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Quote from: ocid on October 19, 2018, 05:17:18 PM

besides, use dead money to do gambling for example money from trade or other benefits, do not spend capital to gamble from the private pocket that we have so that when we experience a loss do not feel too lost because the money we play to gamble is money from profits we get from other results and aim to be developed from the results of these benefits.

Why would you even want to waste money that you made from trading into gambling? If you are someone who is diligent about taking care of their own asset this would not be the option you would think of. The phrase "spare money" is an oxymoron. There are people in this world who beg for a piece of bread to feed themselves while there are people who are so rich they waste their food. Use that spare money you get to something more fruitful than gambling it away.

We see a lot of people sulking in casino chatrooms about making money from trading then wasting it away - dont be one of those. Be decisive and take your money into your hands.

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In all honesty there are still gambling ways that can make you rich in a single second, it is not poker or it is not dice but it is lottery. You can't really get "addicted" to lottery, the major ones that give out millions of dollars are usually once or twice a year at most and how much tickets could you really buy ?

So, I still hold belief that the most innocent gambling game is lottery and you can get like 5-10 tickets (some people get hundreds, those are really crazy people) and with that method maybe who knows you can have millions of dollars one day but probably not. Aside from lottery anyone who believes "it won't happen to me" and lose all of their money are really just people who are dreaming, there is a house edge, you will lose, there is no method, there is no system, there is no strategy that will change house edge to your favor at all.

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Quote from: mornabo on October 19, 2018, 06:43:46 AM

Quote from: lienfaye on October 15, 2018, 04:42:06 PM

Well that's how we should set our mind when we gamble but majority of gamblers are thinking they can earn money through it and its not just for entertainment like what you have said.

Nowadays gambling for ordinary people are like a source of income that can double their money in snap and can give them fortune, because of this they tend to became addicted for trying to get back the money they lost.

Using your hard-earned money to gamble is the other reason why its hard to accept gambling is only for fun and you should not expect anything in return.

Thats the point dude, that's what makes players become addicts, because many of them have the goal of making money from gambling, even many people use gambling as their main source of income, of course that is a wrong mindset if gambling is likened to gain wealth

most addicts seems dont have a lot of ideas about how to make money, dont know where else they get income, so they only know gambling

They are sorting it from an easy access, they look at it as fair enough as you will see the outcome much quicker, those who wanted to have a quick access to see the gain or loses finds gambling as the best resources, for someone who just look at gambling as a source of entertaining they will always find positive approach so even they win or they loses they still find happy things with their experiences.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on October 17, 2018, 09:09:18 AM

Sometimes, when we talk about professional gamblers, I actually have only seen most people who just managed to get lucky at the end of it all, and in that case, when you have to compare that to a lot of people who were never lucky, you will get more of the latter than the former.

Not the case with Dan Bilzerian. Or is it? I have seen videos of him sharing his tactics. I mean the guy's a billionaire from gambling.

Quote from: el kaka22 on October 17, 2018, 09:09:18 AM

People tend to make the mistake of trying to want to win something big from gambling because they have heard some people winning huge amount of money, but one thing I want to clarify is that, when 1 person is winning, 99 others are really losing badly which is why the chances of winning will always be something difficult to come by.

Yep, it's called survivorship bias. People only take the winning or successful events seriously ignoring the majority of unsuccessful attempts.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on October 17, 2018, 09:09:18 AM

Quote from: leowonderful on October 15, 2018, 07:01:30 PM

There are indeed professional gamblers out there, but it takes lots of practice and learning, and it's definitely not something for everyone. You've got to have lots of discipline to make money from gambling, and an ability to adapt to change- this Reddit thread features a person that is supposedly a professional gambler answering questions about his occupation and other things, and I think this is a relatively interesting read, but it's going to take lots of time to gain the skills to make money from gambling; again, people put thousands of hours into this, and it's definitely not for everyone.

