Topic: Do you think COVID19 is a scam? - page 26. (Read 10699 times)

Here's the preliminary study on the recent variants that have turned up:

Estimated transmissibility and severity of novel SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern 202012/01 in England

^^^ You and I know that there are millions if not billions of viruses all over the place. Somebody has taken flu and turned it into Covid-for-profit. Even the CDC has stopped recording data on flu and pneumonia. Why? Because they have Covid. Since Covid, flu and pneumonia have all but disappeared.

Back in the late 1950s and early '60's, polio suddenly disappeared. Everybody thought that the Salk or Sabin vaccines had been successful. Now we find that they weren't successful, and that the medical simply changed the symptoms.

Great news! The flu and pneumonia are gone! Of course, we have a formerly non-existent Covid-19 to take their place. Do you think that the medical, maybe, simply changed the symptoms designations like they did with polio?

And another one today...  



Mutant strains everywhere:  https://apnews.com/article/international-news-public-health-coronavirus-pandemic-africa-south-africa-58c20bb87f1208c932654f03fbfb2b20

Drudge report has turned into such garbage... it's disgusting frankly.  O well...

Thanks for all the data, franky1. Too bad you can't find even one virus isolation detailed report in all of it. I can't, either. So, thanks for proving that Covid is a fraud and a lie. Easier for me when you prove it for me.

Top headline at the Liberal news site Drudgereport:



The red link goes to:  https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-confirms-two-cases-of-another-new-variant-linked-to-south-africa-12171410

you asked for lots of data..
its now there for you to read it

again your playing the old game of asking for big data. getting big data. and now asking for small data

you played this game 3 times already.
your getting boring now

you asked for the data of all the procedures and processes and tests and results..
so go read it and stop crying

you got what you asked for
if your still unsure. then you will find email addresses in the reports of the doctors involved. im sure you can atleast recognised what an email address looks like.. ill give you a hint there is a @ in it

so if unsure what the report say.. go speak to the source.
after all you wanted to see the source data.

Dr. Fauci says you are not supposed to use anecdotal test results. All you are saying is that somebody found some anecdotal results from some rough comparisons of an on-off test. The least they could do is get some accurate counts in, not some guesswork.

If you looked at your links that you provided above, there is so much data, and you haven't shown where the particular data in question is. You essentially haven't shown any data at all. What's the matter? Are you afraid you will be shown wrong when you try to provide the actual language from the isolation notebook location in one of those websites?

pcr testing is not an off or on.. pcr testing is a scale. where if the scale goes over a threshold then its deemed as not positive

so more cycles passed the threshold become pointless

yes the 35-40 is a grey area of do they have enough virus to be negative or positive of infection.
but when people have 15-35 its clear they have it.

this threshold is worked out by looking at the number of people that never develop symptoms.
yep they actually tested random people that came into contact with sick people and followed up with them for weeks after asking if they had symptoms or not.

they found a pattern those below 35 had symptoms to a varying degree where those with 25 had more noticable symptoms.. where as those 40+ never had symptoms

the asymptomatic group is in the 35-40 range (symptoms so subtle they dont even notice it)

there actually is a scale and its not an on-off..
after the pcr test.. a simplified kid proof explanation is then made with a simple yes or no
but this is a report summary and not the initial PCR result.

by the way you ignorant and lazy man. it only took a few minutes to look at post history to see the info you repeatedly asked for, you would find it. here is one example:


if you just use your post history you will find other occassions where i provided you with info
if you just use google and google something like "covid19 mice" "covid mink" "covid ferret" you will find lots more

instead of wasting weeks asking for info.. actually try remembering the info already handed to you. and then look for info
learn to use google

as for wanting hand written notes.. sorry but your spiralling mentality would never dox yourself to then have any such notes posted to you. so stop asking for stupid things you will never want sent to you

if you have any questions about the studies. the studies include the names and contact details of those doing the tests. so contact them..
you have no excuses now to be ignorant. its now upto you to read and learn

Its 2020 not 1970. People know what a computer mouse is... or don't you?

Since the stuff is linked, show just one link, the location inside the link, and some of the wording that shows the notebook-like process being recorded. Or, you could give us the download link of the operation of isolating being done as recorded by the video camera.

