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Topic: DNotes 2.0 - Staking, CRISP Interest, DNotes Pay - page 104. (Read 148870 times)

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Well now anybody who uses wordpress can easily sell products for DNotes too, which is super handy. I'm sure we will soon be collating lists of online stores that accept DNotes for payment. As our software suite expands, we will be able to integrate all kinds of other automated steps into the process. For example when our exchange and bank are deployed, we could see DNotes paid to the merchant, then automatically exchanged for the merchants local currency, and sent to their bank account. This would make DNotes a preferred means of international trade for merchants that want to operate in fiat money -- which will make DNotes a competitor for global payments.

Very bright times ahead.


Brilliant idea. Including DNotes into sites the general public will frequent via the app will move us to the next step of public acceptance. Perhaps a link on the app window to a page that explains crypto and how and where to obtain DNotes would boost acceptance even more. 

That's a fantastic idea!

Thanks. Whatever we can do to increase adoption will eventually help the entire ecosystem. Never leave a potential customer wanting for information that will help make the sale and support the backend as well.
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Well now anybody who uses wordpress can easily sell products for DNotes too, which is super handy. I'm sure we will soon be collating lists of online stores that accept DNotes for payment. As our software suite expands, we will be able to integrate all kinds of other automated steps into the process. For example when our exchange and bank are deployed, we could see DNotes paid to the merchant, then automatically exchanged for the merchants local currency, and sent to their bank account. This would make DNotes a preferred means of international trade for merchants that want to operate in fiat money -- which will make DNotes a competitor for global payments.

Very bright times ahead.


Brilliant idea. Including DNotes into sites the general public will frequent via the app will move us to the next step of public acceptance. Perhaps a link on the app window to a page that explains crypto and how and where to obtain DNotes would boost acceptance even more. 

That's a fantastic idea!
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Just a heads up, we are having intermittent issues at DNotesVault. One of the servers keeps losing connection (problems at hosting).
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Well now anybody who uses wordpress can easily sell products for DNotes too, which is super handy. I'm sure we will soon be collating lists of online stores that accept DNotes for payment. As our software suite expands, we will be able to integrate all kinds of other automated steps into the process. For example when our exchange and bank are deployed, we could see DNotes paid to the merchant, then automatically exchanged for the merchants local currency, and sent to their bank account. This would make DNotes a preferred means of international trade for merchants that want to operate in fiat money -- which will make DNotes a competitor for global payments.

Very bright times ahead.


Brilliant idea. Including DNotes into sites the general public will frequent via the app will move us to the next step of public acceptance. Perhaps a link on the app window to a page that explains crypto and how and where to obtain DNotes would boost acceptance even more. 
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Well now anybody who uses wordpress can easily sell products for DNotes too, which is super handy. I'm sure we will soon be collating lists of online stores that accept DNotes for payment. As our software suite expands, we will be able to integrate all kinds of other automated steps into the process. For example when our exchange and bank are deployed, we could see DNotes paid to the merchant, then automatically exchanged for the merchants local currency, and sent to their bank account. This would make DNotes a preferred means of international trade for merchants that want to operate in fiat money -- which will make DNotes a competitor for global payments.

Very bright times ahead.
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That wordpress plugin is brilliant! I can't wait to see it in action.

Exciting times for DNotes as we continue to carve out a path forward to a more inclusive financial future. Well done!
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Just a preview of the wordpress plugin for digital products:











If you aren't familiar with wordpress, it is the most widely used website platform and it makes it so anyone can build websites fairly easily. In the above example, the first five screenshots are the settings for creating shortcodes ([dnotespay id="3"] in this example). Then you can place that shortcode on any page or post, or anywhere on your website within wordpress, and where you place the shortcode it will show your payment button. Once you click the payment button it is present you with the payment box to make a payment in DNotes. Once paid, it will present you with a link to get the product you paid for.
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Hey guys I am wondering whats with cryptopia? I thought that after the swap its only a matter of time that they will list NOTE again? Any update?

