Discussion about 10,000BTC Bet (Official) - page 3.

Rassah

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Quote from: DOH! on September 13, 2012, 09:31:39 PM

The fuck are the cops gonna do about it?

criminal charges =/= cops. There are other entities, like FBI, SEC, etc. Organizations specifically designed to deal with internet and financial crimes. As for what they do, once they quietly collect enough information on you, they bust down your door and haul you away.

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Quote from: coinft on September 13, 2012, 11:29:34 AM

Quote from: DonShrents on September 13, 2012, 12:41:25 AM

Criminal Charges should be a last resort, as that leaves the least chance of getting any money back.

Civil Cases should be tried first and if all else fails and it's clear that we will not see anything back, then we feed him to the Government Agencies.

This won't help. No matter what *you* promise, someone else *will* instigate criminal charges later because it's easy to do. Hence the promise of letting him off easy if he pays back does not work.

A criminal case on the other hand may strengthen it because it basically is free investigation (and maybe intimidation).

Avoiding a criminal case now is a delaying tactic. Is that your agenda?

The fuck are the cops gonna do about it?

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Quote from: DonShrents on September 13, 2012, 12:41:25 AM

Criminal Charges should be a last resort, as that leaves the least chance of getting any money back.

Civil Cases should be tried first and if all else fails and it's clear that we will not see anything back, then we feed him to the Government Agencies.

This won't help. No matter what *you* promise, someone else *will* instigate criminal charges later because it's easy to do. Hence the promise of letting him off easy if he pays back does not work.

A criminal case on the other hand may strengthen it because it basically is free investigation (and maybe intimidation).

Avoiding a criminal case now is a delaying tactic. Is that your agenda?

Raoul Duke

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Those spaces before the question marks... Roll Eyes

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Quote from: myrkul on September 13, 2012, 12:51:49 AM

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Quote from: myrkul on September 13, 2012, 12:47:25 AM

Quote from: DonShrents on September 13, 2012, 12:45:11 AM

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All the info one needs to ID the poster. Roll Eyes

I kinda doubt it is Pirate but a troll pretending to be one. I would bet it is Matthew before I would bet it is pirate.

Hint: It's not Pirate.

I don't know who he is, but Gage/Bruno does and says that we can trust him.

~~Can you link this?~~

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Quote from: myrkul on September 13, 2012, 12:47:25 AM

Quote from: DonShrents on September 13, 2012, 12:45:11 AM

~DonShrents

All the info one needs to ID the poster. Roll Eyes

I kinda doubt it is Pirate but a troll pretending to be one. I would bet it is Matthew before I would bet it is pirate.

Yes. I am a troll. A troll who is leading the charge against Trendon Shavers with new information and actual contact to his family.

If you think that I am against you (hint: I AM ON YOUR SIDE) then you don't belong in this fight, as your Forum Skills are lacking to a degree that puts you below newb status.

Perhaps you should pay closer attention and look at my recent posts, then look at who is backing me up and already knows my true identity.

~DonShrents

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Quote from: myrkul on September 13, 2012, 12:47:25 AM

Quote from: DonShrents on September 13, 2012, 12:45:11 AM

~DonShrents

All the info one needs to ID the poster. Roll Eyes

I kinda doubt it is Pirate but a troll pretending to be one. I would bet it is Matthew before I would bet it is pirate.

Hint: It's not Pirate.

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Quote from: DonShrents on September 13, 2012, 12:45:11 AM

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All the info one needs to ID the poster. Roll Eyes

DonShrents

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Obviously I am a Sock Puppet account, but seeing that you (Goat) are unable to keep PMs private, I can not divulge my real identity to you in fear of having my main account revealed.

Sorry.

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Quote from: DonShrents on September 13, 2012, 12:41:25 AM

Criminal Charges should be a last resort, as that leaves the least chance of getting any money back.

Civil Cases should be tried first and if all else fails and it's clear that we will not see anything back, then we feed him to the Government Agencies.

Sadly my lawyer thinks criminal charges will help a civil case.

BTW who are you?

I am DonShrents. Who are you ?

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Criminal Charges should be a last resort, as that leaves the least chance of getting any money back.

Civil Cases should be tried first and if all else fails and it's clear that we will not see anything back, then we feed him to the Government Agencies.

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Quote from: JoelKatz on September 12, 2012, 09:43:37 PM

Quote from: Rassah on September 12, 2012, 12:25:00 PM

Hell no. Just suggesting he may be even more fucked than his investors. Or that it's possible that even if he is tracked down, there may not be any money there to recover. Not that he shouldn't be tracked down, of course.

