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Seriously, get a dog, and walk it. Welcome to the real world.

I have a dog. The ladies walk it. Walking the dog requires I leave my desk (and consumes more than 2 minutes). A hacker sleeps under and eats at his desk and is rarely ever an arm's length away from typing down any spontaneous thought.

Don't fill up this thread with nonsense. You don't understand intense programming. Get off our lawn.
legendary
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52, and you still think this is what you should be doing^^^. Pathetic.

It is hacker humor. Something you obviously have no knowledge of. Programming for 16 hours is known to cause hackers to take 2 minutes to humorously point out a fool and blow off some steam before heading back into the cave where real work gets done.
Arrh. I see the problem now......constantly listening to your own echo, day in, day out, would be enough to send anyone a bit mad.
Seriously, get a dog, and walk it. Welcome to the real world.   
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52, and you still think this is what you should be doing^^^. Pathetic.

It is hacker humor. Something you obviously have no knowledge of. Programming for 16 hours is known to cause hackers to take 2 minutes to humorously point out a fool and blow off some steam before heading back into the cave where real work gets done.

@Shelby. Serious question....  who have you actually met in RL in the Bitcoin world?

That you think meeting in person is a productive use of time exemplifies you don't have any knowledge at all about how real work gets done on programming.
legendary
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@Shelby. Serious question....  who have you actually met in RL in the Bitcoin world?
legendary
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I had, and bought dinner for a staff member here, some weeks ago.


52, and you still think this is what you should be doing^^^. Pathetic.
legendary
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I wish "iamnotback" would just shut the fuck up, code and then come up with his Bitcoin killer already.

We don't really need a play by play of all his fucking shit.

Code you faggot and all the idiots on this forum will make you rich beyond your wildest dreams......unless all of this talk is just that...."dreams"....

Prove all your detractors wrong and stop hiding beyond all the bs.

Yes, you were ill but now you are on the mend.

So crack on and CODE!!
Think you just expressed what a thousand readers have thought, over the last few years. Thanks!


Legendary my ass.

This is why these ideas are better served in slack...away from legendary morons. What have you done in the last few years. Made a meme of a rocket maybe, fuck off. Have respect for someone far more knowledgeable and probably older than you. Fucking Milenials are gonna ruin the world with their Buzzfuck antics.
I had, and bought dinner for a staff member here, some weeks ago. What about you? Do you get out much and meet real-people in the Bitcoin world, or do you make that stupid mistake of judging people by what they just post? Good luck with that. 


You bought a meal, Well done! (pats gently on retards head)
And you have done what, in the Bitcoin world?
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I had, and bought dinner for a staff member here, some weeks ago.

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I wish "iamnotback" would just shut the fuck up, code and then come up with his Bitcoin killer already.

We don't really need a play by play of all his fucking shit.

Code you faggot and all the idiots on this forum will make you rich beyond your wildest dreams......unless all of this talk is just that...."dreams"....

Prove all your detractors wrong and stop hiding beyond all the bs.

Yes, you were ill but now you are on the mend.

So crack on and CODE!!
Think you just expressed what a thousand readers have thought, over the last few years. Thanks!


Legendary my ass.

This is why these ideas are better served in slack...away from legendary morons. What have you done in the last few years. Made a meme of a rocket maybe, fuck off. Have respect for someone far more knowledgeable and probably older than you. Fucking Milenials are gonna ruin the world with their Buzzfuck antics.
I had, and bought dinner for a staff member here, some weeks ago. What about you? Do you get out much and meet real-people in the Bitcoin world, or do you make that stupid mistake of judging people by what they just post? Good luck with that. 


You bought a meal, Well done! (pats gently on retards head)
legendary
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In his defense though it does require proper thought.
And each idea can be a dead end with wasted time.
A currency concept would require investigation and more than likely the obvious hits you later.. it's a bad idea LOL
I have had a bunch of ideas but the more i thought of them the more holes i punched in the idea.
And the standard is VERY HIGH !


Never a truer word spoken IMO.

I've spent almost 4 years now solving the same problems Shelby is attempting.   I've thrown away more ideas and code than I care to think about.  Some of those ideas are doing the rounds now as the "next big thing" and I threw them away years ago as they weren't good enough or would have issues further down the line.

I think the problem is that because Bitcoin works, and block chains are "good enough" for most things, the perception is that it must be easy...as someones already done it to a sufficient degree.   It's far from easy though and Satoshi most likely took a number of years of R&D, trialing things out, throwing ideas and code away before he got to Bitcoin.

