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August 26, 2019, 07:32:46 AM
For me, yes hard working counts in gambling because you can't only trust in luck some game in gambling needs strategy and skills so that you can win easily or you have a considerable percentage to win/overcome your other opponents. Experience is very significant in gambling, especially if you are playing some poker because you can master your bluffing skills, card counting, and many more. Smiley


Experience is much required with gambling. To gain this experience one needs to loss big. Very few get to be lucky with gambling. From my understanding hard work with gambling gets good results when it is done with sports betting, which means data gathering about the players and all about the game will help in picking the right odds. With casinos I don't find hard work pays.

That's the kind of game that is good for us to focus, it's called a skilled based game and we have a chance to be consistent if we will develop our skills in the long run. However, we need to understand that this isn't an easy journey, gambling journey towards success is harder compared to the journey traders are going. Hardwork may only payout if we have the passion in what we are doing, because if not, it will not inspire us to learn and continue to look for an effective strategy that would make us become a successful gambler.
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August 25, 2019, 11:45:22 AM
For me, yes hard working counts in gambling because you can't only trust in luck some game in gambling needs strategy and skills so that you can win easily or you have a considerable percentage to win/overcome your other opponents. Experience is very significant in gambling, especially if you are playing some poker because you can master your bluffing skills, card counting, and many more. Smiley


Experience is much required with gambling. To gain this experience one needs to loss big. Very few get to be lucky with gambling. From my understanding hard work with gambling gets good results when it is done with sports betting, which means data gathering about the players and all about the game will help in picking the right odds. With casinos I don't find hard work pays.
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August 25, 2019, 11:06:27 AM
For me, yes hard working counts in gambling because you can't only trust in luck some game in gambling needs strategy and skills so that you can win easily or you have a considerable percentage to win/overcome your other opponents. Experience is very significant in gambling, especially if you are playing some poker because you can master your bluffing skills, card counting, and many more. Smiley

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August 25, 2019, 07:19:37 AM
More precisely not hard work but experience in the gambling game. Every game will be different, for example in poker. You can not only work hard in poker, it takes experienced people, namely in the form of strategy in order to win in every poker game.
Same thoughts here. I think it's better to call it 'experience' rather than 'hard work'. In experience, it's a lighter means of saying that you have developed techniques and strategies to win. And as a saying goes, experience is the best teacher. Anyway, at the end of the day, it's still a matter of self-control so that you can maximize the win and minimize the loss. 
Correct, experienced pays a lot whenever you play the game, it's about how good you learned from every try that you've made, once you developed good strategies then you'll find the right management to work everything out in your favor, it's your good judgement to place every single decision in the right place and the right time, take your call where your knowledge is more advantage.
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August 25, 2019, 01:10:20 AM
More precisely not hard work but experience in the gambling game. Every game will be different, for example in poker. You can not only work hard in poker, it takes experienced people, namely in the form of strategy in order to win in every poker game.
Same thoughts here. I think it's better to call it 'experience' rather than 'hard work'. In experience, it's a lighter means of saying that you have developed techniques and strategies to win. And as a saying goes, experience is the best teacher. Anyway, at the end of the day, it's still a matter of self-control so that you can maximize the win and minimize the loss. 
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August 24, 2019, 09:38:18 PM
I am curious to know if someone continually invested a lot of time in studying a game involved in gambling, further if he had played the game a lot to understand the intricacies involved, then can we call him an expert in that gambling game? If we do call him an expert then we clearly differentiate his experience and expertise from that of a novice. This clearly shows that the person is capable of winning more as an expert than the novice who really does not have the in-depth understanding of the play.

This brings us to an interesting question if hard work in gambling really pays off? If one puts in a lot of efforts to understand a game involved in gambling, does it mean that all his time has gone down the drain? Certainly no. If gambling were simply a blind guess or a wild shot then even years of studying it makes it useless because one is simply guessing the outcome blindly. But such is not the scenario with gambling in reality. What makes hard work count in gambling?

