Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? - page 44.

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Quote from: n0ne on July 28, 2023, 07:49:28 PM

Just think of a situation that there is no money involvement into gambling. What will be number of people using it, for the purpose of fun or to get excitement. It is all about the money that is connected with the gambling activity that lets you to be more interested into it. Everyone are into gambling for money except few people who have got sufficient money, but for some sort of thrill and excitement they've tasted in gambling. Anyhow the money making process depending on luck is another factor that makes people show much interest, if it is much about learning and executing maybe there'll be less users around.

That's the point, money makes it interesting, and there is a potential win which could actually be a very huge amount like you said if not for the win am very sure that a lot of people will not be involved in gambling and people have seen gambling has a very big opportunity to make free money, I know people get lucky when gambling but majority become addicts out of greed, I wonder why you gamble with a little amount of money to win a big bag and that is the perception that the industry is using and is good business, reducing greed can make you have constant wins, and like I said I noticed something about the rich they gamble to discuss business with there fellow businessmen in casinos at least that makes it interesting.

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That is the essence of the question. Yes money is used to gamble and like you rightly said we need money to gamble, that means if you don't have money to gamble then you wouldn't, so do you gamble because you want to have money ? Because some people gamble as a reason to have money. Such people gamble as a source of income, they belong to a certain class of people with the mindset of grabbing wealth from gambling. They don't have wealth and they believe to make it through gambling.

More precisely maybe he wants to make money the easiest way, namely by gambling, because gambling is easier to do and the victory offered gets a huge profit even with a small modal, thus encouraging it to do gambling and make money from it.

You think gambling is easy to make money from? I don't think that way myself. The profit that is offered is the potential profit if you win. I know that people win in gambling but the percentage of the people who lose is more than those winning. You can know this from the little knowledge of people in your environment. If you rely on gambling to make your living, you may not get that absolutely, using small money to aim for big profit isn't realistic in a consistent way.

That's the way they think about gambling, and Apanila has gained a big victory they enter the phase that they have confidence that gambling can give a victory that can be made as a place to pit luck, but they do it massively so that it triggers addiction and loss a lot of money, I have you Thinking the same as you that it's not easy.

Yes, it's not realistic and however you play it is not an ethical thing to make a living in gambling, whether using small money or large money is not a place where you can get a consistent income from it.

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Rich people are often addicted to gambling to pass the time, but many rich people including themselves in gambling either because of their addiction or to earn more money. But it may be different for poor and middle class people. They usually spend most of their time gambling to get rich or because of excessive greed. But there could be many reasons why middle class and poor people gamble more than rich people, but the most common reason is that middle class and poor people are more greedy and spend more time gambling to get rich and earn extra money.

There's numerous reasons why individuals indulges in gambling, there are varieties of reasons to be given. Rich influential individuals often engaged in gambling activities, they triggered good options and see gambling as an recreational activities to passed their free time. It's very important to differentiate between gambling for fun and taking it as a means of survival. While the middle class or lower keeps searching for incomes from gambling, I find it to be ridiculous because gambling profits is not steady and not reliable, we counts losses and profits from the space daily.

I agree with you on lower middle class it is foolish to look for income from gambling because no one can say the exact source of income from gambling it usually depends on luck. There is no problem with the rich because they have a lot of wealth. Even if they lose gambling, their regret is less. But it is bad for the lower class as once the loss is not recovered. When a gambler participates in regular gambling, in most cases it becomes an addiction and the incentive to try to recover the lost money when they lose and earn more money when they win puts them further into losses and this cycle has no end. This is why there is a huge difference between the rich and the poor when it comes to gambling.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on July 31, 2023, 09:05:12 AM

That's the first step to become a gambling addict because you're looking to make money through gambling when you don't have sufficient money. Maybe that money should be used for the next 2 weeks to feed your family, but since you think you can make more money, you're take the risk and very optimism you will not lose. But after 1-2 hours, you're lose all of your money and you're don't know how to recover your money when you're need that money for the next 2 weeks.

The moment a person gamble without enough money is a sign of irresponsibility. Disciplined people will not risk the money they currently have that's just exact for their necessities and the money they don't have to begin with. They won't bother loaning because they have set their priorities straight in order to avoid unnecessary troubles that may arise in the future for mismanagement of funds. There's a long list of consequences waiting to happen to those impulsive and irrational gamblers such as having financial crisis, being overly stressed, and falling into addiction. And those are just a few of the ticking bombs the time they decide to be greedy and follow what they want and not what's needed.

