Do you see alts have chances against Bitcoins? - page 81.

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Quote from: Xenophoto on April 17, 2017, 10:58:23 AM

Altcoins will get pumped but there sure is a limit. All the present altcoins don't have the lightning network that we need so all the present altcoins doesn't have a chance against bitcoins. I'm thinking, though, if a coin with a lightning network would really kill bitcoins because bitcoins can surely adopt the technology unless the coin developer didn't release a clue on how they did it or the bitcoin technology isn't compatible with this new technology.

I'm thinking that if someone ever released a coin with a lightning network, all the other coins will just copy the same thing and the competition will be gone once again. Bitcoin will still prevail if that happens.

Their are so many altcoins whose network has lightning speed but even then they are not success, the main reason of the success of bitcoin is it is not controlled by any one but altcoin are controlled by the developer and when ever they want they can change or do anything to coin. This is the main reason of the altcoin not getting success

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Altcoins will get pumped but there sure is a limit. All the present altcoins don't have the lightning network that we need so all the present altcoins doesn't have a chance against bitcoins. I'm thinking, though, if a coin with a lightning network would really kill bitcoins because bitcoins can surely adopt the technology unless the coin developer didn't release a clue on how they did it or the bitcoin technology isn't compatible with this new technology.

I'm thinking that if someone ever released a coin with a lightning network, all the other coins will just copy the same thing and the competition will be gone once again. Bitcoin will still prevail if that happens.

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Quote from: SheHadMANHands on April 17, 2017, 04:31:54 AM

Altcoins are existing for a long time now... and yet still bitcoin is number one!

no chance for them

Why no chance? Your statements are crossing each other.
One way you say that they have been existing since long time, and if they have no chance, then for what reason are these alts existing?
I know Bitcoin is number one and wish it remains the same all the time, but as we can't predict future, so is the same in case of Bitcoin vs alts.

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Altcoins are existing for a long time now... and yet still bitcoin is number one!

no chance for them

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Quote from: taxmanmt5 on April 17, 2017, 01:36:14 AM

I agree, it is just that bitcoin need some improvement at the moment. Maybe transaction fees are increasing yet I cant see people transferring their funds there, that is not enough reason to do this move.

This is pretty normal for bitcoin or any kind of currency or cryptocurrency in the world because if there is a lot of users and also a lot of new users coming in the bitcoin world then there is no need for us to be surprise by this kind of growth in terms of increasing the fees because miners and bitcoin needs it to maintain its network and to give profits to the miners so they will not transfer to another coin.

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Quote from: boyptc on April 15, 2017, 04:30:43 PM

Quote from: Stedsm on April 14, 2017, 01:49:21 PM

I have been seeing Bitcoins' price rising with a stability in its growth, but due to the higher mining fee that is being levied on transactions these days, big businesses are now moving their funds towards alts and taking advantage with their least fees as well as shaping a completely new economy in the trends of altcoin markets. Do you think this may harm Bitcoin's dignity and open up a chance in real for alts to rise?

Chances of alts to rise is there but you don't have to worry about it as most of us are making bitcoin as our main crypto. And the whole market is centered for using bitcoin. What big businesses you are saying that move their bitcoins for alts? Most of the businesses will always remain with bitcoin they don't want to take the risk.

I agree with you , bitcoin is still the center of all in crypto industry, I guess those OP you better elaborate more who are those " big businesses" transferred their funds into alts, I guess they will not take the risk of putting their money into something not stable as bitcoin I mean being trusted by everyone.

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I agree, it is just that bitcoin need some improvement at the moment. Maybe transaction fees are increasing yet I cant see people transferring their funds there, that is not enough reason to do this move.

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Quote from: iqlimasyadiqa on April 16, 2017, 07:41:41 PM

for now there is no altcoin could rival bitcoin. bitcoin is still too strong. some have projected altcoin ever surpass bitcoin prices finally fall. they only last some time. while bitcoin survive with very high until recently.

Its because bitcoin have lots of features that's why it is more used by many and I think theres none yet who can get over in bitcoin , though there are lot of alternatives now that been used ,some campaign it uses and will just convert it on bitcoin.

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for now there is no altcoin could rival bitcoin. bitcoin is still too strong. some have projected altcoin ever surpass bitcoin prices finally fall. they only last some time. while bitcoin survive with very high until recently.

