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September 03, 2016, 03:25:27 PM
Yes, I believe in God, but not in a way it is known by Man. I believe there is a all powerful higher beings watching us. Time is time is irrelevant to them and they are immortal. They came from Level maybe Level 4 or 5 Civilization. They are controlling us no matter we like it or not.
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September 03, 2016, 03:17:03 PM
Well, ask yourself about yourself. Imagine that you are a cab driver. You give a couple of guys a ride to a fast food place with the instruction to wait for them to get lunch, and then to take them on to another destination. They rob the fast food place. You don't know it. Are you a crook for earning a living, especially since you didn't know what they were doing?

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I told you before, the cab driver thing doesn't work, because the cab driver isn't omnipotent.
Now if God was the cab driver, he would know full well in advance what the guys would do. If he was happy with them doing it, he would give them a ride, if not then he wouldn't.
But you conveniently forget the part where both the O.T. and Jesus said that we are gods. God made us so great that we have some God-like capabilities. God made us so great as to have free will that He can't entirely outguess. But this free will is in the strength of our faith.




God, with good and right intentions, made people to be righteous. People could have remained righteous. The fact that they didn't isn't God's fault. If God had forced them into being unable to sin, they would not have had freedom, and they would not be people.

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God obviously designed people so they can sin. So yes, it's his fault people sin.
Why just not invent sin in the first place?  Huh
But God also designed people so that they didn't have to sin, and he commanded them not to. So, it was people who decided to sin when they were told not to.

Then, to make sure that people didn't have an excuse like you are trying to use, God made a way out for people, but people rejected the way out willingly, just like you are doing. You have no excuse.




Are you afraid to accept His salvation where there is forgiveness for the sins?

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Loaded question. You've presupposed that I need salvation.
The fact that you continually speak against God, shows that you need salvation from His anger against you for the way you talk. The fact that you are able to exist for even a moment after speaking against God shows that you have this salvation temporarily. But if you don't acknowledge Jesus, your Savior, you will lose any salvation that you have, when you die.




In the New Universe God is creating, there will be none of the pains and problems any longer. There will only be joy. Everything in this universe and life will be forgotten forever by those who go to the New Universe God is making.

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Well, let's hope he doesn't use rotten wood and dodgy nails this time round.
God didn't use anything imperfect the first time. The second time will only be for those people who have placed themselves under His dominion, voluntarily, while living here. So, when He takes away the will to sin in the afterlife, He will simply be doing as everyone who joins Him has asked Him to do. Those who don't ask Him to do it will perish with this universe.




When you get to the quagmire of everlasting destruction that Hell is, remember that you are the one who didn't accept the way out.

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Better than brown nosing.
But it won't feel better in Hell. Your choice, however.




He sent me to you to warn you, and probably other people as well.

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The only people that has sent you are the religious elite, with their manufactured artifical threat.
Well, if it makes you feel important.  Roll Eyes
The proof will be in the resurrection. But think well. It doesn't hurt me much to be religious if there is no resurrection. But it will hurt you greatly if there is and you haven't changed.




But you, of your own free will, didn't listen. Turn and be saved while you have the chance.

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Can't do that. No free will remember.
We don't even have free will.

We don't have free will in the things of life. We do have partial free will regarding our faith in God. Then God looks at our faith, and adjusts life according to the way our free will faith suggests. No free will in the things of life, but free will in a portion of our faith strength.

Consider this parable that Jesus told. From Luke 13:6-9:
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6 Then he told this parable: “A man had a fig tree, planted in his vineyard, and he went to look for fruit on it, but did not find any.

7 So he said to the man who took care of the vineyard, ‘For three years now I’ve been coming to look for fruit on this fig tree and haven’t found any. Cut it down! Why should it use up the soil?’

8 “ ‘Sir,’ the man replied, ‘leave it alone for one more year, and I’ll dig around it and fertilize it.

9 If it bears fruit next year, fine! If not, then cut it down.’ ”

Jesus is watering you and fertilizing you through the things I am telling you. But if you don't produce fruits of faith within the time allotted to you, you will be cut down and thrown into Hell.

