange that Americans neglected this easy-to-spot part. They explain it as that the astronaut caused the waving, not the wind.
Still lot of unknown answer on the issue like shadow of atronauts on moon and the c mark on every rock at that footage.
legendary
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August 15, 2019, 02:36:13 PM
Yes, Americans landed on the moon, and others sent probes and other garbage. Most recently Israel had an "oops" moment sending a probe that crashed and spread a bunch of things including tardigrades (living water microscopic creatures that can actually hibernate in space endlessly).

There are also the latest Chinese probes, and from several other countries. I think even SpaceX is going to send a Japanese richman tourist to orbit in a couple of years.

Technology in the 60ies was adequate enough, especially within the military and state driven programs of the day. After the space race was considered "over", things slowed and even devolved a bit, programs altered and scraped, budgets cut, etc.

Rocket technology hasn't changed that much, but better materials exist now. SpaceX is successfully reusing stages, something nobody else managed to do before. Computers are far more powerful simplifying navigation. Even live video remains pristine during all stages, unlike before.

Just think about it. A rich American managed to do what 50 years ago took the whole Soviet Union and United States state agencies to pull off.

The moon landing was staged thing is old OLD conspiracy theory that predates youtube, but meh. Look at the Chinese pictures of the moon from the Chang'e probes. If you want to physically be there, just become rich and you have a chance to pay Elon Musk (or some other competitor) for the privilege. Just imagine, spend all your fortune to fly into space... Your contribution might actually help a little develop the space company you backed with your fortune.
newbie
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August 15, 2019, 01:35:35 PM
I think the footage looked very decent and authentic. The only thing that I find strange is that the flag was waving, even though there is no wind on the Moon. But on the other hand, it seems strange that Americans neglected this easy-to-spot part. They explain it as that the astronaut caused the waving, not the wind.
legendary
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August 15, 2019, 11:44:28 AM
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First, this guy is an actor and a mason, NOT a true scientist. ....

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I haven't always agreed with things that he said, and he's not currently a research scientist, more one whose job is explaining science to the public.

But he can run light years around your trash dribble.

By the way, lay off the stupid "bonus" please.
legendary
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August 13, 2019, 03:02:11 PM

From vaccination definitely not, all astronauts were well educated people, anti-vaxxer are mostly uneducated people prone to conspiracy theories.

But maybe they ran from anti-vaxxers. Grin

Part of the point. Vaccine education is fake education. Anti-vaxxers are simply people who have been educated the rest of the way.

The idea of astronauts being anti-vaxxers was just a joke. Of course they welcomed vaccinations against moon bugs.

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legendary
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August 13, 2019, 02:52:31 PM


Riiiiight...

First, this guy is an actor and a mason, NOT a true scientist. Second, you have been bamboozled by religion of 21th century - scientism.







Sure, Neil deGrasse Tyson, who majored physics at Harvard  among other things is a hack and an actor  and anonymous troll who i'm sure has 0 clue about physics and astrophysics know  who is real of fake scientist.I am sure that you are anti-vaxxer too..

If he is not a real scientist, can you share us some names of reputable scientists that confirm your claim about fake moon landing?



Of course, maybe the real reason those guys went to the moon, was to get away from vaccinations.

 Roll Eyes

From vaccination definitely not, all astronauts were well educated people, anti-vaxxer are mostly uneducated people prone to conspiracy theories.

But maybe they ran from anti-vaxxers. Grin
legendary
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August 13, 2019, 02:13:29 PM


Riiiiight...

First, this guy is an actor and a mason, NOT a true scientist. Second, you have been bamboozled by religion of 21th century - scientism.







Sure, Neil deGrasse Tyson, who majored physics at Harvard  among other things is a hack and an actor  and anonymous troll who i'm sure has 0 clue about physics and astrophysics know  who is real of fake scientist.I am sure that you are anti-vaxxer too..

If he is not a real scientist, can you share us some names of reputable scientists that confirm your claim about fake moon landing?



Of course, maybe the real reason those guys went to the moon, was to get away from vaccinations.

