Topic: Do bookmakers influence the outcome of a match? - page 2. (Read 1138 times)

I recently watched an interesting video where the author claimed that in many cases it is not that difficult to predict the outcome of a sports match, because bookmakers are interested in a certain outcome of the match and implicitly influence the outcome of this match. I will not publish a link to this and other similar videos here, so as not to engage in free advertising.
What is important is something else. In the video, the author claimed that modern bookmakers are so powerful that they are actually the source of players' salaries. Most of the games that are included in the bookmaker's line are not completely honest, although this is not customary to talk about. According to the author, the team as a whole is hinted at how they should play so that the team's funding continues. This mainly concerned football.
By the way, as the author claims, if we take teams from lower divisions that are subsidized by local budgets, then there too it is often easy to predict the outcome of a match. There are local teams that at certain times stop being financed by local municipalities (in poor countries) and the teams simply "dump" the match. After all, what is the point of playing for a victory for a professional team if it understands that the money for financing it was either not allocated or was sharply reduced?
And what do you think - does the bookmaker influence the outcome of sports matches?
Is this situation different for different sports? Is football unique in this sense?

In other words, everybody supports the team which benefits him/her the most. Bookmakers will support the team which the gamblers favor less because the more the players lose, the more the bookie makes money. Let's say If 80% of the total bettors support Barcelona against Bayern, then the bookmaker will want Bayern's victory because it is going to benefit the bookmaker more.

Shit happens sometimes because there is always some luck element in every sports game but in the long run casinos always make money.

Well I don't really know much about this but with the description so far, it makes it look very possible as something that can actually happen especially for the sake of making more money probably to increase their pay and the fact they believe they will be leaving the team soon so they almost have got nothing to lose if they act in such a manner.

"bookmakers influence the outcome?" How on earth it's possible. Unless it's a fixed match, the player itself (or acquaintance) bet against him and bet his opponent for huge amount than the prize pool.

If you say oddsmakers can provide hints of who will win, then it's yes based on their provided odds. But sometimes, upset happens.

And what do you think - does the bookmaker influence the outcome of sports matches?
Is this situation different for different sports? Is football unique in this sense?

Well I don't really know much about this but with the description so far, it makes it look very possible as something that can actually happen especially for the sake of making more money probably to increase their pay and the fact they believe they will be leaving the team soon so they almost have got nothing to lose if they act in such a manner.

I have heard in the news in recent years that in weak leagues where players' salaries are not very high, there could be match-fixing because players wanted to make money. But I can't blame all the players of one team for this, because some players would never do it because of principles. While really bad players can do it because they understand that they don't have much time left to play for this team. In general, professionals can identify such players by studying the match in detail, I have no doubt about it.

In fact, I don't want to believe that such a thing would go on in a setting like football. Moreover, clubs constantly show their dominance over weaker teams and don't want to waste chances to score in most of his games. Many ways such as that they influence the decision of certain teams to buy certain players. If they sponsor that team and it's just natural and purely business oriented. When this kind of thing takes hold, the players can't give anything good during the game because the match is already over. Because its results have been revealed earlier by deceiving everyone.

even the hints given by bookmakers through Odds are also uncertain.
bookmakers can influence the match if they can indeed arrange the match. I know the practice of match-fixing is running. but not all can be done easily, especially in football matches that involve many parties.
maybe different in the type of bet for a fight like boxing. the arrangement scheme may be as you illustrate.

In fact, I don't want to believe that such a thing would go on in a setting like football. Moreover, clubs constantly show their dominance over weaker teams and don't want to waste chances to score in most of his games. Many ways such as that they influence the decision of certain teams to buy certain players. If they sponsor that team and it's just natural and purely business oriented. When this kind of thing takes hold, the players can't give anything good during the game because the match is already over. Because its results have been revealed earlier by deceiving everyone.

Outside of the possibility of extorting players to get the outcome they want, I doubt bookmakers have anything to do with the outcome of a match. I mean, you could make the argument about the butterfly effect and all that, but realistically when it comes to playing on the field, I seriously doubt that professional athletes are thinking about anything other than performing.

"bookmakers influence the outcome?" How on earth it's possible. Unless it's a fixed match, the player itself (or acquaintance) bet against him and bet his opponent for huge amount than the prize pool.

If you say oddsmakers can provide hints of who will win, then it's yes based on their provided odds. But sometimes, upset happens.

This is like fraud that has been systematic and has been well planned, so that it will not be detected that everything has been regulated by the bookmaker.

The minor leagues are probably quite easy to manipulate, and you may have also seen how games don't go fair because the referee manipulates the course of the game and some players who don't seem to be doing their job well.

Everything can be manipulated and this will be according to what the bookie wants, and with the shares owned by the football manager, then it is quite obvious that all of that is manipulated, but the current football managers are more cunning, and they will not tell whether they are involved or not.

You actually made a good point here mate. In one of my previous thread, due to the event that lead me to create the thread, I also felt that bookies sometimes influence the results of a match, maybe not for all the top leagues but some small leagues. The world is becoming too corrupt and nothing seem very impossible now. Don't be surprise that some of the football managers could actually have shares in some casinos and would try their best to help the casino in any possible way.

I don't think that bookmakers ^{(in general)} have any relevant  influence (not to mention the strong one) as it would cost them a lot of money which should cover all club losses from the potential penalties resulted from such kind of deals though the single attempts may happen in any sport. I think bookmakers may influence your bet on a match ^{(by their their sometimes biased odds)} rather than the outcome of that match.