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March 18, 2017, 07:05:27 AM
i know of entities, i dont believe in god..

Believing in God means what? If it means to believe in the existence of God, the proof and evidence of God's existence are expressed here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

If believing in God means to believe what He says, because you already know that He exists, then study about the miraculous way the Bible came into being, and what it does, so that you can see that the Bible couldn't exist without God having guided it.

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BADecker principle rule number 1:
"If a point of discussion does not meet criteria of one's own belief, then ignore the context and claim it is wrong".

Therefore, your proof is wrong, so please give me proof.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riCTEhezcYw  Burden of proof lies with those who claim god exists can be found here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC7Ttc9g1u8   Answer to the first cause argument can be found here.


Wow, stats. This is exactly the thing you are doing. How do we know? I offer proof plus the same kind of rebuttal talk you offer. You only offer empty rebuttal talk, but no proof.

Thanks again for upholding the fact that God exists.

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Following your lead on how to argue a point.

So now you agree there is no proof.

Thanks again for upholding the fact that your god does not exist.

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legendary
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March 18, 2017, 06:50:23 AM
i know of entities, i dont believe in god..

Believing in God means what? If it means to believe in the existence of God, the proof and evidence of God's existence are expressed here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

If believing in God means to believe what He says, because you already know that He exists, then study about the miraculous way the Bible came into being, and what it does, so that you can see that the Bible couldn't exist without God having guided it.

Cool

BADecker principle rule number 1:
"If a point of discussion does not meet criteria of one's own belief, then ignore the context and claim it is wrong".

Therefore, your proof is wrong, so please give me proof.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riCTEhezcYw  Burden of proof lies with those who claim god exists can be found here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC7Ttc9g1u8   Answer to the first cause argument can be found here.


Wow, stats. This is exactly the thing you are doing. How do we know? I offer proof plus the same kind of rebuttal talk you offer. You only offer empty rebuttal talk, but no proof.

Thanks again for upholding the fact that God exists.

Cool
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March 18, 2017, 01:29:15 AM
I believe. The question is if God believes in me  Huh

God doesn't have to believe in you. He knows everything about you... E V E R Y T H I N G. But, He does have hope that you will come to salvation.

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You sound like the guy who wrote the piece about how Jesus spent time alone in the dessert and nobody saw it.  Yet he wrote about it.

You know what God knows.  Maybe because God and his wishes and wants are all in your head.
If you judge by your words, and about what you said, as if all that someone believes or hears God in his head, he can be mentally ill. But this is not so. It's one thing schizophrenia, and quite another, this is what a person feels heart and soul. God is in the soul and not in the head of man.
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March 18, 2017, 01:06:28 AM
i know of entities, i dont believe in god..

Believing in God means what? If it means to believe in the existence of God, the proof and evidence of God's existence are expressed here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

If believing in God means to believe what He says, because you already know that He exists, then study about the miraculous way the Bible came into being, and what it does, so that you can see that the Bible couldn't exist without God having guided it.

Cool

BADecker principle rule number 1:
"If a point of discussion does not meet criteria of one's own belief, then ignore the context and claim it is wrong".

Therefore, your proof is wrong, so please give me proof.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riCTEhezcYw  Burden of proof lies with those who claim god exists can be found here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC7Ttc9g1u8   Answer to the first cause argument can be found here.
legendary
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March 17, 2017, 04:40:05 PM
i know of entities, i dont believe in god..

Believing in God means what? If it means to believe in the existence of God, the proof and evidence of God's existence are expressed here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

If believing in God means to believe what He says, because you already know that He exists, then study about the miraculous way the Bible came into being, and what it does, so that you can see that the Bible couldn't exist without God having guided it.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
March 17, 2017, 04:37:12 PM
I believe. The question is if God believes in me  Huh

God doesn't have to believe in you. He knows everything about you... E V E R Y T H I N G. But, He does have hope that you will come to salvation.

Cool

You sound like the guy who wrote the piece about how Jesus spent time alone in the dessert and nobody saw it.  Yet he wrote about it.

You know what God knows.  Maybe because God and his wishes and wants are all in your head.

The Spirit of God told that guy, through miraculous revelation... and told him to write it down, as well.

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newbie
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March 17, 2017, 02:08:26 PM
i know of entities, i dont believe in god..
legendary
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Merit: 1373
March 17, 2017, 10:22:33 AM
I believe. The question is if God believes in me  Huh

God doesn't have to believe in you. He knows everything about you... E V E R Y T H I N G. But, He does have hope that you will come to salvation.

