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It's already the end of game 2 of the finals and we're getting hyped!

I thought Team Liquid will have 2-0 already but OG wants to be champion also so they manage to get game 2. It's also the first time in TI of DOTA2 that it will have two times champion because Team Liquid was a TI7 champion while OG was the defending champion (TI8 champion) and now, TI9, we will have it.

It's good to watch TI now but there's no crowd, I hope the venue of The international goes to the Philippines so we can hype the event even there's no Filipino team in the finals.

I wanted to bet but there's no money left for me, I'll just support TL to become the TI9 champion. The miracle is in there.
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This time Liquid has a strong midlaner on w33haa which makes their play more different than before. So I guess they have a higher chance of winning this ti9 against a much composed OG team. It would be a hell of a game where both team are champions of the last two TI's. My bet would go to team Liquid in 5 games.

My bet lost, Liquid now is facing OG at the Grand Finals.

Liquid won the first game, amazing game, so amazing, expected of what should game be in the Grand Finals of TI. I do not hate Liquid, it is just that I bet on the Chinese team which really disappointed me. My bet is on OG, not just because they are the favorite but because they are a solid team ever since they won TI8. They are consistent at what they are doing and I expect them to be the first team to win TI twice.
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OG is now waiting for the grand finals while they've sent PSG.LGD to the lower bracket.

ATM, Team Secret vs Team Liquid.

I want to see Liquid up against OG in the finals. Then I guess PSG-LGD will not be an easy opponent for Liquid if they will against team secret. It's very exciting to see every match specially this final four teams that are considered to be the best this ti9.
Team Liquid secured the top 3 spot and will be fighting against PSG.LGD tomorrow. While Team Secret, takes the 4th place and gets out of the tournament.

Team Liquid has an amazing run on the lower bracket without any loss.

That is the thing. A lot of Liquid supporters this TI was disappointed at the matches they had before the group stage, but when the bracket went up, Liquid did not lose in the lower bracket statong the fact that they are just laying down a plan. PSGLGD did great, but I think this will be their last match. We will be seeing a TI Finals without a chinese team this year.
Yeah their matches on the group stage aren't really interesting and it's like, "Is this really Team Liquid?" but now they have changed a lot.

There's a belief that they really thrown themselves to the lower bracket but I don't think they've done that intentionally.

Maybr it is a ploy of Kuroky, he's IQ is really over the top when it comes to Dota.

Picks that is usually unpredictable and yet won a lot of their matches made Liquid conquer the lower bracket. I am amazed by that, that IO counter pick with their match against Secret really made it clear, Liquid is aiming to win again TI, this time without Matumba, and they will lose against PSGLGD

This time Liquid has a strong midlaner on w33haa which makes their play more different than before. So I guess they have a higher chance of winning this ti9 against a much composed OG team. It would be a hell of a game where both team are champions of the last two TI's. My bet would go to team Liquid in 5 games.
legendary
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OG is now waiting for the grand finals while they've sent PSG.LGD to the lower bracket.

ATM, Team Secret vs Team Liquid.

I want to see Liquid up against OG in the finals. Then I guess PSG-LGD will not be an easy opponent for Liquid if they will against team secret. It's very exciting to see every match specially this final four teams that are considered to be the best this ti9.
Team Liquid secured the top 3 spot and will be fighting against PSG.LGD tomorrow. While Team Secret, takes the 4th place and gets out of the tournament.

Team Liquid has an amazing run on the lower bracket without any loss.

That is the thing. A lot of Liquid supporters this TI was disappointed at the matches they had before the group stage, but when the bracket went up, Liquid did not lose in the lower bracket statong the fact that they are just laying down a plan. PSGLGD did great, but I think this will be their last match. We will be seeing a TI Finals without a chinese team this year.
Yeah their matches on the group stage aren't really interesting and it's like, "Is this really Team Liquid?" but now they have changed a lot.

There's a belief that they really thrown themselves to the lower bracket but I don't think they've done that intentionally.

Maybr it is a ploy of Kuroky, he's IQ is really over the top when it comes to Dota.

