Does this sound realistic? - page 7.

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Quote from: maydna on October 29, 2018, 03:42:42 AM

Controlling the mind is difficult in every aspect, even in the gambling game. But once we can control our mind, then it will become easy to prevent something wrong that might happen to us. It will needs practice every day, and it's not just in gambling games but in our life too.

With controlling the mind, we can think about something wrong and something good, so if somehow we are in a bad situation or conditions, we can get a way to solve the problem. And related to the gambling game, if you can control your mind, you will not become addicted to gambling, and you will know how much money you use to gamble.

But at the same time, even though it is difficult, when you know what is at stake and the effect it could have on your being, one way or the other, you will just have to want to make it work.

Mind game is one thing you have to be able to sort out first, which is always the center of attack most time when it comes to gambling impulses, but as long as you have been able to settle your mind with the idea that this is just a fun thing you are paying for and you even have the chance to decide how much you want to pay for it, and it sometimes even comes with incentives if you are lucky, you will not end up putting so much attention on things you should not.

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It is very easy to advice to say to do this and that to get rid of gambling addiction by doi g this and that but this advice won't work for even on 10% gamblers.

Gambling addiction starts by first playing for fun but when you lose high you start to this k how you lost and then you do more gambling and then this way you become addicted to gambling in recovering you're loss.

So the theory is that everything is on gamblers will to kill his full investment or forget the loss and leave with what left and live happily

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Quote from: gowobonyok on October 28, 2018, 11:13:03 PM

I agree with you that indeed we have to come to the casino like when we will come to the cinema, which is to enjoy the game and leave. therefore bringing capital right with self control is very important.

Ofcourse, you going to the casino should bring with you your capital or else you will be useless in a sense that money should be brought in that place. But unlike cinema, you can expect some gains in casino if you got lucky.

This is a good idea but i think it would be hard for gamblers to follow it since most of the gamblers are expecting good profits or returns when they come out from casinos.Many have been addicted to gambling because of this belief.But if we will only gamble for an entertainment,then gambling addiction and big losses will not really happen.

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Quote from: gowobonyok on October 28, 2018, 11:13:03 PM

I agree with you that indeed we have to come to the casino like when we will come to the cinema, which is to enjoy the game and leave. therefore bringing capital right with self control is very important.

Ofcourse, you going to the casino should bring with you your capital or else you will be useless in a sense that money should be brought in that place. But unlike cinema, you can expect some gains in casino if you got lucky.

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Quote from: hahay on October 28, 2018, 06:38:44 AM

I disagree with the theory, watching movies and playing gambling are different things. watching the movies is of course to get fun and that is for sure, even though both of them watch movies and gamble are both spending money to start enjoying it too. But in gambling we cannot be purely just to get pleasure, because gambling is basically to make a profit.

If you think gambling is to make profit than I have some bad news for you. In reality the gambling you do is not to make profit, it is to keep you entertained however because of the house edge in all games there is no possible way for you to win in gambling, not in the long run. You can of course bet once and make a lot of money and get out however if you keep playing long enough time than house edge gets corrected and you lose it all including your initial capital.

Hence, do not gamble to win money, never do that, you will lose. Gambling is EXACTLY like going to movies, you go to a casino (or open an online casino) and spend money to have fun there, just as you would pay for a ticket to go to a cinema and watch a movie. The only difference in gambling you may get out whenever you want but in a movie you usually wait until the end.

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Quote from: gowobonyok on October 28, 2018, 11:13:03 PM

I agree with you that indeed we have to come to the casino like when we will come to the cinema, which is to enjoy the game and leave. therefore bringing capital right with self control is very important.

But the fact is there is very little capital involved in profit. The major loss is on the side of the player and not the casino. So thinking of any profit at all is a fools dream. While in case of movies and all, its another form of entertainment and a separate thing altogether. You can pay for your movie time but again most people today are just pirating it, so comparing gambling as a mode of entertainment to movies is a bad comparison.

Now one can get addicted to watching movies, but that short lived. Movies dont give you the drive that gambling does and thus people move away from it easily.

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Controlling the mind is difficult in every aspect, even in the gambling game. But once we can control our mind, then it will become easy to prevent something wrong that might happen to us. It will needs practice every day, and it's not just in gambling games but in our life too.

