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Go big or go home.

Personally I want to be onboard the next move from pennies to $130,000. That is only going to happen for the one that becomes a currency.

Don't waste my time with 10 baggers.


Currencies do not necessarily have to have a total order (you don't like that, do you) or hierarchy.  

Bingo!

National currencies were/are the citizen's unit-of-account because it is very costly store your cash flow in a unit-of-account which is not the predominant unit-of-exchange.

Now that we are transitioning to B2C and P2P (C2C) globalized commerce, we need in some areas (especially intangible Internet commerce) a globalized unit-of-account and exchange.

Read that second sentence again and understand the profound implications. The coming moat is no longer national boundaries but tangible versus intangible (Industrial Age versus Knowledge Age) commerce. Also make sure you read my essay in the Economic Devastation thread.


Like the Joseph Jei Ted talk. While I've got nothing in me in area of Bitcoin/technology I can relate to having a nagging 'calling' passion, call it what you want that I have been procrastinating about for some years now and have to make some moves in the right direction soon. I dunno if everyone has the 'big thing' in them in fact I'm pretty sure most don't cause I met so many people who are happy with the small mundane daily joys and seem to want nothing beyond that.

The big test I think for real leaders in any sphere is you have tho put up with a lot of misunderstanding. You can talk your vision as much as you want but most won't get it or simply won't be interested in it (thats cause vision is so individual) only a few and they are the ones in your sphere you need to collaborate with I guess. Stating the obvious I know but we all need nudging along the pathway and cheerleading sometimes, we're human after-all...and all real vision is always reaching for something that seems at times impossible.....thats the point, it has to push past what is already known or done. Vision is often a lonely business.
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They're tactical
http://www.1024cores.net/home/scalable-architecture

Just throwing  this here in case you never saw it Smiley

Best site on scalable arch & all Smiley


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Locking references to objects which are referenced by other objects, e.g. objects which are elements of an array. To make this work, referenced objects will need to have a (GC weak) reference(s) back to the referencing object(s). So this forms a tree graph and we always lock the root of the tree. If there a circular reference with the root, then locking request fails (i.e. is denied) at run-time.

Of course this means extra runtime overhead when for example adding and removing elements from an array, except for the binary packed structures (i.e. stored by value in place instead of by reference) I proposed (and note that store by value is better for cache locality performance). But exclusively borrowed (for writing or not writing) references will be exempted from this runtime overhead.


That's exactly the principle I follow in my framework. The over head is still ok. My goal was to get performance on same scale than js, and Im more than there, even with the thread safe runtime. Still much slower than direct access, did test with the raytracer & +10millions access / sec, using this tree system for all single variable was 5/10 times slower than direct binary access, but with the benefits it has regarding control of data state, easy conversion from arbitrary json/XML,  and memory safety, it still worth it for anything that is potentially sharable, and for really fast local access, can always use compiler built in type & direct pointer.

Ive been experimenting with this concept a lot, and outside of the still ok runtime overhead, but with now day cache & all it is ok, and it provide only benefits, as well for low level programming, pci bus, drivers, usb, hid etc to application level & network protocol, it's super useful on every level and solve lot of problem with a good runtime Smiley especially to bridge between low level & high level, even to have layer that need to transport complexe object or tree being blind to the data, like message processing, or with json rpc, in a completely low coupling manner.

The pb is C and C++ lack too much runtime meta data to be useful as it for multi thread. It has to use some part in asm like memory barrier, atomic operations, or thing like openmp or language extension to understand the multi thread / dapp problematic. C11 is supposed to fix some part of this, but when ..

And there is not really good general purpose language who really fix all the issues.
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I felt I had made enough progress to spill some beans over at Eric's blog:

Coming back one more time, because I've read two comments here about the Bitcoin ecosystem since I left, I've made some progress since, and I think I am probably qualified to talk about what if any work in the Bitcoin and altcoin ecosystem is fundamental enough to warrant ESR's attention.

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Have you thought about blogging at steemit.com?

I earned up to $2000 per blog, but the opportunity to do so was only during July 2016 when the price had pumped up to $4. Jeff Berwick earned $10,000+ on his first blog and some sexbomb earned $20,000+ for an amateur video about makeup. Some of those who blogged in the couple of months before the price rise ended up grossing $100,000+.

We were only able to cash out 50% of what we earned, because of the original 1 year average weighted delay for earned tokens to become free trading.

There is no more value in blogging on Steem and the price is continuing to decline. IMO, the model is incorrect and the system is controlled by whales.

