Topic: Do bookmakers influence the outcome of a match? (Read 1151 times)
There's a possibility that this can actually happen but not in popular leagues, bookmakers can influence the outcome of certain matches that are probably not on an international level.They can do this by either bribing the referees to add an outrageous amount of extra time or just do something to distabilize the game in favour of them. Over the years soccer has gradually been corrupted and it might lose its value if things like match fixing goes on. It's possible for bookmakers to alter or influence the outcome of a match in order for them to make profit fom gamblers.
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Honestly, I don't know much about whether bookies influence the outcome of bets or not, but in my opinion, it is very unlikely for bookies to influence the outcome of a game, especially if we are talking about sports betting such as football, for example, where many parties are involved and if bookies influence the outcome of a game, then of course it will be detrimental to the team that is targeted to lose. On the other hand, I believe more that bookies can influence the outcome of a game when we are talking about casino games, but when the object of discussion is a game that occurs in real life and involves many parties, I think it is unlikely.
It's possible in small league or competition because the players will be forced by the coach/management, if not they will be kicked out from the teams. At the same time the players are just young adults who not earn much money, they will be scared if they report it to the authority, not to mention the teams can bribe the authority.There are many shit thing in small league or competition, but since it's not popular, they didn't get spotlight to the global medias.
And because that is a small league, not many people will gives an eyes to them and the bookies can do what they want with some help from people who are inside the events. I admitted that many shit thing happen without we know and the medias not blow that news.
In my opinion, a bookie will never give a clue as to who will win the match, if that happens then it can be said that the bookie has failed in business, where if the clue is correct then he will lose, but most bookies give false clues and you are right, the disappointment that will occur is better to speculate yourself so as not to be fooled and feel cheated by other people when betting
It is impossible for a bookie to give hints to players who want to bet on who will win, that is something that is impossible for a bookie to do because the bookie's goal is to make a profit from the many people who bet so the bookie doesn't want many people to win in his predictions. We have to believe in our own predictions, even though defeat is still a big possibility but we have to think that no bookie will give hints to make other people win. The bookie's job is to manipulate, sometimes the bookie can do that I'm sure of that. Some people may have experienced frustration when they almost won but the bookie changed the course of the match according to his wishes. In my opinion, this does happen occasionally. 
In my opinion, a bookie will never give a clue as to who will win the match, if that happens then it can be said that the bookie has failed in business...
Do you understand that the "odds" given were the clue itself? Of course, there's no guarantee that it will be always the case in every fight/game, that's why i mentioned an "upset" should always be considered. In bookie, its always be the most favorite have the higher odds to win, yet smaller amount if won the bet and the opposite for the other one.You are right bro, odds are the clues giving to gamblers, they represent the bookies predictions based on the performance of the two teams, there previous games and players available for the match. Odds could be used to make the simplest decisions while predicting the outcome of a game. The favorite to come true are always smaller than the opposition. Though even the most assured win could end up becoming the lose so odds don't guarantee the outcome of the match it only give a clue based on performance. Its equivalent to the prediction you make, the only difference is that it's coming from the bookies itself. However it's important to gamble wisely because it all depend on luck, games could be manipulated so its best you gamble what you can afford to loss in the first place so you don't get heart broken if the opposite of your bet becomes the reality.
In my opinion, a bookie will never give a clue as to who will win the match, if that happens then it can be said that the bookie has failed in business...
Do you understand that the "odds" given were the clue itself? Of course, there's no guarantee that it will be always the case in every fight/game, that's why i mentioned an "upset" should always be considered. In bookie, its always be the most favorite have the higher odds to win, yet smaller amount if won the bet and the opposite for the other one. 
"bookmakers influence the outcome?" How on earth it's possible. Unless it's a fixed match, the player itself (or acquaintance) bet against him and bet his opponent for huge amount than the prize pool.
If you say oddsmakers can provide hints of who will win, then it's yes based on their provided odds. But sometimes, upset happens.
If you say oddsmakers can provide hints of who will win, then it's yes based on their provided odds. But sometimes, upset happens.
In my opinion, a bookie will never give a clue as to who will win the match, if that happens then it can be said that the bookie has failed in business, where if the clue is correct then he will lose, but most bookies give false clues and you are right, the disappointment that will occur is better to speculate yourself so as not to be fooled and feel cheated by other people when betting
I recently watched an interesting video where the author claimed that in many cases it is not that difficult to predict the outcome of a sports match, because bookmakers are interested in a certain outcome of the match and implicitly influence the outcome of this match. I will not publish a link to this and other similar videos here, so as not to engage in free advertising.
