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legendary
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June 23, 2019, 10:45:26 AM
@BADecker,

   The maximum distance the eye can see (angular resolution limit) can be used to measure objects, so I'm not measuring an objects size and distance using only degrees like you claim.



@Spendulus,

   NASA states in their documentation on their space sextant that an astronaut has to re-calibrate it every day by spotting a star. However when asked at the press conference after they returned, the Apollo 11 astronauts claimed they didn't recall seeing any stars on their journey to the Moon.

How do you reconcile this discrepancy?
legendary
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June 22, 2019, 09:05:28 PM
@BADecker,

   If you can't show the solution for measuring angular size with the eye I just provided has any errors, then you need to admit the Sun & Moon are both 32 nautical miles in diameter or you're the one at the funny farm. A 32 mile wide Moon debunks the claim man landed what appears to be a cardboard box wrapped in foil with bicycle parts sticking out on it.

https://i.imgur.com/zS0G3hs.jpg

BTW the 90 deg angle marking is off and it's not an error as it can't be drawn at 90 deg due to optical convergence.






"...Why is it that I don't believe you have ever had a sextant in your hands?..."

I can just stick my thumbs out then measure the base and top while one thumb stays at eye level.

Standard trig shows that you can't find distance or size with only the degrees.

One degree of earth circumference, is about 66 miles at the surface of the earth, which is about 2,133 miles for 32 degrees... at the surface of the earth.

Btw, making a cardboard sextant shows how goofy you are.

Cool
One thing that stops people from learning is talking or typing.

Degree, minutes, seconds...

Lol... AND IT'S GOING TO BE SPHERICAL TRIG!!!!


Looks like our next moon shot will be centrifugal. However, we are the beginning of this. But it shouldn't take long to develop.


Secretive Startup SpinLaunch Gets 1st Launch Contract for US Military



The secretive startup SpinLaunch, which aims to fling satellites into space without a traditional launch pad, has just secured its first launch contract.

In a statement today (June 19), SpinLaunch announced that it has received a "launch prototype contract" from the U.S. Department of Defense under a deal arranged by the Defense Innovation Unit. The Long Beach, California-based company aims to launch its first test flights in early 2020 from Spaceport America in New Mexico.

SpinLaunch is developing a "kinetic energy-based launch system" that accelerates a small payload-carrying booster to hypersonic speeds with a spinning system on the ground. A chemical rocket would kick in once the payload has been launched from the ground system.

An illustration released with the announcement depicted a SpinLaunch booster attached to the arm of what appeared to be a centrifuge.


Check the links and video.


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legendary
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June 22, 2019, 06:34:49 PM
@BADecker,

   If you can't show the solution for measuring angular size with the eye I just provided has any errors, then you need to admit the Sun & Moon are both 32 nautical miles in diameter or you're the one at the funny farm. A 32 mile wide Moon debunks the claim man landed what appears to be a cardboard box wrapped in foil with bicycle parts sticking out on it.

https://i.imgur.com/zS0G3hs.jpg

BTW the 90 deg angle marking is off and it's not an error as it can't be drawn at 90 deg due to optical convergence.






"...Why is it that I don't believe you have ever had a sextant in your hands?..."

I can just stick my thumbs out then measure the base and top while one thumb stays at eye level.

Standard trig shows that you can't find distance or size with only the degrees.

One degree of earth circumference, is about 66 miles at the surface of the earth, which is about 2,133 miles for 32 degrees... at the surface of the earth.

Btw, making a cardboard sextant shows how goofy you are.

Cool
One thing that stops people from learning is talking or typing.

Degree, minutes, seconds...

Lol... AND IT'S GOING TO BE SPHERICAL TRIG!!!!
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
June 22, 2019, 06:07:14 PM
@BADecker,

   If you can't show the solution for measuring angular size with the eye I just provided has any errors, then you need to admit the Sun & Moon are both 32 nautical miles in diameter or you're the one at the funny farm. A 32 mile wide Moon debunks the claim man landed what appears to be a cardboard box wrapped in foil with bicycle parts sticking out on it.

https://i.imgur.com/zS0G3hs.jpg

BTW the 90 deg angle marking is off and it's not an error as it can't be drawn at 90 deg due to optical convergence.






"...Why is it that I don't believe you have ever had a sextant in your hands?..."

I can just stick my thumbs out then measure the base and top while one thumb stays at eye level.

Standard trig shows that you can't find distance or size with only the degrees.

One degree of earth circumference, is about 66 miles at the surface of the earth, which is about 2,133 miles for 32 degrees... at the surface of the earth.

Btw, making a cardboard sextant shows how goofy you are.

Cool
legendary
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June 22, 2019, 05:54:59 PM
^^^ I found this, it's made out of cardboard.

   How To Build A Homemade Sextant -- https://youtu.be/hOLjEj8OxJM




edit:

Even easier, clip a bic mechanical pencil to the protractor and hold it with two fingers by the eraser.

Thanks but you're not going to talk like you are knowledgable with me about sextants. You're not.