However, Shelby does spend TOO much time on this forum (and others) procrastinating and debating rather than doing!

Even if he has something fundamental that he can turn into a spectacular product he runs the risk of missing the boat and being the Betamax....or worse someone invents Betamax before him and markets it like VHS.

IMO the boat has already sailed...I'm VERY close and I have working code!  Save for some final critical testing a release is now imminent....I know others are also making progress and edging in on what he's trying to achieve too.
legendary
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I wish "iamnotback" would just shut the fuck up, code and then come up with his Bitcoin killer already.

We don't really need a play by play of all his fucking shit.

Code you faggot and all the idiots on this forum will make you rich beyond your wildest dreams......unless all of this talk is just that...."dreams"....

Prove all your detractors wrong and stop hiding beyond all the bs.

Yes, you were ill but now you are on the mend.

So crack on and CODE!!
Think you just expressed what a thousand readers have thought, over the last few years. Thanks!


Legendary my ass.

This is why these ideas are better served in slack...away from legendary morons. What have you done in the last few years. Made a meme of a rocket maybe, fuck off. Have respect for someone far more knowledgeable and probably older than you. Fucking Milenials are gonna ruin the world with their Buzzfuck antics.
I had, and bought dinner for a staff member here, some weeks ago. What about you? Do you get out much and meet real-people in the Bitcoin world, or do you make that stupid mistake of judging people by what they just post? Good luck with that. 
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
No, just realistic. It's the most logic outcome. He really seem like a nice guy so i don't have anything against him. But do you really believe someone profficient in blockchain technology would stay on the sidelines for 7-8 years before actually doing anything ? Do you really think he used all this time to research and build something world changing in the blockchain space as he'd like to think ? All he did so far is point fingers and kept claiming how flawed every project is, without doing much himself. Hey, i can do that and i'm not a programmer.
So the logic outcome is this, assuming he wouldn't outright scam or deliver something insignifiant in an attempt to save face but that couldn't justify the hype nor the funds raised: eventually, with enough hype he can raise few million $, maybe. He then would take something like steem, change it a bit and that's it, best case scenario.

Yeah, and what if he had done what everyone else did instead, started some coin with sub-optimal technology and be now stuck with it, unable to fork away from his investors. Well he could do what many do and that is to just leave the failed project and a lot of people feeling scammed and start a new one, but maybe he's more decent than your average altcoin dev. It is irresponsible to launch a financial instrument knowing it will be a failure. The less qualified devs do not see in advance what will be a failure and won't have such inhibitions against launching new coins.

How do you know he hasn't ?
He had listed at least 7 forum accounts he has made here and is stubborn and obtuse.
He has no idea why his main old account was even banned and claims conspiracy.
Clearly "the man" was keeping him down.. Big Illuminati etc.

I am not trying to be mean but it speaks volumes when he plays bum-buddy with Risto for a half decade.
Both are mentally ill.
One of them admitted it and the other is obvious.

Me thinks buddy likes his crypto-pundit position.
But there is little excuse i think..
A week ago i installed Visual Studio and modded some code and clicked build (build time was 1.17 seconds)
And it took about 20 minutes to install the IDE..
So when you have YEARS of running your mouth stalling i have to wonder.
Don't forget he WAS already quoted saying his "Bitcoin Killer" would be released in early 2017.
..times up bud Wink

In his defense though it does require proper thought.
And each idea can be a dead end with wasted time.
A currency concept would require investigation and more than likely the obvious hits you later.. it's a bad idea LOL
I have had a bunch of ideas but the more i thought of them the more holes i punched in the idea.
And the standard is VERY HIGH !

He enjoys his instant gratification he gets from parading around here as the expert on everything.
A massive ego stroking..
That would be gone if he had to bury his head in code 4 the next few months.
And he said himself that a project like Bitcoin etc can NOT be created unless you get an ICO of millions for dev funds.