What is important is something else. In the video, the author claimed that modern bookmakers are so powerful that they are actually the source of players' salaries. Most of the games that are included in the bookmaker's line are not completely honest, although this is not customary to talk about. According to the author, the team as a whole is hinted at how they should play so that the team's funding continues. This mainly concerned football.
By the way, as the author claims, if we take teams from lower divisions that are subsidized by local budgets, then there too it is often easy to predict the outcome of a match. There are local teams that at certain times stop being financed by local municipalities (in poor countries) and the teams simply "dump" the match. After all, what is the point of playing for a victory for a professional team if it understands that the money for financing it was either not allocated or was sharply reduced?
And what do you think - does the bookmaker influence the outcome of sports matches?
Is this situation different for different sports? Is football unique in this sense?
A team having low funding or stopping being financed can affect the team's performance. Yes, I agree with that, but that mostly happens in local leagues, not big leagues we know of because their welfare and salaries are taken care of on time.What is important is something else. In the video, the author claimed that modern bookmakers are so powerful that they are actually the source of players' salaries. Most of the games that are included in the bookmaker's line are not completely honest, although this is not customary to talk about. According to the author, the team as a whole is hinted at how they should play so that the team's funding continues. This mainly concerned football.
By the way, as the author claims, if we take teams from lower divisions that are subsidized by local budgets, then there too it is often easy to predict the outcome of a match. There are local teams that at certain times stop being financed by local municipalities (in poor countries) and the teams simply "dump" the match. After all, what is the point of playing for a victory for a professional team if it understands that the money for financing it was either not allocated or was sharply reduced?
And what do you think - does the bookmaker influence the outcome of sports matches?
Is this situation different for different sports? Is football unique in this sense?
Every player in a club is being paid according to how their performance is. A player can't act funny in a match because he's paid less than the other. Instead, he would like to perform much better so that his weekly salary would increase.
Many gamblers don't know or look at what players earn before they make a bet on the matches. What they focus on is the current form of the team, home and away advantage, and head-to-head records. However, I can say that bookmarks don't influence the outcome of a match
Honestly, I don't know much about whether bookies influence the outcome of bets or not, but in my opinion, it is very unlikely for bookies to influence the outcome of a game, especially if we are talking about sports betting such as football, for example, where many parties are involved and if bookies influence the outcome of a game, then of course it will be detrimental to the team that is targeted to lose. On the other hand, I believe more that bookies can influence the outcome of a game when we are talking about casino games, but when the object of discussion is a game that occurs in real life and involves many parties, I think it is unlikely.
It's possible in small league or competition because the players will be forced by the coach/management, if not they will be kicked out from the teams. At the same time the players are just young adults who not earn much money, they will be scared if they report it to the authority, not to mention the teams can bribe the authority.There are many shit thing in small league or competition, but since it's not popular, they didn't get spotlight to the global medias.
Honestly, I don't know much about whether bookies influence the outcome of bets or not, but in my opinion, it is very unlikely for bookies to influence the outcome of a game, especially if we are talking about sports betting such as football, for example, where many parties are involved and if bookies influence the outcome of a game, then of course it will be detrimental to the team that is targeted to lose. On the other hand, I believe more that bookies can influence the outcome of a game when we are talking about casino games, but when the object of discussion is a game that occurs in real life and involves many parties, I think it is unlikely.
They surely can. If they want for example a certain game to end like they want they have the meaning, resources and inside people to make this happen and no one can stop them, have you people not wondered if you check the results of the Serie A for example in the year 1990-1995 you can see that the amount of surprise results have been at a bare minimum where the strongest teams used to win always or at least 90% of their games. This is something does not happen anymore as we have to find a miracle for example if all the top major 5 leagues of soccer in Europe would show a weekend without a single surprise result, yesterday we had Real draw again and with the super star players they have they surely have the capability to beat a team like Las Palmas or whoever did they play yesterday. So bottom line yes and that is the reason surprise results happen every week now.
Well, this is all guess work since we don't have reasonable evidence to support the claim and likewise, we can not completely refute the claim judging from what we normally see out there. However, we have to realize that this is football and the result is not predetermined and moreover, we can not expect the strong team to always win against a weak team because that's what makes it to be competitive. Nobody will be interested to watch again and it'll become boring if by norms stronger teams win always.
