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legendary
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Kaminsky is among the many people virtue signaling about getting vaxed...then dies days later.
Citation needed on 'many'. One single data point, one individual, doesn't constitute an argument.
India in general is in a bad way with Covid. Poorer nations always suffer, and in this instance the rich nations have taken all the vaccines. Plus it doesn't help having that crazed supremacist Modi in charge.

Mental hospitalization needed for all those jokers^^ who can't do their own research.

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legendary
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Kaminsky is among the many people virtue signaling about getting vaxed...then dies days later.
Citation needed on 'many'. One single data point, one individual, doesn't constitute an argument.
India in general is in a bad way with Covid. Poorer nations always suffer, and in this instance the rich nations have taken all the vaccines. Plus it doesn't help having that crazed supremacist Modi in charge.
legendary
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India's newly appointed 'health ambassador' media personality dude makes a thing about getting vaxxed then dies days later.

Kaminsky is among the many people virtue signaling about getting vaxed...then dies days later.

The hardest job in the world must be to do PR for the vax-pushers about now, but it must be exciting though with a shit-load of overtime.  And it must be enough of an eye-opener to the (army of) Pub Rel personnel working this thing to keep their and their families well away from the jab.  That's a noteworthy fringe benefit to be sure.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/qExQZ65HtHU0/
  Virtue Signalers Keep Dying After Posting Their Coof Vaccine Selfies

I'm waiting for the next leaked call to professional independant 'social media influencers'.  Should look something like this:

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-  Assignment:  Post joyful selfies with 'I'm vaxxed' sticker just after vaccination(*) and gushing virtue signaling prose.
  - Pay: $2500.00 via PayPal (not to be reported to IRS.)

 * Note:  Not available to people who actually just got vaccinated.


As for Kaminsky, I actually wonder if he really is dead.  There were all these stories about him being one of the handful of guys who could 'reboot the Internet', and that mission would appear to be on the near term task list with the so-called 'great reset'.

Kaminsky seemed to be a pretty good guy (if as well a conceited prick) from what little I heard of him.  Pretty involved at some level in Bitcoin; tried to break it early on and say's he couldn't do it.  I think I saw one of his presentations at one of the conferences long ago but don't remember for sure.  I wonder who he was on this forum if he ever was.  It's a shame that he will go down as the computer security guy that tried to push 'the kill shot' on well meaning simps before he ate the big one.

sr. member
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2 days ago, I was obliged to participate in the vaccine program...
a short message entered my smartphone and I got a turn, the vaccine that was injected into my body was Sinovac. the reaction I felt at first with my left hand felt numb and felt very sleepy but after 2 hours my body began to adjust and my body returned to normal. luckily I already have kids so I have nothing to worry about and hopefully, there will be no bad effects on my body.
legendary
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I have not been able to get any shoot.
I am afraid my government is not taken the vaccination seriously enough.

I am more concerned for my parents, though
legendary
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Data to support this assertion? AFAIK preliminary studies do show reduced transmission (I've linked to this previously).


Even the pharma companies only claim %0-80% effectiveness with their vaccines, and you need multiple jabs with some of them. Natural immunity if it is allowed to develop and be used by the body, offers 100% effectiveness. This means that vaccines will allow the virus to multiply far more readily than with a healthy non-vaccinated person. I have yet to see a basic comparison between the effectiveness of vaccination and non-vaccination without introducing other factors and manipulation.

Always remember that the vaccine needs a working immune system to do its job, and it bypasses the primary protection offered by the immune system.

people getting covid in march 2020 were getting sick 3-6-9months later.. so it seems its not 100% effective to catch a virus that has a 3% kill rate.. nor is it safer to prefer the virus over the vaccine

the more the virus is allowed to spread the more mutations and thus more problems it can cause

id rather have a vaccine in my arm that may irritate my arm muscle for a few days than have the virus that will irritate my lungs and organs for longer.
you can still breath with an arm ache after all

And if the vaccine kills you, you just might have a long time to discuss with the Covid dead about which, the vaccine or Covid itself, is more painful to die with.

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hero member
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I save myself to be the last person who will need the vaccination. As we witnessed, in other parts of the world, the pandemic is getting worse and the rumors about the vaccines are a pain in the ass as well. Now the vaccine has reached our city but those people who are higher rank are those who get vaccinated first and so far there is no force happen. whenever you want to be vaccinated you just fell in the line and wait for your turn. as for me, I made my decision already.
legendary
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preliminary studies do show reduced transmission (I've linked to this previously).
And I've since linked to more up-to-date data which show quite clearly that the vaccines are effective at reducing both infection and transmission.


Even the pharma companies only claim %0-80% effectiveness with their vaccines
Citation needed. Particularly of the pharma companies who are apparently claiming "0%" effectiveness. Unless it was a shift+5 typo and that should be "50%"? In which case, the majority of vaccines are well over 50%. The Sinovac one I think is the least effective, at somewhere like 50% after two doses. But that's not representative of Pfizer, AZ, Moderna, J&J, etc.