With controlling the mind, we can think about something wrong and something good, so if somehow we are in a bad situation or conditions, we can get a way to solve the problem. And related to the gambling game, if you can control your mind, you will not become addicted to gambling, and you will know how much money you use to gamble.

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I agree with you that indeed we have to come to the casino like when we will come to the cinema, which is to enjoy the game and leave. therefore bringing capital right with self control is very important.

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I disagree with the theory, watching movies and playing gambling are different things. watching the movies is of course to get fun and that is for sure, even though both of them watch movies and gamble are both spending money to start enjoying it too. But in gambling we cannot be purely just to get pleasure, because gambling is basically to make a profit.

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Quote from: serjent05 on October 26, 2018, 04:36:13 PM

I dont disagree with you. In fact you have a big point in your theory but the exception to this is not all gambling are enjoyable. Lotto for instance is not fun, not all betting is fun so for someone to be willing to let go of their money they must choose game which would really make them enjoy so whether they win or lose there will be nothing to regret as long as they enjoyed.

Lotto is one of the gambling games that I will never try. Due to the fact that the possibility of me winning is so small that I'd rather be hit by a lightning than hitting the jackpot, this can also be proven using a mathematical solution of probability. Also, I agree that it is not really fun, I mean you are just putting a number, hope you win and if not you go again the other day unlike games on casino where in you are being surrounded by people having fun and being excited to lose their money, well, I am being realistic.

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Quote from: crwth on October 24, 2018, 11:27:19 PM

I think people who sulk in losing in gambling chats want some attention and let have people pity him or her. It's not always like that for everyone but I have seen people doing that every time hoping that people would tip him to have money. It's like a crying faucet. lol.

Truly speaking those people actually passive begging being a crybaby who seems like they lose all their money. Heck its a casino and if you cant handle your money you should not be there at all. Liberalists are like that and they wont show any care for chatroom rules about passive begging and when questioned by mods, they will become defensive saying that they were never begging at all. Quite the jokers. Roll Eyes

Quote from: coinplus on October 26, 2018, 07:57:24 AM

I really do wonder and I wonder why the guy will even be considering profit from trading as dead money.

Maybe because they are desperate or they dont care about the money.

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This is a money you took your time to get based on your knowledge and experience, and blowing it all away into gambling, while considering it as dead money sound absurd to me.

Cant reason with brain dead weedwhores who after making some money from trading enter the casino smoking a joint (and their brain) and posting bullshit.

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I dont disagree with you. In fact you have a big point in your theory but the exception to this is not all gambling are enjoyable. Lotto for instance is not fun, not all betting is fun so for someone to be willing to let go of their money they must choose game which would really make them enjoy so whether they win or lose there will be nothing to regret as long as they enjoyed.

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Quote from: coinplus on October 26, 2018, 07:57:24 AM

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Quote from: ocid on October 19, 2018, 06:17:18 PM

besides, use dead money to do gambling for example money from trade or other benefits, do not spend capital to gamble from the private pocket that we have so that when we experience a loss do not feel too lost because the money we play to gamble is money from profits we get from other results and aim to be developed from the results of these benefits.

Why would you even want to waste money that you made from trading into gambling? If you are someone who is diligent about taking care of their own asset this would not be the option you would think of. The phrase "spare money" is an oxymoron. There are people in this world who beg for a piece of bread to feed themselves while there are people who are so rich they waste their food. Use that spare money you get to something more fruitful than gambling it away.

We see a lot of people sulking in casino chatrooms about making money from trading then wasting it away - dont be one of those. Be decisive and take your money into your hands.

I really do wonder and I wonder why the guy will even be considering profit from trading as dead money.
This is a money you took your time to get based on your knowledge and experience, and blowing it all away into gambling, while considering it as dead money sound absurd to me.

In this case, trading should even be seen as a job and a profession and people who really do not take it for granted, will not in any way see it as money they could just blow away. Like you said, and adding to it, in life it is all about being smart and anyone who ends up having mentality like ocid, it usually does not end well most of the time for people in those category.

Mind set every one will not be same some may think trading is the best option for them and some may consider gambling is their choice but it is completely belongs to investor who is preferring gambling or trading.
If you ask me which one is the best for you. I don't hesitate and directly goes to gambling only since I love to do betting with bitcoin and even with fiats.
If you are good in analysis you will be able to rock in gambling.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on October 22, 2018, 02:44:57 AM

Quote from: ocid on October 19, 2018, 06:17:18 PM

besides, use dead money to do gambling for example money from trade or other benefits, do not spend capital to gamble from the private pocket that we have so that when we experience a loss do not feel too lost because the money we play to gamble is money from profits we get from other results and aim to be developed from the results of these benefits.