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Quote from: Doan9269 on July 31, 2023, 08:49:22 AM

We all might have been in need of money in one way or the other that pushed us towards seeking for more secured means to see that we are better with life challenges and the next we could thought of was to use gambling as a quick means of getting the financial opportunity needed to meet up with our needs, we may sometimes end up getting some money and may not in some cases, but all we needed is to see that our motives arrived at a good destination by seeking financial assistance through gambling as the last resulted remedy to get money from.

That's the first step to become a gambling addict because you're looking to make money through gambling when you don't have sufficient money. Maybe that money should be used for the next 2 weeks to feed your family, but since you think you can make more money, you're take the risk and very optimism you will not lose. But after 1-2 hours, you're lose all of your money and you're don't know how to recover your money when you're need that money for the next 2 weeks.

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We all might have been in need of money in one way or the other that pushed us towards seeking for more secured means to see that we are better with life challenges and the next we could thought of was to use gambling as a quick means of getting the financial opportunity needed to meet up with our needs, we may sometimes end up getting some money and may not in some cases, but all we needed is to see that our motives arrived at a good destination by seeking financial assistance through gambling as the last resulted remedy to get money from.

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Quote from: n0ne on July 28, 2023, 07:49:28 PM

Just think of a situation that there is no money involvement into gambling. What will be number of people using it, for the purpose of fun or to get excitement. It is all about the money that is connected with the gambling activity that lets you to be more interested into it. Everyone are into gambling for money except few people who have got sufficient money, but for some sort of thrill and excitement they've tasted in gambling. Anyhow the money making process depending on luck is another factor that makes people show much interest, if it is much about learning and executing maybe there'll be less users around.

We all have our targets, reasons why we wager on game. Everyone has a unique justification for gambling; I have a distinctive theory and ambition in gambling; there are several advantages I would like to get from gambling; it is usually done incrementally before tasks are completed gradually. If the right risks are not calculated, the gambling system can generate tremendous profits while simultaneously draining our accounts. Most people do not consider gambling to be a recreational activity; rather, they concentrate their efforts in order to get outcomes that are beneficial.

As long as your target is not to reach a certain number of wins, you are still fine and can gamble whenever you want. But most gamblers have a target number of wins so they will try to achieve it. They know it's not easy, but they still try it in the hope that that target will be achieved after playing a few more times. But if we don't have money and want to make money from gambling, that won't be good for us because instead of making money, we can lose money and even spend all the money we have. So don't overdo it in setting limits so we don't have trouble achieving them.

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Quote from: dezoel on July 31, 2023, 07:23:00 AM

However, that doesn't mean that a poor person should gamble to earn money, gambling is not a way to earn money at all. Most rich people gamble only to have fun, they might get addicted to it but that is not because they are chasing money through it but because they just gamble a lot.

IMO I think if you gamble alot the purpose may not be for just fun but for the purpose of multiplier. On the other side, if you are doing it for fun then you will be more relaxed and not gamble alot. People who do gamble for fun would do that for the enjoyment it gives them but they won't do that always that is the simple truth about it. Those who are wealth might do one or two gambling on their football ball teams with friends when they are on a drink but they won't allow that to be a daily phenomenon, those who gamble alot IMO are doing that for the purpose of multiplier effect.

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I presume that the rich loss more in gambling than the poor. ~

Most likely they do. But if a millionaire loses $10k to gambling it is not as painful to him as for a poor man to lose $100. And this is very important to understand. Rich or poor, you should only stake what you can afford to lose. I hope some poor people who want to get rich through gambling read my post and drop the idea. Buy a $2 lottery ticket if you want to have that hope in your heart, but don't put dozens of USD at risk.

I don't think it's like that, Rich people also lose a lot of money, I assume they use $10k as their base bet most of the time, and I also think that there are rich gambling addicts too who don't stop gambling at all and lose a lot of their wealth in it. We've always heard of stories where rich people gambled away everything they had, including their home and every other property, and now they have nowhere to go, so it happens with the rich too but it depends on their situation and condition.

