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legendary
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December 06, 2020, 04:30:50 PM
People like me who have studied the operations involving covertly vaccinating women against their own hCG hormone with the 'tetanus shot' to cause abortions and infertility were probably sort of expecting something like this to pop up.  It is the same group of players who are now driving the covid-19 hoax after all, and they've been interested in and writing about such stuff for over a century.

your "studies" are the conspiracy websites twists.
if you truly studied you would realise the project fear by antivaxxers about tetinus is all lies.
when an idiot on a consiracy site says there is XX chemical in tetinus vaccine that causes female infertility. dont then just trust the conspiracy site. actually research away from the conspiracy site.

the actual facts is that a birth control vaccine. contains tetinus toxin.. this is because it makes your body treat the hcg in the birth control vaccine as a foreign attacker becuase its joined to tetinus toxin.
 
not the other way round
its not the case of a tetinus vaccine having birth control in it. its the birth control vaccine containing tetinus toxin

have a great day... when you finally wake up from your fantasy
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December 06, 2020, 02:28:32 PM
IZA FUCKIN SCAM  .....that is all  Cool
Will take some time to clean this expensive mess up
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December 06, 2020, 02:16:18 PM
IZA FUCKIN SCAM  .....that is all  Cool
legendary
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December 06, 2020, 01:55:19 PM
Probably a lot of people remember the incredible laundry-list of things that so-called 'covid-19' is supposed to be responsible for.  Loss of hair, loss of smell, 'covid toes', heart attacks, brain fog, strokes, blood clots, male infertility, etc, etc.  Basically just about everything under the sun.

Having these things predicatively programmed into people was no accident.  What they are doing is setting the stage so that any effects of the vaccine can be blamed on 'the virus'.

But wait, if you get vaccinated you don't get covid, right?  Wrong.  Sharp eyed readers will note that the 'vaccine' is not designed nor is it claimed to stop people from getting the virus.  Only to 'reduce symptoms'.  They have to make it this way so they can blame the virus and not the vaccine when millions of people are shot up and things start to go to hell in a hand-basket.

What you'll here on the news, and what 90% of people will believe unquestioningly, is that "yes, the victim suffered a massive stroke, but only because of the vaccine did they survive at all".  And when the victim dies, the story-line will be that "10 times as many people would die if they didn't have the benefit of the vaccine".  And we can know this because "experts say"(tm).

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Here's another goodie:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAV7aZYrddE

Some possible explanations:

 - Fraudulent voice-over

 - Slip of the tongue

 - Meant to be taken to mean get rid of the virus completely (even though that is not what vaccines in general do, and in particular, not this one.)

 - Meant exactly what he said, and it is meant to get out hence it sits on youtube (idea fleshed out below.)

Many of us who have studied this sort of thing are taken with the observation that 'these people' seem to have some sort of an ethical need to tell people what is going on to a certain degree of specificity.  It's like if they do so, they are somehow off the hook ethically speaking, or at least are creating for themselves some sort of a legal and/or ethical and/or spiritual backdoor.  Their religion is mysterious to me, and I think it fair to say to a lot of other people besides.  At least I've never heard a compelling description of it.  Or of this aspect of it.

I don't have much trust in Dr. Yeadon as a person.  His history is fishy, and his presentations seem like stage sets to me.  But that does not at all mean that I don't think his information is worth listening to (see above.)  The information about the physiology of the syncytin-1 protein necessary to achieve and maintain pregnancy in placental mammals, it's retrovirus derived evolution in mammals, and the homology between the (purported) spike protien of (purported) SARS-CoV-2 which people are to be vaccinated against, is quite new to me.  And quite fascinating.

People like me who have studied the operations involving covertly vaccinating women against their own hCG hormone with the 'tetanus shot' to cause abortions and infertility were probably sort of expecting something like this to pop up.  It is the same group of players who are now driving the covid-19 hoax after all, and they've been interested in and writing about such stuff for over a century.

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December 06, 2020, 02:29:51 AM
The U.S. also closed schools which turned out to be a mistake as the AAP, comprised of medical doctors who work with children, has suggested that schools should be open.

