Topic: ★★DigiByte|极特币★★[DGB]✔ Core v6.16.5.1 - DigiShield, DigiSpeed, Segwit - page 1099. (Read 3058816 times)

Here is one commenter said when Ripple was moving up. Again, let's take only the areas where we can do this from an ethical perspective, but obtain the same growth and awareness.

We're not always going to agree on everything, but one thing I agree with 100% is the need to get out there and the need to learn from other people's success (the fact that they may have dubious intentions should not take away from their technique by any means).

What have they done that we could learn from?

1) They have made key connections with key players (from exchanges, to key partners, to 3rd party developers) and implemented their strategy accordingly.

What does one need to do to copy that?

It's called "hitting the pavement". You've got to get out there, sit down with these people in their offices, and hammer out deals. There's no other way of getting things done. Instant messaging only goes so far, and there's a point in time when you need to get face to face and make things happen. Now that DigiByte's got $250,000 worth of backing, there is no excuse that this isn't happening in full force. Of course there are things that can't be done, like giving away a bunch of price fixed coins in exchange for setting up a specialized market, but in lieu of that, we've got the same chances of striking a deal with any of the major players, banks included - in fact, with DGB's transparency and full disclosure, and its widely distributed and secure network really capable of handling the traffic a world wide payment system would require, I would say that we've got distinct advantages.

2) They have been able to get key blogs and writers on the subject to publish interviews with them and other PR enhancing articles.

What does one need to do to copy that?

The same as the first: get out there and get in front of these people and make it happen by making your product's many benefits known to them. But you've got to do it! And you've got to do it with enthusiasm and passion! And you can never stop (until you retire anyway)!

3) They have first class world wide web infrastructure (albeit with lots and lots of dead ends).

What does one need to do to copy that?

Get a webmaster on board NOW and get things rolling in that area: a website that's 24x7, an official blog, and a knowledge base, for starters, for example.


P.S. Jared, please forgive me if you've been doing these things already, but also understand that if nothing's been said with their regards, we can only scratch our heads and wonder - until we began to see others doing it, we weren't really keen on these possibilities, and it's understandable if you were also busy with other aspects of the business and even taking things more easily, but I think that recent events - from DGB's financing to huge inroads being made by the competition - serve to change the focus and give us all a sense of urgency that maybe we might not have felt so strongly before. In any event, and in spite of my "football coach" in-your-face style, please note that I am on your side, but just like that football coach at halftime, I'm asking (again in good faith but looking to shock and looking for a positive reaction): what the fuck are you doing?  

Edit: Perhaps the metaphor might be more accurate if I were to pose the question as a player to his coach (since you more rightly fill the role of coach here) and ask: what the fuck are WE doing?

I agree with YC that Jared should start doing some marketing, which we had seen nearly nothing about up to today (totally not fair to say that ). We have to really put some effort to do marketing. We should copy the strategy of those widely used, famous coins, XRP is just one example. However, I dont agree on the insider trading and price fixing, it is not ethical first off all, and not different from stealing money in the investor's pocket. But I dont see any problem copying their strategy as long as they are ethic methods. I am not against also to be a bit of centralized in terms of security, liability, etc.

Development is perfect for DGB, but if you cannot present it, then it has no value

No. I have nothing to do with them. Also, I had nothing to do with Tradehill for those who asked awhile back.

Here is my LinkedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jared-tate/90/9aa/257

Only coins or companies I have had anything to do with on the development end are DigiByte, Dogecoin & Nautiluscoin in the beginning.

Big question to ask you all

Gaw has come out with Paycoin (XPY)
Gaw have no purchesd coin-swap.net

Looking at coinswap for the first time i thought i would see what its all about

Just click on information...then about us......scroll down to Jared - Public Relations, Marketing, Market Administrator

Is this the same Jared as in the guy behind DGB.....

You're right, and while it looks "ingenious", it’s actually nothing new, and is only ingenious for frauds and scammers.