Cool
legendary
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Merit: 1373
March 17, 2017, 10:20:33 AM
I know there is a God. I am a Catholic but some stories on the bible I don't believe. Sometimes I ask myself, is God a powerful being or is it just like a metaphor for the universe. Still I have too many questions about God that I know that there is no answer.

How do you know?

Thanks, af_newbie. You are helping people to pinpoint the thing that proves to them that God exists: nature and the universe. Many people haven't put into words exactly why they know that God exists. But you are making them think. They will finally put it into words for themselves. So, thanks.

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March 17, 2017, 10:19:38 AM
I believe. The question is if God believes in me  Huh
legendary
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March 17, 2017, 10:18:17 AM
Religion is the greatest deception. However, people want to deceive ourselves. Maybe it's because they're cowards and want to shift responsibility for their lives to someone else?

However, when you state this, especially if you know the definition of religion, you have a deceptive religion going there for yourself. You need to unite with others who believe the same as you do, and make your religion strong.

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March 17, 2017, 07:58:15 AM
Religion is the greatest deception. However, people want to deceive ourselves. Maybe it's because they're cowards and want to shift responsibility for their lives to someone else?
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March 17, 2017, 07:45:16 AM
believe god is the shape of one's faith to his god. the question is they who do not have a religion, people who do not have a religion believes in what? because I'm sure the people who have a religion they believe in the existence of god.
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March 16, 2017, 10:03:10 PM
I know there is a God. I am a Catholic but some stories on the bible I don't believe. Sometimes I ask myself, is God a powerful being or is it just like a metaphor for the universe. Still I have too many questions about God that I know that there is no answer.
legendary
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March 16, 2017, 06:47:50 PM

That is the classical definition of "God of the gaps".  You don't understand something and you immediately fill that gap in your understanding with God.

There are probably an infinite number of universes, all with different physical constants.  We are in a much smaller set of universes that have physical constants that allow for the formation of atoms.  We are in this one.
New universes are probably born as I type this post.

The argument that the universe is too complex for it to exist on its own is the same as the argument that human body is too complicated to evolve on its own.  Typical argument given by Religiotards is the human eye.

However, when someone actually looks at the evolutionary evidence, you will find that we did evolve from a much simpler life forms.  The human eye is a result of that.

Just because you don't understand something it does not mean that your imaginary friend did it.

PS.  Don't feel bad.  Newton, probably the smartest man of his time, did make the same mistake,  among other things about gravity and mass interactions.  He filled the gap in his understanding with God.  I bet if
he lived today he'd be an atheist.

Before you can suggest that God is a god of the gaps, you have to know what the gaps are and are not.

Cause and effect goes back to the Beginning without any gaps. So, where are the gaps? The gaps are in the knowledge and thinking of mankind. Why? Because man can barely trace cause and effect activity back a short distance. The gaps are in man, not God.

God is the One who set cause and effect in place. Man is the one who is so ignorant that he thinks he sees gaps.

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March 16, 2017, 05:54:57 PM
i think is just as simple as do you trust it or not?? if you trust or we say believe it then it have
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March 16, 2017, 04:08:54 PM
Yes i do believe in god especially when exams are near and i had hardly studied anything!!!! and worst of all it's maths exam...then it's 1000% gauranteed that i will remember god that day 100000000 times or even more
You may be funny, but all people turn to God only when they are ill or when they want something. In other cases, God does not need anyone. Man is a greedy creature.
legendary
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March 16, 2017, 08:47:22 AM
yes, i believe in god because god is creator all nature universal end My place ask protection.
You saw how he did? I don't believe in God. There is no evidence of its existence. On the contrary, all of modern science proves the opposite. Common sense tells me that there is no God.

You are wrong. The below links show you the science that proves God exists. The things that the science DOESN'T show are most of the details about the nature of God.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380

Cool
Do all the mechanisms work on the ground by the laws of nature, but what does God. Nature is our environment. The man also part of nature. And God is a part of folklore and not more than that.

I realize it is difficult to understand the science.    Cool
To understand science is not difficult. On the contrary there everything is clear. There are laws of physics which are subject to all. As for God here on the contrary there are no facts, only stories. Do you believe that God made Adam from clay and eve from Adam's rib?

You might be saying science, but you are talking religion.

Everything operates by cause and effect. This is science law. Cause and effect shows us that after thousands of years, we have complexity through one thing causing another, which causes another. There is no random. Everything is caused precisely according to the laws of science. Entropy shows a beginning had to have happened. This is science law. Whatever could play the "pool game" of cause and effect on countless numbers of particles and waves of energy in the universe, to produce the complexity we see in intelligence, fits our description/definition of "God."

