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Topic: Discussion about 10,000BTC Bet (Official) - page 43. (Read 104454 times)

newbie
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September 06, 2012, 02:16:31 PM
What? I like big ponies.

LOL Bronyes!
legendary
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September 06, 2012, 02:08:19 PM
Mathew I know you regard any serious questions from me as trolling, but are you implying that pirate hasn't paid everyone back because Chaang Noi threw a spanner in the works to win his bet against you?

No. I'm implying that Chaang Noi is actively working -against- pirate paying out, throwing as many spanners, and attempting to convince others to throw -their- spanners in as well, in an attempt to sabotage my bet. Yes. I have witnesses-- the people he tried to convince to do his dirty bidding. Chaang Noi is not the reason why Pirate is not paying back -anyone-, he's the reason why pirate -can't- pay back -everyone-. I'll repeat-- He's actively working against Pirate at every turn so that I will lose my bet. I wonder how the community thinks about that as a "fair" bet.

Matthew you need a cereal box education.  As in read the box in the morning as you eat your bowl of candy-coated wheat.  You see that promotion?  See the part where it says "Not open to P&G employees or its affiliates"?  Maybe you should consider WHY that might be printed there...

When you agreed to a non-trivial bet against people who are to some degree affiliated with BST you essentially guaranteed that they would be working towards a payout on the 10th.

Your post.  It needs fixing.
legendary
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September 06, 2012, 02:04:49 PM
Mathew I know you regard any serious questions from me as trolling, but are you implying that pirate hasn't paid everyone back because Chaang Noi threw a spanner in the works to win his bet against you?

No. I'm implying that Chaang Noi is actively working -against- pirate paying out, throwing as many spanners, and attempting to convince others to throw -their- spanners in as well, in an attempt to sabotage my bet. Yes. I have witnesses-- the people he tried to convince to do his dirty bidding. Chaang Noi is not the reason why Pirate is not paying back -anyone-, he's the reason why pirate -can't- pay back -everyone-. I'll repeat-- He's actively working against Pirate at every turn so that I will lose my bet. I wonder how the community thinks about that as a "fair" bet.

Matthew you need a cereal box education.  As in read the box in the morning as you eat your bowl of candy-coated wheat.  You see that promotion?  See the part where it says "Not open to P&G employees or its affiliates"?  Maybe you should consider WHY that might be printed there...

When you agreed to a non-trivial bet against people who are to some degree affiliated with BST you essentially guaranteed that they would be working towards a payout on the 10th.
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September 06, 2012, 01:45:09 PM
Not very PC mate. Also Mathew "faggot" Huh?!!!! it's 2012 mate you can't say things like that!

I missed this comment earlier. Sir, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that word. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_(unit)
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September 06, 2012, 01:39:41 PM
I feel like this community would speculate why an ant walks the way he walks if you were bored enough.

Community is currently speculating how this ant which had all its legs torn off, is going to walk in 3 days time to win the bet.

i just got a creepy omen feeling, so i'd like to say:

in case mr. wright's peculiar behaviour isn't ego-mania but is bipolar-mania; if you do lose the bet and your mood crashes

please, don't do anything.. drastic

His death has already been broadcast all over Korean television. How much more drastic can you get?

+1
edd
donator
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September 06, 2012, 01:38:59 PM
I feel like this community would speculate why an ant walks the way he walks if you were bored enough.

Community is currently speculating how this ant which had all its legs torn off, is going to walk in 3 days time to win the bet.

i just got a creepy omen feeling, so i'd like to say:

in case mr. wright's peculiar behaviour isn't ego-mania but is bipolar-mania; if you do lose the bet and your mood crashes

please, don't do anything.. drastic

His death has already been broadcast all over Korean television. How much more drastic can you get?
hero member
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September 06, 2012, 01:38:54 PM
He's actively working against Pirate at every turn so that I will lose my bet. I wonder how the community thinks about that as a "fair" bet.

Completely fair. If for some reason I cant imagine, Pirate's ability to pay back his loans depended on Goat, then I would have tenfolded my bet. However, if its only stalling and pirate pays back everything he owes plus interest later, let me be on record as saying I will refund you my wager as if you had won.
sr. member
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September 06, 2012, 01:38:00 PM
I think the irony is that this bet, which was initially started in an attempt to teach those who were overly vocal and eager to accuse something of being a scam, will end up showing that when a large group of people with possible knowledge of a topic warn you about it, you REALLY should listen, lest you lose out twice, first on being involved with the thing they warned you about, and second with trying to show you know better that those with actual knowledge/experience.




Ahem...




First, your scenario can't avoid a technical default, since he already *has* technically defaulted.
Agreed. Pirate actually defaulted on Monday.

But in the terms of his bet with Vandroiy he has two weeks grace. And in the terms of Matthew's bet he has three weeks grace.


I can't wait to see how the "terms" of those bets will morph.

Last I heard assets with pirate exposure were still selling for 80% of face value. Anyone have an update?

24h average on the GLBSE is at ~50%.

I am shocked it is that high.

It can't go lower than that while Matthew is offering even odds on a default. Assuming an investor has the cash available and trusts Matthew, he can get 50% of his "investment" back by simply making a bet with Matthew for 50% of his exposure.

Big assumption there. Could just as likely lose everything.

Either matthew is unwell (if he is crazy, then we shouldn't be taking advantage of him) or he has some special knowledge. Or he never intended to pay out (as suggested by his vague terms).

In any case, this wager has failed the smell test since day 0.
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September 06, 2012, 01:35:39 PM
I feel like this community would speculate why an ant walks the way he walks if you were bored enough.