Sometimes, when we talk about professional gamblers, I actually have only seen most people who just managed to get lucky at the end of it all, and in that case, when you have to compare that to a lot of people who were never lucky, you will get more of the latter than the former.

People tend to make the mistake of trying to want to win something big from gambling because they have heard some people winning huge amount of money, but one thing I want to clarify is that, when 1 person is winning, 99 others are really losing badly which is why the chances of winning will always be something difficult to come by.

If we see the verdicts of gambling we will find it bad. it is not easy for everyone to make money from gambling even skilled gamblers lose their money due to regular gambling. I have seen thousands of gamblers that lost their money although they also have won many times but in ambling the worst thing is greed. When a gambler wins he greed for money and finally loses all his money.

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Quote from: nl247 on July 10, 2018, 05:14:21 AM

Ok! I was actually trying to get reasons why people get addicted to gambling which we all know is more self inflicted. However, I came up with this theory for someone who may actually want to gamble and then would not want to get addicted based on trying to fix their mentality about it and I would like to seek your opinion on what you think about it, if it can actually end up working for any gambler or not.

The theory is;
If you want to gamble, see it more like you are paying the casino or gambling platform to have some fun (just like you do to go watch some movies in cinema), which if you are paying for anything, you are not meant to expect it back. The good thing however is that, you can actually end up being paid more for having that fun if you get lucky, but the chances of seeing that happen is pretty slim. In that light, if you cannot actually live with doing what I said above, then you should not be gambling at all.

Does this sound like a mentality that can help anyone understand what they are in for if they indeed want to gamble or something even those who are tending towards addiction can set their mind to so as not to get into that deep gambling hole that is hard to come out from?

Then in my own conclusion, gambling is purely based on luck. Even if you are new or veteran in gambling if you are not lucky to win, you will eventually lose your resources if you get addicted to it. So see to it that when you gamble, make sure to gamble only the amount that is not needed for your daily expenses and savings.

Your conclusion is totally wrong. You can win only dice game with your luck and no other game. If so then every lucky man would be the billionaire but there is nothing like this. Luck is just a factor in gambling but not the guarantee for winning a game. With luck you should also be very skilled and experienced gambler then your winning chances will enhance.

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In gambling you must be prepared to accept the risk of either winning or losing. If you don't want to be addicted don't expect to gamble. It is unlikely that you will always win gambling, so accept that when you lose it will make you better and will not be addicted to gambling.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on October 13, 2018, 01:30:49 AM

Quote from: nl247 on July 10, 2018, 05:14:21 AM

Ok! I was actually trying to get reasons why people get addicted to gambling which we all know is more self inflicted. However, I came up with this theory for someone who may actually want to gamble and then would not want to get addicted based on trying to fix their mentality about it and I would like to seek your opinion on what you think about it, if it can actually end up working for any gambler or not.

The theory is;
If you want to gamble, see it more like you are paying the casino or gambling platform to have some fun (just like you do to go watch some movies in cinema), which if you are paying for anything, you are not meant to expect it back. The good thing however is that, you can actually end up being paid more for having that fun if you get lucky, but the chances of seeing that happen is pretty slim. In that light, if you cannot actually live with doing what I said above, then you should not be gambling at all.

Does this sound like a mentality that can help anyone understand what they are in for if they indeed want to gamble or something even those who are tending towards addiction can set their mind to so as not to get into that deep gambling hole that is hard to come out from?

Then in my own conclusion, gambling is purely based on luck. Even if you are new or veteran in gambling if you are not lucky to win, you will eventually lose your resources if you get addicted to it. So see to it that when you gamble, make sure to gamble only the amount that is not needed for your daily expenses and savings.

besides, use dead money to do gambling for example money from trade or other benefits, do not spend capital to gamble from the private pocket that we have so that when we experience a loss do not feel too lost because the money we play to gamble is money from profits we get from other results and aim to be developed from the results of these benefits.

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Quote from: lienfaye on October 15, 2018, 04:42:06 PM

Well that's how we should set our mind when we gamble but majority of gamblers are thinking they can earn money through it and its not just for entertainment like what you have said.

