The concept that bookmakers fix matches is ridiculous. They're no secret cabal dictating game outcomes. They're businessmen. They set data-driven odds. They study teams, players, and history to forecast the future. Its excellent business to have financial ties to teams and leagues. It doesnt mean they're in charge. Thinkers like that are looking for a conspiracy where none exists.
Lets discuss lower-division teams. They're struggling. Sometimes desperate people make desperate choices. People are like that. Its not the bookmakers' fault. It reflects the clubs' severe economic conditions. We should stop blaming and start seeing the big picture. Complex and unfair, sports are an ecology. That doesnt mean foul play. Nearly all athletes and officials are honest, industrious, and desire to win fairly. Lets credit them.
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I usually believe that bookmakers can influence the outcome of a football match, and that is why we have what is called games fixing, because at some point, those bookmakers are big resource point for some of the league and in prep match their may want to influence the outcome of those match based on the direction that most of the bets are going, take for example, when Manchester City and another weaker club like Chelsea are having a match, the bookies already know that most of the bets that will come in this regard will be in favor of Manchester City for a straight winning, so for sure their may likely want to influence the match outcome so as to cash out all the gamblers bets.
As long as long as there is an house edge on in house games, same will go with sport bets because there is no way the casino will survive with revenue generation without such an act.
I disagree with you the bolded statement. We all know that Manchester City is stronger than Chelsea which most people will bet on City winning and the bookers will give City the lower odds because it is clear that City has a higher chance of winning than losing. I don't see that as influencing of the match. As long as it is gambling that you are predicting the outcome of an event that has not taken place, you might lose or win and that is where the bookmakers make their funds because the game might turn out to be the opposite. Another thing is that gamblers are so greedy that they don't like betting on small odds. If you talk about casino games, I can understand that the casino algorithm influences the outcome of your bet. As long as long as there is an house edge on in house games, same will go with sport bets because there is no way the casino will survive with revenue generation without such an act.
And what do you think - does the bookmaker influence the outcome of sports matches?
Is this situation different for different sports? Is football unique in this sense?
The big leagues are not influenced by betting sites.Is this situation different for different sports? Is football unique in this sense?
I will not believe the author that bookmakers influences the outcome of a match because football is not gambling and every team and coach is fighting hard to see that they win the title at the end of the season for profit.
This can be true for big leagues like the English Premier League, La Liga and other big leagues but it is not true in some lower leagues that the outcome can be manipulated. They are manipulating the outcome of the match because of something connecting to betting. Small leagues that are included in gambling are certainly a more easy target if they have a low level of justice, they will be easily influenced by money from bookmakers that make a match manipulated, the possibility of small leagues is greater to be influenced by bookmakers.
I recently watched an interesting video where the author claimed that in many cases it is not that difficult to predict the outcome of a sports match, because bookmakers are interested in a certain outcome of the match and implicitly influence the outcome of this match. I will not publish a link to this and other similar videos here, so as not to engage in free advertising.
What is important is something else. In the video, the author claimed that modern bookmakers are so powerful that they are actually the source of players' salaries. Most of the games that are included in the bookmaker's line are not completely honest, although this is not customary to talk about. According to the author, the team as a whole is hinted at how they should play so that the team's funding continues. This mainly concerned football.
By the way, as the author claims, if we take teams from lower divisions that are subsidized by local budgets, then there too it is often easy to predict the outcome of a match. There are local teams that at certain times stop being financed by local municipalities (in poor countries) and the teams simply "dump" the match. After all, what is the point of playing for a victory for a professional team if it understands that the money for financing it was either not allocated or was sharply reduced?
And what do you think - does the bookmaker influence the outcome of sports matches?
Is this situation different for different sports? Is football unique in this sense?