However one thing that you want want to know is that the Apollo astronauts navigated from the Earth globe to the Moon globe using ... Sextants ...
legendary
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June 22, 2019, 03:16:25 PM
^^^ I found this, it's made out of cardboard.

   How To Build A Homemade Sextant -- https://youtu.be/hOLjEj8OxJM




edit:

Even easier, clip a bic mechanical pencil to the protractor and hold it with two fingers by the eraser.
legendary
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June 22, 2019, 02:29:55 PM
^^^ The preponderance of evidence that indicates it's a hoax makes the likelihood it's made of cardboard almost a certainty. Just like the preponderance of evidence that the globe is a lie makes flat earth almost a certainty; what little doubt remains is put to rest by direct measurement.

No it doesn't. There isn't any "preponderance of evidence," in fact there isn't any evidence at all. Zero. Zip. Nada. Only in your own mind. Very think AL sheet is what it was. You just like saying the word "cardboard." Maybe because those pizzas you deliver in mama's car taste like cardboard?

You've completely failed in showing anything that refutes the lunar landings.

In the case of the round Earth, as I earlier mentioned, this is proved mathematically. There's no room for your opinion and no "evidence" you can present.

Also, you seem to not think very logically. This statement of yours...

""makes the likelihood it's made of cardboard almost a certainty..."

This makes no sense. If you went to Home Depot to find materials to build a fake LEM from, there wouldn't be any cardboard to buy, would there?
legendary
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June 22, 2019, 11:50:59 AM
^^^ The preponderance of evidence that indicates it's a hoax makes the likelihood it's made of cardboard almost a certainty. Just like the preponderance of evidence that the globe is a lie makes flat earth almost a certainty; what little doubt remains is put to rest by direct measurement.
legendary
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June 22, 2019, 11:33:30 AM
@BADecker,

   If you can't show the solution for measuring angular size with the eye I just provided has any errors, then you need to admit the Sun & Moon are both 32 nautical miles in diameter or you're the one at the funny farm. A 32 mile wide Moon debunks the claim man landed what appears to be a cardboard box wrapped in foil with bicycle parts sticking out on it.

https://i.imgur.com/7vNhKqS.jpg

BTW the 90 deg angle marking is off and it's not an error as it can't be drawn at 90 deg due to optical convergence.






"...Why is it that I don't believe you have ever had a sextant in your hands?..."

I can just stick my thumbs out then measure the base and top while one thumb stays at eye level.

Or you could use a sextant to figure your position on the Earth, the GLOBE, down to a precision of a couple miles. Like men did hundreds of years ago.

Thank you for admitting the LEM only "looks like and might be cardboard," instead of continuing to claim it was cardboard.
legendary
Activity: 2212
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June 22, 2019, 11:12:10 AM
@BADecker,

   If you can't show the solution for measuring angular size with the eye I just provided has any errors, then you need to admit the Sun & Moon are both 32 nautical miles in diameter or you're the one at the funny farm. A 32 mile wide Moon debunks the claim man landed what appears to be a cardboard box wrapped in foil with bicycle parts sticking out on it.

https://i.imgur.com/zS0G3hs.jpg
version 2.1 -- https://i.imgur.com/15e5eZH.jpg

BTW the 90 deg angle marking is off and it's not an error as it can't be drawn at 90 deg due to optical convergence.






"...Why is it that I don't believe you have ever had a sextant in your hands?..."

I can just stick my thumbs out then measure the base and top while one thumb stays at eye level.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
June 22, 2019, 09:41:27 AM
"...Your argument is always about me and never the subject matter at hand..."
"...No my argument is about how are you..."

oh really?

Don't mind Astargath. When he can't explain or understand something himself, all he does is question others. He continues to question them after they give him the answers to the exact things he questions them about. Often he quotes the answers that others give, right in the same post where he asks the questions they answered in the posts he quoted.

It's kinda fun playing with him, but you can probably find him in the basement of the same funny farm you are in.

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legendary
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June 22, 2019, 08:43:17 AM
"...Your argument is always about me and never the subject matter at hand..."
"...No my argument is about how are you..."

oh really?
hero member
Activity: 1624
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June 22, 2019, 08:15:11 AM
^^^ Clearly my ability to articulate the argument proves I've studied these physical experiments to some degree.

Your argument is always about me and never the subject matter at hand, clearly your interest lies with maintaining the status quo of "official" lies by any argument necessary (pipul) not determining facts from fiction.







No my argument is about how are you judging those experiments if you are not a scientist? How do you know you have enough knowledge to determine whether those experiments are what they claim to be? You have no answer to this because you simply believe them.
legendary
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June 22, 2019, 07:55:52 AM
^^^ Clearly my ability to articulate the argument proves I've studied these physical experiments to some degree.

Your argument is always about me and never the subject matter at hand, clearly your interest lies with maintaining the status quo of "official" lies by any argument necessary (pipul) not determining facts from fiction.





hero member
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June 22, 2019, 06:43:45 AM
^^ the 1887 M&M experiment proved the Earth is motionless.
^^ Then in 1939 Dufour & Prunier replicated the Sagnac experiment taking rotating frames of reference into account thus falsifying relativity.