Nowadays gambling for ordinary people are like a source of income that can double their money in snap and can give them fortune, because of this they tend to became addicted for trying to get back the money they lost.

Using your hard-earned money to gamble is the other reason why its hard to accept gambling is only for fun and you should not expect anything in return.

Thats the point dude, that's what makes players become addicts, because many of them have the goal of making money from gambling, even many people use gambling as their main source of income, of course that is a wrong mindset if gambling is likened to gain wealth

most addicts seems dont have a lot of ideas about how to make money, dont know where else they get income, so they only know gambling

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Quote from: joebrook on October 17, 2018, 10:17:28 AM

From OP theory, it means you are going to have to train your mind to the extent that it should expect nothing back when you are gambling but that in itself is a very big deal because the mind knows that it should expect a reward when you are gambling not that it's paying to have fun.

Well, that is the point. The mind always will want a win, and that is the generally mentality that comes to play when it comes to gambling. However, what is important now is to fine tune that mind, which in some way it is indirectly called mind control and try as much as possible to stay sane so you do not get to let your mind and the impulses that comes with gambling control you in most cases.

As long as you are actually able to put yourself in that mindset that the OP mentioned, I think we will be able to actually have more of sane and less addicted gamblers generally.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on October 18, 2018, 03:43:45 AM

Quote from: joebrook on October 17, 2018, 10:17:28 AM

From OP theory, it means you are going to have to train your mind to the extent that it should expect nothing back when you are gambling but that in itself is a very big deal because the mind knows that it should expect a reward when you are gambling not that it's paying to have fun.

Expecting nothing back from gambling is not gambling anymore. Its another phrase for donation. People gamble to try their luck at doubling their money and not to expect nothing. They do expect returns but they dont realize that the casino is not a charity for them. They forget the casino's house edge and that their luck is going to run out soon.

Playing for fun is a misconception at the most. Some people say they are playing for fun but they are actually using it to ease their pain of losing money - it can be tough to handle it sometimes if you are addicted.

You have a point, but at the same time, expecting too much from gambling can be jeopardizing. Take a look at it this way! You keep having the mindset that you want to win as that is the basic thing to expect anyway, and without being able to control your zeal to winning, it would really be very hard to curtail that aspect of you that would always want to go overboard.

I understand that unless we want to lie to ourselves, playing for fun could be a misconception as practically everyone who is gambling is expecting a win which is the main reason to be gambling anyway, but even while expecting a win, trying to fix your mind to the idea that it is not always about winning when it comes to gambling and in fact, the chances of losing is pretty huge as well, that would help you to place a limit.

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Quote from: joebrook on October 17, 2018, 10:17:28 AM

From OP theory, it means you are going to have to train your mind to the extent that it should expect nothing back when you are gambling but that in itself is a very big deal because the mind knows that it should expect a reward when you are gambling not that it's paying to have fun.

Expecting nothing back from gambling is not gambling anymore. Its another phrase for donation. People gamble to try their luck at doubling their money and not to expect nothing. They do expect returns but they dont realize that the casino is not a charity for them. They forget the casino's house edge and that their luck is going to run out soon.

Playing for fun is a misconception at the most. Some people say they are playing for fun but they are actually using it to ease their pain of losing money - it can be tough to handle it sometimes if you are addicted.

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Quote from: nl247 on July 10, 2018, 05:14:21 AM

Ok! I was actually trying to get reasons why people get addicted to gambling which we all know is more self inflicted. However, I came up with this theory for someone who may actually want to gamble and then would not want to get addicted based on trying to fix their mentality about it and I would like to seek your opinion on what you think about it, if it can actually end up working for any gambler or not.

The theory is;
If you want to gamble, see it more like you are paying the casino or gambling platform to have some fun (just like you do to go watch some movies in cinema), which if you are paying for anything, you are not meant to expect it back. The good thing however is that, you can actually end up being paid more for having that fun if you get lucky, but the chances of seeing that happen is pretty slim. In that light, if you cannot actually live with doing what I said above, then you should not be gambling at all.

