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HR,

Thanks for sharing this. This puts a very unique perspective on things. As stated many times before, we are in this for the long haul! Smiley

Absolutely. Without a long term vision, the short termers will drag you down to the point where instead of slowly accumulating a long term investment, you sell what little you mine at a loss!

Glad you liked it!


Thank you HR it looks really promising.
Already seeing myself on the Bahama beaches with millions of Digibyte's to spend Cheesy

What date exactly Digibyte turns 1 year?
Might want to organize something to get some more and more attention?


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I'll be there to pay you a visit from time to time!

In the meantime, we've got a first birthday party to plan for January 10!

And you're right about organizing something to increase visibility. This should be our number one objective right now. DGB is back on the map and being mined like crazy! This is the time! We're back on track and still in the "early adopter" phase (that should last long enough to really take DGB mainstream).

You know, when I look around, I don't see any crypto that's even close to DigiByte’s professional and proven Dev team, long term business plan and global vision, and algo change and mining production that’s literally rocking along – nobody’s even close to being positioned to develop a wide scale user base like DigiByte is. It’s not even close if you ask me.






Start point data was based on money supply and block reward as of today,
and the projections are based on the 0.5% block reward reduction every 10,080 blocks
and the assumption that the smoothed, long term block discovery rate equals current rates.


This has actually highlighted something that I have occasionally wondered but never got around to asking. As block rewards drop lower and lower, and indeed approach zero...  who is going to bother mining? Without miners, who then verifies transactions? Perhaps at that point the distributed infrastructure exists simply to support the payment network? But... who owns it? Makes you wonder if at that point we come full circle with centralised control once again?


I took a closer look at the long term, and at current rates of production (a realistic projection), some 22 years from now, around 2036, block rewards will finally make it to 1 DGB. Who knows how much a loaf of bread will cost by then, but if we were to say for argument's sake that it costs the same, and if BTC were still only worth $500, and DGB only made it to the 1000:1 mark at 50¢, that would still translate into a whopping $1,440.00 a day, and with current diffs, would still be very profitable (hey, if a loaf of bread costs the same, then so would electricity, right?  Wink ). Being more realistic, we should throw in some sort of inflation into the mix, but it would be the same for all components, more or less, correct? The point is that as the block reward falls, the price will rise . . . unless we're talking about a dying (or already dead) coin, which DGB certainly is not. I put in a green area on that chart where I think it's highly likely to be one of the "kings of the hill", but that green area could extend forever - theoretically, block reward never gets to zero (and if and when it might be necessary, years and years from now, we could always to a switch to POW/PoS . . .). There are transaction fees to keep in mind as well.

To be sure, I think this thing's as solid as it gets, and to worry about the short term only diverts our attention away from what we should really be concentrating on, which is aggressively bringing new early adopters on board. We've got a couple of years to create a user base equaled by none, and I dare say that at this time we have ZERO competition and it's ours for the doing.


Does the current dependency on BTC prices have any impact on this chart? For example, you may be attaining double the value if you purchase DGB at 15 satoshi and BTC is at $470 and it rises to 20 satoshi and BTC is at $550.

Just curious.

YC

None what-so-ever YC. It's only about block reward and money supply, and some personal, well informed (if I don't say so myself) observations.

Price is completely independent. It could go up, network hashrate and diff could go up too, let's say to a million miners just to be gregarious, and the blocks discovered and DGB mined would be the same. What could cause a million miners to get on DGB? An incredibly rising price, of course, but that's something I don't predict in the short term by any means, and a subject for another day, which I do expect to address as soon as I have the time to properly do so. Smiley


BOTTOM LINE: DGB is back on track and ticking like a fine tuned watch.
It's time to get the word out, and people will thank you for doing so.

We're working with a long term winner that's still in the early adoption phase
(and will continue to be for enough time for more than we'd ever imagined to get on board).



Oh, and while it's cheaper to just buy DGB with fiat, why bother renting hash (or investing in hardware)? But that's for another day too.

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Isn't that where difficulty factors in? If enough people quit mining the difficulty should fall so low that eventually it would become profitable again.