How do you know this? Did you determine it based on your extensive knowledge of science? How do you know you are suitable to interpret their results accurately if you haven't studied it?
legendary
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June 22, 2019, 04:22:10 AM
[X-POST]

I created this to show how to measure the angular size of objects. If you see any errors let me know.

https://i.imgur.com/zS0G3hs.jpg
version 2.1 -- https://i.imgur.com/15e5eZH.jpg

The angles that you have marked as 90° are not 90°. As a result, the calculations for P, E, and C are not correct.

P, E and C are not calculated from the diagram markings, they are calculated using measured and known values thus they are correct.

The marked angles can't be drawn at 90° due to optical convergence, hence the 90° angle notation to indicate their actual values. The reason for this is that parallel lines optically converge to a point at the horizon (see photograph with angle marked in red) but, physically parallel lines never converge. The 90° angle can be confirmed empirically by observing that the horizon line is at eye level.






^^^ The Sun and Moon are both 32 minuets (nautical miles) across at an altitude of about 3100 miles as measured directly with a sextant.

Save your propaganda trash for somebody else, you can't measure distances or sizes based on apparent size. Not only that Aristarchus fucking assumes the heliocentric Copernican model with a giant Sun millions of miles away.

Angular measurements need to be done from the horizon like with a sextant.

Let's hear about that claim the LEM was made from cardboard.

I posted an image (from NASA) showing what appears to be cardboard panels on the LEM already, they're probably the hard compressed type if that's any consolation.




...Aristarchus fucking assumes the heliocentric Copernican model with a giant Sun millions of miles away.

Angular measurements need to be done from the horizon like with a sextant.

Aristarchus MEASURED AND CALCULATED the diameter of the Sun.

He didn't fucking assume anything.

   Aristarchus assumed the heliocentric model was true, then made distance calculation based on that assumption and applied them to his apparent size measurements. The Sun's angle can be measured directly against the horizon and it's 32 nautical miles wide; 1 minute = 1 nautical mile.



...unproven theoretical force (gravity), that's based on a theory (relativity 1905) that's been falsified (Sagnac|D&P 1939) for 80 years?....

If Sagnac proves anything, it is an affirmation of general relativity, not a falsification of it.

Relativity was created after the 1887 M&M experiment proved the Earth is motionless. It was created to replace the static aether with an alternative explanation that allowed for the heliocentric/copernican model. Sagnac proved the static aether with his experiment but relativists, homosexuals and jews cried that rotating frames of reference weren't accounted for. Then in 1939 Dufour & Prunier replicated the Sagnac experiment taking rotating frames of reference into account thus falsifying relativity.
legendary
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June 21, 2019, 07:45:14 PM

...Aristarchus fucking assumes the heliocentric Copernican model with a giant Sun millions of miles away.

Angular measurements need to be done from the horizon like with a sextant.

Aristarchus MEASURED AND CALCULATED the diameter of the Sun.

He didn't fucking assume anything.
legendary
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Merit: 1373
June 21, 2019, 05:36:36 PM
^^^ The Sun and Moon are both 32 minuets (nautical miles) across at an altitude of about 3100 miles as measured directly with a sextant.

Save your propaganda trash for somebody else, you can't measure distances or sizes based on apparent size. Not only that Aristarchus fucking assumes the heliocentric Copernican model with a giant Sun millions of miles away.

Angular measurements need to be done from the horizon like with a sextant.

Absolutely. The sun and moon are both 32 minutes (nautical miles) across... AT THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH.

The center of the earth is about 4,000 miles from the surface of the earth. The point at the center of the earth makes a triangle with the 32 nautical miles at the surface of the earth, showing this triangle with sides of 4,000 miles. This means that to get the sun to look as wide as it looks, the sun must be millions of miles away. The moon might be that far away, as well, except that we have used other methods to find the distance of the moon, and therefore the diameter thereof.

You keep on using only part of the calc that you need, just so you can promote your religious cult.

Cool
legendary
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June 21, 2019, 03:55:59 PM
^^^ The Sun and Moon are both 32 minuets (nautical miles) across at an altitude of about 3100 miles as measured directly with a sextant.

Save your propaganda trash for somebody else, you can't measure distances or sizes based on apparent size. Not only that Aristarchus fucking assumes the heliocentric Copernican model with a giant Sun millions of miles away.

Angular measurements need to be done from the horizon like with a sextant.

Let's hear about that claim the LEM was made from cardboard.
legendary
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Merit: 1386
June 20, 2019, 07:30:56 PM
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Again, literally a photoshop, just a troll.

Got it. Complete liars. That has to be suspected anytime the NASA photograph ID tag is not supplied by these fraudsters. ALL THE ACTUAL PHOTOS are one click away.

That rock, that's the one they talked about and went over to. Very interesting story.
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