Does this sound like a mentality that can help anyone understand what they are in for if they indeed want to gamble or something even those who are tending towards addiction can set their mind to so as not to get into that deep gambling hole that is hard to come out from?

Actually more people knows that winning from gambling is very slim but still they want an easy way to become rich person.If people don't want to get addicted they need to limit themselves and understand that this is just entertainment,they are spending their money to get fun.But still we can't convince the people they do what they want so better save ourselves from any addiction is the best we can do.

This has become big problem from people. They don’t want to lose this option because they want to earn easy money. But yahoo know the interesting thing that is true in so many cases, people do know that this game is hilarious and detrimental results can be made. They know they wouldn’t be earning any little penny from this game but still I ant sure why this is happening.

When they are ready to lose their money to get more money which is the first mistake of the people because gambling is not like investing or doing business so where we cannot make money from our skills we just need to rely on the luck.Its okay lets decide their fate by themselves.

People become addicted because of greed. When they win money in gambling they want to earn more and more but in vain. When a gambler loses money he tries to get his money back but in vain and due to this regular gambling a person become addicted and then living gambling is difficult and may impossible for them. Fixing a time and money limits may help in this regard.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on October 17, 2018, 09:09:18 AM

Quote from: leowonderful on October 15, 2018, 07:01:30 PM

There are indeed professional gamblers out there, but it takes lots of practice and learning, and it's definitely not something for everyone. You've got to have lots of discipline to make money from gambling, and an ability to adapt to change- this Reddit thread features a person that is supposedly a professional gambler answering questions about his occupation and other things, and I think this is a relatively interesting read, but it's going to take lots of time to gain the skills to make money from gambling; again, people put thousands of hours into this, and it's definitely not for everyone.

Sometimes, when we talk about professional gamblers, I actually have only seen most people who just managed to get lucky at the end of it all, and in that case, when you have to compare that to a lot of people who were never lucky, you will get more of the latter than the former.

People tend to make the mistake of trying to want to win something big from gambling because they have heard some people winning huge amount of money, but one thing I want to clarify is that, when 1 person is winning, 99 others are really losing badly which is why the chances of winning will always be something difficult to come by.

From OP theory, it means you are going to have to train your mind to the extent that it should expect nothing back when you are gambling but that in itself is a very big deal because the mind knows that it should expect a reward when you are gambling not that it's paying to have fun.

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Quote from: leowonderful on October 15, 2018, 07:01:30 PM

There are indeed professional gamblers out there, but it takes lots of practice and learning, and it's definitely not something for everyone. You've got to have lots of discipline to make money from gambling, and an ability to adapt to change- this Reddit thread features a person that is supposedly a professional gambler answering questions about his occupation and other things, and I think this is a relatively interesting read, but it's going to take lots of time to gain the skills to make money from gambling; again, people put thousands of hours into this, and it's definitely not for everyone.

Sometimes, when we talk about professional gamblers, I actually have only seen most people who just managed to get lucky at the end of it all, and in that case, when you have to compare that to a lot of people who were never lucky, you will get more of the latter than the former.

People tend to make the mistake of trying to want to win something big from gambling because they have heard some people winning huge amount of money, but one thing I want to clarify is that, when 1 person is winning, 99 others are really losing badly which is why the chances of winning will always be something difficult to come by.

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Quote from: lienfaye on October 15, 2018, 04:42:06 PM

Well that's how we should set our mind when we gamble but majority of gamblers are thinking they can earn money through it and its not just for entertainment like what you have said.

Nowadays gambling for ordinary people are like a source of income that can double their money in snap and can give them fortune, because of this they tend to became addicted for trying to get back the money they lost.

Using your hard-earned money to gamble is the other reason why its hard to accept gambling is only for fun and you should not expect anything in return.