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legendary
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September 03, 2016, 02:52:53 PM
Well, ask yourself about yourself. Imagine that you are a cab driver. You give a couple of guys a ride to a fast food place with the instruction to wait for them to get lunch, and then to take them on to another destination. They rob the fast food place. You don't know it. Are you a crook for earning a living, especially since you didn't know what they were doing?

Cool
I told you before, the cab driver thing doesn't work, because the cab driver isn't omnipotent.
Now if God was the cab driver, he would know full well in advance what the guys would do. If he was happy with them doing it, he would give them a ride, if not then he wouldn't.


God, with good and right intentions, made people to be righteous. People could have remained righteous. The fact that they didn't isn't God's fault. If God had forced them into being unable to sin, they would not have had freedom, and they would not be people.

Cool
God obviously designed people so they can sin. So yes, it's his fault people sin.
Why just not invent sin in the first place?  Huh


Are you afraid to accept His salvation where there is forgiveness for the sins?

Cool
Loaded question. You've presupposed that I need salvation.


In the New Universe God is creating, there will be none of the pains and problems any longer. There will only be joy. Everything in this universe and life will be forgotten forever by those who go to the New Universe God is making.

Cool
Well, let's hope he doesn't use rotten wood and dodgy nails this time round.


When you get to the quagmire of everlasting destruction that Hell is, remember that you are the one who didn't accept the way out.

Cool
Better than brown nosing.


He sent me to you to warn you, and probably other people as well.

Cool
The only people that has sent you are the religious elite, with their manufactured artifical threat.
Well, if it makes you feel important.  Roll Eyes


But you, of your own free will, didn't listen. Turn and be saved while you have the chance.

Cool
Can't do that. No free will remember.
We don't even have free will.







legendary
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September 02, 2016, 09:22:18 PM
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September 02, 2016, 09:10:05 PM
Why is there no option for ALIENS?!?

I think we will find evidence of aliens before evidence of any god (as described by religions)

Who says there is not such an option? Perhaps it is simply your conception that is lacking.

Non native life may simply be far more advanced then we can imagine entities of pure consciousness pure spirit. In the words of your forefathers Trancendental beings.

Talking about the poll you retard... wtf do you think I'm talking about?

Why are christians so stupid?

Don't treat all Christians the same, just as non Christians are different from one another. Just a little respect. Anyway there are no need for arguments when we talk about God, it is not in the sphere of knowledge but in the sphere of faith. We don't get anything from debating why don't we just act morally and respect each other, that way all could be united, Christians or not.
legendary
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September 02, 2016, 08:52:50 PM
Why are christians so stupid?

Who said anything about Christians I have not.

But I am genuinely curious if you are willing to share what led you to abandon the faith of your ancestors?
legendary
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September 02, 2016, 07:55:24 PM
Why is there no option for ALIENS?!?

I think we will find evidence of aliens before evidence of any god (as described by religions)

Who says there is not such an option? Perhaps it is simply your conception that is lacking.

Non native life may simply be far more advanced then we can imagine entities of pure consciousness pure spirit. In the words of your forefathers Trancendental beings.

Talking about the poll you retard... wtf do you think I'm talking about?

Why are christians so stupid?

Love the way you express yourself. All that gay sex is making your brain to be more and more retarded every day, right?

Considering every insult you make is psychological projection, I assume you are gay? (not that there is anything wrong with that) (but I hear, god hates fags)

Seems like you are admitting to it. That's one way for you to take time off from thinking logically.

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September 02, 2016, 07:46:20 PM
Why is there no option for ALIENS?!?

I think we will find evidence of aliens before evidence of any god (as described by religions)

Who says there is not such an option? Perhaps it is simply your conception that is lacking.

Non native life may simply be far more advanced then we can imagine entities of pure consciousness pure spirit. In the words of your forefathers Trancendental beings.

Talking about the poll you retard... wtf do you think I'm talking about?

Why are christians so stupid?

Love the way you express yourself. All that gay sex is making your brain to be more and more retarded every day, right?