Evidence that the UK closed schools does not mean it was done so rightfully with evidence of community spread taking place at schools. There is not evidence of this.

.. if it was not a thing. then they would not have needed to put so much effort into schools and uni's.

Why are you not considering the possibility that officials were wrong to close down schools? Top U.S. doctor Fauci said schools should be open, and other medical doctors also say the same thing.

Teachers unions fought to have schools closed, not like they were operating based on science or children's best interest.

there are many aspects that build up the reasoning of closing/opening schools.
parts of it are the economy.
other parts are:
the mental stress of not socialising.
the daily escape from a domestic abusive home
the nutritian of poor kids that relied on free school meals
the education quality decline of the kids

in america kids are less likely to obey social distancing rules. compared to UK. so the risk of american kids spreading is higher % than uk kids.
the nutrician debate sided with letting foodbanks offer the food that schools now wont offer
so the 2 remaining debates are the mental/physical distress of being stuck at home. by which there are many campaigns done to try getting kids to know there are support telephone lines in cases of domestic abuse.
also having extra support for mothers looking for shelters to escape abuse.
and also some parents that could not work from home let their elderly relatives babysit the kids while parents work.

however, if the kids did go to school and got picked up/dropped off by granny.. it would be far worse..
so having kids staying home at granny's house is safer than kids going to school mixing with dozens then going to granny's house.

yes the decision makers know that closing schools helps reduce spread. and the real fear is more about the domestic abuse, nutrition. by which they hope the support of services and relatives will ease those fears
they also adjusted the 'remote learning' lesson plans and grading scales to help with the education decline risk.

so the % risk of the negatives did not outweigh the positives.
over all excess death reduction. hospital overcrowding reduction is more important than a kids temporary grade average. (life is more important than 1years education)
legendary
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December 06, 2020, 02:09:53 AM
You actually did quote something out of a report once. However, that thing you quoted wasn't anything like the notebook, step-by-step process.

Since you are so wise, perhaps you could find a Covid report in that list of 38,000, and then show the part of the wording... the step-by-step isolation process, like from a scientific researcher's in-the-lab notebook, where he/she records the steps as they are being done. And you might even throw in the part where it made the injected test subjects sick. You know, the little important details.

You don't have to quote the whole notebook area. Just quote a little of it, and give clear directions as to how to find it.

And don't get me wrong. I understand that it might be there. If it looks good enough, I'll forward it on to Dr. Andrew Kaufman so he can show us what is wrong with using the report as proof.

Cool

its 2020. doctors do not use 'notebooks' its all computerised.
the reports show the methods.

i know you are just trying to say you want to ignoring reading the processes because its not wrote in the hand written common worded language you want.
but this is where you have to up your game and learn science.

i already know if someone contacted one of the doctors/labs referenced in the reports to send you any 'notes' in hand written form. you will then declare its not good enough because its not a science format.
and thus again(you already played this game) will flip back to wanting the official reports.

please read your own post history you already played this flip flop game of ignorance.

the reports explain the equipment/tools/agents/chemicals/even the volume of chemicals. the number of times its cycled. how long the time it takes to cycle.

also they have the reports of the hamsters, mice, monkeys and other animals they test the sample on
and all the details of the tests taken from the animals.

its not that the reports lack that info. its that you lack the ability/desire to want to learn.
legendary
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December 04, 2020, 11:54:25 PM
they all do. they explain the equipment used and the methods.

remember when you tried to suggest that it did not include a certain process of the use of centrifuge and then i pointed out that it actually did,
you went very quiet about mentioning the centrifuge script once you realised you got debunked.
the reports also explain about disposible pippettes and reagents used and time taken. as well as all the other more important equipment and processes.

reports also explained they tested mice, hamsters, ferrets,monkeys
all of this has been explained to you many times.

maybe you have bad memory. but try to check your post history to see if you already said something instead of just repeating things.

So, this is why you can't even quote a few pertainant lines of it. It's all there, but you don't know how to copy and paste.