I could tell by his subtle play on words he was positioning himself to launch his own and he backed out when i confronted him and laughed at him.
But he did !
He spent the last year or two calling every ICO that came along a scam.. riding around on my coat-tails the whole time.. then ...... carefully wording things so he could do his own LOL

The point to an ICO is the launch.
The point to the coin is the initial distribution.
So..
If he has a Bitcoin Killer then he would have a better initial distribution model ..than an ICO
and he does NOT .
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They're tactical
I saw the discussion went on rust too, and there was a very good discussion on this topic on devos too, with a guy who was firm supporter of rust to develop os, but another person explained that in fact the whole concept of rust unsafe code make it actually virtually useless, specially if you want to see the broad picture at system level, it's impossible to have an operating system made only out of safe code, and from the moment you have 'unsafe code' it mean the whole rest of the program is vulnerable to issues in those unsafe zone, which make the real usefulness of rust rather low all together. Maybe for some purpose it can still make memory handling more easier in certain case, but if the application has to make use of any unsafe code, and ultimately there will always be unsafe code executed somewhere in the whole software stack to the cpu, so it's more fake impression of security, or maybe a better way to organize data and code to avoid certain mistake, but certainly not silver bullet.

You are pointing out the brittleness of relying on total orders, because total orders don't exist over the entire universe. The challenges of blockchain consensus is tied into this fact.


Beyond this, there is the whole Turing Halting pb, and the whole theory saying Turing like computer program are fundamentally unpredictible , even with 100% tape based standalone computer, add interrupt, thread to this, and you are not far from chaos Wink

All framework or high level language do is adding more restriction in the synthaxe to have more determined state and less freedom, to increase predictibility.

But I believe much more in good runtime rather than more complex language and compiler , all expérience like intel atom who wanted to rely on compile time order didn't show very good result.


There are experience with Lisp to define complete grammatical language interpretation that are interesting, but anything in between for me nah  Grin


My goal is more to get to something like this with protocol message parsing based on data definition tree template, to have good runtime type checking, and compiler/system independant code who can be executed in distributed environment with a layer above the compiler to deal with data location/availability/sharing with the layer of the data tree, directly from C language compiled to binary machine code.


https://github.com/iadix/purenode/blob/master/protocol_adx/protocol.c#L1363

With this there is all the comfort of high level language with soft typed reference tree, and still  easy to compile to cross compiler/system  binaries.

But I will probably develop higher level language script at some point to encapsulate modules and api and interface better, I looked into CHARM ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charm_(programming_language) )some time ago, it seemed to fit my purpose.
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They're tactical
So crack on and CODE!!

Blockchain is still bit more délicate to handle than the average code. It's almost nasa style where the code must have minimum update and works well everywhere the same, as it directly hold value the code must be really well studied inside and out, and lots of bugs or flaw can easily creep in, and have dramatic conséquences on the functioning of the project.
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Money often costs too much.
No, just realistic. It's the most logic outcome. He really seem like a nice guy so i don't have anything against him. But do you really believe someone profficient in blockchain technology would stay on the sidelines for 7-8 years before actually doing anything ? Do you really think he used all this time to research and build something world changing in the blockchain space as he'd like to think ? All he did so far is point fingers and kept claiming how flawed every project is, without doing much himself. Hey, i can do that and i'm not a programmer.
So the logic outcome is this, assuming he wouldn't outright scam or deliver something insignifiant in an attempt to save face but that couldn't justify the hype nor the funds raised: eventually, with enough hype he can raise few million $, maybe. He then would take something like steem, change it a bit and that's it, best case scenario.
I can completely follow this logic. All puzzle parts falling into the right places. To my mind Anonymint would make a great addition in a bigger developper team where the others can set him back on track occasionally. XMR been imaginable at some point in time. That guy has potential, it's just wasted.
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No, just realistic. It's the most logic outcome. He really seem like a nice guy so i don't have anything against him. But do you really believe someone profficient in blockchain technology would stay on the sidelines for 7-8 years before actually doing anything ? Do you really think he used all this time to research and build something world changing in the blockchain space as he'd like to think ? All he did so far is point fingers and kept claiming how flawed every project is, without doing much himself. Hey, i can do that and i'm not a programmer.
So the logic outcome is this, assuming he wouldn't outright scam or deliver something insignifiant in an attempt to save face but that couldn't justify the hype nor the funds raised: eventually, with enough hype he can raise few million $, maybe. He then would take something like steem, change it a bit and that's it, best case scenario.

Yeah, and what if he had done what everyone else did instead, started some coin with sub-optimal technology and be now stuck with it, unable to fork away from his investors. Well he could do what many do and that is to just leave the failed project and a lot of people feeling scammed and start a new one, but maybe he's more decent than your average altcoin dev. It is irresponsible to launch a financial instrument knowing it will be a failure. The less qualified devs do not see in advance what will be a failure and won't have such inhibitions against launching new coins.
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I have been following Coval on their slack, Michael Sullivan and Shannon Code seem like guys who just want to build something and not build the next scam.