I may see this happening on local leagues in which a local bookmaker had great influence within the community, but I do not see this being true when it comes to the most famous leagues around the world, and the reason for this is simple, such a conspiracy will need thousands of people being aware of what is happening, and in this age it is almost impossible to keep such secret for so long, and sooner or later someone will talk more than what they should and the conspiracy will become public knowledge, and since this has not happened, I can only assume it is not possible to do at all. What is important is something else. In the video, the author claimed that modern bookmakers are so powerful that they are actually the source of players' salaries. Most of the games that are included in the bookmaker's line are not completely honest, although this is not customary to talk about. According to the author, the team as a whole is hinted at how they should play so that the team's funding continues. This mainly concerned football.
By the way, as the author claims, if we take teams from lower divisions that are subsidized by local budgets, then there too it is often easy to predict the outcome of a match. There are local teams that at certain times stop being financed by local municipalities (in poor countries) and the teams simply "dump" the match. After all, what is the point of playing for a victory for a professional team if it understands that the money for financing it was either not allocated or was sharply reduced?
And what do you think - does the bookmaker influence the outcome of sports matches?
Is this situation different for different sports? Is football unique in this sense?
They surely can. If they want for example a certain game to end like they want they have the meaning, resources and inside people to make this happen and no one can stop them, have you people not wondered if you check the results of the Serie A for example in the year 1990-1995 you can see that the amount of surprise results have been at a bare minimum where the strongest teams used to win always or at least 90% of their games. This is something does not happen anymore as we have to find a miracle for example if all the top major 5 leagues of soccer in Europe would show a weekend without a single surprise result, yesterday we had Real draw again and with the super star players they have they surely have the capability to beat a team like Las Palmas or whoever did they play yesterday. So bottom line yes and that is the reason surprise results happen every week now.
One of the most famous scandals in Serie A was Calciopoli which occurred in 2005-2006. I don't know whether the bookies are involved in this case or not, but what is certain is that match fixing really does exist. Match-fixing scandals are much easier to happen in a country's smaller leagues, but I think the same thing would be very difficult to happen in Europe's top leagues because of better oversight.Of course it's not surprising that top European teams have been involved in such scandals, but I never know who financed it regardless of whether it was a bookmaker or an individual. Cases like this can involve one team, several players, or even the referee who officiates at the match.
In the video, the author claimed that modern bookmakers are so powerful that they are actually the source of players' salaries. Most of the games that are included in the bookmaker's line are not completely honest, although this is not customary to talk about. According to the author, the team as a whole is hinted at how they should play so that the team's funding continues.
The way statement reads, bookmakers funding players salaries can lead to players getting blackmailed and have them play the way bookmakers want them to play, some may give in due to their financial positions and some due to greed.
In this case, the player may get the usual salary or a little more but the real beneficiaries will be the bookmakers because they know the outcome of the match beforehand and they will give odds according to that and manipulate this betting business to a greater extent. Also, it depends upon whom they influence because if the player is top-rated and is a star, he won't settle for anything less because he (the player) will have to perform below his ability to lose the game and it will impact his career too.
Also if this is known anytime in future that the player sold himself to the bookmaker, that will be the end of the career for him. You can get a lot of fame and money over time with good performances but only the greedy ones will risk this for quick money.
I recently watched an interesting video where the author claimed that in many cases it is not that difficult to predict the outcome of a sports match, because bookmakers are interested in a certain outcome of the match and implicitly influence the outcome of this match.
That's made up. They influence it how? Why would they do it? Bookmakers make money regardless of the outcome. In fact, they make the most money when the total value of bets is the highest, so it's in their interest to look legit, attract the most people, make the cash pile up because they get % of that pile. If they get involved in shady business they get less people to trust them and earn less.
Bookmakers powerful? If they're so powerful why don't they bet themselves with unlimited cash. They can for instance invest their own bankroll if they know the match is fixed and earn 100 times more than they would in normal circumstances.
In the video, the author claimed that modern bookmakers are so powerful that they are actually the source of players' salaries. Most of the games that are included in the bookmaker's line are not completely honest, although this is not customary to talk about. According to the author, the team as a whole is hinted at how they should play so that the team's funding continues.
The way statement reads, bookmakers funding players salaries can lead to players getting blackmailed and have them play the way bookmakers want them to play, some may give in due to their financial positions and some due to greed.