It's called price fixing.

In both cases, XPY and XRP developers have massively pre-mined their coins and, as a consequence, have thereafter controlled supply. If you control the supply, then you can fix the price. Saudi Arabia and OPEC have been doing it for over 40 years. The concept should not be new to anyone. It’s the main justification for antitrust laws (but they only go so far and have limited jurisdiction http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_fixing ). Another example of a market that was dominated by a single player who fixed price was the diamond market and that single player was De Beers.

What all the entities above have in common is a dominant control of the market and the price manipulation that their dominant control affords them. They also represent centralized, closed decision making systems, which means that end users MUST not only PAY THE PRICE, they MUST also PLACE THEIR TRUST in those controlling entities.

Simply stated, this is the antithesis of the digital currency ethic (and free societies/economies for that matter).

XPY and XRP control the number of coins going to market, and they set the price. Those who collude and receive coins for their collusion (exchanges, banks, 3rd party developers, and the like) agree to limit the number of their coins that go to market as well. Again, can you say OPEC?

In a free market economy, the more distributed the market, i.e., the more players there are, the fairer and better it is for end users (consumers) and producers alike. DGB is a good example of a widely distributed open system where price fixing is next to impossible.

The difference is between control and manipulation, and open and decentralized trading. Millions have placed their entire livelihoods at stake defending the latter (and millions more have even given their lives - you know the drill: so we all can live the lives we live today), and anyone justifying the former is only making clear to the world just what kind of moral fiber he or she is made of.


On a longer term note, what are the chances that short term, highly rigged, scams can succeed? I’m not sure, but what I can tell you is that by looking at XPY and XRP infrastructure and judging by the number of product claims that are met with by dead links, I don’t think they’ve got much of a chance of succeeding anytime soon (but remember, as long as they hold the controlling interest, they will be able to control price, and that creates an illusion of success). Furthermore, from a viability standpoint, how in the world do they ever hope to create a functional payment system when the vast majority of the system's “tokens” aren’t even available for use (due to the dominant player’s control of them)? Nevertheless, these kinds of crooks often end up stumbling across dumb luck, and they make good while their competition, although doing everything right, get the guillotine. This is a terribly frightful place for honest competition to find themselves – I would only equate it with being on trial and falsely accused for something you didn’t do, and I would suggest that the same, no holds barred, do or die, strategy needs to be employed with the firm conviction and clear understanding that there just might not be a tomorrow for you (and don’t come crying to me about life not being fair – we all know it isn’t from the start).

We just got it back online! We will pm you more about this. Thanks for the offer!

I can hook you up with a temp/backup server if need be.

We completely agree 100% we must educated the consumer. We need to be the ones to bfring trust and stability to the market place!

We are on this. We need to move the website to a new sever. We keep exceeding our memory a lotment. Thanks for letting us know!

Yes but Ripple can only be earned with computer power on Community World Grid program or purchased.

Totally different from the rest of the coins.

http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/widget/logoClick.do?page=index

For me its marketcap... Why would I buy a coin at 740million cap when there is coins worth 100k that are just as close

The crazy thing is the insiders own like 90% of Ripple and yet the price has continued to move up. Think about this for a second. Ripple creates more shares out of thin air and assigns them to their "banking partners" for virtually nothing. Now the outside public believes real life credibility and use is occurring and they start investing. The "banking partners" are now looking at a goldmine in their hands. Ingenious if you ask me. Bad for the folks investing. Ultimately, I think DGB needs to use some of the marketing techniques and relationship to its advantage.

I would not touch Ripple with a ten foot pole. No control and the insiders can dump anytime they choose and the rest are left holding the bag. Why take a chance?

YC

Trading bots are the worst thing to happen to crypto.they need to be stopped but exchanges are to greedy to do so.

There is a problem with the website again (www.digibyte.co).

I already made profit in Paycoin. So i'm good.

Unlucky, you sold it this early. Good luck.