Cool

God of the gaps again?  It sure is not Zeus or your Jesus zombie.

Not at all. There aren't any gaps in cause and effect. Cause and effect is direct action all the time. It is science law. No gaps at all. God is real.

Cool

Correct..... there are no gaps in cause and effect. So who created your God?

When you know a little about science, then you might be able to talk about God with a little understanding.

When you start to understand that you can't even think properly about God because He is outside of the universe as well as within it, then you just might realize that the idea of creating God is an improper idea.

Cool

There are many, many things in this universe that are beyond our scope of understanding. And God is one. We can't see him but we still believe in him, or have faith. The universe appears to be finely tuned, and it required a fine-tuner who else did it, but God alone. And the existence of the Universe will also proved that there is a universal God.



That is the classical definition of "God of the gaps".  You don't understand something and you immediately fill that gap in your understanding with God.

There are probably an infinite number of universes, all with different physical constants.  We are in a much smaller set of universes that have physical constants that allow for the formation of atoms.  We are in this one.
New universes are probably born as I type this post.

The argument that the universe is too complex for it to exist on its own is the same as the argument that human body is too complicated to evolve on its own.  Typical argument given by Religiotards is the human eye.

However, when someone actually looks at the evolutionary evidence, you will find that we did evolve from a much simpler life forms.  The human eye is a result of that.

Just because you don't understand something it does not mean that your imaginary friend did it.

PS.  Don't feel bad.  Newton, probably the smartest man of his time, did make the same mistake,  among other things about gravity and mass interactions.  He filled the gap in his understanding with God.  I bet if
he lived today he'd be an atheist.
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March 16, 2017, 05:23:04 AM
yes, i believe in god because god is creator all nature universal end My place ask protection.
You saw how he did? I don't believe in God. There is no evidence of its existence. On the contrary, all of modern science proves the opposite. Common sense tells me that there is no God.

You are wrong. The below links show you the science that proves God exists. The things that the science DOESN'T show are most of the details about the nature of God.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380

Cool
Do all the mechanisms work on the ground by the laws of nature, but what does God. Nature is our environment. The man also part of nature. And God is a part of folklore and not more than that.

I realize it is difficult to understand the science.    Cool
To understand science is not difficult. On the contrary there everything is clear. There are laws of physics which are subject to all. As for God here on the contrary there are no facts, only stories. Do you believe that God made Adam from clay and eve from Adam's rib?

You might be saying science, but you are talking religion.

Everything operates by cause and effect. This is science law. Cause and effect shows us that after thousands of years, we have complexity through one thing causing another, which causes another. There is no random. Everything is caused precisely according to the laws of science. Entropy shows a beginning had to have happened. This is science law. Whatever could play the "pool game" of cause and effect on countless numbers of particles and waves of energy in the universe, to produce the complexity we see in intelligence, fits our description/definition of "God."

Cool

God of the gaps again?  It sure is not Zeus or your Jesus zombie.

Not at all. There aren't any gaps in cause and effect. Cause and effect is direct action all the time. It is science law. No gaps at all. God is real.

Cool

Correct..... there are no gaps in cause and effect. So who created your God?

When you know a little about science, then you might be able to talk about God with a little understanding.

When you start to understand that you can't even think properly about God because He is outside of the universe as well as within it, then you just might realize that the idea of creating God is an improper idea.

Cool

You are not showing proof.

Show me proof of the existence of your God.
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March 16, 2017, 05:21:23 AM
yes, i believe in god because god is creator all nature universal end My place ask protection.
You saw how he did? I don't believe in God. There is no evidence of its existence. On the contrary, all of modern science proves the opposite. Common sense tells me that there is no God.

You are wrong. The below links show you the science that proves God exists. The things that the science DOESN'T show are most of the details about the nature of God.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380

Cool

BADecker principle rule number 1:
"If a point of discussion does not meet criteria of one's own belief, then ignore the context and claim it is wrong".

Therefore, your proof is wrong, so please give me proof.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riCTEhezcYw  Burden of proof lies with those who claim god exists can be found here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC7Ttc9g1u8   Answer to the first cause argument can be found here.


The proof is scientific proof that virtually all scientists are familiar with. Refute and rebut their proof if you can.

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You are using scientific evidence and assuming it reaches a verdict of God.

Show me a link which says... God exists.
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