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Quote from: goaldigger on December 31, 2018, 10:49:39 AM

The only thing good about not expecting anything in return is that, you dont feel any stress for the entire game. You see, if the money you brought to game are intended to lose, you will experience fun and if ever you win, you will feel more delightful. Emotions and behavior is all about mindset, but winning is all about luck.

If gamblers would accept the fact that the money they are putting in gambling is for the their entertainment and not for the prospect of making money then if would not be hard to accept the loss for many of them. There are people who gamble for a living and they are rare of find but if you manage to actually talk to them even they would tell you how risky their lives are.

It does help to stop playing for a while when you are in a losing streak and your luck is not playing out and then play again when you are having nothing else to do.

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The only thing good about not expecting anything in return is that, you dont feel any stress for the entire game. You see, if the money you brought to game are intended to lose, you will experience fun and if ever you win, you will feel more delightful. Emotions and behavior is all about mindset, but winning is all about luck.

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Quote from: CTO@MyBitMine on November 29, 2018, 08:14:54 AM

It's a pretty nice theory, but probably it sounds realistic for me coz I'm not a hard gambler. It's too hard to understand that you are addicted from something and actually from gambling, those persons really need help from family and closer people imho.

When someone got addicted, he doesn't realize that, but people will see and maybe will tell him that he has a new bad habit. And if that people care with that person, he/she will help that person and will do anything to make him stop from gambling forever. But it's hard to find people like that because not all family will care with one of their members and they are too busy with themselves.

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Quote from: nl247 on July 10, 2018, 05:14:21 AM

Ok! I was actually trying to get reasons why people get addicted to gambling which we all know is more self inflicted. However, I came up with this theory for someone who may actually want to gamble and then would not want to get addicted based on trying to fix their mentality about it and I would like to seek your opinion on what you think about it, if it can actually end up working for any gambler or not.

The theory is;
If you want to gamble, see it more like you are paying the casino or gambling platform to have some fun (just like you do to go watch some movies in cinema), which if you are paying for anything, you are not meant to expect it back. The good thing however is that, you can actually end up being paid more for having that fun if you get lucky, but the chances of seeing that happen is pretty slim. In that light, if you cannot actually live with doing what I said above, then you should not be gambling at all.

Does this sound like a mentality that can help anyone understand what they are in for if they indeed want to gamble or something even those who are tending towards addiction can set their mind to so as not to get into that deep gambling hole that is hard to come out from?

I agree with your theory. However, gambling is strictly correlated with the chances of making a profit. There are many kinds of research and studies that show that people who are living in poor societies gamble more. With your theory, this service should be more for the rich people that can afford to pay for this service and eventually have fun. Gambling is a matter of expectations in my opinion, for getting something that is missing from you.

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It's a pretty nice theory, but probably it sounds realistic for me coz I'm not a hard gambler. It's too hard to understand that you are addicted from something and actually from gambling, those persons really need help from family and closer people imho.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on November 20, 2018, 11:37:09 AM

Actually there are few people who did that by some cheating methods but they were never allowed to eter into casinos because they can bankrupt their bankroll if they are continue to play there,I don't know which is true or not but I read that while I am scrolling newsfeeds.But in reality there is no way to win in long term other than cheating.

You are misinformed or did not go through the fine print. Anybody who is found cheating a casino would be restricted and the website patched to prevent such exploits again. For those who reveal bugs and such exploits that could be done are also rewarded for the same. Bottom line is if you cheat that you are plain thief and you will be tracked down by the casino owners for punishment as far as possible.

Thats where the problem comes in with anonymous currencies - they are said to be anonymous until people start using that info to track scammers. It not something bad in my opinion.

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Quote from: Janation on November 24, 2018, 07:49:02 PM

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Quote from: DaddyMonsi on November 14, 2018, 07:45:46 AM

Quote from: nl247 on July 10, 2018, 05:14:21 AM

If you want to gamble, see it more like you are paying the casino or gambling platform to have some fun (just like you do to go watch some movies in cinema), which if you are paying for anything, you are not meant to expect it back.

If every gambler thinks this way, no one will go home with a sad face thinking that they we're robbed by the gambling site. Problem with other gambler is they made gambling their way of life, they make a living out from it, daily they go to casinos or visit gambling sites thinking they can beat the system and get profits.

The addiction to gambling is very serious. When you are very interested in gambling, you will ignore life around you and always on the gambling website every day with the purpose to earn money, but it's impossible. So that if you want to join the gambling, you should arrange the time reasonably to balance between life and game.