And what do you think - does the bookmaker influence the outcome of sports matches?
Is this situation different for different sports? Is football unique in this sense?
Is this situation different for different sports? Is football unique in this sense?
What I think is that the people saying this don't have any prove but they're just saying what they feel for major tournaments. Bookmakers can influence local Sunday league games that people don't care about and don't know anything that is happening over there. They can influence a collage game but not international tournaments that is being watched by many audiences. If something is fishy in a game, there are organizations incharge of investigating and when there's a team that is being influenced by a bookmarker, it'll be discovered. They have being uncovering players that are helping their friends and relatives to win hence finding teams that are doing so for the bookmarkers won't be challenging. Sportsbook and casino sponsoring clubs can't interfere with how their matches turn out too because they'll be caught.
And what do you think - does the bookmaker influence the outcome of sports matches?
Is this situation different for different sports? Is football unique in this sense?
Nothing is impossible in this world that is ruled by greed and materialism. Although I have not had any experience with bookmakers influencing the outcome of games, I don't doubt the possibility of such happening. There have been cases of players and referees engaging in match-fixing, who knows if they were influenced by bookmakers? Major football leagues will be very difficult to influence since it will be expensive and difficult. These top leagues are highly regulated and such a crime can be dictated easily.Is this situation different for different sports? Is football unique in this sense?
Sports that involve single participants like boxing, cycling, tennis, etc can be easily influenced by bookmakers, since it will be easy to influence a single sportsman. Football will be hard to influence because it involves a team and is under strict regulation. A football match that was influenced will be easily dictated.
I usually believe that bookmakers can influence the outcome of a football match, and that is why we have what is called games fixing, because at some point, those bookmakers are big resource point for some of the league and in prep match their may want to influence the outcome of those match based on the direction that most of the bets are going, take for example, when Manchester City and another weaker club like Chelsea are having a match, the bookies already know that most of the bets that will come in this regard will be in favor of Manchester City for a straight winning, so for sure their may likely want to influence the match outcome so as to cash out all the gamblers bets.
As long as long as there is an house edge on in house games, same will go with sport bets because there is no way the casino will survive with revenue generation without such an act.
As long as long as there is an house edge on in house games, same will go with sport bets because there is no way the casino will survive with revenue generation without such an act.
If you think bookmakers can manipulate the results, regardless it's small or big league, it should be same because in big league like Premier League, more than 50% of shirt sponsors are from gambling. This mean gambling is really big for Premier League.
Personally, I don't believe bookmakers can influence to manipulate the results, they're just promoting their brands.
If they get caught, it will be disaster for them since it would ruin their reputation.
https://www.scoreandchange.com/overview-of-the-2024-2025-premier-league-sponsors/
Personally, I don't believe bookmakers can influence to manipulate the results, they're just promoting their brands.
If they get caught, it will be disaster for them since it would ruin their reputation.
https://www.scoreandchange.com/overview-of-the-2024-2025-premier-league-sponsors/
Maybe the chance for this situation to happen is so low since for sure that their marketing deals with certain teams or in the league might be in trouble if they try to pull those manipulative techniques towards each team they are having a deal. And usually the common thing what we see from their participation on those leagues is they just want to market their brands. To many casino do this and so far I didn't hear any issue that book maker influence the result of the game since so far there's no one complaining towards this matter.
Lots of people maybe got curious about the possibilities especially they know that there's huge money involve on the deals they made from those team. But they need to understand that for sure manipulating the team is not included with every sponsorships deals they made.
They surely can. If they want for example a certain game to end like they want they have the meaning, resources and inside people to make this happen and no one can stop them, have you people not wondered if you check the results of the Serie A for example in the year 1990-1995 you can see that the amount of surprise results have been at a bare minimum where the strongest teams used to win always or at least 90% of their games. This is something does not happen anymore as we have to find a miracle for example if all the top major 5 leagues of soccer in Europe would show a weekend without a single surprise result, yesterday we had Real draw again and with the super star players they have they surely have the capability to beat a team like Las Palmas or whoever did they play yesterday. So bottom line yes and that is the reason surprise results happen every week now.