This further sets off the question of addiction in gambling. Work can also be an addiction for many. But here the addiction could be for perfecting the game and the art of playing. This kind of addiction is to struggle every time for success by proper calculation and review. However, addiction can also be due to pure greed of winning with no clear knowledge of the game. If hard work counts, then we may actually find a solution for a healthier addiction towards success in gambling.

Anything that you focus into will yield you result, but gambling is a different arena, there are intricacies and pitfalls that you should watch out, the first thing that you need to develop I believe is controlling if you don't have it you will not know when and how to stop when you are winning and when you are losing.

of all the fields gambling offer a different perspective compared to other fields, you will end up losing a lot of winning so much but each rewarding once you master your control and develop your own strategy.
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August 22, 2019, 08:13:46 AM
Well, I think that this thread is a part of an eternal discussion: do you treat gambling as a hobby or as a way of making money? If you want some thrill and you don't care about money, then surely, you don't have to work your ass off.

Though if you want to be successful, you have to spend time on your research and figuring out the best way to participate in different kinds of gambling activities. No matter if is it poker, dice, sports betting or anything else.

Everything in life needs knowledge and skills. Gambling is not an exception, even though that for gambling you need some luck from time to time.
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August 22, 2019, 05:08:04 AM
Yes for sure if we are getting money so we Will have to work hard and we should struggle to achieve our goals in gambling as well. It only take hard work to learn about gambling be ready to gather knowledge about gambling as much as you find the chance. Gambling has really great effect on your life if you gamble with full preparation.
I only consider work where physical labor should be hard work. Therefore, I do not attribute gambling to hard work. This is just entertainment.
^ Correct, no hard work in gambling because that is not involved with physical activity. You are also to be an addict on gambling if too much focus on it or what OP called hard work. Nevertheless, the more you are staying in gambling the more you become stressful and with the high chance of getting lose your fund. Do not treat this as your source of income, besides it is an entertainment purpose.
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August 22, 2019, 04:49:47 AM
Yes for sure if we are getting money so we Will have to work hard and we should struggle to achieve our goals in gambling as well. It only take hard work to learn about gambling be ready to gather knowledge about gambling as much as you find the chance. Gambling has really great effect on your life if you gamble with full preparation.
I only consider work where physical labor should be hard work. Therefore, I do not attribute gambling to hard work. This is just entertainment.
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August 22, 2019, 04:03:50 AM
I have repeatedly watched the game of poker among professionals who sit at the table for almost 12 hours and play, smoke and drink whiskey in great stress.  If the game begins in the evening, then in the morning these people are not only psychologically, but also physically exhausted.  I think that such a gamble is really so hard work.

Those are people you see on Tv,professional players who play poker for a living,poker is their life profession and they have a lot of money in real life.If you can manage to become one of them you have successfully solved your life from economical problems.

Average gamblers,normal people cannot stay up that long as they have to go to work,they can try a Saturday night in poker but they will not resist temptation and most probably they will lose all their money.Hard work does not count for a long time but it can be beneficial if applied right for a short amount of time.

Are those professional players have other job or business outside gambling? I think those people are already rich before gambling and they are able to use good amount of money for the sake of betting. If gambling is just the only thing they've done, I don't think they can have such huge amount of money. Btw, gambling is about luck. Hard work will give no big impact since luck won't care too much with such efforts.
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August 22, 2019, 12:41:12 AM
I have repeatedly watched the game of poker among professionals who sit at the table for almost 12 hours and play, smoke and drink whiskey in great stress.  If the game begins in the evening, then in the morning these people are not only psychologically, but also physically exhausted.  I think that such a gamble is really so hard work.

Those are people you see on Tv,professional players who play poker for a living,poker is their life profession and they have a lot of money in real life.If you can manage to become one of them you have successfully solved your life from economical problems.

Average gamblers,normal people cannot stay up that long as they have to go to work,they can try a Saturday night in poker but they will not resist temptation and most probably they will lose all their money.Hard work does not count for a long time but it can be beneficial if applied right for a short amount of time.

I think hard work counts especially when gambling is considered a job for them. They're really thinking hard just to win the game, did you know how hard to bluff an opponent. Well, I might consider it as hard work though. Not everyone can do that, it's a special skill and you must do hard work to maintain and fool the opponent and win the game.