I'll take a peek. Thanks for the tip. Suggestions on good developers are always welcome. I also have some interest in Steem's core developer (he writes excellent code) and we've exchange comments already on Steemit.

I had commented on Coval in November.

I commented about Shannon Code and even today I still can't find the open source repo.
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I saw the discussion went on rust too, and there was a very good discussion on this topic on devos too, with a guy who was firm supporter of rust to develop os, but another person explained that in fact the whole concept of rust unsafe code make it actually virtually useless, specially if you want to see the broad picture at system level, it's impossible to have an operating system made only out of safe code, and from the moment you have 'unsafe code' it mean the whole rest of the program is vulnerable to issues in those unsafe zone, which make the real usefulness of rust rather low all together. Maybe for some purpose it can still make memory handling more easier in certain case, but if the application has to make use of any unsafe code, and ultimately there will always be unsafe code executed somewhere in the whole software stack to the cpu, so it's more fake impression of security, or maybe a better way to organize data and code to avoid certain mistake, but certainly not silver bullet.

You are pointing out the brittleness of relying on total orders, because total orders don't exist over the entire universe. The challenges of blockchain consensus is tied into this fact.

But the way we get around this is by forming partial orders (<--- this link contains a link to a presentation on Ethereum's Casper including Vitalik and Greg Meredith from RChain/Synereo).

However with blockchain consensus we need eventual consistency with a total order over all transactions. Blockchain consensus scaling decentralized is a very, very difficult problem to solve. Vitalik has not solved it. Casper (and even Byteball) will only work centralized. He damn well knows that and that is why technobabble research with Greg Meredith is ongoing (they are still searching/researching).
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He posts here because here are the investors.

True, but I don't only post here. I am posting much more in discussions with experts.

he's aware that THIS is his chance to get out of the mud and live a decent life

True, but I already wrote that money isn't a sufficient motivation by itself:

Most people in crypto now are in it for money, it is only Satoshi that is in this because he has the vision, but most people will ask what about the 1 million Bitcoin stash but who has any proof that he has been spending it.

For example, to say I am in it only for the money and not for my vision is going to be mistake on your part.

Creators never do something only for the money. If I mostly wanted money, I would have manipulated with reputation and launched a snazzy ICO already.

In my case, I am doing it for: a) expression of my creativity, b) love of the process and challenge of creating (i.e. not boring), and c) because I want to have an impact. Yes I do need money, but I choose my work based on those a - c as my overriding priorities. I trust society to reward money (capital) to those who prove they allocate capital resources efficiently.

I don't want to make money cheating people. I want to make money helping people. I want to compete in a meritocracy. It is a fundamental difference. A society of fraud collapses into MadMax destruction.



I'm 99.9(9)% confident he won't deliver a working product

The more you write me off, the more motivated I am to shock you.

...but I want to actually succeed in the real adoption market and I see that as I challenge and I want to be victorious as this is my career ending move). I am ready to go for that challenge if I can simply be granted the health so I can go back to doing what I love, which are taking on big challenges and coding voraciously to make them reality.

...For now, I am fighting to get where I want to be. So talking won't really mean anything at this point, other than to set the record straight on what I am dealing with and what I am trying to do.




As i know, he's well over 50 years old, do you really think he's doing the kind of research buterin does or even compare to him ?

Lol:

But for example whereas Ethereum never had a consensus system design ever locked down ever. Not even now. I have my whitepaper with the design all spelled out in great detail and locked down already.



He is like 3-4 years behind any decent competition

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Real artists ship.
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If you dont want to wait you can go somewhere else, or create something on your own If you think its that easy. I personally prefer to wait more to get a great result than getting a shitty/sloppy one from rushing it.

I fully agree. That said, the trap iamnotback may fall into, and I have fallen in such a trap in the past too, is:
"the best is the enemy of the good".
By being too perfectionist, and by being too intelligent to fail to see the flaws in your design, you end up never delivering.  While the guy that is somewhat less smart, and *didn't even see the problem* will deliver something (that will have a problem, true, but everything has problems).  If you hold back, because you have *understood* that your idea has a problem, you're not doing, what the less smart guy or girl is doing without realizing that there was a problem, but delivers, nevertheless.
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