So, stop playing the hiding game, lol. Or could it be that such doesn't exist?



Anybody can go to any number of sites and get an explanation of how the PCR works. But few technical people seem to be able to describe it in its simplest form, even though you have said it many times.

Essentially the PCR test is an off-on-switch-position observation test. It shows you if Covid is there (on), or if it isn't (off). I'm sure they can measure amounts of Covid that someone has, but the funny thing about it is, it can't measure if they are sick or not.

Further, there are so many other considerations... like if the sick person got well after close association to someone who tested PCR positive, but wasn't sick.


You can find records all over the place where people got well from a bad illness. The doctor thought they were going to die. Then they got well. And the doctor doesn't have a clue as to why or how they could get well.

The PCR test is a flimsy attempt at determining something, without really even knowing what is trying to be determined.

its 2020 not 1920.
scientists make their notes and show their processes in computers. not paper.
those reports are actually available i even linked you a few.

you like to stick to historic events.. well then check your post history and stop being lazy
you keep playing this ignorant game. so just look at your post history for reminders

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as for you stupid assumptions about the cycles
the more you cycle it does not make you be seen as having more virus.. its actually the opposite. the more you need to cycle it the less virus you have
meaning no point cycling it 50-100-100-1000 times
cycling it more then 40 has no purpose

someone with a CT of say 15 is highly infectious at the peak of their sickness. someone asymptomatic or pre or post symptomatic wont have a ct of 15.. but instead something in the 30's
someone with say 25 will be symptomatic aswell. but unable to know if its pre-post peak.
someone with say 35+ will probably be asymptomatic. but unknown if its pre-post symptomatic. or if its someone that is asymptomatic throughout.
someone with 40+ would be defined as negative.

this number combined with other diagnostic info will then come together.
EG if someone had ct35 but tested only 1 day of a confirmed close contact.
     - it wont be post symptomatic or post infection
     - it would be pre-symptomatic/asymptomatic. requiring monitoring for 14 days to see if symptoms develop.
     - they would need to isolate to prevent the risk of them passing it on

EG if someone had ct35 but tested 25 days after close contact. where they had symptoms 10 days earlier
    - they would be post symptomatic/post infection
    - they would require to finish off the last 4 days of isolation

EG if someone had ct35 but tested 25 days after close contact. where they had no symptoms
    - they would be asymptomatic

EG someone had ct25 but tested 3 days after close contact
   - they would be presymptomatic

EG someone had ct25 but tested 25 days after close contact.
   - they would be over the worse of their symptoms and in recovery stage

..
a PCR test also looks for human dna as a separate measure to then separate the sample material. and also as a way of knowing if the swab test was effectively done in the nose/throat

if a pcr test shows no human dna and no virus. then obviously the swab was not done properly
and a request to have the person re-swabbed would be done

Corona Viruses have been around forever.  They are a pretty big family of viruses.  The Novel (new) Corona Virus behind this pandemic is called SARS-CoV-2.  AIDS is caused by two Letntiviruses, the HIVS.

Think of it this way:

Animals : Birds : Red Tailed Falcon

is same as

Viruses : Coronaviruses : SARS-Cov-2

is same as

Viruses : Letntiviruses : HIV (where HIV refers to two viruses)


Covid-19 is the disease that is caused by SARS-Cov-2.
AIDS is the disease caused by HIV.

they actually have. they have isolated the virus so in samples the only thing left in the sample is the virus. then they put these samples into other animal specimens and seen their reaction.
when the reactions in the animal species match the reaction in humans they can determine the causal relationship.
the koch rivers and bell test was done many many months ago. about the same time as your stupid conspiracy sites were saying it had not been done.
your script from kaufman in march-april was based on his (lack) of research in january february. where he said america did not do their own tests to validate the asian tests. but in january there were no cases in america.. however by february there were and america did do the tests using their own methods. which did validate the asian tests. so kaufman in march using bad outdated research from january was instantly debunked.
yet idiots like you and badecker are quoting the debunked stuff in december.. because you idiots dont do your own research before repeating crappy scripts from your crappy sites


