@Spendulus,
I'm not trying to win a debate, this is not a game of pipul. I'm making a point about being lied to, manipulated, defrauded and gaslit about the claim a bunch of clowns landed a cardboard box on the Moon.
You want to get behind the guys trying to fuck me over with their fraud? I hate you fucking retards, go fucking kill yourself shit for brains!
I don't care who you hate, and you are definitely not winning any debate.
Every time you "make your point," and hear a counter argument, you ignore it and attempt to sidestep to another related issue. That's intellectually dishonest, as well as an acknowledgement of having lost argument after argument.
Ad hominem, goal-shifting, misrepresenting quotes, outright making things up, those are your tactics.
Incidentally, can you prove it was a cardboard box? I don't think you can. I think you made that up. There is one at the Smithsonian. The engineering drawings say it wasn't cardboard.
https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/apollo-lunar-module-lem-lm-nasm-exhibit-museums-smithsonian-exhibits-ai-spaceIs it cardboard? Be honest for just once. I think your brain is cardboard. Is it?
Oh, by the way.
Here's some of the actual history of the Lunar Excursion Module (LEM).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhUGNaLgDJ8Notbatman suffers from a well known psychological issue:
''Karen Douglas, a psychologist at the University of Kent in the United Kingdom who studies the psychology of conspiracy theories, says flat-earthers' beliefs cohere with those of other conspiracy theorists she has studied.
"It seems to me that these people do generally believe that the Earth is flat. I'm not seeing anything that sounds as if they're just putting that idea out there for any other reason," Douglas told Live Science.
She said all conspiracy theories share a basic thrust: They present an alternative theory about an important issue or event, and construct an (often) vague explanation for why someone is covering up that "true" version of events. "One of the major points of appeal is that they explain a big event but often without going into details," she said. "A lot of the power lies in the fact that they are vague."
The self-assured way in which conspiracy theorists stick to their story imbues that story with special appeal. After all, flat-earthers are more adamant that the Earth is flat than most people are that the Earth is round (probably because the rest of us feel we have nothing to prove). "If you're faced with a minority viewpoint that is put forth in an intelligent, seemingly well-informed way, and when the proponents don't deviate from these strong opinions they have, they can be very influential. We call that minority influence," Douglas said.''