However, if there is something that is detailed enough, and you know where it exists, quote enough of it so that I know what to look for, and give enough of a location so I can find it easily. I don't have time to take a general link, and follow through all the internal links until I finally find a place that might be some real explanation of the using of a procedure recorded as it is being used.

Nowadays, researchers film what they do, so that they don't have to stop to write in their notebooks. The critical time in the operation might change things if they have to stop to write in notebooks. So, where is the video, and the explanation of what they are doing at each step?

Just saying, "We used process #67 to analyze the specimen," really isn't enough. Let's get a real report.

Cool


EDIT: I don't even know why I waste my time on you jokers. If anybody was really serious about proving the virus, they would prove it rather than saying over and over that they proved it right here.
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December 04, 2020, 10:19:11 PM
they all do. they explain the equipment used and the methods.

remember when you tried to suggest that it did not include a certain process of the use of centrifuge and then i pointed out that it actually did,
you went very quiet about mentioning the centrifuge script once you realised you got debunked.
the reports also explain about disposible pippettes and reagents used and time taken. as well as all the other more important equipment and processes.

reports also explained they tested mice, hamsters, ferrets,monkeys
all of this has been explained to you many times.

maybe you have bad memory. but try to check your post history to see if you already said something instead of just repeating things.
legendary
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December 04, 2020, 09:37:32 PM
If you have the stud reports where the tests were done to actually isolate Covid, and where the virus was injected into test subjects, and the test subjects got sick from it, and it was re-isolated out of the test subjects to show that it was the same virus, please do this for us. Show us the study(ies), and point out the language by copy and paste that shows what was done, so we can actually see the wording to see if they made some mistakes and the studies are flawed.

you been shown it.
you simply then say the reports are then too sciency for you to understand them and then you ask for it to be summarised in simple language.
then you look at the sumary as if thats all that been said and said its not sciency and you want the reports as if they were never linked.
you then say the reports are too sciency. and ask for a summary.. then you ask for the reports because the summary is not a report.
then you read the report and say....

.. you kep repeating the same game for atleast 6 months now..
you know it passed the koch, rivers tests. and without your prompt i even checked it passed the bell test.
stop trying to repeat kaufmans scripts from May.. its 6-7 months been debunked.. move onto a new script

you keep trying to say "they" like there is only one lab. only one process and you think that one lab and one test made a mistake.
many labs many locations and many processes done the test and came to the same consensus which shows the data is good. (as thats hoe bitcoin consensus works)
you have seen the pictures of mice and their blood results and symptom diagnoses. so stop pretending you have not been linked the reports.

your ignorance to read them and remember them is the mistake. the only flaw is in you.
if you truly wanted to read and understand the reports. you would not be playing this 'show me the report' game and instead you would just read the reports.
stop pretending you have not been shown them.
this forum has a post history. so there is proof you been shown them many times

You actually did quote something out of a report once. However, that thing you quoted wasn't anything like the notebook, step-by-step process.

Since you are so wise, perhaps you could find a Covid report in that list of 38,000, and then show the part of the wording... the step-by-step isolation process, like from a scientific researcher's in-the-lab notebook, where he/she records the steps as they are being done. And you might even throw in the part where it made the injected test subjects sick. You know, the little important details.

You don't have to quote the whole notebook area. Just quote a little of it, and give clear directions as to how to find it.

And don't get me wrong. I understand that it might be there. If it looks good enough, I'll forward it on to Dr. Andrew Kaufman so he can show us what is wrong with using the report as proof.

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legendary
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December 04, 2020, 09:04:43 PM
If you have the stud reports where the tests were done to actually isolate Covid, and where the virus was injected into test subjects, and the test subjects got sick from it, and it was re-isolated out of the test subjects to show that it was the same virus, please do this for us. Show us the study(ies), and point out the language by copy and paste that shows what was done, so we can actually see the wording to see if they made some mistakes and the studies are flawed.

you been shown it.
you simply then say the reports are then too sciency for you to understand them and then you ask for it to be summarised in simple language.
then you look at the sumary as if thats all that been said and said its not sciency and you want the reports as if they were never linked.
you then say the reports are too sciency. and ask for a summary.. then you ask for the reports because the summary is not a report.
then you read the report and say....