If you think bookmakers can manipulate the results, regardless it's small or big league, it should be same because in big league like Premier League, more than 50% of shirt sponsors are from gambling. This mean gambling is really big for Premier League.
Personally, I don't believe bookmakers can influence to manipulate the results, they're just promoting their brands.
If they get caught, it will be disaster for them since it would ruin their reputation.
https://www.scoreandchange.com/overview-of-the-2024-2025-premier-league-sponsors/
Personally, I don't believe bookmakers can influence to manipulate the results, they're just promoting their brands.
If they get caught, it will be disaster for them since it would ruin their reputation.
https://www.scoreandchange.com/overview-of-the-2024-2025-premier-league-sponsors/
The chances of these things happening may be very slim and rare, but it doesn't rule out the fact that it can actually happen.
We could also say it this way: "The chance of them getting caught is very slim." This suggests that major leagues are indeed rigged; it’s just hard to catch them since they are protected and their business must continue. There’s a saying in sports betting: don’t be fooled by public perception, as it is usually wrong. The side where the smart bets or whales are placing their money is often against the public perception.This is actually interesting because, based on my experience, when I easily judge a match and am very confident that the better team will win, so I take the spread, I often end up losing. The favorite might not cover the spread or, even worse, could lose the game entirely.
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I guess if it's lower-end tourneys or small-end ones? I highly doubt bookmakers have THAT much influence. Otherwise the sports industry would be a pretty dogshit place already, which it isn't as far as I know. I don't think this happens in the big tourneys and even if it did, pretty sure most people who watch aren't THAT dumb. They're able to see if a match is actually fixed or not. Plus, whatever video you watched is probably just spouting nonsense. Probably didn't have any proof as well either.
This is just a conspiracy theory, and while it might happen in the real world, we have no evidence to prove it. Bookmakers simply offer gamblers a chance to bet and make money regardless of the outcome of the game. It wouldn’t make sense for them to influence the outcome, as it would put their reputation at risk and potentially harm their profitable business if caught. I think those syndicates are the ones betting against the public; they take the public's money, who usually bet on the clear favorite, but as I mentioned, bookmakers still make money in the end.
This is a serious allegation. Been thinking about this and it's hard for me to believe that nothing is impossible, which means there are chances that these things can actually happen especially between smaller teams in local leagues who not have much international attention and need to be bankrolled so badly. Anyone can be used to influence the outcome of a match. It could be the coach, the referee, a particular player or the technical team to either rig the match or underperform. The chances of these things happening may be very slim and rare, but it doesn't rule out the fact that it can actually happen.
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And what do you think - does the bookmaker influence the outcome of sports matches?
Is this situation different for different sports? Is football unique in this sense?
Is this situation different for different sports? Is football unique in this sense?
I don’t believe on this speculation simply because bookmaker is just a 3rd party that use the game for gambling. They will have profit regardless of the result because of the house edge while players is just betting against other players money too.
A sports is heavily sponsored by different brands and they have tickets sales that generate the profit. Bookmaker is not needed to run a sports game so I don’t why they will have power to influence the match that will cause for a potential questioning about the fairness of the game.
There’s no one control the outcome of the game except for the players itself.
I will not publish a link to this and other similar videos here, so as not to engage in free advertising.
You won't publish it because there is no such thing or the material is written by someone who clearly doesn't know a thing!
It's the team that influences the odds bookies have, not bookies influencing the outcome of a match with their odds, how could that even be possible? Rigging the outcome, yes, that's one thing, but just because they would make Osasuna 1.05 favorite against Barcelona it doesn't mean suddenly Barcelona will play like a 4th rate team because a bookie said so!
This is one of that tinfoil hat theories spread across for clicks, if he had had any proof we would have seen the greatest scandal in history, but as usual, nothing. Any such thing would be easily detected by bots and betting arbitrage would kick in the moment one bookie tries to manipulate the odds, just as players gambling on exotic matches with wrong odds are caught easily so would gamblers easily detect something is fishy about the odds.
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