Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 11. (Read 734910 times)

Soviet leadership made a mistake of creating Ukraine after 1917 and performing forced "Ukranisation" of the Russian population on those lands...

PS: Ah, I see Balthazar addressed this already:

Some old news:

https://en.eadaily.com/news/2015/09/03/ruble-becomes-single-currency-in-donetsk-peoples-republic

Ruble becomes single currency in Donetsk People’s Republic

Russian ruble has been approved as the single currency in territory of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR). The announcement on it was published on the website of the Finance Ministry on September 3.

“Ruble is the only compulsory currency and the prices, tariffs and the budgetary payments have been re-calculated on the basis of the single currency,” DPR Finance Minister Yekaterina Matyushchenko said. At present, she said, ruble accounts for 92% of the DPR budget, while hryvnia accounts for only 8%.

EADaily reported earlier that DPR shifted to a floating rate of the Russian ruble (RUR) on September 3. For the time being, the exchange rate is as follows: 1UAH/3RUR. Earlier, a hryvnia cost 2 rubles. The multi-currency zone in the territory of the DPR was introduced to counteract the blockade announced by Kiev and to stabilize the economic situation. DPR Head Alexander Zakharchenko said the ruble rate was a “cohesive measure necessary to fill the financial market amid transition to the multi-currency system.”


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-09-15/the-central-bank-with-no-currency-no-interest-rates-but-atms

The Central Bank With No Currency, No Interest Rates, But ATMs

The Republican Central Bank has a governor, a couple of thousand employees and a glass-and-steel headquarters. It also has a bunker in its basement.

Here’s what the nascent, self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic in eastern Ukraine is missing: a financial system. Absent from the central bankers’ toolkit are a currency and interest rates.

Set up 11 months ago, the fledgling institution is the first building block by pro-Russian rebels to manage the economy in the vacuum created by the war to break away from Ukraine. Dependent on almost $40 million a month from their patrons in Moscow just to pay pensions and on a circuitous transfer system via another Russian construct in northern Georgia, the Donetsk officials say they’re making progress.

“We are proud that our bank is working, that we made a processing center,” chairwoman Irina Nikitina, 47, a former chief executive officer at a local bank. She spoke in her office at a building the rebels took over from Ukraine’s Eximbank. “We built the system, we want to improve it.”

Back at the offices of the Republican Central Bank, Nikitina oversees about 2,000 employees, roughly equal to about three-quarters of the European Central Bank’s work force in Frankfurt.

The Donetsk entity acts more like a monopoly commercial bank as the aspiring policy makers learn the ropes. Her deputy, Yury Dmitrenko, said they mostly surf the Internet to learn about central banking mechanisms, using Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian and European examples.

af_newbie
I'm sorry, but where did you find this nonsense?  

There was no russification, but there is a policy of forced ukrainization of russians, tatars, armenians, hungarians, romanians and even greeks by the soviet and ukrainian governments, which was ongoing since 1918.

These regions were parts of Russian SFSR, which were ceded to newly formed Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic in 1918. People didn't come from Mars, they were living there for centuries.

So you are talking about ethnocide and ethnic cleansing, right? Should we also expel french speaking people from Quebec as well? This is exactly what is being made by orders of the current ukrainian "government".

Believe me, Estonia and Latvia both will eventually respond for their crimes against humanity.

Ukraine made a mistake by allowing ethnic Russians to stay in Ukraine after 1991.   They should have done what Estonia and other Baltic countries did,
force Russians to speak the new official language, force their kids to learn the official language or have a choice to leave the country.  Instead they allowed
to 'carry on business' as 'smaller Russia'.  Most presidents of Ukraine spoke better Russian than Ukrainian.  They were native Russians.

Now, they will have to give large portions of their country back to Russia.

Tragedy is that many Russians and Ukrainians would have to be re-settled.  Not to mention destroyed infrastructure and lost lives on both sides.

Russification done by Soviets was well done.  I think it will be better for the Eastern provinces to join Russia and stop this war.  In the end, what difference does it make what passport you hold?  You'll still be speaking Russian and live where you were born.

Ukrainian military started tonight after 21:00 a massive artillery bombardment of Donetsk suburbs, including Petrovskij residential quarters:

http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201602120053-gief.htm

Where I am most people don´t suddenly turn into enemies of Iraq or Russia or Lybia or Syria or whatever just because the government is in league with some foreign crazies. It is some kind of a mafia organization, you´re a member and you follow, no matter what. Or else I guess. If you´re not with us you´re with the enemy, you remember that line.

Simplest examples are И, Ѥ, Ѩ and TЪ/TO/TA articles from the ancient slavic language.

Some of these are still exist in modern russian language, but only in a "glued" form.

Ancient slavic / modern russian


Others are frequently used in a colloquial speech.


Both questions are usually translated as "Are you going to the cinema?", but there is a little difference. The second question assumes that conversation is about particular movie theater, which was discussed earlier.

Anyway, if people think I´m Russian that okay with me, think I´m American no problem. I´ve never pretended to be either. 

Maybe some people don´t use them very much. I don´t know, I´m not a linguist, it´s just something I spot.    Not that it´s something I specifically look for, I don´t care per se where people are from.

This is not quite right, since definite/indefinite articles do exist in russian language. It's quite interesting to know that, though they're not aware about the existence of either definite or indefinite article, a vast majority of native speakers uses them constantly.

Well, I usually spot the Russians pretty quickly. Their language is distinctive in that it lacks definite and indefinite articles and this tends to reflect in their English.

Lesson no.1: Not everyone having a dislike for the NATO and Obama is from Russia. Despite what your mainstream media claims, ordinary people in countries such as China and India hate the NATO more than anything else.