For gamblers who are trying to make money and use gambling as their income source, they will be called that is hard work because they are learning many methods and sometimes it needs more time to master the skills. Yes, they will do whatever it needs so they can use the skills in gambling games, and that will help them to win the money.

But many gamblers who are using gambling as part of their life to get entertainment, they will not say that, but they can respect people who say that it is hard work for those people. It will be a different opinion if we talk about hard work in gambling because every gambler will have their idea.
Yes for sure if we are getting money so we Will have to work hard and we should struggle to achieve our goals in gambling as well. It only take hard work to learn about gambling be ready to gather knowledge about gambling as much as you find the chance. Gambling has really great effect on your life if you gamble with full preparation.
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August 19, 2019, 10:16:29 PM
I have repeatedly watched the game of poker among professionals who sit at the table for almost 12 hours and play, smoke and drink whiskey in great stress.  If the game begins in the evening, then in the morning these people are not only psychologically, but also physically exhausted.  I think that such a gamble is really so hard work.

Those are people you see on Tv,professional players who play poker for a living,poker is their life profession and they have a lot of money in real life.If you can manage to become one of them you have successfully solved your life from economical problems.

Average gamblers,normal people cannot stay up that long as they have to go to work,they can try a Saturday night in poker but they will not resist temptation and most probably they will lose all their money.Hard work does not count for a long time but it can be beneficial if applied right for a short amount of time.

I think hard work counts especially when gambling is considered a job for them. They're really thinking hard just to win the game, did you know how hard to bluff an opponent. Well, I might consider it as hard work though. Not everyone can do that, it's a special skill and you must do hard work to maintain and fool the opponent and win the game.

For gamblers who are trying to make money and use gambling as their income source, they will be called that is hard work because they are learning many methods and sometimes it needs more time to master the skills. Yes, they will do whatever it needs so they can use the skills in gambling games, and that will help them to win the money.

But many gamblers who are using gambling as part of their life to get entertainment, they will not say that, but they can respect people who say that it is hard work for those people. It will be a different opinion if we talk about hard work in gambling because every gambler will have their idea.
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August 11, 2019, 04:00:54 PM
I have repeatedly watched the game of poker among professionals who sit at the table for almost 12 hours and play, smoke and drink whiskey in great stress.  If the game begins in the evening, then in the morning these people are not only psychologically, but also physically exhausted.  I think that such a gamble is really so hard work.

Those are people you see on Tv,professional players who play poker for a living,poker is their life profession and they have a lot of money in real life.If you can manage to become one of them you have successfully solved your life from economical problems.

Average gamblers,normal people cannot stay up that long as they have to go to work,they can try a Saturday night in poker but they will not resist temptation and most probably they will lose all their money.Hard work does not count for a long time but it can be beneficial if applied right for a short amount of time.

I think hard work counts especially when gambling is considered a job for them. They're really thinking hard just to win the game, did you know how hard to bluff an opponent. Well, I might consider it as hard work though. Not everyone can do that, it's a special skill and you must do hard work to maintain and fool the opponent and win the game.
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August 07, 2019, 03:48:19 PM
I have repeatedly watched the game of poker among professionals who sit at the table for almost 12 hours and play, smoke and drink whiskey in great stress.  If the game begins in the evening, then in the morning these people are not only psychologically, but also physically exhausted.  I think that such a gamble is really so hard work.

Those are people you see on Tv,professional players who play poker for a living,poker is their life profession and they have a lot of money in real life.If you can manage to become one of them you have successfully solved your life from economical problems.

Average gamblers,normal people cannot stay up that long as they have to go to work,they can try a Saturday night in poker but they will not resist temptation and most probably they will lose all their money.Hard work does not count for a long time but it can be beneficial if applied right for a short amount of time.
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August 07, 2019, 07:19:04 AM
More precisely not hard work but experience in the gambling game. Every game will be different, for example in poker. You can not only work hard in poker, it takes experienced people, namely in the form of strategy in order to win in every poker game.
in such cases, it is not the hard work used, but the strategy in the game. because of this, experience is needed. many people play gambling without experience, and that has a big risk. even when you work hard at gambling, the results won't be what you try.

