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Quote from: btcdevil on October 29, 2018, 07:20:09 PM

It is very easy to advice to say to do this and that to get rid of gambling addiction by doi g this and that but this advice won't work for even on 10% gamblers.

Gambling addiction starts by first playing for fun but when you lose high you start to this k how you lost and then you do more gambling and then this way you become addicted to gambling in recovering you're loss.

So the theory is that everything is on gamblers will to kill his full investment or forget the loss and leave with what left and live happily

I think some people are just born with a more addictive personality which causes them to get easily hooked on gambling. It isn't exactly the same but alcoholics tend to follow the addiction pattern of their other family members so we shouldn't put too much blame on individuals. Quite frankly, as long as they aren't harming other people I don't see a problem with it.

Well sometimes they can't help themselves. Other people like friends and family members will eventually be dragged especially if the gambler has lost all reasoning that it compromises financial and family affairs.

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Quote from: btcdevil on October 29, 2018, 07:20:09 PM

It is very easy to advice to say to do this and that to get rid of gambling addiction by doi g this and that but this advice won't work for even on 10% gamblers.

Gambling addiction starts by first playing for fun but when you lose high you start to this k how you lost and then you do more gambling and then this way you become addicted to gambling in recovering you're loss.

So the theory is that everything is on gamblers will to kill his full investment or forget the loss and leave with what left and live happily

I think some people are just born with a more addictive personality which causes them to get easily hooked on gambling. It isn't exactly the same but alcoholics tend to follow the addiction pattern of their other family members so we shouldn't put too much blame on individuals. Quite frankly, as long as they aren't harming other people I don't see a problem with it.

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Quote from: pixie85 on October 13, 2018, 09:57:12 AM

Saying that people who aren't having fun gambling should quit it is stupid. Some people like to gamble and aren't addicted but they are drawn to it because it makes them money. They aren't having fun, it's a hard work for them to stay focussed all the time and on top of the game. Should they quit only because there's no fun involved? Think about it OP not every person is the same and you can't fit everyone into your rule.

Well, of course everyone is different in a way, but I absolutely agree with the OP regarding the majority of gamblers. People you are talking about are in the minority, if they exist at all. Yes, surely there are those for whom gambling is a hard work, but I think their vision of the process as of such that "the hard work pays off" is a delusive one. If they win, they win because of luck, not because of their hard work. And if they lose, they lose because of bad luck, not because their strategy doesn't work, because all strategies are pretty much the same regarding the outcome, and they either work or don't work interchangeably.

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Quote from: serjent05 on October 26, 2018, 03:36:13 PM

I dont disagree with you. In fact you have a big point in your theory but the exception to this is not all gambling are enjoyable. Lotto for instance is not fun, not all betting is fun so for someone to be willing to let go of their money they must choose game which would really make them enjoy so whether they win or lose there will be nothing to regret as long as they enjoyed.

I agree, not all gambling is enjoyable, some gambling games are also stressful to us, LOL because sometimes we are thinking how we can win that kind of game because some gamblers really want to get the prize/jackpot.

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I'd say its 50/50 people gamble because of wanting to occupy some time, have some fun and of course maybe get lucky. The tempting part is to rely on the idea of winning which is never sure and is a bad expectation. I think most people start off just interested not expecting too much, the tricky part is even after winning realising you cant rely on it to last or repeat that well every time

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The theory is;
If you want to gamble, see it more like you are paying the casino or gambling platform to have some fun (just like you do to go watch some movies in cinema), which if you are paying for anything, you are not meant to expect it back. The good thing however is that, you can actually end up being paid more for having that fun if you get lucky

Sounds very sensible, the wins are just a bonus but we arent all sensible all the time Cool

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Quote from: maydna on November 07, 2018, 10:40:11 PM

Quote from: TheUltraElite on November 04, 2018, 04:03:06 AM

Accepting the fact that they are addicted is the first step to getting rid of the addiction. Its tough but if they are able to do it and their family is supportive then there is a ray of hope in them.

Yes, and not all gambler can do this as it will be difficult to tell our family that we are addicted to gambling. But if they have a strong mind to quit gambling forever, they must do this, and I think their family will understand the situations and their family will help him to stop and leave gambling. And with support from his family, I am sure that soon he can quit gambling and he can get the productive time with his family.

Most gamblers who are already addicts even find it hard to tell themselves the truth when it comes to the fact that they are addicted. When you tell them, the response always is, I know what I am doing and I am not addicted. Only those around them will always see it. I have lived with one before back then in school and it was always a thug of war for him.

It is a lot realistic when you already know gambling will ruin you if you do not manage to control yourself and the best way to do that, is to at least fashion your mindset in such a way that you do not lose that control just in a way the OP mentioned.

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I appreciate your theory and your ideas on how to stop ADDICTED people from gambling, change their ways and their mindset, however, I don't think that it is enough though, people will still gamble just to get their joy out of that certain thing, but I think that your idea is pretty good and I think it can ease gamblers from risking too much, I like the theory and the idea, hope it can help out atleast some of the people.