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Quote from: commandrix on April 15, 2017, 05:57:45 PM

At this point, I'd definitely say diversify your cryptocurrency holdings and keep your fingers crossed. Bitcoin may stay on top, but that's not guaranteed and the current network congestion plus all this infighting over Bitcoin Core, SegWit and the latest thing that Roger Ver said is definitely not helping.

I really just don't think this is true in the least, I think that the reason for the issues here along with scaling issues is that theres a lot of money to be potentially lost by miners due to changing the scaling solution as it would block out some miners advantage in their ASIC's (looking at you here Jihan, you sly fuck)

This wouldn't be happening in an altcoin because altcoins don't have the same amount of people using them with day to day transcations like bitcoin does, so it's pretty unreal to think that an altcoin could ever take over Bitcoins place in the Crypto world.

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Quote from: warwar on April 16, 2017, 01:36:08 AM

It has a chance that one altcoin will go battle against bitcoins in cryptocurrency markets.Current big altcoins like eth ltc and dash has the chance now to go up against bitcoins if just this altcoins will have more support like bitcoin has at this state.

If only ..., but that is the ace Bitcoin has working for it and it took years of struggling to get there. Honestly I dont see where the momentum to catch up and overtake Bitcoin is going to come from, because as is, all the altcoins you mentioned are simply riding on the wings of Bitcoin.

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Quote from: mrcash02 on April 16, 2017, 10:46:42 AM

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Quote from: ralle14 on April 16, 2017, 08:37:19 AM

I think so, because there was this one alt where one time it was over 1btc per coin on some exchanges. Also I think that the things you/op mentioned won't harm bitcoin it'll just bring more support since they can convert back the alts to bitcoin if they want.

if i do remember it correctly zec coins is more valuable than btc when it was launch im not sure but it went up to 5+btc per zec before the price
dumped down it was the first alt that i've seen greater than the value of btc but after that value drop down and btc still stood up.

That is easy to do if you have a lot of money and a strategy... Hard is to make a currency live for several years and increasing its price even more, like BTC did, so I believe there isn't any alt coin at this time with real chances against Bitcoin. Everything we can see is fake pumps trying to lure some people to invest in fake coins. The trustable currency is Bitcoin and it's going to continue being for a long time yet.

Actually ZEC was not pumped, it was released at that price, having strong hype towards the coin. But then the market cannot sustain the price so it goes down. Price falls hard until what it is today.

Quote from: bitbob82 on April 16, 2017, 01:42:52 PM

but i think in current time there is not a sing currency which can compete bitcoin, because is still trading as number one currency of the world and the uses of bitcoin are also increasing more from time to time as compare to other alt coins, therefore i do not think that in near future there can be a single alt coin which can compete bitcoin.

In popularityand adoption, yes no one can compete but in technology, there are several altcoin that is more advance than Bitcoin.

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Quote from: Cherry Girl on April 16, 2017, 07:01:12 AM

Bitcoin is the strongest and most reliable crypto currency. There are moments of price reduction, but thanks to this, it only becomes stronger and better.

Strongest = yes
Reliable = yes because of stable wallet
Volatile price = normal because of supply and demand (sometimes manipulation)
better = not for micro payments this days due to extremely high fees

Other alts are already gaining both support and new money, i have also included few potential alts for long term holding. Because i think few alts have chance to grow much bigger than what they are right now.

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Quote from: ralle14 on April 16, 2017, 08:37:19 AM

I think so, because there was this one alt where one time it was over 1btc per coin on some exchanges. Also I think that the things you/op mentioned won't harm bitcoin it'll just bring more support since they can convert back the alts to bitcoin if they want.

but i think in current time there is not a sing currency which can compete bitcoin, because is still trading as number one currency of the world and the uses of bitcoin are also increasing more from time to time as compare to other alt coins, therefore i do not think that in near future there can be a single alt coin which can compete bitcoin.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 16, 2017, 09:20:29 AM

if i do remember it correctly zec coins is more valuable than btc when it was launch im not sure but it went up to 5+btc per zec before the price
dumped down it was the first alt that i've seen greater than the value of btc but after that value drop down and btc still stood up.

It was a disaster, I was having a tea and eating cake, when I paid attention to the zec and did not believe that it was possible that zec was worth so much, I thought it was a polo error, but what I saw hours later was unbelievable, zec fell so much and fast, that week I became convinced that doing trade was a high risk thing, who was the person who bought 1 zec for 2500btc?