.. you kep repeating the same game for atleast 6 months now..
you know it passed the koch, rivers tests. and without your prompt i even checked it passed the bell test.
stop trying to repeat kaufmans scripts from May.. its 6-7 months been debunked.. move onto a new script

you keep trying to say "they" like there is only one lab. only one process and you think that one lab and one test made a mistake.
many labs many locations and many processes done the test and came to the same consensus which shows the data is good. (as thats hoe bitcoin consensus works)
you have seen the pictures of mice and their blood results and symptom diagnoses. so stop pretending you have not been linked the reports.

your ignorance to read them and remember them is the mistake. the only flaw is in you.
if you truly wanted to read and understand the reports. you would not be playing this 'show me the report' game and instead you would just read the reports.
stop pretending you have not been shown them.
this forum has a post history. so there is proof you been shown them many times
legendary
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December 04, 2020, 08:27:09 PM
Children are not prime transmission vectors for COVID and in the UK, it was not determined that schools were responsible for the uptick in cases.

i guess you missed the news where they had to close schools often and also universities. where they actually had to put alot of mobile test centres on uni campuses to test them.
(1)(2)(3)

it got to a point where instead of whole year groups(grades) having to isolate because schools had year/grade 'bubbles' they had to change it to class size bubbles. due to how often isolations were being triggered. then they had to try to organise it as smaller 'bubbles' otherwise kids would be off school more then they would be in school


oh and also this month give uni students the new rapid tests to ensure that students tested negative before returning from dorms to family homes to ensure they dont spread it..

.. if it was not a thing. then they would not have needed to put so much effort into schools and uni's.

the only reason UK tried so hard to put kids back into school/uni. was due to the economic decision not a health decision. purely because while kids where home, so were their parents. which hindered economic growth and cost gov more money in furlough payments.
yep it was an economic choice.

same as america. they want kids to go back to school so that parents can start earning at work again.
heck even the conspiracy nutters that think education is some brainwashing institute want their kids to go back purely so the parents can go back to work. again economics.
they dont like having to look after their kids 24/7. the parents want a break from their own kids.

the funny part is during march-august where kids were at home. ofcourse they didnt cause spread.. because they were already at home.
butas soon as they started going back to school. cases amungst kids and then their family the following week went up.
yep
in the UK certain businesses are saying they should not be shutdown. such as hairdressers/barbers/pubs because they say that the spread is not due to their business but happening within the home due to their kids school and then to parents

so i know you probably want an excuse to put kids back into school in america.. but right now while america is seeing a second wave rise, not fall.. trying to push for actions that will increase the rise wont be successful plea.
also its the christmas season where schools/uni's are starting to winde down and shut anyway for christmas break. so another reason why its the wrong time to beg to send kids to school, they are not going to learn much if you sent them to school for the next 2 weeks.

..
just a few of the many UK news in just the last 2 weeks regarding schools(search google if you want more)
50 fold rise in school infections
daughter asymptomatic passes to parent that ends up in intensive care
schools beg for rapid tests and shutting schools early for christmas to get cases down



The U.S. also closed schools which turned out to be a mistake as the AAP, comprised of medical doctors who work with children, has suggested that schools should be open.

Evidence that the UK closed schools does not mean it was done so rightfully with evidence of community spread taking place at schools. There is not evidence of this.


.. if it was not a thing. then they would not have needed to put so much effort into schools and uni's.


Why are you not considering the possibility that officials were wrong to close down schools? Top U.S. doctor Fauci said schools should be open, and other medical doctors also say the same thing.

Teachers unions fought to have schools closed, not like they were operating based on science or children's best interest.
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December 04, 2020, 06:16:12 PM
No, with the envidence of some covid-19 cases we saw in different countries, show that covid-19 is real not a scam. Many countries economy collapsed during the pandemic because of the corona virus that was spreading all over the country that was causing many citizens to find it difficult to sustain in the country.
Many government officials where with their facemask and also maintain social distances in the country, that make many people to know that covid-19 is not a scam in the country. Many presidents and governors where in isolation center during the pandemic that was making them to start receiving treatment in the isolation center.