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Quote from: rodskee on November 06, 2018, 05:26:28 PM

People start playing gambling for fun and enjoying theirself for the relaxation

No. They start playing with the objective of making money. Face it, people do gamble for money and not fun. Fun is just another excuse to hide their true intentions and make them look gullible. Its not bad for them or that they will be judged, but lets be practical here.

Quote from: maydna on November 07, 2018, 10:40:11 PM

Yes, and not all gambler can do this as it will be difficult to tell our family that we are addicted to gambling. But if they have a strong mind to quit gambling forever, they must do this, and I think their family will understand the situations and their family will help him to stop and leave gambling. And with support from his family, I am sure that soon he can quit gambling and he can get the productive time with his family.

Actually the person who is addicted might also not have a supportive family. Its becomes more difficult for them then. Moreover it has been seen that such social evils are more in broken families and problem families.

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Gambling does not depend only on luck but as a mathematician would say depends also on the house edge and the programming of slot machines and online games like roulette and dice.

Even in sports betting nothing goes as we try to predict even when we place a bet on a team with 1.15 odd that is playing at home. This because we don't take into counter the referee of the game, in soccer games I think the impact of the referee is at least 30-35% and that is a big factor now. Nothing is as it look on gambling for me.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on November 04, 2018, 04:03:06 AM

Quote from: maydna on November 04, 2018, 12:52:39 AM

Yes, and I think some of them doesn't have a brave to tell the members of the family that they are playing gambling or even they are addicted person in gambling. And this makes them keep secret their addicting to other people, so they don't have a way to solve their problem.

Accepting the fact that they are addicted is the first step to getting rid of the addiction. Its tough but if they are able to do it and their family is supportive then there is a ray of hope in them.

Yes, and not all gambler can do this as it will be difficult to tell our family that we are addicted to gambling. But if they have a strong mind to quit gambling forever, they must do this, and I think their family will understand the situations and their family will help him to stop and leave gambling. And with support from his family, I am sure that soon he can quit gambling and he can get the productive time with his family.

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People start playing gambling for fun and enjoying theirself for the relaxation
But in the end need to accept gambling isn't for fun it is a game of fear to assume to got lucky win playing gamble

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Quote from: Getcoinsite on November 04, 2018, 08:55:17 AM

Well about the theory i guess thats the best way to consider the gambling habits

Movies and gambling are a pretty pair to compare my friend. We dont go to movies just to have fun, we do learn a lot from them and appreciate the work of art. Gambling compared to it is a place to try your luck. Yeah both need money to get access to but both are not things that you can compare. You will definitely not go to watch a movie everyday because you are addicted to it - because not everyday a good movie that gives you that taste is made. But gambling is the same everyday.

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This is my mindset whenever i want to play,and luckily because of this attitude i never become addicted and just enjoying the very moment I played

Good, keep it that way and make sure to take breaks. Wink

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Quote from: Getcoinsite on November 04, 2018, 08:55:17 AM

Well about the theory i guess thats the best way to consider the gambling habits

As I believe that playing gamble must be for fun only and enjoyment,and not for profiteering we have to be thankful that we have fun while we are playing,and if we won then thats just a bonus

This is my mindset whenever i want to play,and luckily because of this attitude i never become addicted and just enjoying the very moment I played

If only you could make people think like that, but you can't. When people think about playing in a casino it makes them think of the money. The thought of winning money without having to work or put an effort is too tempting. There's a reason why most profitable casino games are the ones that don't require any knowledge or skill like slots. They lure people in and make them lose small money which they don't even notice but if a casino has 100 machines and 1000 people play there every day it's a large profit.

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Quote from: nl247 on July 10, 2018, 05:14:21 AM

Ok! I was actually trying to get reasons why people get addicted to gambling which we all know is more self inflicted. However, I came up with this theory for someone who may actually want to gamble and then would not want to get addicted based on trying to fix their mentality about it and I would like to seek your opinion on what you think about it, if it can actually end up working for any gambler or not.

The theory is;
If you want to gamble, see it more like you are paying the casino or gambling platform to have some fun (just like you do to go watch some movies in cinema), which if you are paying for anything, you are not meant to expect it back. The good thing however is that, you can actually end up being paid more for having that fun if you get lucky, but the chances of seeing that happen is pretty slim. In that light, if you cannot actually live with doing what I said above, then you should not be gambling at all.

Does this sound like a mentality that can help anyone understand what they are in for if they indeed want to gamble or something even those who are tending towards addiction can set their mind to so as not to get into that deep gambling hole that is hard to come out from?

Well about the theory i guess thats the best way to consider the gambling habits

As I believe that playing gamble must be for fun only and enjoyment,and not for profiteering we have to be thankful that we have fun while we are playing,and if we won then thats just a bonus

This is my mindset whenever i want to play,and luckily because of this attitude i never become addicted and just enjoying the very moment I played

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Quote from: BartS on November 03, 2018, 04:21:46 PM

This happens with all the addictions as well, how many people enjoy doing recreational drugs and they say to themselves that they are doing it only for the fun and then months later you find out that they are completely addicted, so for those that cannot control their gambling it is better they do not gamble at all or they could risk deceiving themselves and realizing too late that what they thought was a way to get some fun has become their whole lives.