Natural immunity if it is allowed to develop and be used by the body, offers 100% effectiveness.
Unless you die. Or you are happy to gamble with long-term health effects. Or are happy to infect others.
You're against all vaccination, but I still haven't seen a decent rebuttal for the times when I've mentioned Polio, or Smallpox, etc.
legendary
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Data to support this assertion? AFAIK preliminary studies do show reduced transmission (I've linked to this previously).


Even the pharma companies only claim %0-80% effectiveness with their vaccines, and you need multiple jabs with some of them. Natural immunity if it is allowed to develop and be used by the body, offers 100% effectiveness. This means that vaccines will allow the virus to multiply far more readily than with a healthy non-vaccinated person. I have yet to see a basic comparison between the effectiveness of vaccination and non-vaccination without introducing other factors and manipulation.

Always remember that the vaccine needs a working immune system to do its job, and it bypasses the primary protection offered by the immune system.

people getting covid in march 2020 were getting sick 3-6-9months later.. so it seems its not 100% effective to catch a virus that has a 3% kill rate.. nor is it safer to prefer the virus over the vaccine

the more the virus is allowed to spread the more mutations and thus more problems it can cause

id rather have a vaccine in my arm that may irritate my arm muscle for a few days than have the virus that will irritate my lungs and organs for longer.
you can still breath with an arm ache after all
legendary
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even using your data

At least 135,791,031 people have received at least one dose
Open VAERS 2602 DEATHS

maths is great under 0.002%

badecker seems to think that 3% death from covid is acceptable loss
badecker seems to think that 0.2% death from other flus is acceptable loss

but a vaccine that has a 0.002% rate is some how a thing badecker fears
even if that vaccine can turn a 3% down to a 0.15%.. and then add in the incidental loss of the vaccine
=0.152%

so a vaccine changing 3% to 0.152% seems to be a good thing even with incidental loss due to the vaccine side effects

so what is badeckers problem with a 0.002-0.152 death rate.. if he thinks a 3% death rate is ok

my view is badecker just fears needles or anyone smarter then him.. and is just looking for any excuse
to remain ignorant
legendary
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I feel just a little pain after the vaccination. I must take the vaccine because I have no choice, it is a must for my job.
In fact, there are too many rumors about the vaccine. Some people tell me that the vaccine isn't very effective to prevent Covid-19. We still can be contracted Covid-19 even though we have got the vaccine. Others believe that the vaccine is created for business purposes only. So, I am a bit confused about whether the rumors are fake or true. Can someone explain it to me?


It works like this. If you don't live in a Communist country, or under a Dictatorship, then you DO have choice to take the vaccine or not. You have to decide which is more dangerous... losing your job, or taking the vaccine.

There are rumors about the vaccine, and there are are things that are rather truthful about them. Search on "CDC VAERS." You will get some government and CDC sites that will give you the answers IF YOU TAKE THE TIME TO READ THEIR MUCKETY MUCK.

OR, you could go here - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56854009 - and get the info the easy way... with backups to show where my info comes from (the CDC, etc.). Now that you have prompted me, I think that I will go to the links, again, to refresh my memory about what they show.

However, I think that the OP is trying to get the simple data on people... what they were like before getting the vaccine, and what happened to them afterward. Good question. But... you can't have it both ways:
1. You didn't take the vaxx, and you are... healthy, sick, whatever?;
2. You took the vaxx and you are... healthy, sick, whatever?.
Just remember. If you take the vaxx, you will never be able to find out what would have happened to you if you didn't take it... and vice versa.

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sr. member
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I feel just a little pain after the vaccination. I must take the vaccine because I have no choice, it is a must for my job.
In fact, there are too many rumors about the vaccine. Some people tell me that the vaccine isn't very effective to prevent Covid-19. We still can be contracted Covid-19 even though we have got the vaccine. Others believe that the vaccine is created for business purposes only. So, I am a bit confused about whether the rumors are fake or true. Can someone explain it to me?
legendary
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Data to support this assertion? AFAIK preliminary studies do show reduced transmission (I've linked to this previously).


Even the pharma companies only claim %0-80% effectiveness with their vaccines, and you need multiple jabs with some of them. Natural immunity if it is allowed to develop and be used by the body, offers 100% effectiveness. This means that vaccines will allow the virus to multiply far more readily than with a healthy non-vaccinated person. I have yet to see a basic comparison between the effectiveness of vaccination and non-vaccination without introducing other factors and manipulation.

Always remember that the vaccine needs a working immune system to do its job, and it bypasses the primary protection offered by the immune system.
hero member
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The last one of my family to get the vaccine was my uncle last week. Now everybody above 50 years is vaccinated in my family. Until I am getting an appointment for the vaccine it is going to take atleast 6-8 weeks. In my family nobody except my uncle had any real side effects. My uncle got the AstraZeneca vaccine and he was in bed for 1.5 days afterwards with some fever and cold symptoms. But now he is completely fine again, short but strong reaction.
legendary
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Pedo-trannys in:  Vox?  For sure in LOTS of cases.  miningco about.com primedia, dotdash?  Likely.  Bloomberg, Forbes, sciencenews?  Likely often.  BMJ? Lots of the people who are given editorial powers unless they have some other exploitable deficiencies.