doctors treat the symptoms. a PCR test takes 24 hours so repeatedly testing someone every 6 hours. and waiting 24 hours to get the results of the test 4 tests ago is not a good way to treat someone. doctors instead treat the symptom the patient is suffering at that minute. not the result of something 24 hours ago


the PCR process works
the inconsistances are based not on the PCR but on:
if the swab is not inserted and rubbed against the insides of the nose/throat well enough
if the person being tested is tested too early or too late into their infection

these are human factors and nothing to do with the PCR equipment
EG someone being swabbed on day 1 of infection may have a CT of 38 because its not yet incubated.
whereas if they were swabbed again on day 6 they would have a CT of 26 due to it having time to incubate in their body
so being told a 'negative' at day one but then presenting with symptoms at day 7 does not mean the PCR equipment is faulty. it means the human decided time to get tested was wrong

this is why most countries. when they track and trace people that come into contact with sick people. they do not test them on day 1. they suggest arranging a test at day 5 or having a test if they have symptoms to make sure what they have matches the known isolate.

its also why PCR tests are done by appointment where people go to a location where they will be swabbed by someone that has been trained to insert the swab and rub the nasel/throat passage properly
..
the only times there have been errors with the PCR equipment is when foolish humans mix up the chemicals and create bad batches of reagents. but this is where in march better processes were put in place to use and test the batches of reagents and use disposible pippettes to avoid cross contamination..
.. again this is something sorted out in march. where again your old outdated scripts are now debunked

a good example of getting a good swab is using the same forensic protocol as CSI. a bad example is the guy that was touching a swab and then put it in cola and then not using any reagants and not waiting for the time to pass. (yes the guy that said cola has covid dun goofed and failed his own experiment)

it has been peer review. PCR tests are not new. the tech has been around for along time. its used in forensic science to find dna of criminals via swaps taken at a crime scene
the process of isolating dna and RNA has been proven
and as said the bell rivers koch has proven what they have isolated causes the covid symptoms
its been peer reviewed in hundreds of countries by thousands of doctors.
.. again when america done the bell, koch rivers in february to validate the asian tests in december/january this is what peer reviewing is. following the example and if the same result happens. then the process is right
some countries also used different processes which backed up the end result.

as for the CT. they dont run the tests 100 - 1000 times like you conspiracy nuts say
and that 35 is not an exact figure/threshold. so they run it a couple more times just to be sure

they dont guarantee an appearance

The world is constantly changing and evolving... Corona Virus appears to have been around for 10,000 years.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-new-strain-found-in-denmark-netherlands-and-australia-says-who-12169262

You could probably find a new COVID every other week if you were looking for it, but it's not dangerous to healthy humans.  Resources are much better off flowing into other avenues that are actually killing healthy (and sick) people every day...

It's been around 10,000 years and most people just heard about it a few months ago.  I remember not long ago a COVID strain going through dogs. I come from a family that used to show Cocker Spaniels... COVID obviously didn't kill off all the puppers and I seriously doubt anyone even remembers this dog COVID.  PSA: The government didn't save all the dogs of the world with masks, regulations, or pointless fear tactics using our taxpayer's money to advertise on Netflix/Hulu/Reddit/Facebook/Billboards!

I just can't imagine AIDS being around 10,000 years, humans knowing about it, people realizing 100% of people fucking DIE from it, but it only becoming a hot topic after the media in the 80's/90's!  No or very little media required for "real" big issues in my opinion.

Maybe I think people are smarter than they actually are, but I know if I start seeing people drop like flies or actually even get sick... I don't need big government to advertise to me through Netflix that I should be worried.  

People make COVID sound like AIDS or something else terrible that's a lifelong battle or death sentence, lol which couldn't be further from the truth... the reality is if you are healthy and you catch COVID... you'll probably just sit at home making TikToks and Snapchats of you eating weird shit and giggling about it.  

People who know how to milk things seem to have COVID longer:  https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/12/09/canadian-woman-long-hauler-coronavirus/

The scammy lady lawyer from above has had COVID for 250+ days   !!! (Despite testing negative lol... she still has COVID in her imagination and that's as good as real for her!)