Technology is going to improve also, mining should continue to get faster/cheaper.


No, not really. What I'm saying is that with everything working as it should...  difficulty doing it's thing to regulate block discovery times, and the design of DGB being such that the block rewards reduce over time...  there comes a time in the not too distant future where block reward drops to less than 1000 (around 5.5 years out) and then at around 10 years out it's approaching 100 DGB/block. Point is...  the currency is only useful if it can be used...  and it can only be used if there are miners to verify transactions...maintain the blockchain....  therefore without miners... well...  you see where I'm going with this.

It's not just a DGB question...  any long term coin that has the potential to survive...  what happens if nobody bothers to mine anymore?




I see what you mean, I've actually wondered about that too (why mine when it approaches 0). But if the currency increases in value, it might be worth it to still mine with the decreasing block rewards (taking technology into account) even when the reward drops to 100, or 10, or maybe even 1 (or less), especially if it ever reaches the $1 per DGB value. (those are big IFs though...)

Assuming 3.5 days per block payout reduction, here's approximately when DGB would drop below certain block rewards (a little over 4 years for a factor of 10):
1000 July 2018
100 December 2022
10 May 2027
1 October 2031
0.1 March 2036
0.01 July 2040

I'm sure the problem will be addressed if/when it ever gets to that point...
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Digibyte 16 sat.
Wow, i in person really don´t mind at all.

Digibyte is now giving us and the investors time to buy at some REALLY low prices.

Miners please keep autodumping youre Digibytes, Thank you.

Wait and see what update Digibyte team is coming with after the trip to japan&china,easy to get the price  x2   x3  x4.............






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So many good things going on right now.  Surprised people are selling so low.

I think this is it. It went to 90, now 60~75. This is the real value of DGB.

If only we knew.
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What do you think about this? https://hardwarewallet.com/index.html Looks very nice. I will order 2 and try out the altcoin support:


It looks interesting...  and will look forward to your review. But honestly I am more interested in a working paper wallet at this point. It's practically free, you can make as many copies as you want (to store in multiple locations) & you can split your digital wallet up into reasonable chunks to spread your eggs out into multiple baskets for ease of spend/re-import later. I already have my digital wallets backed up every which way I can including on USB sticks and on encrypted cloud storage, so I don't need another digital means of doing this. Sometimes I just want to go old-fashioned and stick a piece of paper in a safe! Not fool-proof...  but definitely unhackable by most!

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Isn't that where difficulty factors in? If enough people quit mining the difficulty should fall so low that eventually it would become profitable again.

Technology is going to improve also, mining should continue to get faster/cheaper.


No, not really. What I'm saying is that with everything working as it should...  difficulty doing it's thing to regulate block discovery times, and the design of DGB being such that the block rewards reduce over time...  there comes a time in the not too distant future where block reward drops to less than 1000 (around 5.5 years out) and then at around 10 years out it's approaching 100 DGB/block. Point is...  the currency is only useful if it can be used...  and it can only be used if there are miners to verify transactions...maintain the blockchain....  therefore without miners... well...  you see where I'm going with this.

It's not just a DGB question...  any long term coin that has the potential to survive...  what happens if nobody bothers to mine anymore?


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Phew! Every time I see the transparent borders it scares the crap out of me! Tongue

Are you aware you should be using a new miner targeted specifically for Win7 Qubit users? Hit github. New GCN-specific kernels.

Will try this out. Thx.
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Phew! Every time I see the transparent borders it scares the crap out of me! Tongue

Are you aware you should be using a new miner targeted specifically for Win7 Qubit users? Hit github. New GCN-specific kernels.
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P.S my Qubit results..look screen..
Is that Vista?
nope, no win7x64  Grin
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DigiByte? Yes!

This has actually highlighted something that I have occasionally wondered but never got around to asking. As block rewards drop lower and lower, and indeed approach zero...  who is going to bother mining? Without miners, who then verifies transactions? Perhaps at that point the distributed infrastructure exists simply to support the payment network? But... who owns it? Makes you wonder if at that point we come full circle with centralised control once again?