Community is currently speculating how this ant which had all its legs torn off, is going to walk in 3 days time to win the bet.

i just got a creepy omen feeling, so i'd like to say:

in case mr. wright's peculiar behaviour isn't ego-mania but is bipolar-mania; if you do lose the bet and your mood crashes

please, don't do anything.. drastic
hero member
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September 06, 2012, 01:33:51 PM
I think the irony is that this bet, which was initially started in an attempt to teach those who were overly vocal and eager to accuse something of being a scam, will end up showing that when a large group of people with possible knowledge of a topic warn you about it, you REALLY should listen, lest you lose out twice, first on being involved with the thing they warned you about, and second with trying to show you know better that those with actual knowledge/experience.

And regarding Chaang, if Pirate has the money to pay back -everyone-, then what can Chaang Noi possibly do to prevent that?


+1

You took the words out of my mouth...
full member
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September 06, 2012, 01:21:36 PM
I feel like this community would speculate why an ant walks the way he walks if you were bored enough.

Community is currently speculating how this ant which had all its legs torn off, is going to walk in 3 days time to win the bet.
full member
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September 06, 2012, 12:36:58 PM
Mathew I know you regard any serious questions from me as trolling, but are you implying that pirate hasn't paid everyone back because Chaang Noi threw a spanner in the works to win his bet against you?

No. I'm implying that Chaang Noi is actively working -against- pirate paying out, throwing as many spanners, and attempting to convince others to throw -their- spanners in as well, in an attempt to sabotage my bet. Yes. I have witnesses-- the people he tried to convince to do his dirty bidding. Chaang Noi is not the reason why Pirate is not paying back -anyone-, he's the reason why pirate -can't- pay back -everyone-. I'll repeat-- He's actively working against Pirate at every turn so that I will lose my bet. I wonder how the community thinks about that as a "fair" bet.

Don't worry though, it would take Pirate paying back everyone -except- Chaang Noi shills for me to consider that as an excuse to call the bet a farce.

not that I know goat, but I just have this feeling about him delaying things, its pretty weird what he keeps doing such things...never really trustable, looks at any oppurtunity to capitalize on without consideration for others...kind of weird attitudes...............
legendary
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September 06, 2012, 12:33:52 PM
I think the irony is that this bet, which was initially started in an attempt to teach those who were overly vocal and eager to accuse something of being a scam, will end up showing that when a large group of people with possible knowledge of a topic warn you about it, you REALLY should listen, lest you lose out twice, first on being involved with the thing they warned you about, and second with trying to show you know better that those with actual knowledge/experience.

And regarding Chaang, if Pirate has the money to pay back -everyone-, then what can Chaang Noi possibly do to prevent that?
hero member
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September 06, 2012, 12:30:35 PM
OK fair enough that was an edit while I was posting. Well Mathew if you pay good on you for good sportsmanship!
sr. member
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September 06, 2012, 12:30:19 PM
What? I like big ponies.
legendary
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Si vis pacem, para bellum
September 06, 2012, 12:29:16 PM
You didn't answer my question. Prove I'm a troll or accept my bet.

your avatar is proof enough
sr. member
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September 06, 2012, 12:27:18 PM
You didn't answer my question. Prove I'm a troll or accept my bet. And why wouldn't you want to take a troll's bitcoins anyway, it seems like they're the most deserving of having their money taken? Could it be you secretly know you're going to lose?
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September 06, 2012, 12:23:44 PM
Mathew I know you regard any serious questions from me as trolling, but are you implying that pirate hasn't paid everyone back because Chaang Noi threw a spanner in the works to win his bet against you?

No. I'm implying that Chaang Noi is actively working -against- pirate paying out, throwing as many spanners, and attempting to convince others to throw -their- spanners in as well, in an attempt to sabotage my bet. Yes. I have witnesses-- the people he tried to convince to do his dirty bidding. Chaang Noi is not the reason why Pirate is not paying back -anyone-, he's the reason why pirate -can't- pay back -everyone-. I'll repeat-- He's actively working against Pirate at every turn so that I will lose my bet. I wonder how the community thinks about that as a "fair" bet.

I think most people will just think you're delusional and/or looking for desperate excuses not to pay

No. Just trolls.

Don't worry though, it would take Pirate paying back everyone -except- Chaang Noi shills for me to consider that as an excuse to call the bet a farce.
hero member
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September 06, 2012, 12:22:31 PM
Mathew I know you regard any serious questions from me as trolling, but are you implying that pirate hasn't paid everyone back because Chaang Noi threw a spanner in the works to win his bet against you?

No. I'm implying that Chaang Noi is actively working -against- pirate paying out, throwing as many spanners, and attempting to convince others to throw -their- spanners in as well, in an attempt to sabotage my bet. Yes. I have witnesses-- the people he tried to convince to do his dirty bidding. Chaang Noi is not the reason why Pirate is not paying back -anyone-, he's the reason why pirate -can't- pay back -everyone-. I'll repeat-- He's actively working against Pirate at every turn so that I will lose my bet. I wonder how the community thinks about that as a "fair" bet.

I think most people will just think you're delusional and/or looking for desperate excuses not to pay
sr. member
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September 06, 2012, 12:21:10 PM
Matthew, tell me how I'm a troll when you're the one with the unstable and histrionic post history? Meanwhile, my post history has been much better outside the pony thread (ponifans have ruined the show for me and I've been posting badly there as a response), I give helpful answers to bitcoiners' questions I'm capable of answering.
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