Picks that is usually unpredictable and yet won a lot of their matches made Liquid conquer the lower bracket. I am amazed by that, that IO counter pick with their match against Secret really made it clear, Liquid is aiming to win again TI, this time without Matumba, and they will lose against PSGLGD

I am on the other side of the fence here. I am looking at a TI9 Championship between OG and Team Liquid. It is interesting to take note that Team Liquid has never lost a single game under the lower bracket! From the point they were matched with Fnatic, a fellow lower bracket team, up to their sweeping win against Team Secret, they have been very consistent. They have won every single game against any team that the upper bracket has thrown them. They are eliminating every single upper bracket team, and this is going to continue until the finals! We'll see!  Smiley
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OG is now waiting for the grand finals while they've sent PSG.LGD to the lower bracket.

ATM, Team Secret vs Team Liquid.

I want to see Liquid up against OG in the finals. Then I guess PSG-LGD will not be an easy opponent for Liquid if they will against team secret. It's very exciting to see every match specially this final four teams that are considered to be the best this ti9.
Team Liquid secured the top 3 spot and will be fighting against PSG.LGD tomorrow. While Team Secret, takes the 4th place and gets out of the tournament.

Team Liquid has an amazing run on the lower bracket without any loss.

That is the thing. A lot of Liquid supporters this TI was disappointed at the matches they had before the group stage, but when the bracket went up, Liquid did not lose in the lower bracket statong the fact that they are just laying down a plan. PSGLGD did great, but I think this will be their last match. We will be seeing a TI Finals without a chinese team this year.
Yeah their matches on the group stage aren't really interesting and it's like, "Is this really Team Liquid?" but now they have changed a lot.

There's a belief that they really thrown themselves to the lower bracket but I don't think they've done that intentionally.

Maybr it is a ploy of Kuroky, he's IQ is really over the top when it comes to Dota.

Picks that is usually unpredictable and yet won a lot of their matches made Liquid conquer the lower bracket. I am amazed by that, that IO counter pick with their match against Secret really made it clear, Liquid is aiming to win again TI, this time without Matumba, and they will lose against PSGLGD
legendary
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All right, nice win by OG against LGD and Secret against VG.


Let's do it first for the first game of the day, PSG.LGD vs Team Liquid.
This match is really difficult, but I'm going for Team Liquid because the momentum is favouring them. Especially, all of the teams who dropped from the Upper Bracket are already eliminated in the tournament, right? So, probably the next is PSG.LGD, I don't want to repeat The International 2019, which OG vs LGD is fighting for the aegis.

Team Liquid has shown how they become dominate especially on drafting, their cores have really large hero pool, especially w33ha and Miracle which anyone of them can go mid lane or carry. Remember on EG vs Team Liquid, their drafts are an incredible beast, they dominate EG and Team Secret too which has unpredictable drafts, they take down Team Secret.

Either w33ha or Miracle will be taken down, but one of them will carry the game, like if one of them is really got dominated by enemy, and one of them also will carry the game, like their will be one who will sacrifice just to create a space on another core.
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OG is now waiting for the grand finals while they've sent PSG.LGD to the lower bracket.

ATM, Team Secret vs Team Liquid.

I want to see Liquid up against OG in the finals. Then I guess PSG-LGD will not be an easy opponent for Liquid if they will against team secret. It's very exciting to see every match specially this final four teams that are considered to be the best this ti9.
Team Liquid secured the top 3 spot and will be fighting against PSG.LGD tomorrow. While Team Secret, takes the 4th place and gets out of the tournament.

Team Liquid has an amazing run on the lower bracket without any loss.

That is the thing. A lot of Liquid supporters this TI was disappointed at the matches they had before the group stage, but when the bracket went up, Liquid did not lose in the lower bracket statong the fact that they are just laying down a plan. PSGLGD did great, but I think this will be their last match. We will be seeing a TI Finals without a chinese team this year.
Yeah their matches on the group stage aren't really interesting and it's like, "Is this really Team Liquid?" but now they have changed a lot.

There's a belief that they really thrown themselves to the lower bracket but I don't think they've done that intentionally.
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OG is now waiting for the grand finals while they've sent PSG.LGD to the lower bracket.

ATM, Team Secret vs Team Liquid.

I want to see Liquid up against OG in the finals. Then I guess PSG-LGD will not be an easy opponent for Liquid if they will against team secret. It's very exciting to see every match specially this final four teams that are considered to be the best this ti9.
Team Liquid secured the top 3 spot and will be fighting against PSG.LGD tomorrow. While Team Secret, takes the 4th place and gets out of the tournament.