Considering every insult you make is psychological projection, I assume you are gay? (not that there is anything wrong with that) (but I hear, god hates fags)
legendary
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September 02, 2016, 07:29:46 PM
Why is there no option for ALIENS?!?

I think we will find evidence of aliens before evidence of any god (as described by religions)

Who says there is not such an option? Perhaps it is simply your conception that is lacking.

Non native life may simply be far more advanced then we can imagine entities of pure consciousness pure spirit. In the words of your forefathers Trancendental beings.

Talking about the poll you retard... wtf do you think I'm talking about?

Why are christians so stupid?

Love the way you express yourself. All that gay sex is making your brain to be more and more retarded every day, right?

Cool
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September 02, 2016, 07:27:57 PM
Why is there no option for ALIENS?!?

I think we will find evidence of aliens before evidence of any god (as described by religions)

Who says there is not such an option? Perhaps it is simply your conception that is lacking.

Non native life may simply be far more advanced then we can imagine entities of pure consciousness pure spirit. In the words of your forefathers Trancendental beings.

Talking about the poll you retard... wtf do you think I'm talking about?

Why are christians so stupid?
legendary
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September 02, 2016, 07:02:46 PM


There is but only the immanent, and the wishful to not be such, or maybe be [much] more than what seems immanently possible - this I call "transcendent", a magnificent stretching of what and who I am.


Transcendence barely works at all. It often lies to the imagination of its practicer, that it is doing something. But it dies right along with those who practice it.

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September 02, 2016, 06:51:39 PM


There is but only the immanent, and the wishful to not be such, or maybe be [much] more than what seems immanently possible - this I call "transcendent", a magnificent stretching of what and who I am.



legendary
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September 02, 2016, 06:15:11 PM
Why is there no option for ALIENS?!?

I think we will find evidence of aliens before evidence of any god (as described by religions)

Who says there is not such an option? Perhaps it is simply your conception that is lacking.

Non native life may simply be far more advanced then we can imagine entities of pure consciousness pure spirit. In the words of your forefathers Trancendental beings.

Besides, talking about aliens is simply a distraction.

If aliens made people into what they are, who made the aliens to be what they are?

We don't have anything but a tiny bit of evidence that aliens had anything to do with anything. At the same time, we have the eye witness reports of the Bible about what has happened in history.

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legendary
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September 02, 2016, 06:11:46 PM
Ofcourse I believe in God because he is our savior. He is always here for us to save us from harm. All we need to do is to praise whenever we are or what ever we do. God also give us leaders who guides to become a better man. God gave us parents who take care us when we are not matured. And also God gaves us talent, skills and knowledge so that we can engage in several problems in this world. So love God and put God first.

Are you absolutely sure about all that?

We truly live in an era of smart phones and stupid people.

*snip 4 images proving God doesn't give a shit about the welfare of little children*


God doesn't do the above pictures. People do. If you hate this poverty so much, give more to helping these people, and to replacing governments that let or make it happen.

Cool

There you go again, cherrypicking what your god is or isn't responsible for.  Roll Eyes
Either your god is responsible for everything, or your god is responsible for nothing. You can't pick and choose to your liking, that's absurd.


Well, ask yourself about yourself. Imagine that you are a cab driver. You give a couple of guys a ride to a fast food place with the instruction to wait for them to get lunch, and then to take them on to another destination. They rob the fast food place. You don't know it. Are you a crook for earning a living, especially since you didn't know what they were doing?


God, with good and right intentions, made people to be righteous. People could have remained righteous. The fact that they didn't isn't God's fault. If God had forced them into being unable to sin, they would not have had freedom, and they would not be people.

Why do you want to place the blame on God when it isn't His fault? Are you afraid to accept His salvation where there is forgiveness for the sins?

In the New Universe God is creating, there will be none of the pains and problems any longer. There will only be joy. Everything in this universe and life will be forgotten forever by those who go to the New Universe God is making.