Hi SeksiStarlord, you are correct, we reached an agreement with Cryptopia and just before the listing date they advised us they updated their listing procedure and needed to do a legal review. Ultimately they did not list DNotes, you can read more of the details about it here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.36988814
And here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.38883229




What a shame I liked cryptopia, what do you think about getting on bitfineon? Exchange registered in suisse
https://bitfineon.com/get-listed

Agreed. Thanks for the suggestion, I will certainly look into them. Is there anything in particular about this exchange that you like or that would make it a good fit for DNotes?
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Hey guys I am wondering whats with cryptopia? I thought that after the swap its only a matter of time that they will list NOTE again? Any update?

Hi SeksiStarlord, you are correct, we reached an agreement with Cryptopia and just before the listing date they advised us they updated their listing procedure and needed to do a legal review. Ultimately they did not list DNotes, you can read more of the details about it here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.36988814
And here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.38883229




What a shame I liked cryptopia, what do you think about getting on bitfineon? Exchange registered in suisse
https://bitfineon.com/get-listed
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Really great to see all the work everyone is doing as our shoestring volunteer team give DNotes its final push towards becoming a fully-fledged & funded company prepared for flight. The educational material at dnotesedu is extremely useful -- especially given all the other tasks the rest of us find keeping us busy. Alan is 100% focused on funding acquisition, and Joe is very consumed managing development and managing core infrastructure, which leaves very little time to spend posting on our public forum. It has always been considered a rare luxury to have core developers and management team regularly talking to their communities, and it's all the more impressive that the time is made to engage the community despite many full-on days. We are very thankful to everyone who regularly post to keep the forum engaged and full with educational content for our lurkers to consume.

As for lurkers, come say hello! If registering for bitcointalk isn't your thing, we also have a great telegram channel where there is a lot of in depth conversation going on, and heaps of helpful people who are prepared to answer any and all questions that you can find at the following link:

https://t.me/joinchat/FB-UaUjrQiji-EBatHLsuA



What your GitHub username? Can't find Teegee

Hi Wiley, you can find our github repositories here:
https://github.com/DNotesCoin
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Really great to see all the work everyone is doing as our shoestring volunteer team give DNotes its final push towards becoming a fully-fledged & funded company prepared for flight. The educational material at dnotesedu is extremely useful -- especially given all the other tasks the rest of us find keeping us busy. Alan is 100% focused on funding acquisition, and Joe is very consumed managing development and managing core infrastructure, which leaves very little time to spend posting on our public forum. It has always been considered a rare luxury to have core developers and management team regularly talking to their communities, and it's all the more impressive that the time is made to engage the community despite many full-on days. We are very thankful to everyone who regularly post to keep the forum engaged and full with educational content for our lurkers to consume.

As for lurkers, come say hello! If registering for bitcointalk isn't your thing, we also have a great telegram channel where there is a lot of in depth conversation going on, and heaps of helpful people who are prepared to answer any and all questions that you can find at the following link:

https://t.me/joinchat/FB-UaUjrQiji-EBatHLsuA



What your GitHub username? Can't find Teegee
legendary
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Hey guys I am wondering whats with cryptopia? I thought that after the swap its only a matter of time that they will list NOTE again? Any update?

Hi SeksiStarlord, you are correct, we reached an agreement with Cryptopia and just before the listing date they advised us they updated their listing procedure and needed to do a legal review. Ultimately they did not list DNotes, you can read more of the details about it here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.36988814
And here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.38883229

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An interesting article on Forbes for anyone who read recent media reports about the latest Mueller indictment of 13 Russian officials, saw the repeated references to how the accused used Bitcoin to fund their hacking/phishing operations, and thought: "Here we go with the anti-crypto narrative again." This article correctly observes that the very fact that prosecutors were able to trace the transactions demonstrates that coins like Bitcoin "may not be the best economic instrument for criminals."

"The 29-page indictment clearly outlines the concerted efforts carried out by Russians operatives, including such commonplace cyber threats as spear phishing, malware, spoofing, virtual private networks (VPN), social engineering, and the use of bitcoin as a means of payment.  It is perhaps this last area, the use of bitcoin and the perception of anonymity the agents relied on, that left the clearest trails of their financial movements and wherewithal.