The addiction with drugs is much more violent specially if its habit forming and has physiological dependence. Even trying to tell them that its bad will make them rage and they will go into aggressive mode. These people are so fond of their poison that they would never realize the truth that its killing them and it certainly hurts their near and dear ones.

Quote from: maydna on November 04, 2018, 12:52:39 AM

Yes, and I think some of them doesn't have a brave to tell the members of the family that they are playing gambling or even they are addicted person in gambling. And this makes them keep secret their addicting to other people, so they don't have a way to solve their problem.

Accepting the fact that they are addicted is the first step to getting rid of the addiction. Its tough but if they are able to do it and their family is supportive then there is a ray of hope in them.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on November 02, 2018, 04:23:13 AM

Quote from: maydna on October 29, 2018, 10:55:39 PM

All we can do is only advising other people, and it depends on that person how he can accept the suggestion. And if he can think that the suggestion can help him to solve the problem, then he should try the suggestion so at least, he can solve his problem.

The only person who can solve the problem is the person themselves. If they are not determined to stop gambling then nobody can stop them. Being determined also needs constant support from the members of the family and friend circle. If the problem is in the peer group of gamblers then they should leave that group for the time being.

Yes, and I think some of them doesn't have a brave to tell the members of the family that they are playing gambling or even they are addicted person in gambling. And this makes them keep secret their addicting to other people, so they don't have a way to solve their problem.

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But maybe he cannot listen to the suggestion and continue and makes another mistake.

That is why we cannot do anything other than motivate others not to get addicted. It should be kept under control and scrutiny. Then again its not possible to keep watch on such a person unless they are in a rehab home.

We can always remind them to stay away from gambling, and if necessary, we must be on their side every day so we can watch and know what his activity and he know that we are in his side to help him to solve the addicting in gambling problem.

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Quote from: eternalgloom on July 10, 2018, 05:54:31 AM

This sounds good in theory, but I think it would be very hard for -some- people to disconnect from the notion that they gamble to win money.
The thing with addiction is that it kind of creeps up on you, without you noticing it at first.

So, you could very well be lying to yourself about 'only doing it for fun', while you're still getting addicted slowly.

A better tactic might be to severely limit the amount of time you spend on gambling, by sheer willpower alone.
When you see that you cannot do that, you can be pretty sure that you would be prone to becoming addicted in the future.

This happens with all the addictions as well, how many people enjoy doing recreational drugs and they say to themselves that they are doing it only for the fun and then months later you find out that they are completely addicted, so for those that cannot control their gambling it is better they do not gamble at all or they could risk deceiving themselves and realizing too late that what they thought was a way to get some fun has become their whole lives.

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Quote from: maydna on October 29, 2018, 10:55:39 PM

All we can do is only advising other people, and it depends on that person how he can accept the suggestion. And if he can think that the suggestion can help him to solve the problem, then he should try the suggestion so at least, he can solve his problem.

The only person who can solve the problem is the person themselves. If they are not determined to stop gambling then nobody can stop them. Being determined also needs constant support from the members of the family and friend circle. If the problem is in the peer group of gamblers then they should leave that group for the time being.

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But maybe he cannot listen to the suggestion and continue and makes another mistake.

That is why we cannot do anything other than motivate others not to get addicted. It should be kept under control and scrutiny. Then again its not possible to keep watch on such a person unless they are in a rehab home.

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Quote from: gowobonyok on October 28, 2018, 10:13:03 PM

I agree with you that indeed we have to come to the casino like when we will come to the cinema, which is to enjoy the game and leave. therefore bringing capital right with self control is very important.

Since I have been gambling, although it is not something that happens every time, but generally, I have always seen things this way with gambling. One thing is that whether you like it or not, loss is something you can definitely not do without and you just have to find a way to accept that beforehand, which if you do not, you will be so surprised at the way you will get to find yourself in the wrong side of things most of the time. It sounds a lot realistic as long as you want to be able to at least, have some mindset that you should not take gambling more than fun.

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Quote from: btcdevil on October 29, 2018, 07:20:09 PM

It is very easy to advice to say to do this and that to get rid of gambling addiction by doi g this and that but this advice won't work for even on 10% gamblers.

Gambling addiction starts by first playing for fun but when you lose high you start to this k how you lost and then you do more gambling and then this way you become addicted to gambling in recovering you're loss.

So the theory is that everything is on gamblers will to kill his full investment or forget the loss and leave with what left and live happily

All we can do is only advising other people, and it depends on that person how he can accept the suggestion. And if he can think that the suggestion can help him to solve the problem, then he should try the suggestion so at least, he can solve his problem. But maybe he cannot listen to the suggestion and continue and makes another mistake. Gambling addiction is complicated to solve unless that person wants to quit from gambling forever so he can save his money for another thing.

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