When you get to the quagmire of everlasting destruction that Hell is, remember that you are the one who didn't accept the way out. It wasn't God's doing. He sent me to you to warn you, and probably other people as well. But you, of your own free will, didn't listen. Turn and be saved while you have the chance.

Cool
legendary
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September 02, 2016, 05:21:54 PM
Why is there no option for ALIENS?!?

I think we will find evidence of aliens before evidence of any god (as described by religions)

Who says there is not such an option? Perhaps it is simply your conception that is lacking.

Non native life may simply be far more advanced then we can imagine entities of pure consciousness pure spirit. In the words of your forefathers Trancendental beings.
legendary
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September 02, 2016, 04:50:23 PM
Ofcourse I believe in God because he is our savior. He is always here for us to save us from harm. All we need to do is to praise whenever we are or what ever we do. God also give us leaders who guides to become a better man. God gave us parents who take care us when we are not matured. And also God gaves us talent, skills and knowledge so that we can engage in several problems in this world. So love God and put God first.

Are you absolutely sure about all that?

We truly live in an era of smart phones and stupid people.

*snip 4 images proving God doesn't give a shit about the welfare of little children*


God doesn't do the above pictures. People do. If you hate this poverty so much, give more to helping these people, and to replacing governments that let or make it happen.

Cool

There you go again, cherrypicking what your god is or isn't responsible for.  Roll Eyes
Either your god is responsible for everything, or your god is responsible for nothing. You can't pick and choose to your liking, that's absurd.




legendary
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Soon, I have to go away.
September 02, 2016, 04:25:35 PM
^

This baddecker fellow keeps butting into my posts, even though he is on my ignore list.
What is ignore list for, if he keeps on quoting me, without my permission. it seems he has to get the last word in any way he can.

I am going to report him, but dont see the report button as I do see his posts anymore, how to make him stop this, his is clearly breaking the ignore rule.
I enjoy this forum better now I do not see him, I think he is trolling my posts without permission to do so.

This dekker man is one dangerous individual, him some kind of stalker imo.
I am sure he is breaking some local forum rule.
legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
September 02, 2016, 04:12:42 PM
Ofcourse I believe in God because he is our savior. He is always here for us to save us from harm. All we need to do is to praise whenever we are or what ever we do. God also give us leaders who guides to become a better man. God gave us parents who take care us when we are not matured. And also God gaves us talent, skills and knowledge so that we can engage in several problems in this world. So love God and put God first.

Are you absolutely sure about all that?

We truly live in an era of smart phones and stupid people.

*snip 4 images proving God doesn't give a shit about the welfare of little children*


God doesn't do the above pictures. People do. If you hate this poverty so much, give more to helping these people, and to replacing governments that let or make it happen.

Cool


As I've said to you before, I wasn't talking to you. (you're just like a nosy Christian old woman, butting in where you don't belong)

If you read the quotes from possibly the only other person on this forum more clueless than you, those quotes are wrong. God doesn't save us from harm and he doesn't give us leaders that help. He does jack shit to help anyone. In fact, if you have to keep making excuses for him like, "man is responsible for all that - God only does good stuffs like, um, um like make the stars that shine down harmful radiation and shit" then there is no God other than the one that lives in that fruit loop you call a brain.
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September 02, 2016, 03:51:04 PM
Why is there no option for ALIENS?!?



I think we will find evidence of aliens before evidence of any god (as described by religions)
legendary
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September 02, 2016, 11:11:16 AM
Yes, I believe in one God, Heavenly, universal parent of all people in the world, Parent of Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindu, White, black and yellow, African, European etc.
I believe that almighty God love us all equally, rich and poor, small and big...
Unfortunately, many people talking about God in the terns. ''My God'' and ''my heaven'' or ''my salvation'' what is wrong.
Can parent love one child more than other?
Any parent know the answer Smiley


God made all the heathen peoples, and all those who don't believe in Jesus salvation. God loves them just like He loves His own, those who DO believe in Jesus salvation. God wants all people to believe in Jesus salvation so that they can be saved. But if they don't come to believe in Jesus salvation, they will be lost. God weeps over the lost.

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