Bitcoin and all the altcoin designs to date lack long-term decentralization (and Bitcoin is currently undergoing the "scalepocalypse" that I predicted a years ago). It is a fact of nature that resources become power-law or exponentially distributed. This is a fundamental problem which so far inhibits maintaining decentralization of control over consensus protocols. Decentralized paradigms have the property of not being fungibly aggregated (i.e. lacking economies-of-scale), e.g. sex (although this can even be argued to be top-down controlled via religion, mass-media, culture, etc).

I am working on this fundamental problem. I don't expect a panacea. TCP/IP isn't a panacea. We strive for paradigms which serve some real world purpose. I am working on a new statically typed language which will transpile to JavaScript (initially bootstrapped via transpiling to TypeScript) and which is focused on solving concurrency soundness without the total order tsuris of Rust's IMO incorrect borrowing model, as well adding lucid code aspects that aren't in JavaScript such as "everything as an expression", Python indenting instead of brace-delimited, integer types, etc.. All still very early stage and I had disseminated Tuberculosis (and concomitant delirium) for the past several years and didn't get the diagnosis until January 2017 so all my plans are all very speculative at this point. A community of investor support is forming but the open source aspect has not yet begun in earnest (except for some Issues discussion interaction with @keean on Github).
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Okay that last post seemed to kickstart the open source process. Now I have at least one person contacting me asking about starting to develop apps now.

So it is almost time for me to start a Slack group and kickstart the community. But I have some more ground work to do first. So I'll try to be quiet for a while so I can get more done.

8 - 11 more days on the intensive 4-drugs, and my daily productivity is ramping up.
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Monero sounds kinda funny to me.

Agreed. Never been entirely comfortable with that name. Sounds amateurish (like a board game?). It even feels better to write XMR. (Monero is a technologically sophisticated project with current best-of-breed attempts at decentralization, so the name doesn't seem to fit)

For the open blockchain (i.e. target demographic are the investors, developers, serious participants, and the notion of a new decentralized protocol on the Internet perhaps as revolutionary as the Internet itself), I am already pleased with the name OpenShare. Much better IMO than Steem and better as an open protocol name than the user focused name LBRY.

For the programming language, I've suggested Lucid, Next (or Nxt), Copute, or Async. I predict either Lucid or Async as the likely choice.

On top of the OpenShare blockchain, we will need to build some initial apps which are the face of project from the perspective of the masses who will be joining. Think of the distinction between Steem the blockchain and Steemit the blogging app on the open blockchain.

We currently have a five letter domain name (with a .us extension) which I purchased (for $325) and registered in August 2016. I am not mentioning it because the afair, the .net extension is for sale for roughly $10,000. And the .com is no longer in use by the company who bought out the company who used to use it. Thus it might be purchasable. This name is very brandable and it applies to place where one can find many things and activities they want (and the .us fits IMO in a social context). The name is on par I think with Twitter in terms of brandability.

However, I am not sure if I am entirely satisfied with that 5 letter domain as the initial public face of the project for the masses. I am still contemplating this.

Also the token unit name for OpenShare I suppose will be SHARES. But we also registered the eca.sh domain (years ago) and we've done some research on the history of that name and the trademark and feel confident we can use it, if we wish to.

The conceptual idea of SHARES would be that users come to view their tokens as a reflection of their SHARE of (investment in) the sharing on the Internet. But maybe we come to a conclusion that it is better to emphasize the transactional capability so perhaps ecash, gas, ...

But I like the concept of rewarding each other with a recognition of their sharing value, e.g. “I am paying you 10 shares because I appreciate/value/need what you shared”.

I'd like to see GitHub and other centralized repository sites replaced with a decentralized protocol and apps on top of OpenShare. That will give you some idea of the powerful concept contemplated. The intent is to turn the Internet upside down, where the servers become powerless slaves fulfilling the End-to-End principle and the users (collectively) become the only crucial parts of the system.

This is why it is essential that the consensus design scale decentralized. Something afaik no one else has yet figured out how to do (I can't comment about unreleased designs that I don't know in sufficient detail, e.g. eMunie).
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they are moving to counterparty chain

Which has security flaws.

I won't defend them anymore cause I don't know his coding talent beyond he worked on Mastercoin

Which some have alleged was a "scam".

When I see guys showing demos in videos instead of code, I know I am not looking at top quality coders. The name "Shannon Code" was a "fluff, no substance" warning sign. There is a remote chance my quick intuitions are incorrect, but I'll wait for some evidence rather than waste my time digging.