The weak teams grow and catch up and the stronger teams lose form apart from individual weakness. These are some of the things that influence the match where we see underdog teams performing wonders. Although, this can still happen in a remote leagues where there funds directly or indirectly linked to a gambling platform. In top leagues, it will cost them a lot of money even if it's possible and the secret might get leaked out to public which I don't think any gambling platform is ready to face the aftermath consequences.
I cannot completely rule out the fact that nobody has influence over the outcome of a match. It is present and most of out suspicions are true to some extent. But trying to think like that only reduces the enjoyment of the game and the opinion to bet fairly.
Hence I opine that bookmakers, sponsors all have their hands in the game but as a gambler we have to think that the game is fair and whatever our luck leads us to was the fair outcome. Otherwise you will just become paranoid about the game.
It is a twisted industry and the more we stay in the superficial layer, the better.
Hence I opine that bookmakers, sponsors all have their hands in the game but as a gambler we have to think that the game is fair and whatever our luck leads us to was the fair outcome. Otherwise you will just become paranoid about the game.
It is a twisted industry and the more we stay in the superficial layer, the better.
In my opinion, it is very possible for bookies and match results, but for me it only applies to local matches in developing countries, because money can buy everything, but also not all matches are arranged by bookies, only a small part, if the match is considered profitable for the bookie
I have heard in the news in recent years that in weak leagues where players' salaries are not very high, there could be match-fixing because players wanted to make money. But I can't blame all the players of one team for this, because some players would never do it because of principles. While really bad players can do it because they understand that they don't have much time left to play for this team. In general, professionals can identify such players by studying the match in detail, I have no doubt about it.
Well I don't really know much about this but with the description so far, it makes it look very possible as something that can actually happen especially for the sake of making more money probably to increase their pay and the fact they believe they will be leaving the team soon so they almost have got nothing to lose if they act in such a manner.Such cases do often occur in leagues like @sompitonov said, I personally don't find it strange because it is also a form of mafia activity that is always fought by related parties as well to make a healthier match without cheating and without match-fixing and other bad things. Because after all, in the past one of the top Serie A teams was also exposed to such cases, until the relevant team was punished which made it go down to the division below and their trophy title was also revoked. So, whether it's a small league or a big league, I think cases like this can happen but maybe not many cases are revealed too. But the point is, the result of the match can indeed be arranged although indeed, there will always be efforts to eradicate it.
I believe it’s not just that the bookmakers make their odds based on team performance, Injuries, and Historical data but also what the public sees in the match. There is a popularity factor, so they may change the odds, so a lot of people would be on that Team.
I believe if there is something fishy, there should be regulation of it. I see it as match-fixing. There may be pressure from the business owners or something for the bookmakers to prioritize a team or something.
I think it affects in some way, but not all the time.
I believe if there is something fishy, there should be regulation of it. I see it as match-fixing. There may be pressure from the business owners or something for the bookmakers to prioritize a team or something.
I think it affects in some way, but not all the time.
Prior to yesterday, I would have had the opinion that the bookies don't have much influence over a game as they don't really care. They have bettors betting both sides of a game and profit from the vig they charge normally, but a couple of college games had me scratching my head. If a team is down 20+ points in a college football game and the game is under the point total with 15 seconds left in the game, what usually happens? Normally you would see a team go for it on 4th and goal since they don't have any shot of winning the game, or they kneel down and game over. Nope, they kicked a field goal and made the point total go over. I cannot guarantee it, but kinda odd and Vegas must've had a ton of money bet on under, so if the game went over they clean up.
Nothing would surprise me these days.
Nothing would surprise me these days.
Whatever creepy ideology/ assumptions that anyone can develop in them, in a bid to spill the beans can always stay in their heads to avoid further confusion.
Bookmakers are solely responsible for one thing - I mean, a host of other things - but all in one category. They only fix the odds for these matches and, I can say that these leagues would be a total mess if it was predicted by some sort of bodies/agencies etc.
Are y'all trying to say that we don't have genuine sport performances anymore for just a simple hypothesis? If this is happening in lower leagues ( which I'm yet to see proves) then that's it.
Bookmakers are solely responsible for one thing - I mean, a host of other things - but all in one category. They only fix the odds for these matches and, I can say that these leagues would be a total mess if it was predicted by some sort of bodies/agencies etc.
Are y'all trying to say that we don't have genuine sport performances anymore for just a simple hypothesis? If this is happening in lower leagues ( which I'm yet to see proves) then that's it.