Team Liquid has an amazing run on the lower bracket without any loss.
Just like on previous years on TI's where they do really go on lower bracket strategy.We dont know if its intentional tactic or not.
OG is waiting for the winner of Liquid and LGD match up for the grand finals and this fight would really be intense.
Can Liquid drafting can beat out LGD's?
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OG is now waiting for the grand finals while they've sent PSG.LGD to the lower bracket.

ATM, Team Secret vs Team Liquid.

I want to see Liquid up against OG in the finals. Then I guess PSG-LGD will not be an easy opponent for Liquid if they will against team secret. It's very exciting to see every match specially this final four teams that are considered to be the best this ti9.
Team Liquid secured the top 3 spot and will be fighting against PSG.LGD tomorrow. While Team Secret, takes the 4th place and gets out of the tournament.

Team Liquid has an amazing run on the lower bracket without any loss.

That is the thing. A lot of Liquid supporters this TI was disappointed at the matches they had before the group stage, but when the bracket went up, Liquid did not lose in the lower bracket statong the fact that they are just laying down a plan. PSGLGD did great, but I think this will be their last match. We will be seeing a TI Finals without a chinese team this year.

I think this is the opposite of what you've said.

Liquid did great in the lower bracket but I don't think they will be able to beat Psg Lgd tomorrow since there are only a few mistakes this team is making, Liquid on the others side got away from the mistakes they had in their recent games. If you will be seeing it, Miracle usually overextends in clashes, which make him usually a bait and leaving it all on w33 and his teammate's shoulders. If that will be countered by PSG which is flawless on their recent games, I think LGD will have a rematch and I think that will happen. LGD might be the champion, I'm telling you, they will win this TI.
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OG is now waiting for the grand finals while they've sent PSG.LGD to the lower bracket.

ATM, Team Secret vs Team Liquid.

I want to see Liquid up against OG in the finals. Then I guess PSG-LGD will not be an easy opponent for Liquid if they will against team secret. It's very exciting to see every match specially this final four teams that are considered to be the best this ti9.
Team Liquid secured the top 3 spot and will be fighting against PSG.LGD tomorrow. While Team Secret, takes the 4th place and gets out of the tournament.

Team Liquid has an amazing run on the lower bracket without any loss.

That is the thing. A lot of Liquid supporters this TI was disappointed at the matches they had before the group stage, but when the bracket went up, Liquid did not lose in the lower bracket statong the fact that they are just laying down a plan. PSGLGD did great, but I think this will be their last match. We will be seeing a TI Finals without a chinese team this year.
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OG is now waiting for the grand finals while they've sent PSG.LGD to the lower bracket.

ATM, Team Secret vs Team Liquid.

I want to see Liquid up against OG in the finals. Then I guess PSG-LGD will not be an easy opponent for Liquid if they will against team secret. It's very exciting to see every match specially this final four teams that are considered to be the best this ti9.
Team Liquid secured the top 3 spot and will be fighting against PSG.LGD tomorrow. While Team Secret, takes the 4th place and gets out of the tournament.

Team Liquid has an amazing run on the lower bracket without any loss.
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OG is now waiting for the grand finals while they've sent PSG.LGD to the lower bracket.

ATM, Team Secret vs Team Liquid.

I want to see Liquid up against OG in the finals. Then I guess PSG-LGD will not be an easy opponent for Liquid if they will against team secret. It's very exciting to see every match specially this final four teams that are considered to be the best this ti9.
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OG is now waiting for the grand finals while they've sent PSG.LGD to the lower bracket.

ATM, Team Secret vs Team Liquid.
legendary
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(I didn't expected that the odds is favor on LGD,lol)
I'm all in to OG! TI8 champions. Topson is really incredible, a very aggressive mid laner and have the ability to be the game changer on their every games. But the only problem is how will they will manage the drafting of LGD. LGD has large hero pool, unpredictable drafts. But still, looking forward to OG.


Don't get me wrong, OG will be playing against the home crowds favorite and their rival from ti8. So it is normal to see the odds are favoring PSG-LGD but still OG has a chance to duplicate their ti8 run. On the other hand, Liquid keeps on climbing up kicking out whoever the opponents they face coming from the upper bracket and I guess they are the dark knights of this ti9.