If they need closed source at the start, then why all the marketing hype on their Medium page. Seems to me they are more about raising money than accelerating a paradigm and open source collaboration.
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now it's hard to find a place where people really talk about project and not who they know, who they follow, or empty Dick contest and drama. Now it's like ten trolls fud der paranoaics and fan boy for 1 tech post at best lol

Because it is all they are capable of, i.e. it is their form of accomplishment. And they will waste the time of those who are more capable, if we allow them to do so.
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In his defense though it does require proper thought.
And each idea can be a dead end with wasted time.
A currency concept would require investigation and more than likely the obvious hits you later.. it's a bad idea LOL
I have had a bunch of ideas but the more i thought of them the more holes i punched in the idea.
And the standard is VERY HIGH !


Never a truer word spoken IMO.

I've spent almost 4 years now solving the same problems Shelby is attempting.   I've thrown away more ideas and code than I care to think about.  Some of those ideas are doing the rounds now as the "next big thing" and I threw them away years ago as they weren't good enough or would have issues further down the line.

I think the problem is that because Bitcoin works, and block chains are "good enough" for most things, the perception is that it must be easy...as someones already done it to a sufficient degree.   It's far from easy though and Satoshi most likely took a number of years of R&D, trialing things out, throwing ideas and code away before he got to Bitcoin.

However, Shelby does spend TOO much time on this forum (and others) procrastinating and debating rather than doing!

Even if he has something fundamental that he can turn into a spectacular product he runs the risk of missing the boat and being the Betamax....or worse someone invents Betamax before him and markets it like VHS.

IMO the boat has already sailed...I'm VERY close and I have working code!  Save for some final critical testing a release is now imminent....I know others are also making progress and edging in on what he's trying to achieve too.

I look forward to seeing what you've been working on.  That being said I hope you would be willing consider a name change, because non-phonetic names have less potential to go viral.  If I heard someone talking about eMunie on that train I'd have no idea how it was spelled (could be eMoney, Muney, Monie, Monee, etc) and would be less likely to have it come up in a google search, Steem is a bad name for the same reason (the existence of the gaming platform Steam hasn't done them any favors either).  Bitcoin is great branding; self descriptive, easy to spell/remember, and unique.

True, name is very important. The project needs a cool name. Bitcoin is amazing, nice, simple, clean, it works.
Dash also got a good view on the marketing here, going from darkcoin to Dash was definitely a good change.
Monero sounds kinda funny to me.
Litecoin has a good psychological factor for "silver coin", of course being the "original alt" also helps.
Ethereum is a pretty cool name, too pretentious tho, but it fits the very ambitious project. It sort of sounds like "Elysium" or "Skynet", something scary. "World computer" they call it, fucking Vitalik, what a crazy guy. Unfortunately, maybe it is actually too pretentious and ambitious and that is its main mistake. We'll see.

So yeah, you must find a good name.
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They're tactical

Especially if you spend too much time talking on forums.
For example i had worked with some groups before cracking games & app's and i would get pissed off because people would nag you or lure you into chatting on IRC etc.. when i just wanted to work on the code.

Until the late 90's it was still different imo, because internet was restricted, with 56k etc it was not really common to stay connected all day, and it was still expansive /hour, so mostly you would just go on the irc or forum to reach someone you really need to reach or ask a question and disconnect. After with adsl and all the h24 connection and messenger, now the social networking, it become a bit information boulimia :p and too much time wasted in drama, and social / ego issue, I remember at first how the noob were mocked as Blogger who spend their day talking their useless opinion or life on blogs :p now it's hard to find a place where people really talk about project and not who they know, who they follow, or empty Dick contest and drama. Now it's like ten trolls fud der paranoaics and fan boy for 1 tech post at best lol
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I have been following Coval on their slack, Michael Sullivan and Shannon Code seem like guys who just want to build something and not build the next scam.

I'll take a peek. Thanks for the tip. Suggestions on good developers are always welcome. I also have some interest in Steem's core developer (he writes excellent code) and we've exchange comments already on Steemit.

I had commented on Coval in November.

I commented about Shannon Code and even today I still can't find the open source repo.