Maybe for some people, the meaning of hard work is because they learn to master the game, they spend their time to analyze, learn, and watch every lesson so they can have a high-skills. But for the other people, they will call that is an experience, and the process of learning is not the same as hard work. But all in all, we can not win easily although we already hard work or learn many methods for winning.
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August 07, 2019, 04:32:12 AM
For any gambling, the presence of certain knowledge is very important.  If you take for example card games, not only should you know this game fully and all its features, gamblers should have certain qualities.  Especially if a person has a phenomenal memory and mathematical abilities, then he will have a much greater chance of good results.  Therefore, to study and memorize, it is always hard work.
Maybe that's the fact with card games. When it comes to sports betting hard work pays as we analyze better and better gaining more information about the teams and its records which helps in choosing the odds. When it comes to most of the casions smart work as well as the limiting factors is the must that helps in getting wins.
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August 06, 2019, 02:48:39 PM
For any gambling, the presence of certain knowledge is very important.  If you take for example card games, not only should you know this game fully and all its features, gamblers should have certain qualities.  Especially if a person has a phenomenal memory and mathematical abilities, then he will have a much greater chance of good results.  Therefore, to study and memorize, it is always hard work.
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August 05, 2019, 08:39:00 AM
More precisely not hard work but experience in the gambling game. Every game will be different, for example in poker. You can not only work hard in poker, it takes experienced people, namely in the form of strategy in order to win in every poker game.
in such cases, it is not the hard work used, but the strategy in the game. because of this, experience is needed. many people play gambling without experience, and that has a big risk. even when you work hard at gambling, the results won't be what you try.
I agree if in gambling experience is needed. If you don't have experience, you will often experience defeat. Working hard is indeed necessary in gambling but it must be accompanied by your experience in playing gambling. With that you understand how the right strategy when playing.

Although we have much experience in gambling, it doesn't guarantee for us to get the win because we know that playing gambling need luck to get the win itself. No one will know if he can have luck while he plays gambling and we could only play with trying to enjoy the games, and if we can win, that means, we have that luck Grin
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August 05, 2019, 06:32:12 AM
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I forgot about that. Indeed, the more you play the higher amount you can claim from the faucet and the more rains you get. In this thread we are discussing mostly the impact of our experience on the outcomes of the games, and most of us agree that there is no such impact in the luck based games. But you are right regarding rains, faucets and tips from the mods. Maybe it's not that significant, but it's not nothing either.

But rain is never much, and even on the biggest sites I see the biggest rains are given to the highest levels of players, by various activity. Chatting, gambling, referring, or just seniority. Even so, the rewards aren't that big. You got to work hard I agree, but do something worthwhile. Don't spend all your time working hard to get bigger rains. Do a real job and learn something that earns you enough to eat.

It's been said millions of times that gambling is luck based and that hard work doesn't count in it, but we are trying to figure out here in what sections of gambling hard work counts, at least to some degree.

If you are saying that it's better to apply your hard work to learn something or to earn money in other than gambling fields, I completely agree with you, and yet I think it's interesting to speculate on whether hard work counts in gambling, at least a bit, or it doesn't count at all.
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August 04, 2019, 09:38:33 AM
Definitely yes because if it work in the real life then it can work in the gambling platform. In some gambling platform's, you are given rain based on your point and this point are your hard work on the gambling platforms, so, hard work will yield more profits if keep for a longer time on the platform.

I forgot about that. Indeed, the more you play the higher amount you can claim from the faucet and the more rains you get. In this thread we are discussing mostly the impact of our experience on the outcomes of the games, and most of us agree that there is no such impact in the luck based games. But you are right regarding rains, faucets and tips from the mods. Maybe it's not that significant, but it's not nothing either.

But rain is never much, and even on the biggest sites I see the biggest rains are given to the highest levels of players, by various activity. Chatting, gambling, referring, or just seniority. Even so, the rewards aren't that big. You got to work hard I agree, but do something worthwhile. Don't spend all your time working hard to get bigger rains. Do a real job and learn something that earns you enough to eat.
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