Yes it is serious but it is not that kind of serious, maybe in cinemas but not in real life.

There are a lot of gambling addicts every where especially if you have a gambling places close, in our country there are also people that is addict on gambling but not really like what you just said. Cockfighting is one of the most popular gambling in our place or maybe in our country. It is not that bad since the government can control the addiction of it by limiting the gambling times in a week or some days.

Gambling addiction is a serious problem, mostly gambling addicts gamble cause they think they will win one day make a lot of profit and that will earn back everything they lost, when you expect too much from gambling its a way to bottom. Like OP said people should think about gambling like about some fun activity, with no expectations, risk to get addicted to gambling will became very low.

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Quote from: drlukacs on November 24, 2018, 06:59:13 PM

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Quote from: nl247 on July 10, 2018, 05:14:21 AM

If you want to gamble, see it more like you are paying the casino or gambling platform to have some fun (just like you do to go watch some movies in cinema), which if you are paying for anything, you are not meant to expect it back.

If every gambler thinks this way, no one will go home with a sad face thinking that they we're robbed by the gambling site. Problem with other gambler is they made gambling their way of life, they make a living out from it, daily they go to casinos or visit gambling sites thinking they can beat the system and get profits.

The addiction to gambling is very serious. When you are very interested in gambling, you will ignore life around you and always on the gambling website every day with the purpose to earn money, but it's impossible. So that if you want to join the gambling, you should arrange the time reasonably to balance between life and game.

Yes it is serious but it is not that kind of serious, maybe in cinemas but not in real life.

There are a lot of gambling addicts every where especially if you have a gambling places close, in our country there are also people that is addict on gambling but not really like what you just said. Cockfighting is one of the most popular gambling in our place or maybe in our country. It is not that bad since the government can control the addiction of it by limiting the gambling times in a week or some days.

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Quote from: DaddyMonsi on November 14, 2018, 07:45:46 AM

Quote from: nl247 on July 10, 2018, 05:14:21 AM

If you want to gamble, see it more like you are paying the casino or gambling platform to have some fun (just like you do to go watch some movies in cinema), which if you are paying for anything, you are not meant to expect it back.

If every gambler thinks this way, no one will go home with a sad face thinking that they we're robbed by the gambling site. Problem with other gambler is they made gambling their way of life, they make a living out from it, daily they go to casinos or visit gambling sites thinking they can beat the system and get profits.

The addiction to gambling is very serious. When you are very interested in gambling, you will ignore life around you and always on the gambling website every day with the purpose to earn money, but it's impossible. So that if you want to join the gambling, you should arrange the time reasonably to balance between life and game.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on November 20, 2018, 11:37:09 AM

Quote from: TheUltraElite on November 19, 2018, 11:29:53 AM

Quote from: onrise on November 15, 2018, 12:41:58 PM

Rarely people can beat the system else every casino in the world would have being shut down by now as if they do not make money how will they give money on winning it. It is that simple and why people do not understand this that their chances of winning is slim as compared to the house.

The only way to beat the casino is to cheat it. Mathematically it is not possible to run any method to get profit but only short term gains which if not withdrawn quickly would only go back to the cycle of win and loss just to add to the loss. If anybody till date could find a method to beat the casino than the gambling industry would not be alive anymore. But even short term gains are lost easily because people fail to stop after a number of wins.

Those who say they can beat the house of boast about doing so are plain liars.

Actually there are few people who did that by some cheating methods but they were never allowed to eter into casinos because they can bankrupt their bankroll if they are continue to play there,I don't know which is true or not but I read that while I am scrolling newsfeeds.But in reality there is no way to win in long term other than cheating.

Although they are cheating, they still cannot win the gambling games. Perhaps their method will work but it cannot work forever, and I am sure that the owner of the gambling place will know and will fix the problem. Besides that, not all people can win the games especially if they are against the house because the house has the power to beat every player. So we need to understand that whatever we did, in the end, we are only losing the money without any chance to recover and even we will get more losing if we stay for playing the game for a long time.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on November 19, 2018, 11:29:53 AM

Quote from: onrise on November 15, 2018, 12:41:58 PM

Rarely people can beat the system else every casino in the world would have being shut down by now as if they do not make money how will they give money on winning it. It is that simple and why people do not understand this that their chances of winning is slim as compared to the house.