This much is shown in the indictment, which devotes substantial passages to outlining how bitcoin’s public blockchain registry served to trace back $95,000 and the perceived anonymity the perpetrators relied on.  While the bitcoin blockchain does provide “identity shelter” in the form of pseudonymous addresses, it is nevertheless a highly traceable transaction registry, much more so than the U.S. dollar for example, which only triggers red flags at large transaction thresholds.  These anti-money laundering (AML) and know your customer (KYC) rules in traditional banking also rely on often spotty compliance from a vast global banking network (one that is often culpable), wherein transactional information is stored in a one-sided manner and may be typically accessed through subpoena.  The bitcoin blockchain by contrast is a public ledger and the movements of capital and their destinations, albeit in hashed digital addresses or wallets, are highly traceable, widely known and at a much lower transaction value.  In effect, these properties enables law enforcement officials to quickly ring-fence a suspect transaction, set up trip wires and follow a veritable digital crumb trail if bitcoins are liquidated. This much held true in the WannaCry ransomware attack, where despite the vast ransom drag net, the cyber criminals only absconded with $65,000 worth of bitcoin.

While crypto crime fighting clearly taps a new set of forensic and technological approaches, such as Bitfury’s Crystal, the indictment, like the limited haul of the vast WannaCry ransomware attack, which spread to over 150 countries over a weekend affecting thousands of organizations, shows that bitcoin may not be the best economic instrument for criminals."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dantedisparte/2018/07/15/does-the-russian-indictment-exonerate-bitcoin/#7a6376ad418a

Thanks for sharing. I agree with this statement, “Bitcoin may not be the best economic instrument for criminals.” 
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Hey guys I am wondering whats with cryptopia? I thought that after the swap its only a matter of time that they will list NOTE again? Any update?
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That's all very exciting -- everybody seems to look very forward to CRISP payouts monthly. It's also really great that it's an additional saving bonus that operates very much like the savings in your bank account. You don't have to do anything to earn it, you just rack up interest over time -- and even better there is no bank that is lending our your funds while in their possession! With DNotes CRISP payouts you are in control of your own funds at all times. All in all it makes for a much more secure way to receive interest than risking your bank doing all kinds of unsavoury / economy-threatening gambles with your money!

Lending to lenders at interest can be a sound economic decision, but I would rather have the choice to either do that with my money or not. With a bank, just by having a checking or savings account I'm basically agreeing to the bank having full use of my funds for their own gain. That's the real cost of "free" checking accounts, I guess.

This brings up a question in my mind: I know DNotes Global intends to get full banking/financial licensing--basically be a bank among other things. So, how will regular fiat money held on deposit in checking accounts (or equivalent) be treated? Will the DNotes Global bank be engaging in fractional reserve banking with fiat funds? Will it need to in order to compete? I have no judgment at this point about what would be best and I'm genuinely curious.

And I do like having DNotes that earn "interest" without needing to be available for other people's use. The way stakeholders help the DNotes economy at this point is to sit on their coins (not sell them) and for that we are rewarded through the CRISP program, and if we're handy with a wallet we can also earn more immediate rewards through staking. In the fiat world, in contrast, the way you "help" the economy with your money (at least in a way that gets *somewhat* rewarded) is by putting your funds at the disposal of your bank.

I think one of the interesting first distinctions to make is that banks lending out money owned by other people for gain has economic benefit, is quite different to what was happening pre-GFC where low interest rates basically made it impossible for banks to make money this way, so they shifted their investments into risky derivative trades -- yes banks were playing a game of roulette with the government insuring against all losses, but yes, the government was also the root cause of the entire mess by incentivising the entire thing.

As to your question regarding fractional reserve lending, putting my personal views on fractional lending aside (these are well known to anybody who has read my dcebrief material), that decision has yet to be made. Another distinction would best be made between fractional reserve lending, and the use of funds created by fractional reserve lending to play roulette with the government acting to insure against all losses.

Another important point to consider is that most lending today is now made by non-banks -- DNotes Global would not need to engage in fractional reserve lending to compete if lending becomes an industry it chooses to compete aggressively in. DNotes Global Inc has yet to determine whether it will focus primarily just on chequing and savings accounts for the sake of a cryptocurrency onramp/offramp facilities (while likely offering small business and personal loans), or whether the company will seek to aggressively compete in home loans and big business loans etc. The latter could be difficult without significant outside investment and/or the ability for fractional reserve banking. It is also a point that banks now have liquidity requirements placed on them that non-banks aren't subject to, and the next crisis is likely to start with these non-bank entities and shadow banking liquidity squeeze. At this time I don't see a DNotes Global operated bank offering loans to customers in the medium term to the types of 'high risk' customers that would see the company in any kind of default crisis were widespread economic trouble become a thing like many of the larger banks were in 07/8.