From what I've seen and heard, I believe he got away with somewhere between $1 million and $1.5 million. But I suppose it could be anywhere between zero and $5 million. There's only one way to find out and that's to track him down.

short of beating it out of him theres not much anyone can do if he refuses to answer any questions Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Rassah on September 12, 2012, 12:25:00 PM

Hell no. Just suggesting he may be even more fucked than his investors. Or that it's possible that even if he is tracked down, there may not be any money there to recover. Not that he shouldn't be tracked down, of course.

From what I've seen and heard, I believe he got away with somewhere between $1 million and $1.5 million. But I suppose it could be anywhere between zero and $5 million. There's only one way to find out and that's to track him down.

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Quote from: CoinCidental on September 11, 2012, 11:23:47 PM

Quote from: Rassah on September 11, 2012, 09:53:46 AM

Quote from: CoinCidental on September 11, 2012, 03:22:24 AM

pretty hilarious people starting looking for pirates address when he already had about $5.5 million dollars worth of untraceable money and no intention of giving any of it back

*allegedly * He could have lost everyone's money in someone else's ponzi scheme as well, and now may be as broke as his "investors"

are you trying to make a defence argument for pirate ?

Hell no. Just suggesting he may be even more fucked than his investors. Or that it's possible that even if he is tracked down, there may not be any money there to recover. Not that he shouldn't be tracked down, of course.

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Quote from: Rassah on September 11, 2012, 01:19:01 AM

What's really f'in ironic was that people were saying that Bitcoin isn't susceptible to fractional reserve or that sort of inflation, and here we have a situation where a bunch of HIYPs apparently invested in each other and possibly created a whole lot of Bitcoin wealth that doesn't actually exist. Guess if there are bubles to be had, Bitcoin WILL find them (though the most likely result of this is fake wealth disappearing, Bitcoin supply contracting, and price going up.... though an even more likely outcome is no effect on price, because "oh, another weird scam or theft? *yawn*")

I think the difference with Bitcoin is you can opt out of all that Fractional Reserve nonsense. Try opting out of FRNs. Even if you take your money out of a bank the bank's actions change money supply and thus affect the value of the FRN you hold. There is no "out".

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Quote from: Rassah on September 11, 2012, 09:53:46 AM

Quote from: CoinCidental on September 11, 2012, 03:22:24 AM

pretty hilarious people starting looking for pirates address when he already had about $5.5 million dollars worth of untraceable money and no intention of giving any of it back

*allegedly * He could have lost everyone's money in someone else's ponzi scheme as well, and now may be as broke as his "investors"

are you trying to make a defence argument for pirate ?

would you still be ok if he took investors bitcoins to a casino and put them on red or black ? 100 % interest rates possible per spin **past performace in not a guaranteed indicator of future returns** Cheesy

i only see 2 scenarios

he either scammed the money personally or let it be scammed through his negligence

neither of which is a valid defence IMO and he is still responsible for his actions along with others who herded people into his ponzi to make a %

Rassah

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Quote from: CoinCidental on September 11, 2012, 03:22:24 AM

pretty hilarious people starting looking for pirates address when he already had about $5.5 million dollars worth of untraceable money and no intention of giving any of it back

*allegedly * He could have lost everyone's money in someone else's ponzi scheme as well, and now may be as broke as his "investors"

CoinCidental

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Quote from: Vladimir on September 10, 2012, 11:57:59 PM

Quote from: gene on September 10, 2012, 11:56:59 PM

I agree, and I include all the other shills and forum operators who facilitated this mess.

yes!

+ starfish who rated these ponzis and scams as "AAA" safe investments which have now folded and investors may have to wait 3 years to get their money back ...... Sad

all non -transparent operations should be disected at this stage because its wide open to abuse and this magic art of running anonymous banks should be stopped

if your going to open a bank you should be doxxed from the start BEFORE you take the first deposit ,insurances should be in place for when you get "hacked "

pretty hilarious people starting looking for pirates address when he already had about $5.5 million dollars worth of untraceable money and no intention of giving any of it back

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People used their community standing to make the scam more legitimate.

Who would have really invested if a bunch of people with under 10 posts showed up pimping it out?

Therefore their community standing should suffer and they shouldnt be trusted to control large amounts of bitcoins again.

Can we get a tag that says "BAD JUDGEMENT"

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