Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 9. (Read 734725 times)

I cant read russian. but it's fine because i know that news already.
Now ask yourself why mighty russia is now, 56 years after founding of opec, starting talks about joining opec?
Exactly, russia's economy is in a deep structural crisis because majority of the income comes from exporting gas & oil. They are pretty much begging the sauds to decrease oil output.


This makes no sense.
Try to read what you just wrote.
Price of Oil: July 2008: 145 $/Barrel, Feb 2016: 30$/Barrel



Im not US American, sorry doesnt bother me a bit, but i see what you wanna try lol


Sorry, but facts are what they are: facts.
It doesnt matter if you feel sore and think i'm a western MSM-Agent. Russia's economy is in deep shit and everyone knows - it is just a question of time until putins propanda will collapse.
Numbers dont lie and the russians numbers regarding economic are pretty bad.

I.e. Russias 2016 budget is/was calculated with an avg. crude oil price of 50$ which would follow a 3% deficit.
For every 5$ price difference there will be 1% more deficit.
And we are just talking about gas & oil - not even thinking about sanctions.

(and my source for that is the russian .gov)


Good lord, if i would be paranoid or a conspiracy nutjob i would now think that the KG... aeh FSB is targeting me LOL

(but no, im not a russian hater or cia agent)

Or of course you are right and their is a world wide anti putin & russia conspiracy going on 

Two fun facts. Russia joins OPEC in the moratorium on further oil extraction.

https://rns.online/lightnings/Saudovskaya-araviya-soglasilas-zamorozit-dobichu-nefti-2016-02-16/

And Russia started selling oil to USA...

The last bit is one of the reasons why USA was pushing the price down. If the oil price is any higher, US economy will be in deep trouble.

You seem to love links. Let me add this one:

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

As for Russian economy - it's seen worse during the WWII and post-WWII, and during the desolation of the Wild 90's. It'll persevere.

PS: Oh, and criptix, you should seek help for the Western-MSM-induced Putin-fixation. Russian politics is much more than Putin.  

PSS: What criptix did, really, is just dump a bunch of links in hopes of creating a sensation out of thin air. Does anyone here say that Russia does not experience economic difficulties? No. Russia has been tightly integrated into the European and American economy during the 90s. When those economies feel ill, so does Russian economy. It's as simple as that.

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Criptix' sensationalism plays on the fact that few read Russian press and assume, that the Western MSM publish something sensational that is "hushed up by da evil Putin". If people read Russian media, they'd known that there is a lively public debate about the state of the domestic economy, and what to do about the current recession.

So, the ultimate goal of criptix' message was three-fold: create a sensation out of something that is not; perform a character attack on Putin and (in his subsequent message) perform and ad-hominem attack on those, who play a bridge-building role here.

If we are anyway to go so much off-topic here, the following translation seems quite appropriate:
http://stanislavs.org/andrey-karaulov-those-who-laughed-at-us-yesterday-are-no-longer-laughing-today/

Quoting two fragments:

I have no sympathies for Merkel. This was originally her idea, remember? But things didn't quite worked out as per her plans. Now with her approval rating at an all time low, and the Eastern Europeans planning a rebellion against her, Merkel is getting desperate. She is literally begging Erdogan to stop sending in the immigrants. But Erdogan will not let it go without extracting his pound of flesh. 

oh dear you seem to have a lot of experience regarding it 

Don´t let the door hit your ass on the way out. Might damage your brain.

im shocked or actually im not 

what a display of literacy and intelligence. no wonder why you people like putin and trump

Lightweight crap trying to peddle sugar-coated dogshit. Small wonder that it´s alone around here in that enterprise.

a lot of fun actually  

just sad that nobody pays my overtime 

Must be lonely being about alone in bashing Putin on these threads of bitcointalk 

soon reality will hit even the biggest putin shill  
and i read that all here:

http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21688932-russias-economic-problems-move-acute-chronic-phase-two

http://www.worldbank.org/en/country/russia/overview

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2016/01/26/russian-economy-holding-on-for-dear-life/#26b159d0590f

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/russias-economy-of-disillusionment/2016/01/17/0803598e-bb97-11e5-829c-26ffb874a18d_story.html

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35398423

Yeah, I read somewhere that a third of young Algerians want to go to Europe. If the oil price stays depressed the pressure will increase to move to greener pastures. And also from down below in Africa, Nigeria etc. How many refugees are there in Turkey, 2-3 million? Erdogan has Merkel by the balls. Well, figuratively speaking. It´s a nice extortion racket, keep paying or we´ll send the horde on its way. It´s desperate. What a show. Not so long ago there was much gloating that the Russians were isolated and Putin was a pariah. Well, those experts clearly don´t know their ass from their elbow and certainly don´t have the slightest clue about strategy otherwise they
wouldn´t be constantly blundering and underestimating the Russians. It´s almost like those neocon nutballs are Russian agents they´re that effective in screwing everything up that they touch for the United States of America.

Lol.. I am waiting for the winter to end. Some 1.3 million immigrants traveled to Europe from the middle east during the September-November 2015 time period. My guess is that some 3 to 4 million are going to make the trip during the 2016 March-November period. It will be fun to watch them arriving in Germany and Sweden. 

Soon enough it´ll be March and then it´ll be spring before they know it. Calmer seas and much better travel conditions in Europe. They´re shitting bricks from fear in Munich. Uncle Sam is threatening to start bombing in Libya again and will probably manage to destabilize the entire North Africa to stimulate the refugee business. Interesting times indeed.

Well yeah, I suspect that the reporter included that aggression bit for the editors of Bloomberg. As for the refugees much of them are refugees from Iraq which fled to Syria years ago and of course this whole mess has been escalating since the invasion of Iraq. But they´re not interested in discussing that now or cause and effect for that matter.

You've got to love how they still cling to the "Russian aggression" narrative despite all the repeated evidence to the contrary. Russia just exists - that's the act of aggression... They've added "Russia is to blame for the refugee flood" narrative to their Russia-bashing arsenal, also despite the evidence that the flood started from Turkey several months before Russia started solving the Syrian problem.

In the meantime, Medvedev said that Russia is troubled by the possibility of split up of Schengen and that Russia is ready to assist EU in solving their problems:
http://www.aif.ru/politics/world/medvedev_vyrazil_opaseniya_v_svyazi_s_vozmozhnym_raspadom_shengenskoy_zony

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I don't think that is going to happen anytime in the near future. Russia is never going to join the European Union. Russia might expand the Eurasian Economic Union by adding new members such as Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, Iraq, North Korea and Mongolia. But there is hardly any chance of the Eurasian Union merging with the European Union.

Anyway, I think it´s inevitable that Europe and Russia will merge one way or the other eventually. The Russians will join the European Union in due course with their massive natural resources. The U.S. has just been trying to delay this inevitable outcome.

It´s a beautiful unit and Europe won´t be an insignificant appendage of western  Eurasia anymore.

Yes, but Sevastopol for NATO and Donbass for German industry, new Czechland, was probably the big dream.......

The mob has got control of the major industries and natural resources of Ukraine. They are satisfied with that. It is the ordinary Ukrainians and the Western European farmers who are paying the price for the misadventures of the mob. Unemployment in Ukraine is at all time high, and the European agricultural products are rotting in storage centers without any market.