I think Loyyal is not open source, the platform is centralized I guess, they are moving to counterparty chain. Seems they just use blockchain to organize the complexity of keeping track of loyalty programs, it's a business just utilizing blockchain rather than a crypto project it seems to me.

https://blog.omni.foundation/tag/shannon-code/

I won't defend them anymore cause I don't know his coding talent beyond he worked on Mastercoin and the Loyyal platform. just thought him and Michael Sullivan who first coined the term crowdsale are the kind of guys you mentioned on one post, good guys that act dependable without the hype that you might be looking for. They are busy with Coval and Loyyal anyway. You don't need to reply.

https://blog.omni.foundation/tag/shannon-code/

https://github.com/genecyber
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FUD Philanthropist™
Agreed with the guy about emunie.. it's not that bad but... what he said Wink

I hate the name Monero for example (and many others around here)
Shit like Lisk ? ugggh  Roll Eyes

You need the code AND a good name too ! Bitcoin ? come on.. that was golden !

And what have a i been doing ?
Eatin' cereal ..munchies are important business !

But i stopped working on crypto related code a couple years ago and deleted most of it.
I tend to work on Mobile related stuff with Android now.
Working on cracking Android APP's with SMALI or fixing up a program using CSharp.
I also learned long ago not to bite off more than i could chew.
When i was younger i started working on a video game.. later abandoned because i realized it was too much work for one person.
I'd say it's comparable to creating the Bitcoin Killer.. right on the edge of being too much work.
Especially if you spend too much time talking on forums.
For example i had worked with some groups before cracking games & app's and i would get pissed off because people would nag you or lure you into chatting on IRC etc.. when i just wanted to work on the code.

I am not sure Shelby here has got the discipline.
And that is a coding skill Wink
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In his defense though it does require proper thought.
And each idea can be a dead end with wasted time.
A currency concept would require investigation and more than likely the obvious hits you later.. it's a bad idea LOL
I have had a bunch of ideas but the more i thought of them the more holes i punched in the idea.
And the standard is VERY HIGH !


Never a truer word spoken IMO.

I've spent almost 4 years now solving the same problems Shelby is attempting.   I've thrown away more ideas and code than I care to think about.  Some of those ideas are doing the rounds now as the "next big thing" and I threw them away years ago as they weren't good enough or would have issues further down the line.

I think the problem is that because Bitcoin works, and block chains are "good enough" for most things, the perception is that it must be easy...as someones already done it to a sufficient degree.   It's far from easy though and Satoshi most likely took a number of years of R&D, trialing things out, throwing ideas and code away before he got to Bitcoin.

However, Shelby does spend TOO much time on this forum (and others) procrastinating and debating rather than doing!

Even if he has something fundamental that he can turn into a spectacular product he runs the risk of missing the boat and being the Betamax....or worse someone invents Betamax before him and markets it like VHS.

IMO the boat has already sailed...I'm VERY close and I have working code!  Save for some final critical testing a release is now imminent....I know others are also making progress and edging in on what he's trying to achieve too.

I look forward to seeing what you've been working on.  That being said I hope you would be willing consider a name change, because non-phonetic names have less potential to go viral.  If I heard someone talking about eMunie on that train I'd have no idea how it was spelled (could be eMoney, Muney, Monie, Monee, etc) and would be less likely to have it come up in a google search, Steem is a bad name for the same reason (the existence of the gaming platform Steam hasn't done them any favors either).  Bitcoin is great branding; self descriptive, easy to spell/remember, and unique.
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I wish "iamnotback" would just shut the fuck up, code and then come up with his Bitcoin killer already.

We don't really need a play by play of all his fucking shit.

Code you faggot and all the idiots on this forum will make you rich beyond your wildest dreams......unless all of this talk is just that...."dreams"....

Prove all your detractors wrong and stop hiding beyond all the bs.

Yes, you were ill but now you are on the mend.

So crack on and CODE!!
Think you just expressed what a thousand readers have thought, over the last few years. Thanks!


Legendary my ass.

This is why these ideas are better served in slack...away from legendary morons. What have you done in the last few years. Made a meme of a rocket maybe, fuck off. Have respect for someone far more knowledgeable and probably older than you. Fucking Milenials are gonna ruin the world with their Buzzfuck antics.
I had, and bought dinner for a staff member here, some weeks ago. What about you? Do you get out much and meet real-people in the Bitcoin world, or do you make that stupid mistake of judging people by what they just post? Good luck with that. 


You bought a meal, Well done! (pats gently on retards head)
And you have done what, in the Bitcoin world?