However, that doesn't mean that a poor person should gamble to earn money, gambling is not a way to earn money at all. Most rich people gamble only to have fun, they might get addicted to it but that is not because they are chasing money through it but because they just gamble a lot.

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That is the essence of the question. Yes money is used to gamble and like you rightly said we need money to gamble, that means if you don't have money to gamble then you wouldn't, so do you gamble because you want to have money ? Because some people gamble as a reason to have money. Such people gamble as a source of income, they belong to a certain class of people with the mindset of grabbing wealth from gambling. They don't have wealth and they believe to make it through gambling.

More precisely maybe he wants to make money the easiest way, namely by gambling, because gambling is easier to do and the victory offered gets a huge profit even with a small modal, thus encouraging it to do gambling and make money from it.

You think gambling is easy to make money from? I don't think that way myself. The profit that is offered is the potential profit if you win. I know that people win in gambling but the percentage of the people who lose is more than those winning. You can know this from the little knowledge of people in your environment. If you rely on gambling to make your living, you may not get that absolutely, using small money to aim for big profit isn't realistic in a consistent way.

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Quote from: n0ne on July 28, 2023, 07:49:28 PM

Just think of a situation that there is no money involvement into gambling. What will be number of people using it, for the purpose of fun or to get excitement. It is all about the money that is connected with the gambling activity that lets you to be more interested into it. Everyone are into gambling for money except few people who have got sufficient money, but for some sort of thrill and excitement they've tasted in gambling. Anyhow the money making process depending on luck is another factor that makes people show much interest, if it is much about learning and executing maybe there'll be less users around.

Only a few, as we know, really want gambling because of money, but still, those who play will be the ones who really have fun with it, like playing games on your phone. There will be excitement and thrills without money, but again, only a few will play because most of their purpose is to gain money and get lucky enough to change their lives if they win big. Also, I've noticed that poor people bet more on less expensive things like the lottery to have a chance to win big.

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Quote from: n0ne on July 28, 2023, 07:49:28 PM

Just think of a situation that there is no money involvement into gambling. What will be number of people using it, for the purpose of fun or to get excitement. It is all about the money that is connected with the gambling activity that lets you to be more interested into it. Everyone are into gambling for money except few people who have got sufficient money, but for some sort of thrill and excitement they've tasted in gambling. Anyhow the money making process depending on luck is another factor that makes people show much interest, if it is much about learning and executing maybe there'll be less users around.

We all have our targets, reasons why we wager on game. Everyone has a unique justification for gambling; I have a distinctive theory and ambition in gambling; there are several advantages I would like to get from gambling; it is usually done incrementally before tasks are completed gradually. If the right risks are not calculated, the gambling system can generate tremendous profits while simultaneously draining our accounts. Most people do not consider gambling to be a recreational activity; rather, they concentrate their efforts in order to get outcomes that are beneficial.

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Quote from: n0ne on July 28, 2023, 07:49:28 PM

Just think of a situation that there is no money involvement into gambling. What will be number of people using it, for the purpose of fun or to get excitement. It is all about the money that is connected with the gambling activity that lets you to be more interested into it. Everyone are into gambling for money except few people who have got sufficient money, but for some sort of thrill and excitement they've tasted in gambling. Anyhow the money making process depending on luck is another factor that makes people show much interest, if it is much about learning and executing maybe there'll be less users around.

Exactly, how many people would be gambling if there was no money involved in gambling. Of course, no one could be found. No matter how much we say we accept gambling as a fan, but the reality is that if there was no money, there would be no fun. Many of us often recommend the use of Gambling's demo account to teach new gamblers how to gamble. But it can be seen that no one is encouraged to gamble because there is no gain or loss even if you lose much money as you like. If there was any real money related issue, it would have been used. Whether a person has enough money or not, those who like gambling will gamble. There are so many gamblers who have lot of money but they like to gamble because there is a matter of money involved.

Take away the potential for profit and gambling would lose its charm; it would be no more than a hollow pastime.

Yet, isnt this true for all risk-taking activities? Humans are wired to seek rewards and avoid losses, and its this very instinct that fuels our appetite for risk. Gambling simply presents a more direct and immediate way to satisfy this instinct.

And yes, demo accounts may seem unexciting due to the absence of real money. But lets not forget their true purpose: to serve as a safe and risk-free training ground for newcomers. Gambling with actual money without proper training is akin to diving head-first into a pool without knowing how to swim; the outcome is predictable.