At the end of the day, DNotes Global Inc will do whatever is necessary for the betterment of the entire DNotes ecosystem. Our future plans include crypto loans, and proving that DNotes can be a preferred option to fiat money, with economic stability and no ability for any group to fractionally create limitless new tokens one of those competitive strengths. If DNotes Global Inc had a fractional reserve lending bank, it wouldn't have any effect on the competitive advantage of the DNotes ecosystem, nor the core values of DNotes itself as a group. DNotes Global would be promoting its substitute payment network with all of its advantages (one of which is equitable money creation processes / no fractional reserve lending), which wouldn't be affected by having a fiat loan issuing bank, and neither would the fiat world notice the difference if DNotes Global opted not to go that route. The company would merely be participating in a well-established industry for the betterment of its competing substitute currency.



Thank you all for your support and participation in a lot of very interesting and engaging discussion.  I had been tempted to participate a few times but reminded myself that my highest priority is to focus on our Reg. D funding which went live a few days ago. It is keeping me extremely busy.

I noted that Fractional-reserve Banking came up a few times in our forum discussion.

This is my position - Fractional-reserve banking is a very important tool for our banking and financial systems, as well our economic systems in general. Frankly, without that legal leverage, the world will not be where it is today. It is an important component of the engine that powers economic growth. It is also a competitive tool that DNotes Global will not forego should it own a bank one day. As a for-profit company it will wisely use every available tool to be a well-managed and best in class company. I trust that it will leverage fractional-reserve with prudence and avoid risky and over-leveraged exposures.

The fractional-reserve will not apply to DNotes – the digital currency. You cannot spend/send more  DNotes than you have available in your wallet.


And right there is where the customer has a choice. If I want to get a return on investment but I don't like fractional reserve banking, I now have a viable way to avoid it. When there is an actual choice, then I agree with Alan that even something like fractional reserve banking can be a good tool in the proper context. The most notable change I see happening is that banks will need to share more of the profits with the people who put their money on deposit, particularly those who put large amounts with the intent to keep it there for a while in exchange for a good rate of return. Banks today advertise savings account rates of less than 1 percent, and CDs for slightly higher. Well now I can hold DNotes in my DNotes Vault and get 6 percent. So hmmm, which way will I go? The main challenge right now is that DNotes will need to first show a consistent conservation of value, as in if I paid 7 cents for my DNotes, I can realistically expect to sell them for at least 7 cents, as 6 percent interest won't matter much if my principal loses half its value in terms of price. I don't see that being a huge problem for long, just the very current short term situation. Once DNotes demonstrates a stable and climbing value, then the banks will have to at least match that 6 percent APY in order to compete. I can hardly wait.

Exactly -- the entire goal that we are building DNotes up to, is to be a viable alternative to using fiat money, and every purposeful move we have in our strategy book is rooted in knowing that we need to 1. grow, and 2. constrain volatility as much as possible, and 3. make using DNotes significantly advantageous compared to using fiat by virtue of our integrated business ecosystem. .
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Really great to see all the work everyone is doing as our shoestring volunteer team give DNotes its final push towards becoming a fully-fledged & funded company prepared for flight. The educational material at dnotesedu is extremely useful -- especially given all the other tasks the rest of us find keeping us busy. Alan is 100% focused on funding acquisition, and Joe is very consumed managing development and managing core infrastructure, which leaves very little time to spend posting on our public forum. It has always been considered a rare luxury to have core developers and management team regularly talking to their communities, and it's all the more impressive that the time is made to engage the community despite many full-on days. We are very thankful to everyone who regularly post to keep the forum engaged and full with educational content for our lurkers to consume.

As for lurkers, come say hello! If registering for bitcointalk isn't your thing, we also have a great telegram channel where there is a lot of in depth conversation going on, and heaps of helpful people who are prepared to answer any and all questions that you can find at the following link:

https://t.me/joinchat/FB-UaUjrQiji-EBatHLsuA

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