It is simply because majority of the people on earth are always greedy and looking for shortcuts and quick ways to get rich and they always do imagine that gambling is a space where that can easily come out good for them.

I have seen so many people today who are just so particular about winning to the point that they tend to start chasing recovery of losses and eventually get drenched in their own addiction that coming out of it becomes extremely hard. Gambling is always going to be hard to see as fun as you have said, unless you have to come to terms and reality that you are going to be losing it all anyway and only you know the reason why you still come to gamble anyway.

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Quote from: gabmen on October 15, 2018, 12:46:00 PM

Some people do get consistent profit from gambling though, such as professional gamblers and i wouldn't call them fools.

You are looking at it from the different prespective. If you jump into the lives of the professional gambler then you will notice some darkness in their lves as well due to their habits. Fact is that they can live with that and most of the time they play skill based games like poker which have some PvP winning chance. Then they also get incentives from the casinos to play for them which adds to their income. But the difficult thing is to reach upto that level of influence.

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Gambling works for certain individuals though not for most of us, and it's your responsibility to know your limits if you're not part of that few.

Of course the gambler is responsible for their losses and does not blame the casino for that. Grin

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Quote from: leowonderful on October 15, 2018, 07:01:30 PM

There are indeed professional gamblers out there, but it takes lots of practice and learning, and it's definitely not something for everyone. You've got to have lots of discipline to make money from gambling, and an ability to adapt to change- this Reddit thread features a person that is supposedly a professional gambler answering questions about his occupation and other things, and I think this is a relatively interesting read, but it's going to take lots of time to gain the skills to make money from gambling; again, people put thousands of hours into this, and it's definitely not for everyone.

That Reddit thread is interesting, I didn't know it exists. A lot of interesting topics, I like where William Bott told another user in the thread.

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Number one rule: don't get in over your head. If you can't afford to lose it, you can't afford to bet it.

This should be the one that one rule that everybody should follow. It's just correct, and you don't need to be over the top, you just need to be disciplined, unless you want to YOLO.
Most of my recent bets were like that, and I instantly regretted it when I saw the red font in the "My Results" tab in the gambling site. I agree that it's not for everyone.

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Quote from: nl247 on July 10, 2018, 05:14:21 AM

Ok! I was actually trying to get reasons why people get addicted to gambling which we all know is more self inflicted. However, I came up with this theory for someone who may actually want to gamble and then would not want to get addicted based on trying to fix their mentality about it and I would like to seek your opinion on what you think about it, if it can actually end up working for any gambler or not.

The theory is;
If you want to gamble, see it more like you are paying the casino or gambling platform to have some fun (just like you do to go watch some movies in cinema), which if you are paying for anything, you are not meant to expect it back. The good thing however is that, you can actually end up being paid more for having that fun if you get lucky, but the chances of seeing that happen is pretty slim. In that light, if you cannot actually live with doing what I said above, then you should not be gambling at all.

Does this sound like a mentality that can help anyone understand what they are in for if they indeed want to gamble or something even those who are tending towards addiction can set their mind to so as not to get into that deep gambling hole that is hard to come out from?

Lol as if this is applicable for those who enters gambling.because at first gambling is really funny but getting deep into it,then you will find this profitable since every newbie in gambling comes with luck.but when youre getting further then luck leaves you and losing will manage you gambling habits.thats turns to addicting when you always wanted to regain your losses

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Quote from: St4yInTh3D4rk on October 12, 2018, 03:59:23 PM

When they are ready to lose their money to get more money which is the first mistake of the people because gambling is not like investing or doing business so where we cannot make money from our skills we just need to rely on the luck.Its okay lets decide their fate by themselves.

Right, which is usually the first mistake most of the time for people who tend to gamble a lot; as they look for things they possibly cannot find, like trying to gamble for profit.
For heaven sake, people should realize that gambling is not an investment where you will certainly get some profit from your investment if you do things well, this is a game of luck and really what the OP said is a whole lot realistic and if people can have such a mindset towards gambling, I am sure, we would have less addict in the gambling space.

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