This is exactly the point. If somebody who didn't know anything about Covid and the turmoil in the countries read your post, what would he say about it? He'd say that he had to get more info before believing you.

So, what is the evidence you have that Covid exists? Did you look at the virus in an electron microscope? Do you know what you were looking at if you looked? Or did you simply hear people say it?

A few people talked. A few heard them and repeated it, and now many people think Covid exists. But nobody did the testing that would prove it. Or...

If you have the stud reports where the tests were done to actually isolate Covid, and where the virus was injected into test subjects, and the test subjects got sick from it, and it was re-isolated out of the test subjects to show that it was the same virus, please do this for us. Show us the study(ies), and point out the language by copy and paste that shows what was done, so we can actually see the wording to see if they made some mistakes and the studies are flawed.

If you haven't done stuff like this already, its all hearsay. And you fell for it. And you and other people like you are helping some medical leaders take over the world without knowing it.

Cool
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December 04, 2020, 03:26:57 PM
No, with the envidence of some covid-19 cases we saw in different countries, show that covid-19 is real not a scam. Many countries economy collapsed during the pandemic because of the corona virus that was spreading all over the country that was causing many citizens to find it difficult to sustain in the country.
Many government officials where with their facemask and also maintain social distances in the country, that make many people to know that covid-19 is not a scam in the country. Many presidents and governors where in isolation center during the pandemic that was making them to start receiving treatment in the isolation center.
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December 04, 2020, 03:22:06 PM
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Do you think COVID19 is a scam?

Lots of court cases to come
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December 04, 2020, 02:53:49 PM
During the pandemic period, many people do not comply with the measures taken by governments for their own countries, there are still people who underestimate the virus. It is up to the police who are in the closest contact to warn citizens, but these warnings should always be polite.
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December 04, 2020, 01:41:26 PM
Children are not prime transmission vectors for COVID and in the UK, it was not determined that schools were responsible for the uptick in cases.

i guess you missed the news where they had to close schools often and also universities. where they actually had to put alot of mobile test centres on uni campuses to test them.
(1)(2)(3)

it got to a point where instead of whole year groups(grades) having to isolate because schools had year/grade 'bubbles' they had to change it to class size bubbles. due to how often isolations were being triggered. then they had to try to organise it as smaller 'bubbles' otherwise kids would be off school more then they would be in school


oh and also this month give uni students the new rapid tests to ensure that students tested negative before returning from dorms to family homes to ensure they dont spread it..

.. if it was not a thing. then they would not have needed to put so much effort into schools and uni's.

the only reason UK tried so hard to put kids back into school/uni. was due to the economic decision not a health decision. purely because while kids where home, so were their parents. which hindered economic growth and cost gov more money in furlough payments.
yep it was an economic choice.

same as america. they want kids to go back to school so that parents can start earning at work again.
heck even the conspiracy nutters that think education is some brainwashing institute want their kids to go back purely so the parents can go back to work. again economics.
they dont like having to look after their kids 24/7. the parents want a break from their own kids.

the funny part is during march-august where kids were at home. ofcourse they didnt cause spread.. because they were already at home.
butas soon as they started going back to school. cases amungst kids and then their family the following week went up.
yep
in the UK certain businesses are saying they should not be shutdown. such as hairdressers/barbers/pubs because they say that the spread is not due to their business but happening within the home due to their kids school and then to parents

so i know you probably want an excuse to put kids back into school in america.. but right now while america is seeing a second wave rise, not fall.. trying to push for actions that will increase the rise wont be successful plea.
also its the christmas season where schools/uni's are starting to winde down and shut anyway for christmas break. so another reason why its the wrong time to beg to send kids to school, they are not going to learn much if you sent them to school for the next 2 weeks.