And this is the only reason why the odds between OG and PSG are not equal. I mean, the chinese bettors. PSG with 1.58 vs. OG's 2.24 is rather hard to explain considering how OG has shown to the entire TI9 audience all throughout their matches how they cannot lose to anyone. I'm using the odds at Sportsbet here. My bet will go to OG for this match even if they appear underdog, at least according to the odds.

By the way, the amazing run of Team Liquid has been going on unbreakable at the lower bracket. Do you think they are gonna successfully kick Team Secret for good?
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(I didn't expected that the odds is favor on LGD,lol)
I'm all in to OG! TI8 champions. Topson is really incredible, a very aggressive mid laner and have the ability to be the game changer on their every games. But the only problem is how will they will manage the drafting of LGD. LGD has large hero pool, unpredictable drafts. But still, looking forward to OG.


Don't get me wrong, OG will be playing against the home crowds favorite and their rival from ti8. So it is normal to see the odds are favoring PSG-LGD but still OG has a chance to duplicate their ti8 run. On the other hand, Liquid keeps on climbing up kicking out whoever the opponents they face coming from the upper bracket and I guess they are the dark knights of this ti9.
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I am always watching matches of every teams but mostly team I watched is Team Liquid when I stop playing Dota 2 for a moment. Each team have chances on winning the championship as the champion. I think the prize pool will still increase but I don't know the reason why it is increase but what I know is that the percentage of the amount used to buy battle pass will go to the prizepool.. Good luck to the teams and also to the bettors who bet.
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Why Team Secret? Hmmm. DPC points Champion. Period.
They have the best captain and a beast carry.
Major Champion or any other tourneys does not guarantee that they would able to pull it out on this year international which is really unpredictable.Take a look on underdog infamous which able to pass up some top rank teams in the list.
OG VS LGD
(I didn't expected that the odds is favor on LGD,lol)
I'm all in to OG! TI8 champions. Topson is really incredible, a very aggressive mid laner and have the ability to be the game changer on their every games. But the only problem is how will they will manage the drafting of LGD. LGD has large hero pool, unpredictable drafts. But still, looking forward to OG.

The event held on shanghai - a Chinese team so its quite understandable that they would be the favorite this time not saying that they arent good but possibly they can make some revenge with OG with this year TI's.
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I'm really disappointed on EG. They can easily take down Liquid with there ability to dominate every lane, but their drafts are really trash.

I am too, I am on their side thinking they can defeat Liquid but they can't.

Seeing their match, they can't win most of the lanes and they are really dominated, I agree that it is an out picked match-up.

Liquids draft is much better among on 2 games plus the good performance of its players.I see that EG is a good team but it isn't enough
to beat up Liquid.They might be on lower bracket but doesn't mean that they can beat up those teams on high tiers.LGD vs OG would be hot as hell.  Grin
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I'm really disappointed on EG. They can easily take down Liquid with there ability to dominate every lane, but their drafts are really trash.

I am too, I am on their side thinking they can defeat Liquid but they can't.

Seeing their match, they can't win most of the lanes and they are really dominated, I agree that it is an out picked match-up.

SECRET VS VG


I'm with VG here.

A lot of analysts are saying Team Secret can win the TI but for me this will be a Chinese turn to win. Another thing is that I think VG can surprise Secret's run in the lower bracket. For now, I really want to see the rematch of ti8's Finalists, that would be really exciting.
legendary
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I'm really disappointed on EG. They can easily take down Liquid with there ability to dominate every lane, but their drafts are really trash.
Ok. Move on.

SECRET VS VG
I will be on Team Secret especially the odds on Playbetr.com are almost equal, it's good to make some make some huge bet here.
Why Team Secret? Hmmm. DPC points Champion. Period.
They have the best captain and a beast carry.

OG VS LGD

(I didn't expected that the odds is favor on LGD,lol)
I'm all in to OG! TI8 champions. Topson is really incredible, a very aggressive mid laner and have the ability to be the game changer on their every games. But the only problem is how will they will manage the drafting of LGD. LGD has large hero pool, unpredictable drafts. But still, looking forward to OG.
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