The only way to beat the casino is to cheat it. Mathematically it is not possible to run any method to get profit but only short term gains which if not withdrawn quickly would only go back to the cycle of win and loss just to add to the loss. If anybody till date could find a method to beat the casino than the gambling industry would not be alive anymore. But even short term gains are lost easily because people fail to stop after a number of wins.

Those who say they can beat the house of boast about doing so are plain liars.

Agree. The thing with a lot of people is that they do not want to face reality and it seems when they get burned, they simply just want to lead people into the same ditch they fell into and then deceive them into thinking they can make shit load of money from gambling.

At the end of the day, for those who even managed to have won at some point in time, maybe people should go back in time and see how much they must have lost compared to how much they are winning now before judging. Facing reality when it comes to gambling will always be a problem with a lot of people and that is why reasoning with what OP has said, will be a bit hard for them.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on November 19, 2018, 11:29:53 AM

Quote from: onrise on November 15, 2018, 12:41:58 PM

Rarely people can beat the system else every casino in the world would have being shut down by now as if they do not make money how will they give money on winning it. It is that simple and why people do not understand this that their chances of winning is slim as compared to the house.

The only way to beat the casino is to cheat it. Mathematically it is not possible to run any method to get profit but only short term gains which if not withdrawn quickly would only go back to the cycle of win and loss just to add to the loss. If anybody till date could find a method to beat the casino than the gambling industry would not be alive anymore. But even short term gains are lost easily because people fail to stop after a number of wins.

Those who say they can beat the house of boast about doing so are plain liars.

Actually there are few people who did that by some cheating methods but they were never allowed to eter into casinos because they can bankrupt their bankroll if they are continue to play there,I don't know which is true or not but I read that while I am scrolling newsfeeds.But in reality there is no way to win in long term other than cheating.

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Quote from: Indamuck on November 11, 2018, 09:34:46 AM

Quote from: btcdevil on October 29, 2018, 07:20:09 PM

It is very easy to advice to say to do this and that to get rid of gambling addiction by doi g this and that but this advice won't work for even on 10% gamblers.

Gambling addiction starts by first playing for fun but when you lose high you start to this k how you lost and then you do more gambling and then this way you become addicted to gambling in recovering you're loss.

So the theory is that everything is on gamblers will to kill his full investment or forget the loss and leave with what left and live happily

I think some people are just born with a more addictive personality which causes them to get easily hooked on gambling. It isn't exactly the same but alcoholics tend to follow the addiction pattern of their other family members so we shouldn't put too much blame on individuals. Quite frankly, as long as they aren't harming other people I don't see a problem with it.

Addicted people are always harming others... Maybe the relatives, maybe the society.

Surely for most addicted gamblers it will be hard to stop the addiction, because they have a lot of difficult to control their emotions. To see a good time at casino like going to the movies can work for normal gamblers, they understand it and apply it on their lives without harming themselves and those who they love, but I believe it doesn't work the same way for the addicted ones. On the second case it's much more complicated.

Addicted gamblers needs to be treated as it will not bring positive into his life.
By nature, gambling is addictive so we should see that as a risk before we gamble, problem is, most of us only focus on the reward
which is the possible amount we can win, that's why they fail to realize how risky gambling is.

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Quote from: Indamuck on November 11, 2018, 09:34:46 AM

Quote from: btcdevil on October 29, 2018, 07:20:09 PM

It is very easy to advice to say to do this and that to get rid of gambling addiction by doi g this and that but this advice won't work for even on 10% gamblers.

Gambling addiction starts by first playing for fun but when you lose high you start to this k how you lost and then you do more gambling and then this way you become addicted to gambling in recovering you're loss.

So the theory is that everything is on gamblers will to kill his full investment or forget the loss and leave with what left and live happily

I think some people are just born with a more addictive personality which causes them to get easily hooked on gambling. It isn't exactly the same but alcoholics tend to follow the addiction pattern of their other family members so we shouldn't put too much blame on individuals. Quite frankly, as long as they aren't harming other people I don't see a problem with it.

Addicted people are always harming others... Maybe the relatives, maybe the society.

Surely for most addicted gamblers it will be hard to stop the addiction, because they have a lot of difficult to control their emotions. To see a good time at casino like going to the movies can work for normal gamblers, they understand it and apply it on their lives without harming themselves and those who they love, but I believe it doesn't work the same way for the addicted ones. On the second case it's much more complicated.

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Quote from: onrise on November 15, 2018, 12:41:58 PM

Rarely people can beat the system else every casino in the world would have being shut down by now as if they do not make money how will they give money on winning it. It is that simple and why people do not understand this that their chances of winning is slim as compared to the house.