But I was talking Luciferians and their general dispositions and ideas of appropriateness; not necessarily flat-out pedo-tranny enthusiast individuals.

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Your analysis is simplistic and wrong vis-a-vis 'Ad hominem fallacy'.  My point is that National Geographic is demonstratably pressured by a certain group and class of people to shape the perceptions of another class of people in a particular way.  This makes them highly non-credible because the same people who own/fund them are the one's responsible for the plandemic scam, and you can tell by the nature of their content (phony eco garbage, pedo-tranny conditioning, etc.)  This is a perfectly legitimate observation to factor in to the credibility of their so-called reporting.

legendary
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sheeple [...] NWO luciferians [...] non-stop NWO psychological operations like 'climate change'[...] pedo-tranny filth.


What, what, what and what?

Is it the 'global climate change' stuff that you never noticed in your primary source of all things scientific (National Geographic...LOL), or is it the pedo-tranny filth?



legendary
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Did you take the vaccine? tell us what happend?


But you can't tell it when the effects really set in. Why? Because many of those effects are death, and only if you have informed a friend to post as to what happened to you, then maybe we will get to your truth.

Go to the site listed, or simply go to this link - http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/687/video/mike%20adams%20video%20vax%20people%20ticking%20time%20bombs.MP4 - to find out what will be happening to many if not most vaccinated people... and others who are close enough so they are shed on by the vaccinate zombies.


"The vaccinated are ticking time bombs. They're walking bio weapons." - The Health Ranger



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legendary
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The point is that if you present baseless conclusions like that, it's difficult to differentiate you from certain other posters.

It will be difficult to differentiate myself from other posters in terms of claims perhaps. But I think I clearly differ from them in that if I am presented with evidence that contradicts my previous beliefs, backed up in a bunch of high quality links, I am able to recognize my mistake and change my mind instead of making up that there is a conspiracy of mainstream scientists with some aliens to falsify the data, and the like.

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Thanks for the research, I owe you a merit.

Incidentally, the BMJ at the time questioned whether vaccines were effective in preventing transmission (it said that trials had not demonstrated this):

Will covid-19 vaccines save lives? Current trials aren’t designed to tell us

This was an article I cited at the time.

But I have seen that later the BMJ has published articles that do talk about transmission reduction such as this one:

Covid-19: Infections fell by 65% after first dose of AstraZeneca or Pfizer vaccine, data show.

So, yes, I am increasingly convinced that you are right.

legendary
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how do you explain why Chile has more than half of its population vaccinated and the cases do not stop growing? Because what is happening there seems to contradict what the studies you link say.
Unknown, I haven't looked into it. Geographical proximity to Brazil and hence the Brazilian variant may be a factor. Might also depend on whether the vaccine was stored and transported properly - could be a factor given the extreme geography of the country. Might also depend on any lifting of lockdowns, and people becoming infected in the several week window before the vaccine starts to really take effect in the body. As I say though, these are guesses.

Okay, I've now done a little research. The British Medical Journal have some data on it. Apparently the main vaccine used in Chile is Sinovac's CoronaVac... which appears less effective than the British AZ vaccine on a single dose basis (and the Chileans who have been vaccinated have overwhelmingly only had a single dose). Looks disturbingly like rich nations get the best vaccines, poorer nations are forced to choose from whatever is left, as you might anticipate:

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A study published by researchers at the University of Chile on 6 April, in which Cortés was not involved, found that the CoronaVac vaccine was 56.5% effective in preventing infections two weeks after a second dose but only 3% effective after a single dose

Also it is considered likely (anecdotal unless someone has seen the figures?) that the Brazil variant is a contributor:

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Infections in Chile are also likely being driven by the more transmissible P.1 variant first identified in Brazil, which is believed to be playing a role in a current surge in cases across South America.

Also there is an opinion that:

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"The country may have been too optimistic after their vaccine rollout and opened up too quickly, especially to internal travel during the summer holiday season," said Michael Touchton, from the University of Miami’s Observatory for the Containment of Covid-19 in the Americas. Chile reopened its borders in November 2020 when infections had dropped from its June peak to around 1400 cases a day. It also permitted domestic travel during the country’s December to February holiday season this year, when restaurants, shops, and holiday resorts reopened.
Careless behaviour during the vacations likely facilitated the virus’s spread, experts said.
"At the beginning of the vaccine campaign there was a message from government that ‘vaccines are on their way so the pandemic will end soon.’ Everyone stopped taking care, stopped wearing masks, and joined big crowds during the holiday season," said Claudia Cortés, an infectious diseases specialist at the University of Chile.

Quotes from the link above. Reasons appear to be as you'd expect - although I wasn't aware that the Sinovac vaccine had such low efficacy after single dose. As a second point of reference, CNN has an article with similar conclusions.
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