I was already wondering how it would be that bookmarkers can not only set the odds but influence every single market available on a spot event. It's actually insane to think that bookmarkers will influence moneyline, under/over, corners, bookings, shots on target, etc to just to scroll up with gamblers. If that is the case then it's not possible as not all gamblers play the same markets and bookmarkers can cover all cases. Although, I do believe that there might be instances where bookmarkers can influence sports events if it were all possible but that would be in very smaller leagues compete to the biggest ones like the EPL, La liga, etc.
Though it seem possible to a certain level, that bookmakers can actually influence a game. It's no new how some player gamble on themselves just to make extra profit from the match, how much more If they're being paid by bookmakers to do so plus their secret gambling lifestyle. All im saying is, some player are really cheap to strike such deal with considering the consequences, yet they still go ahead to tiking such risk. But according to what you said, their are multiple choices available in a game so, nor all gamblers would go for the same option, so definitely some lucky gambler would pick a separate option and win from the game, but majority might go for the influenced option by the bookmarkers.
"bookmakers influence the outcome?" How on earth it's possible. Unless it's a fixed match, the player itself (or acquaintance) bet against him and bet his opponent for huge amount than the prize pool.
If you say oddsmakers can provide hints of who will win, then it's yes based on their provided odds. But sometimes, upset happens.
Besides they do not need it, casinos are often accused of rigging their games, but since they have the house edge and probabilities on their favor, rigging the games not only will put their business at stake, but if a player realized this was the case and discovered how they did it, then they could make bets that never lose by betting always on the winners, and bookmakers are the same, they do not need to rig games, by calculating accurate odds and balancing their books they can make amazing profits, trying to influence the games is just a waste of effort on their part and they will add a massive risk for their business with no potential gain. If you say oddsmakers can provide hints of who will win, then it's yes based on their provided odds. But sometimes, upset happens.
Whatever creepy ideology/ assumptions that anyone can develop in them, in a bid to spill the beans can always stay in their heads to avoid further confusion.
Bookmakers are solely responsible for one thing - I mean, a host of other things - but all in one category. They only fix the odds for these matches and, I can say that these leagues would be a total mess if it was predicted by some sort of bodies/agencies etc.
Are y'all trying to say that we don't have genuine sport performances anymore for just a simple hypothesis? If this is happening in lower leagues ( which I'm yet to see proves) then that's it.
Bookmakers are solely responsible for one thing - I mean, a host of other things - but all in one category. They only fix the odds for these matches and, I can say that these leagues would be a total mess if it was predicted by some sort of bodies/agencies etc.
Are y'all trying to say that we don't have genuine sport performances anymore for just a simple hypothesis? If this is happening in lower leagues ( which I'm yet to see proves) then that's it.
I was already wondering how it would be that bookmarkers can not only set the odds but influence every single market available on a spot event. It's actually insane to think that bookmarkers will influence moneyline, under/over, corners, bookings, shots on target, etc to just to scroll up with gamblers. If that is the case then it's not possible as not all gamblers play the same markets and bookmarkers can cover all cases. Although, I do believe that there might be instances where bookmarkers can influence sports events if it were all possible but that would be in very smaller leagues compete to the biggest ones like the EPL, La liga, etc.
Whatever creepy ideology/ assumptions that anyone can develop in them, in a bid to spill the beans can always stay in their heads to avoid further confusion.
Bookmakers are solely responsible for one thing - I mean, a host of other things - but all in one category. They only fix the odds for these matches and, I can say that these leagues would be a total mess if it was predicted by some sort of bodies/agencies etc.
Are y'all trying to say that we don't have genuine sport performances anymore for just a simple hypothesis? If this is happening in lower leagues ( which I'm yet to see proves) then that's it.
Bookmakers are solely responsible for one thing - I mean, a host of other things - but all in one category. They only fix the odds for these matches and, I can say that these leagues would be a total mess if it was predicted by some sort of bodies/agencies etc.
Are y'all trying to say that we don't have genuine sport performances anymore for just a simple hypothesis? If this is happening in lower leagues ( which I'm yet to see proves) then that's it.
I don't think bookmakers would be able to influence the outcome of matches on major leagues like EPL and so on, I think this can only be done on leagues that are not really pronounced and this is actually a corrupt system that should be looked into. Most of these bookmakers influence some local leagues so the outcome can be manipulated to favour them, as a gambler you should know the specific leagues to bet on so you wouldn't end up betting on a match that's fixed. This system has made soccer uninteresting, does this exist in other sports apart from football?
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