Nothing, just like you. But I don't attack those who do...
You just did, you dumb noob. LOL


Those as is 'have done something' keep up sweetheart. 
Hey, just curious....whats 'Buzzfuck antics'?
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I wish "iamnotback" would just shut the fuck up, code and then come up with his Bitcoin killer already.

We don't really need a play by play of all his fucking shit.

Code you faggot and all the idiots on this forum will make you rich beyond your wildest dreams......unless all of this talk is just that...."dreams"....

Prove all your detractors wrong and stop hiding beyond all the bs.

Yes, you were ill but now you are on the mend.

So crack on and CODE!!
Think you just expressed what a thousand readers have thought, over the last few years. Thanks!


Legendary my ass.

This is why these ideas are better served in slack...away from legendary morons. What have you done in the last few years. Made a meme of a rocket maybe, fuck off. Have respect for someone far more knowledgeable and probably older than you. Fucking Milenials are gonna ruin the world with their Buzzfuck antics.
I had, and bought dinner for a staff member here, some weeks ago. What about you? Do you get out much and meet real-people in the Bitcoin world, or do you make that stupid mistake of judging people by what they just post? Good luck with that. 


You bought a meal, Well done! (pats gently on retards head)
And you have done what, in the Bitcoin world?


Nothing, just like you. But I don't attack those who do...
You just did, you dumb noob. LOL


Those as is 'have done something' keep up sweetheart. 
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They're tactical
[ rarely ever an arm's length away from typing down any spontaneous thought.

Depends if the cofee machine is in the same room :p
legendary
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I wish "iamnotback" would just shut the fuck up, code and then come up with his Bitcoin killer already.

We don't really need a play by play of all his fucking shit.

Code you faggot and all the idiots on this forum will make you rich beyond your wildest dreams......unless all of this talk is just that...."dreams"....

Prove all your detractors wrong and stop hiding beyond all the bs.

Yes, you were ill but now you are on the mend.

So crack on and CODE!!
Think you just expressed what a thousand readers have thought, over the last few years. Thanks!


Legendary my ass.

This is why these ideas are better served in slack...away from legendary morons. What have you done in the last few years. Made a meme of a rocket maybe, fuck off. Have respect for someone far more knowledgeable and probably older than you. Fucking Milenials are gonna ruin the world with their Buzzfuck antics.
I had, and bought dinner for a staff member here, some weeks ago. What about you? Do you get out much and meet real-people in the Bitcoin world, or do you make that stupid mistake of judging people by what they just post? Good luck with that. 


You bought a meal, Well done! (pats gently on retards head)
And you have done what, in the Bitcoin world?


Nothing, just like you. But I don't attack those who do...
You just did, you dumb noob. LOL
sr. member
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I wish "iamnotback" would just shut the fuck up, code and then come up with his Bitcoin killer already.

We don't really need a play by play of all his fucking shit.

Code you faggot and all the idiots on this forum will make you rich beyond your wildest dreams......unless all of this talk is just that...."dreams"....

Prove all your detractors wrong and stop hiding beyond all the bs.

Yes, you were ill but now you are on the mend.

So crack on and CODE!!
Think you just expressed what a thousand readers have thought, over the last few years. Thanks!


Legendary my ass.

This is why these ideas are better served in slack...away from legendary morons. What have you done in the last few years. Made a meme of a rocket maybe, fuck off. Have respect for someone far more knowledgeable and probably older than you. Fucking Milenials are gonna ruin the world with their Buzzfuck antics.
I had, and bought dinner for a staff member here, some weeks ago. What about you? Do you get out much and meet real-people in the Bitcoin world, or do you make that stupid mistake of judging people by what they just post? Good luck with that. 


You bought a meal, Well done! (pats gently on retards head)
And you have done what, in the Bitcoin world?


Nothing, just like you. But I don't attack those who do...
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...whatever it is you claim to be doing.

As if anybody knew what Satoshi was doing until Nov 1, 2008:

http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg09959.html

Even if I tried to explain the detail of what I am doing, you would still think it is nonsense because it is all gibberish to you.
legendary
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Seriously, get a dog, and walk it. Welcome to the real world.

I have a dog. The ladies walk it. Walking the dog requires I leave my desk (and consumes more than 2 minutes). A hacker sleeps under and eats at his desk and is rarely ever an arm's length away from typing down any spontaneous thought.

Don't fill up this thread with nonsense. You don't understand intense programming. Get off our lawn.
Ha. That would be ironically funny, if it wasnt so tragic.
Ok, my dog has stopped shitting on your lawn now. Good luck, whatever it is you claim to be doing.
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