If I am not wrong, galdur is from Iceland. Nemo1024 is probably from Norway, and Balthazar is from Germany. I am from Singapore (part-Indian, part-Chinese, part-Scottish). I don't think there are any posters from Russian Federation active here. Most of them post only in the Russian language subsection within this forum.

Where do you live? I always thought you were Russian 

This is bad!

MYSTERIOUS VIRUS KILLS 20 UKRAINIAN SOLDIERS, SEPARATISTS BLAME U.S. LAB
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/mysterious-virus-kills-20-ukrainian-soldiers-separatists-blame-u-s-lab_012016

20 Dead, 200 Hospitalized After Reports US Lab "Leaks" Deadly Virus In Ukraine
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-25/20-dead-200-hospitalized-after-reports-us-lab-leaks-deadly-virus-ukraine


And the day before yesterday, a village West for Donetsk was shelled by Ukros.

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A find from the zerohedge thread:

JAN 27, 2016 @ 02:58 PM 682 VIEWS

Russia Sanction Relief 'Will Be Massive'

European investors are waiting for the day, hopefully sometime in July, when Brussels axes sanctions on Russia.

“I don’t think lifting sanctions changes things in the short term for the Russian economy, but for investor sentiment it will be absolutely massive,” says Martin Charmoy, managing director of Prosperity Capital Management, a $2 billion investment company whose entire fortune hangs in Russia. “I know that there are funds that will not invest there so long as there are sanctions in place. They don’t want to be sanctioned for investing in a country that faces sanctions. When that risk no longer exists, Russia investors will be rewarded.”

BNP Paribas was sentenced to five years probation by a U.S. judge in April in connection with a $8.9 billion settlement resolving claims that it violated sanctions against Sudan, Cuba and Iran. A U.S. court in Manhattan ordered the French bank to forfeit $8.83 billion and pay a $140 million in fines for violating sanctions.

No one wants to be BNP. When the iron curtain of Western sanctions lift, investment firms will tip toe back in steadily.

Global investors, especially those in Europe that have close business ties to Moscow and St. Petersburg, have watched Russian stock prices remain cheap. The Market Vectors Russia (RSX) exchange traded fund trades at seven times earnings, the cheapest of the big four emerging economies.

On Monday, Bloomberg reported that Secretary of State John Kerry was leaning a tad more towards Moscow than Kyiv. And in Germany, Chancellor Angela Merkel has a lot on her plate. Mediating the bitter divorce between Ukraine and Russia and who gets to keep what piece of real estate (as in Crimea and the Donbass) are being trumped by the migrant crisis. Merkel is looking for a solution in Ukraine and her counterpart, Petro Poroshenko, is struggling to convince his parliament that Donbass should be allowed to vote. For Kyiv, giving Donbass autonomy is one step closer to watching it go the way of Crimea, which seceded from Ukraine in March 2014. The U.S. and European Union say Russia annexed Crimea by force.

“There have been clear signs of a ‘pacification’ process recently,” Simon Quijano-Evans, chief emerging markets strategist at Commerzbank told Bloomberg this week. “It does look as though all sides are starting to push more markedly for resolutions to the current geopolitical mess.”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2016/01/27/russia-sanction-relief-will-be-massive/#b3f799f38e7b

Anyway; the refugee business has been only partly exploited so far. As crude oil stays low huge opportunities are created in Nigeria, Lybia, Algeria and other African places. A million Nigerians arriving in Europe this year? What a beautiful picture. A third of young Algerians want to go to Europe. ISIS will drive Libyans over the Mediterranean. Seems very promising.

Those nutballs in Kiev are no threat to Russia. Nobody takes them seriously, apart from other nutballs/idiots in charge here and there. In fact I always thought that Russia´s agents in Ukraine (certainly no shortage of them back then in 2013/14) lent a helping hand if anything in that coup. At least it gave Russia the perfect opportunity to recover their beloved Crimea. And in due course a good chunk of their former district called Ukraine will probably fall in their lap.

I think they´re sitting pretty. There´s no need for any haste in Syria. Best to just hold the water. The more refugees that stream into Europe the better, you don´t want to interfere with that too much. Also; increasing ache in Turkey, Europe´s soft underbelly, would be welcome. Time can be a very good ally. Then there´s Afghanistan, another excellent headache for NATO. Got to love their supply lines through Pakistan. Caught in their own trap.

I live in Iceland. Well, I guess those idiots didn´t reckon that the Russians would have have a counter-gambit. And they probably thought that the sanctions would work like a flash, the Russian people would rise up and overthrow the evil Putin and everything would be great. Bloody morons.

It´s bad that we can´t export fish to Russia, but it´s not really a crisis. But losing those trade connections permanently and damaging relations with a country that we´ve been on friendly terms with forever, now that would be a disaster.

The sanctions against Russia are evaporating. They aren´t working and the longer they last the more harmful they will be for those who imposed them. And without Russia they can´t resolve the Middle East mess that they created. Afghanistan is also a big headache and the closed supply route through Russia.

They´ve written the Crimea off, Russia will never return that. As for the Donbass; the longer that drags on the more likelihood that this pseudo-country of Ukraine will simply come apart, at least with the current screwballs in charge.

Hear hear. Do you live in Finland too?

Where I live the scumbags in charge joined other NATO nutbags in those ridiculous sanctions. Then when the Russians made the counter-move costing us probably $100 million or more in exports, those idiots tell us that there´s no discount for international law. I just hope that they haven´t damaged trade with Russians permanently.

It´s amazing, we´ve always had great relations with the Russians and the Soviets and they throw it all away overnight to follow crazies that don´t give a flyin eff about us.