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Quote from: GigaBit on July 30, 2023, 03:19:08 PM

Quote from: n0ne on July 28, 2023, 07:49:28 PM

Just think of a situation that there is no money involvement into gambling. What will be number of people using it, for the purpose of fun or to get excitement. It is all about the money that is connected with the gambling activity that lets you to be more interested into it. Everyone are into gambling for money except few people who have got sufficient money, but for some sort of thrill and excitement they've tasted in gambling. Anyhow the money making process depending on luck is another factor that makes people show much interest, if it is much about learning and executing maybe there'll be less users around.

Exactly, how many people would be gambling if there was no money involved in gambling. Of course, no one could be found. No matter how much we say we accept gambling as a fan, but the reality is that if there was no money, there would be no fun. Many of us often recommend the use of Gambling's demo account to teach new gamblers how to gamble. But it can be seen that no one is encouraged to gamble because there is no gain or loss even if you lose much money as you like. If there was any real money related issue, it would have been used. Whether a person has enough money or not, those who like gambling will gamble. There are so many gamblers who have lot of money but they like to gamble because there is a matter of money involved.

Someone who is rich has a lot of money gambling for fun and someone who has only a little money they gamble for more money, that is simple.
Most of the people in their gambling certainly think of gambling as fun about getting big multipliers or doubling the money but in reality not all gamblers think about money but also just to have fun.
But if it's just for fun using demo mode it's actually better but the dissatisfaction of using demo money is not like using real money so they prefer to use real money to entertain themselves.
From this story I remember something my friend did he was not rich and didn't have so much money but he said he gambled for fun but in reality he said honestly if he actually wanted more money from gambling so I conclude that sometimes people say have fun in gambling only cover shame and they gamble only to get money

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Quote from: n0ne on July 28, 2023, 07:49:28 PM

Just think of a situation that there is no money involvement into gambling. What will be number of people using it, for the purpose of fun or to get excitement. It is all about the money that is connected with the gambling activity that lets you to be more interested into it. Everyone are into gambling for money except few people who have got sufficient money, but for some sort of thrill and excitement they've tasted in gambling. Anyhow the money making process depending on luck is another factor that makes people show much interest, if it is much about learning and executing maybe there'll be less users around.

Exactly, how many people would be gambling if there was no money involved in gambling. Of course, no one could be found. No matter how much we say we accept gambling as a fan, but the reality is that if there was no money, there would be no fun. Many of us often recommend the use of Gambling's demo account to teach new gamblers how to gamble. But it can be seen that no one is encouraged to gamble because there is no gain or loss even if you lose much money as you like. If there was any real money related issue, it would have been used. Whether a person has enough money or not, those who like gambling will gamble. There are so many gamblers who have lot of money but they like to gamble because there is a matter of money involved.

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Quote from: shogun47 on July 29, 2023, 04:41:35 PM

But what do you think if someone earned 10 million with gambling and then loses 5 million, it would still be smart to stop right there, but again what do you think how many stop gambling then? I think it's not many.

Most of them returned to gambling to get more, because he had gotten and felt that gambling could give it a large amount of money, and yes the mindset would be the reason why gambling for him was worthy as a place to earn income.

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I was in argument with someone. His view is that people who gamble are those that what they have is not sufficient for them and so they try to make more money from gambling. He said if you have sufficient money to take care of your needs that you won't think of gambling. He made reference to some rich people, who don't gamble because they have sufficient money to even gift to charity but that those rich who still gamble are only addicted to it not just because of the money. Therefore, that the percentage of the rich gambling is very small compared to those in middle class and lower class.

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?

First of all, we need money to gamble.

That is the essence of the question. Yes money is used to gamble and like you rightly said we need money to gamble, that means if you don't have money to gamble then you wouldn't, so do you gamble because you want to have money ? Because some people gamble as a reason to have money. Such people gamble as a source of income, they belong to a certain class of people with the mindset of grabbing wealth from gambling. They don't have wealth and they believe to make it through gambling.