..
just a few of the many UK news in just the last 2 weeks regarding schools(search google if you want more)
50 fold rise in school infections
daughter asymptomatic passes to parent that ends up in intensive care
schools beg for rapid tests and shutting schools early for christmas to get cases down
legendary
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December 04, 2020, 06:45:10 AM

He did not quote that schools are the only source for spreading but instead, Logic dictates that schools is "ALSO" a place for the virus to spread.
Think about it, 30+ students in a room. Each students has to move from their home to the school to study. This students do not have one specific place to live, and they are in need to travel to their schools. So even if one of these students caught the virus accidentally, given that they would be in contact personally in classroom activities. The virus will spread continuously in the whole campus. Take note that students are always in motion and most likely plays with other sections, or even in contact when in time for lunch.

Good.  Within a week or two the whole school population has herd immunity.  The virus then has one whole less population to propagate in and dies out just like every other common cold.  And snot-nosed kids are a particularly valuable population to get immunity and out of the way when it comes to epidemiology for some of the reasons you mention.

One of the few minor differences between SARS-cov-2 and any other coronavirus-based common cold is that this one is unusually light on younger people.  They are about as likely to get killed by lightning than 'covid-19', and probably more so once all of the mortality fraud is subtracted form the stats.  What this means is that school aged kids are a fantastic way to reach herd immunity quickly and painlessly.

There are some people who should avoid getting SARS-cov-2 such as people undergoing chemo, but they should avoid catching anything and most other things are probably more of a threat to them anyway.  They should chill at home and wait a few weeks for the thing to blow over.

In point of fact, it looks like the thing probably did blow over before even the first lockdowns went into place.  This even with the extra caution since most of the covid-19 penance assigned by the covid scientpriests to their believers (dousing with alcohol every 10 minutes, social distance, masks, etc) were universally pointless.  Since before the lockdowns in the West even started, the 'epidiemic' has been fraud based on mis-use of unreliable tests, data falsification and statistical fraud, paying off people to pretend like they are sick, paying of the medical industry to label people as sick, etc.

What is particularly funny is that most 'Covid Believers' will consider something like flagellation to be a bizarre ritualistic throw-back...while wearing their cloth masks.

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December 04, 2020, 06:03:49 AM

Friendly reminder that Dr. Fauci, after literal months of ignoring the American Academy of Pediatrics who stated in June that schools should be open, now up until these last couple weeks recognized that schools should be open. But apparently dem's feel safe when someone like this is in charge.

its not that simple.
although kids themselves do not die as much. they are still spreaders. and when in a classroom of 30+ kids in close proximity. thats 30x families interacting essentially.
also by kids being at school, parents are then less likely to want to stay home/work from home. so parents too would be going back to work/socialising more which adds onto the excess of points of contact.

Find me a single source that states schools are the source for super spreader events.

Children are not prime transmission vectors for COVID and in the UK, it was not determined that schools were responsible for the uptick in cases.

He did not quote that schools are the only source for spreading but instead, Logic dictates that schools is "ALSO" a place for the virus to spread.
Think about it, 30+ students in a room. Each students has to move from their home to the school to study. This students do not have one specific place to live, and they are in need to travel to their schools. So even if one of these students caught the virus accidentally, given that they would be in contact personally in classroom activities. The virus will spread continuously in the whole campus. Take note that students are always in motion and most likely plays with other sections, or even in contact when in time for lunch.
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December 04, 2020, 05:50:42 AM

Friendly reminder that Dr. Fauci, after literal months of ignoring the American Academy of Pediatrics who stated in June that schools should be open, now up until these last couple weeks recognized that schools should be open. But apparently dem's feel safe when someone like this is in charge.

its not that simple.
although kids themselves do not die as much. they are still spreaders. and when in a classroom of 30+ kids in close proximity. thats 30x families interacting essentially.
also by kids being at school, parents are then less likely to want to stay home/work from home. so parents too would be going back to work/socialising more which adds onto the excess of points of contact.

Find me a single source that states schools are the source for super spreader events.

Children are not prime transmission vectors for COVID and in the UK, it was not determined that schools were responsible for the uptick in cases.
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