Why would you even want to waste money that you made from trading into gambling? If you are someone who is diligent about taking care of their own asset this would not be the option you would think of. The phrase "spare money" is an oxymoron. There are people in this world who beg for a piece of bread to feed themselves while there are people who are so rich they waste their food. Use that spare money you get to something more fruitful than gambling it away.

We see a lot of people sulking in casino chatrooms about making money from trading then wasting it away - dont be one of those. Be decisive and take your money into your hands.

I really do wonder and I wonder why the guy will even be considering profit from trading as dead money.
This is a money you took your time to get based on your knowledge and experience, and blowing it all away into gambling, while considering it as dead money sound absurd to me.

In this case, trading should even be seen as a job and a profession and people who really do not take it for granted, will not in any way see it as money they could just blow away. Like you said, and adding to it, in life it is all about being smart and anyone who ends up having mentality like ocid, it usually does not end well most of the time for people in those category.

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Quote from: Grimjule on October 22, 2018, 06:44:41 AM

I don’t believe that only luck will favor you all the time. if so then I should say that luckiest people should also be the wealthiest people in the world, but nothing is like that. It means that gambling doesn’t depend only on luck and some other factors also necessary in gambling, like gambling skills, tactics, bluffing, tricks etc. having these qualities you will be a successful gambler.

Stop playing hide and seek with reality bro, there is no form of skills tactics or tricks that will make you successful in gambling. It is all about the luck and that is all. Even if you want to apply some skills, with most part of it you are still making blind decisions with an expectation for the best, but if you get yourself so much in that mindset and anticipation for the winnings when it comes to gambling, you will get screwed pretty fast that you will eventually hate yourself for it.

What the OP said sounds realistic, and it is always better for anyone to at least, try as much as possible to have the mindset that would help them control their impulses when it comes to gambling.

I agree that gambling is base on luck most of the time. There are some gambling games that need to have strategies but sometimes we need them both at the same time. Luck is the main key for us to win in gambling because gambling always depends on our luckiness in life. No one can control the result of our gambling games.

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Quote from: Grimjule on October 22, 2018, 06:44:41 AM

I don’t believe that only luck will favor you all the time. if so then I should say that luckiest people should also be the wealthiest people in the world, but nothing is like that. It means that gambling doesn’t depend only on luck and some other factors also necessary in gambling, like gambling skills, tactics, bluffing, tricks etc. having these qualities you will be a successful gambler.

It is also important for gamblers to have a strategy, a tactics, a skills, that is obvious they can do tricks and bluffs that is usual for gamblers since it is a great and oldest trick in the book especially poker which is quite popular.

Even so, even with skills, experience and strategies that you've done, if you are not that lucky, you might not be that successful there. Luck is a huge factor on gambling and let's be honest, that is the reason why there is such things as a beginner's luck. Even without any gambling experience, skill and strategies, with beginner's luck, you can win against great gamblers.

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Quote from: Grimjule on October 22, 2018, 06:44:41 AM

I don’t believe that only luck will favor you all the time. if so then I should say that luckiest people should also be the wealthiest people in the world, but nothing is like that. It means that gambling doesn’t depend only on luck and some other factors also necessary in gambling, like gambling skills, tactics, bluffing, tricks etc. having these qualities you will be a successful gambler.

Stop playing hide and seek with reality bro, there is no form of skills tactics or tricks that will make you successful in gambling. It is all about the luck and that is all. Even if you want to apply some skills, with most part of it you are still making blind decisions with an expectation for the best, but if you get yourself so much in that mindset and anticipation for the winnings when it comes to gambling, you will get screwed pretty fast that you will eventually hate yourself for it.

What the OP said sounds realistic, and it is always better for anyone to at least, try as much as possible to have the mindset that would help them control their impulses when it comes to gambling.