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I think they don't, at least in the short run. Bitcoin is testing grounds for all other cryptos. If it succeeds and ends up being used daily by merchants around the world, altcoins will have their go, because people will know cryptocurrency is something tested and widely used and will start looking for improvement. If Bitcoin fails they won't even look at altcoins.

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Quote from: bartolo on April 14, 2017, 03:13:35 PM

The great advantage of bitcoin is being the first coin, it has opened its marked and made a room in it. It´s the coin that it´s being adopted and known by the people. Altcoins have to drive this road too, standing at the shadow of bitcoin. Some are doing well finding its own place like ripple or ethereum. I don´t think, today, an altcoin can replace bitcoin or take its place in the head of crypto but some coins can get a good place by its side.

Being the first establish crypto currency is the best weapon of bitcoin to stand against all odd. The competitors of bitcoin pr what so we called altcoin was created to build mutual relationship between bitcoin because altcoin helps bitcoin to balance its value and price together to its demand to fulfull the community needs. In transaction it may help on trading for more oppurtunity and choices. So i guess it may not lead as a bad competitiom but rather on a friendly competitoon that may lead on helping each other to develop.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 16, 2017, 09:20:29 AM

Quote from: ralle14 on April 16, 2017, 08:37:19 AM

I think so, because there was this one alt where one time it was over 1btc per coin on some exchanges. Also I think that the things you/op mentioned won't harm bitcoin it'll just bring more support since they can convert back the alts to bitcoin if they want.

if i do remember it correctly zec coins is more valuable than btc when it was launch im not sure but it went up to 5+btc per zec before the price
dumped down it was the first alt that i've seen greater than the value of btc but after that value drop down and btc still stood up.

That is easy to do if you have a lot of money and a strategy... Hard is to make a currency live for several years and increasing its price even more, like BTC did, so I believe there isn't any alt coin at this time with real chances against Bitcoin. Everything we can see is fake pumps trying to lure some people to invest in fake coins. The trustable currency is Bitcoin and it's going to continue being for a long time yet.

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Quote from: Stedsm on April 14, 2017, 01:49:21 PM

I have been seeing Bitcoins' price rising with a stability in its growth, but due to the higher mining fee that is being levied on transactions these days, big businesses are now moving their funds towards alts and taking advantage with their least fees as well as shaping a completely new economy in the trends of altcoin markets. Do you think this may harm Bitcoin's dignity and open up a chance in real for alts to rise?

We can never know? but I think Altcoins have a long way to travel and because of the value of bitcoin has sky rocket to the top the competitors was way back behind it and I do not like to say that other coins doesn't stand a chance against bitcoin because there might have a chance in the future that is why I don't want to talk big and finish them that way, and beside Altcoin have a very steep road to take because on 2018 Russia would now legalize in using bitcoin.

Comparing bitcoin price to the other altcoins can show up a huge backlog between these two worlds.
It is because that the crowd have heard about bitcoin first, and they know really good that most of the people are into blockchain network, not on some altcoin network.
There are also people who use bitcoin and altcoins, however the number of them is surely smaller than the users that adopted only bitcoin.

If we talk about cryptocurrency, the most of the trust all over the world is given to bitcoin, the rest of cryptocurrency world is rather a big mash-up, where nobody knows which altcoin has the biggest chance to overcome bitcoin popularity and usage.

That figures, attaining a lot of bitcoin was fun for me and I think you can accumulated a bunch of Altcoins it will not hurt especially if you gain them by trading and you will be pretty surprise in doing so sometimes can give you a pretty decent amount, but beware in treating Altcoins fair as bitcoin did there are coins that will let you down and just dump theirs and in trading with them there are always 50\50 risk you will gamble.

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Quote from: ralle14 on April 16, 2017, 08:37:19 AM

I think so, because there was this one alt where one time it was over 1btc per coin on some exchanges. Also I think that the things you/op mentioned won't harm bitcoin it'll just bring more support since they can convert back the alts to bitcoin if they want.

if i do remember it correctly zec coins is more valuable than btc when it was launch im not sure but it went up to 5+btc per zec before the price
dumped down it was the first alt that i've seen greater than the value of btc but after that value drop down and btc still stood up.

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