More precisely maybe he wants to make money the easiest way, namely by gambling, because gambling is easier to do and the victory offered gets a huge profit even with a small modal, thus encouraging it to do gambling and make money from it.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on July 21, 2023, 10:47:05 AM

I was in argument with someone. His view is that people who gamble are those that what they have is not sufficient for them and so they try to make more money from gambling. He said if you have sufficient money to take care of your needs that you won't think of gambling. He made reference to some rich people, who don't gamble because they have sufficient money to even gift to charity but that those rich who still gamble are only addicted to it not just because of the money. Therefore, that the percentage of the rich gambling is very small compared to those in middle class and lower class.

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?

First of all, we need money to gamble.

That is the essence of the question. Yes money is used to gamble and like you rightly said we need money to gamble, that means if you don't have money to gamble then you wouldn't, so do you gamble because you want to have money ? Because some people gamble as a reason to have money. Such people gamble as a source of income, they belong to a certain class of people with the mindset of grabbing wealth from gambling. They don't have wealth and they believe to make it through gambling.

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An interesting turn in all of this is that some people who became rich through gambling also became poor again through gambling. The story of these professional gamblers becoming rich was often sold to the public as if you put enough effort into it, you can become rich playing poker for example. But the reality is that some of those poker superstars who had been said to have become rich playing poker went broke later on. Is it because they had the tendency to risk too much from the beginning but gut lucky for quite some time? Or maybe there was a lot of manipulation involved and specifically in online games the tables were rigged in favor of some celebrities.

Actually it's not common to all,it happen to the person who ready to spend entire things in gambling.Which he get from the gambling,it's not the correct approach.You should use the money you get from gambling into the trading.Because,when you play the gambling with the positive emotion,you will deposit the high amount to the casino website.You also do the high bet,when you win huge amount in the previous bet.The poker itself enough to the person to win huge amount in the short period.But play the minimum amount of poker to avoid of loss.The worst move done by the gambler is,they will repeat the same game many time.If they gt huge amount of winning money from the certain game.This must be avoided by the gambler to avoid of big loss.

It depends, it can also happen to people who happen to be very lucky for quite a long time, which makes them think that they actually have a skill that is superior compared to others. Once the losing streak begins, they repeatedly doubt the losing streak can keep going for long as they have first learned because of wrong impressions that they are in control of the game. In poker that happened because the environment changed a lot over time when more people got to know the basics and could also use bots in online poker.

But what do you think if someone earned 10 million with gambling and then loses 5 million, it would still be smart to stop right there, but again what do you think how many stop gambling then? I think it's not many.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on July 21, 2023, 10:47:05 AM

I was in argument with someone. His view is that people who gamble are those that what they have is not sufficient for them and so they try to make more money from gambling. He said if you have sufficient money to take care of your needs that you won't think of gambling. He made reference to some rich people, who don't gamble because they have sufficient money to even gift to charity but that those rich who still gamble are only addicted to it not just because of the money. Therefore, that the percentage of the rich gambling is very small compared to those in middle class and lower class.

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?

First of all, we need money to gamble. So if a person is very poor or he does not have spare funds to gamble, then he can't gamble.
For those who can afford to gamble their motive is to increase their wealth without doing any hard work. The thought process is the same for the middle class or the rich gamblers. Both of them want to increase their wealth.

There may be exceptions with some of the very rich gamblers, they may gamble only for fun and not worried about losing the money.

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Quote from: salad daging on July 21, 2023, 11:23:32 AM

The rich man does not rely in gambling there are still other sources that become his income, he knows how to earn money healthily without gambling games, but that's most of the rich people prefer on their business/investment to generate not from gambling.

But this rich man shouldn't be too confident because in one wrong move he can become addicted and ruin his business finances. We have read and watch documentaries of rich people get poor because of gambling addiction, even selling their family just to continue gambling in earlier years when human trafficking and slave isn't that of an issue.

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Quote from: Merit.s on July 22, 2023, 03:01:55 PM

I presume that the rich loss more in gambling than the poor. ~

Most likely they do. But if a millionaire loses $10k to gambling it is not as painful to him as for a poor man to lose $100. And this is very important to understand. Rich or poor, you should only stake what you can afford to lose. I hope some poor people who want to get rich through gambling read my post and drop the idea. Buy a $2 lottery ticket if you want to have that hope in your heart, but don't put dozens of USD at risk.

True that since $10k for a wealthy man is just a penny while $100 for a poor person means everything. I would also go with your advice that as a gambler no matter what is our financial status, must gamble responsibly and must always know the limit or boundaries of what we can afford to lose.

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