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Quote from: crwth on October 24, 2018, 11:27:19 PM

Quote from: TheUltraElite on October 22, 2018, 02:44:57 AM

Quote from: ocid on October 19, 2018, 06:17:18 PM

besides, use dead money to do gambling for example money from trade or other benefits, do not spend capital to gamble from the private pocket that we have so that when we experience a loss do not feel too lost because the money we play to gamble is money from profits we get from other results and aim to be developed from the results of these benefits.

Why would you even want to waste money that you made from trading into gambling? If you are someone who is diligent about taking care of their own asset this would not be the option you would think of. The phrase "spare money" is an oxymoron. There are people in this world who beg for a piece of bread to feed themselves while there are people who are so rich they waste their food. Use that spare money you get to something more fruitful than gambling it away.

We see a lot of people sulking in casino chatrooms about making money from trading then wasting it away - dont be one of those. Be decisive and take your money into your hands.

Why do that in the first place? I think there are a lot of things that you could use it for or in fact, it's better to invest in more in what you have currently experienced in growing the portfolio. I don't think that it's a waste of money to use profit from another asset to try to earn more. It's a risk and I think it's the user's discretion to do so, whether or no they have assurance or not.

I think people who sulk in losing in gambling chats want some attention and let have people pity him or her. It's not always like that for everyone but I have seen people doing that every time hoping that people would tip him to have money. It's like a crying faucet. lol.

Another type of strategy where gaining attentions just to got some free tips to gamble back, if you already gaining money from your investment it's far more better to reinvest it to other form of such kinds of passive income, gambling is not one of them and if you are aiming to have some entertainment then spare your extra money that you really afford to lose, have a good control with your budget not to spare too much while enjoying your stay.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on October 22, 2018, 02:44:57 AM

Quote from: ocid on October 19, 2018, 06:17:18 PM

besides, use dead money to do gambling for example money from trade or other benefits, do not spend capital to gamble from the private pocket that we have so that when we experience a loss do not feel too lost because the money we play to gamble is money from profits we get from other results and aim to be developed from the results of these benefits.

Why would you even want to waste money that you made from trading into gambling? If you are someone who is diligent about taking care of their own asset this would not be the option you would think of. The phrase "spare money" is an oxymoron. There are people in this world who beg for a piece of bread to feed themselves while there are people who are so rich they waste their food. Use that spare money you get to something more fruitful than gambling it away.

We see a lot of people sulking in casino chatrooms about making money from trading then wasting it away - dont be one of those. Be decisive and take your money into your hands.

Why do that in the first place? I think there are a lot of things that you could use it for or in fact, it's better to invest in more in what you have currently experienced in growing the portfolio. I don't think that it's a waste of money to use profit from another asset to try to earn more. It's a risk and I think it's the user's discretion to do so, whether or no they have assurance or not.

I think people who sulk in losing in gambling chats want some attention and let have people pity him or her. It's not always like that for everyone but I have seen people doing that every time hoping that people would tip him to have money. It's like a crying faucet. lol.

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Quote from: joebrook on October 17, 2018, 11:17:28 AM

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Quote from: leowonderful on October 15, 2018, 08:01:30 PM

There are indeed professional gamblers out there, but it takes lots of practice and learning, and it's definitely not something for everyone. You've got to have lots of discipline to make money from gambling, and an ability to adapt to change- this Reddit thread features a person that is supposedly a professional gambler answering questions about his occupation and other things, and I think this is a relatively interesting read, but it's going to take lots of time to gain the skills to make money from gambling; again, people put thousands of hours into this, and it's definitely not for everyone.

Sometimes, when we talk about professional gamblers, I actually have only seen most people who just managed to get lucky at the end of it all, and in that case, when you have to compare that to a lot of people who were never lucky, you will get more of the latter than the former.

People tend to make the mistake of trying to want to win something big from gambling because they have heard some people winning huge amount of money, but one thing I want to clarify is that, when 1 person is winning, 99 others are really losing badly which is why the chances of winning will always be something difficult to come by.

From OP theory, it means you are going to have to train your mind to the extent that it should expect nothing back when you are gambling but that in itself is a very big deal because the mind knows that it should expect a reward when you are gambling not that it's paying to have fun.

I don’t believe that only luck will favor you all the time. if so then I should say that luckiest people should also be the wealthiest people in the world, but nothing is like that. It means that gambling doesn’t depend only on luck and some other factors also necessary in gambling, like gambling skills, tactics, bluffing, tricks etc. having these qualities you will be a successful gambler.

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