Isn't that where difficulty factors in? If enough people quit mining the difficulty should fall so low that eventually it would become profitable again.

Technology is going to improve also, mining should continue to get faster/cheaper.



And while I'm thinking about difficulty - has it been determined that this is the problem with why no Scrypt blocks are being found? If this is the case, maybe in the future if enhancements are made (and it's possible to do) some sort of difficulty check could be added so that if a specific algorithm doesn't have a block found after say, 100 blocks (about an hour), that the difficulty of that specific algorithm could be adjusted down by a small percentage every 100 blocks until one is found?
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P.S my Qubit results..look screen..
Is that Vista?
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I using both algos at the moment. Grin
Mining DGB with minerd on CPU @ Serverfarm and with grs-sgminer @ GPU Mining Rig. Profit till now, ok.
P.S my Qubit results..look screen... CPU is a dellided overclocked Core I7 4770K@ 4,5 GHz and GPU is a Radeon R9 290 OC TriXXX @ 1107,1440
On Server CPUs you will get around 600 Khash/s depends how much Cores....




What do you think about this? https://hardwarewallet.com/index.html Looks very nice. I will order 2 and try out the altcoin support:

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Bitcoin based crypto currencies are supported by default - just specify your target mainnet or testnet version when setting up HW-1, and addresses will be generated and checked against those domains.
Different form factors and graphical personalizations are available - choose the one that suits you best



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I used 4 identical rigs on 4 different pools over the period of 24 hrs. 2 Qubit pools and 2 Groestl pools. The 2 Qubit pools only marginally fared better than the Groestl pool by about 5000-10000 DGB. Which is well within the variation.  On any other given day the results may have been flipped depending on network hashrate and current difficulty.  Close enough to be content with either decision.
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Qubit is paying about the same with Groestl right now following my previous days numbers on various pools. Don't think that switching is going to have any major effect on your profits.

Are you sure?
Groestl diff is a way higher than qubit now and the total hashrates too (949 vs. 37)
Hashrates for the specific hardware are similar.
Could you provide some data for a comparison?

EDIT:
according to http://myriad.theblockexplorer.com/help.php
groesl hashrate for 7950 is 11.05 Mh/s
qubit hashrate is 4,6 Mh/s
maybe not very similar, it is actually 2,4:1, but the diff seems to be 25:1
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Qubit is paying about the same with Groestl right now following my previous days numbers on various pools. Don't think that switching is going to have any major effect on your profits. I think the only difference is in power consumption with Qubit. If you in an area where you pay more for power then its probably marginally worth it.
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Just started mining with Qubit this morning with my 7850 at 2198M. The card is OC'd a little and I haven't messed with the Qubit  default settings

I don't have 7850 but it seems your settings are suboptimal. I can get 2,1 MH/s with 7790.
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Just started mining with Qubit this morning with my 7850 at 2198M. The card is OC'd a little and I haven't messed with the Qubit  default settings
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Try mining with CPU. Don't expect too much, but qubit is still cpu-friendly. Compile the miner with "-march=native" to get better results.
What miner you recommend? I am currently just soloing with digibyted...

For CPU I could recommend https://github.com/ig0tik3d/QubitCoin-cpuminer-v.1.1
I can't recommend mining solo with CPU! You better move with your CPU mining to dgb-qubit.theblocksfactory.com

Thanks, I'll compile now and get it going.

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Try mining with CPU. Don't expect too much, but qubit is still cpu-friendly. Compile the miner with "-march=native" to get better results.
What miner you recommend? I am currently just soloing with digibyted...

For CPU I could recommend https://github.com/ig0tik3d/QubitCoin-cpuminer-v.1.1
I can't recommend mining solo with CPU! You better move with your CPU mining to dgb-qubit.theblocksfactory.com
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Try mining with CPU. Don't expect too much, but qubit is still cpu-friendly. Compile the miner with "-march=native" to get better results.

What miner you recommend? I am currently just soloing with digibyted...

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