 Roll Eyes
legendary
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August 13, 2019, 02:00:39 PM


Riiiiight...

First, this guy is an actor and a mason, NOT a true scientist. Second, you have been bamboozled by religion of 21th century - scientism.







Sure, Neil deGrasse Tyson, who majored physics at Harvard  among other things is a hack and an actor  and anonymous troll who i'm sure has 0 clue about physics and astrophysics know  who is real of fake scientist.I am sure that you are anti-vaxxer too..

If he is not a real scientist, can you share us some names of reputable scientists that confirm your claim about fake moon landing?

legendary
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August 13, 2019, 01:23:26 PM
Silly conspiracy theorists! Landing on the moon! One of the silliest conspiracy theories around.


American Pravda: How the CIA Invented "Conspiracy Theories"American Pravda:



A year or two ago, I saw the much-touted science fiction film Interstellar, and although the plot wasn't any good, one early scene was quite amusing. For various reasons, the American government of the future claimed that our Moon Landings of the late 1960s had been faked, a trick aimed at winning the Cold War by bankrupting

Russia into fruitless space efforts of its own. This inversion of historical reality was accepted as true by nearly everyone, and those few people who claimed that Neil Armstrong had indeed set foot on the Moon were universally ridiculed as "crazy conspiracy theorists." This seems a realistic portrayal of human nature to me.=

Obviously, a large fraction of everything described by our government leaders or presented in the pages of our most respectable newspapers—from the 9/11 attacks to the most insignificant local case of petty urban corruption—could objectively be categorized as a "conspiracy theory" but such words are never applied. Instead, use of that highly loaded phrase is reserved for those theories, whether plausible or fanciful, that do not possess the endorsement stamp of establishmentarian approval.


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legendary
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August 12, 2019, 07:07:22 PM


Riiiiight...

First, this guy is an actor and a mason, NOT a true scientist. Second, you have been bamboozled by religion of 21th century - scientism.

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I doubt many people need someone who doesn't believe we went to the moon explaining to them what a true scientist is.
hero member
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August 12, 2019, 06:59:28 PM


Riiiiight...

First, this guy is an actor and a mason, NOT a true scientist. Second, you have been bamboozled by religion of 21th century - scientism.




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legendary
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August 11, 2019, 09:21:08 AM
The reason the USSR fell is that they couldn't motivate their people to work hard. In fact, their regulation of their people stifled the people into making (and then drinking) some of the best Vodka in the world.

The USA is stifling its people with regulations, as well. But the USA has one thing the USSR didn't... the common law jury. As long as jury members have some sense left, they will veto the judge and the government.

Cool

Fuck me dead!  I guess you never heard of Stakhanovites.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stakhanovite_movement

Work hard?  They worked them to exhaustion and in some cases to death.

The empire collapsed because of central mismanagement, logistic inefficiencies, poor planning, elimination of private property, incompetent communist leaders at pretty much every level, and corruption at all levels.

Workers' hard work is what held this monster together, despite the ill-formed system.

Under Stalin, you either worked hard or you did not work (live) at all.

Well, thank you.

Didn't you notice that you said that they worked their workers too hard? That's mismanagement. Or intentional self-destruction.

In other words, f***ing yourself dead, would be another form of overwork. But in your case, it wouldn't be mismanagement, because you asked for it.

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legendary
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August 11, 2019, 09:10:12 AM
The reason the USSR fell is that they couldn't motivate their people to work hard. In fact, their regulation of their people stifled the people into making (and then drinking) some of the best Vodka in the world.

The USA is stifling its people with regulations, as well. But the USA has one thing the USSR didn't... the common law jury. As long as jury members have some sense left, they will veto the judge and the government.

Cool

Fuck me dead!  I guess you never heard of Stakhanovites.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stakhanovite_movement

Work hard?  They worked them to exhaustion and in some cases to death.

The empire collapsed because of central mismanagement, logistic inefficiencies, poor planning, elimination of private property, incompetent communist leaders at pretty much every level, and corruption at all levels.

Workers' hard work is what held this monster together, despite the ill-formed system.

Under Stalin, you either worked hard or you did not work (live) at all.
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