I almost think these people are hypnotized.  I watched a hypnotist manipulate peoples taste buds and it was AFTER he brought them out of the hypnosis state... these suggestions stick around while we are conscious.  The dude told them "you are going to be really thirsty when you wake up.  The first drink you take is going to taste HORRIBLE, but the second drink is going to be the best taste you've ever had."  All be fucking damned if the people didn't spit out their first sip and chug the second one!!! None of them remembered the suggestion either... wild shit.

I'm totally fine with people believing whatever they want and living their own lives, but I really dislike when other people start using a Government to boss folks around due to their invisible monster beliefs.  America either needs to follow our constitution or change it IMO... not be a "Bandwagon" country that swings drastically and flys her flag at half staff for practically anything.  (I feel like the American flag is at half staff a LOT of the time.  Half staff should be something fucking super serious or people start ignoring it and lose the respect for it. [off topic, but feels relevant.])

One last thing that annoys me... these fucking speaks and their podiums... I can't stand being told about germs and viruses by someone who touches their face, then touches the podium, and then touches the face again!!!!!  Plus breathing on the same fucking mic.  Watch, it happens literally every time in every set of speakers.  It's painful for me and I can't fathom how people take them seriously...

I think it's safe to assume he was referring to the disease covid-19, which is caused by a recently (about a year ago) discovered corona virus.

covid-19 = corona virus disease that was discovered in 2019.

 



Do you know what AIDS is?

"Human immunodeficiency virus infection and acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (HIV/AIDS) is a spectrum of conditions caused by infection with the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV).[9][10][11] Following initial infection a person may not notice any symptoms, or may experience a brief period of influenza-like illness.[4] Typically, this is followed by a prolonged period with no symptoms.[5] If the infection progresses, it interferes more with the immune system, increasing the risk of developing common infections such as tuberculosis, as well as other opportunistic infections, and tumors which are otherwise rare in people who have normal immune function."


COVID is far from new and no one is saying it's fake, it's just being sold to the public in a super scammy way and people like you eat that shit up!

Molecular clock dating analyses of coronaviruses suggest that the most recent common ancestor of these viruses existed around 10,000 years ago.

 

Both use a scam test to test if you are "sick".
If you test positiv like Michael "Magic" Johnson and others and do nothing you happy live 40+ years.If you take the medicine you done within a few years at best.
Covid is the bigger brother of the aids scam.
117 min Documentary https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/hiv-aids-fact-or-fraud/



Its a real thing in the media, without it you would not know it exist. Turn of TV and your cured.

I can't see the relationship between HIV/AIDS and COVID, as if they have something in similar, I guess your basis for comparison for this one is that they are both "VIRUS" huh 

This is the mindset of different people in the state, just to make themselves redeem the "freedom" as if someone stole it from them.

COVID is a serious disease that targets the immune system, and of course, you won't notice the effect cause people with other health conditions are the ones suffering from this one. Covid pretty much lowers your immune system, which results in other conditions that really cause a harmful effect to your body.

But I do agree that many people take advantage of this pandemic, but nonetheless, covid is a real thing, and must be taken seriously

COVID-19 is a scam... fraud... over-exaggerated.... whatever you want to call this.

People are fucking retard.  COVID isn't the new AIDS (remember all those aids regulations?  Porn did get a few... I guess.)  

I'd much rather catch COVID than the flu.

This year has just outlined the mental illness of the masses and the fact they are so desperate to feel important/wanted that they will play invisible monsters with anyone that will listen.  I have found that a LOT of COVID19 Doomsdayers.... also think they are going to die from Global Warming.  (We shall see I suppose)

Here is the propaganda of the week:  https://nypost.com/2020/12/19/mother-shares-bloody-images-of-sons-covid-19-hospital-room/

Hope, we all take it SUPER SRSLY now! (it's funny that every propaganda article ends like that... what a world....)

Now on the Internet, a large number of people downplay the importance of this disease, which leads to bad consequences. I think that there is even no point in proving the opposite, since many have already seen patients from this virus with their own eyes, or they themselves have already had a new disease caused by the virus. You need to isolate yourself as much as possible from society and wait for better times when new viruses will be studied in more detail and drugs are invented to fight them. It's always better to learn from someone else's mistakes, not from yours.