The only way to beat the casino is to cheat it. Mathematically it is not possible to run any method to get profit but only short term gains which if not withdrawn quickly would only go back to the cycle of win and loss just to add to the loss. If anybody till date could find a method to beat the casino than the gambling industry would not be alive anymore. But even short term gains are lost easily because people fail to stop after a number of wins.

Those who say they can beat the house of boast about doing so are plain liars.

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Quote from: yvesp110 on November 15, 2018, 03:12:14 PM

Quote from: DaddyMonsi on November 14, 2018, 07:45:46 AM

Quote from: nl247 on July 10, 2018, 05:14:21 AM

If you want to gamble, see it more like you are paying the casino or gambling platform to have some fun (just like you do to go watch some movies in cinema), which if you are paying for anything, you are not meant to expect it back.

If every gambler thinks this way, no one will go home with a sad face thinking that they we're robbed by the gambling site. Problem with other gambler is they made gambling their way of life, they make a living out from it, daily they go to casinos or visit gambling sites thinking they can beat the system and get profits.

Yes thinking like this some of them really lose their money while hopping for earning it, the mistake most of gamblers use to do is they take it for fun not as business and serious way to make money, here you will not rely only on your luck but will have to use skills and knowledge too, but we cannot force anyone just let them make their own decision but really hopping for the good.

We know our capabilities, if we think we are good in gambling then we pursue our goal as that could satisfy us financially.
However, the reality is that most of us are not really good in gambling, that is why we keep losing while operators are enjoying our money.

We have freedom in gambling, we can do whatever we want as long as we have the money to bet but we should be responsible all the time.

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Quote from: DaddyMonsi on November 14, 2018, 07:45:46 AM

Quote from: nl247 on July 10, 2018, 05:14:21 AM

If you want to gamble, see it more like you are paying the casino or gambling platform to have some fun (just like you do to go watch some movies in cinema), which if you are paying for anything, you are not meant to expect it back.

If every gambler thinks this way, no one will go home with a sad face thinking that they we're robbed by the gambling site. Problem with other gambler is they made gambling their way of life, they make a living out from it, daily they go to casinos or visit gambling sites thinking they can beat the system and get profits.

Yes thinking like this some of them really lose their money while hopping for earning it, the mistake most of gamblers use to do is they take it for fun not as business and serious way to make money, here you will not rely only on your luck but will have to use skills and knowledge too, but we cannot force anyone just let them make their own decision but really hopping for the good.

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Quote from: DaddyMonsi on November 14, 2018, 07:45:46 AM

Quote from: nl247 on July 10, 2018, 05:14:21 AM

If you want to gamble, see it more like you are paying the casino or gambling platform to have some fun (just like you do to go watch some movies in cinema), which if you are paying for anything, you are not meant to expect it back.

If every gambler thinks this way, no one will go home with a sad face thinking that they we're robbed by the gambling site. Problem with other gambler is they made gambling their way of life, they make a living out from it, daily they go to casinos or visit gambling sites thinking they can beat the system and get profits.

Rarely people can beat the system else every casino in the world would have being shut down by now as if they do not make money how will they give money on winning it. It is that simple and why people do not understand this that their chances of winning is slim as compared to the house.

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Quote from: nl247 on July 10, 2018, 05:14:21 AM

If you want to gamble, see it more like you are paying the casino or gambling platform to have some fun (just like you do to go watch some movies in cinema), which if you are paying for anything, you are not meant to expect it back.

If every gambler thinks this way, no one will go home with a sad face thinking that they we're robbed by the gambling site. Problem with other gambler is they made gambling their way of life, they make a living out from it, daily they go to casinos or visit gambling sites thinking they can beat the system and get profits.

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Quote from: Indamuck on November 11, 2018, 09:34:46 AM

I think some people are just born with a more addictive personality which causes them to get easily hooked on gambling.

The reason we have people to guide us and teach us moral values is to prevent this. People question their elders advice and think they are going to make their own rules but they soon realize when they harm themselves that they should have listened. Its the same for any habit you know. Being born with something that is bad is not bad, if you have the determination to take control.

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It isn't exactly the same but alcoholics tend to follow the addiction pattern of their other family members so we shouldn't put too much blame on individuals. Quite frankly, as long as they aren't harming other people I don't see a problem with it.

Like I said, you will not harm anybody if you are going to keep control. There will be times where people lose control and they need to cautious about it. Same with gambling. If you have control over it you wont hurt yourself or your family.

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