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Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 9. (Read 734910 times)

legendary
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February 16, 2016, 06:26:51 AM

Two fun facts. Russia joins OPEC in the moratorium on further oil extraction.

https://rns.online/lightnings/Saudovskaya-araviya-soglasilas-zamorozit-dobichu-nefti-2016-02-16/

And Russia started selling oil to USA...

The last bit is one of the reasons why USA was pushing the price down. If the oil price is any higher, US economy will be in deep trouble.

You seem to love links. Let me add this one:

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

As for Russian economy - it's seen worse during the WWII and post-WWII, and during the desolation of the Wild 90's. It'll persevere.

PS: Oh, and criptix, you should seek help for the Western-MSM-induced Putin-fixation. Russian politics is much more than Putin.  Wink

PSS: What criptix did, really, is just dump a bunch of links in hopes of creating a sensation out of thin air. Does anyone here say that Russia does not experience economic difficulties? No. Russia has been tightly integrated into the European and American economy during the 90s. When those economies feel ill, so does Russian economy. It's as simple as that.



Criptix' sensationalism plays on the fact that few read Russian press and assume, that the Western MSM publish something sensational that is "hushed up by da evil Putin". If people read Russian media, they'd known that there is a lively public debate about the state of the domestic economy, and what to do about the current recession.

So, the ultimate goal of criptix' message was three-fold: create a sensation out of something that is not; perform a character attack on Putin and (in his subsequent message) perform and ad-hominem attack on those, who play a bridge-building role here.

If we are anyway to go so much off-topic here, the following translation seems quite appropriate:
http://stanislavs.org/andrey-karaulov-those-who-laughed-at-us-yesterday-are-no-longer-laughing-today/

Quoting two fragments:

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Today, the best minds say that the rouble is undervalued by a third. And if the rouble is undervalued, why the hell did it drop relative to the dollar?! With these missiles! Say thanks to Anatoly Chubais – he was one of those who developed the scheme, where the rouble got pegged to the oil price. Some villains turned up, who agreed that the oil in our major export commodity.
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Liberal historian Boris Sokolov counted how many people died over the course of only two years – 1992 and 1993 – during the so-called “reforms” of Gaidar and Chubais. 150.000 more than during the executions of 1937-1938.
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legendary
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February 15, 2016, 01:07:46 PM
How many refugees are there in Turkey, 2-3 million? Erdogan has Merkel by the balls. Well, figuratively speaking. It´s a nice extortion racket, keep paying or we´ll send the horde on its way.

I have no sympathies for Merkel. This was originally her idea, remember? But things didn't quite worked out as per her plans. Now with her approval rating at an all time low, and the Eastern Europeans planning a rebellion against her, Merkel is getting desperate. She is literally begging Erdogan to stop sending in the immigrants. But Erdogan will not let it go without extracting his pound of flesh.  Grin
legendary
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February 15, 2016, 01:00:01 AM
Don´t let the door hit your ass on the way out. Might damage your brain.

oh dear you seem to have a lot of experience regarding it  Cheesy
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February 15, 2016, 12:48:15 AM
Don´t let the door hit your ass on the way out. Might damage your brain.
legendary
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February 15, 2016, 12:42:15 AM
Lightweight crap trying to peddle sugar-coated dogshit. Small wonder that it´s alone around here in that enterprise.

im shocked or actually im not  Grin

what a display of literacy and intelligence. no wonder why you people like putin and trump Cheesy
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February 15, 2016, 12:38:50 AM
Lightweight crap trying to peddle sugar-coated dogshit. Small wonder that it´s alone around here in that enterprise.
legendary
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February 15, 2016, 12:16:57 AM
Must be lonely being about alone in bashing Putin on these threads of bitcointalk Grin

a lot of fun actually  Cheesy

just sad that nobody pays my overtime  Undecided
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February 15, 2016, 12:10:58 AM
Must be lonely being about alone in bashing Putin on these threads of bitcointalk Grin
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February 14, 2016, 10:53:48 PM
Soon enough it´ll be March and then it´ll be spring before they know it. Calmer seas and much better travel conditions in Europe. They´re shitting bricks from fear in Munich. Uncle Sam is threatening to start bombing in Libya again and will probably manage to destabilize the entire North Africa to stimulate the refugee business. Interesting times indeed.

Lol.. I am waiting for the winter to end. Some 1.3 million immigrants traveled to Europe from the middle east during the September-November 2015 time period. My guess is that some 3 to 4 million are going to make the trip during the 2016 March-November period. It will be fun to watch them arriving in Germany and Sweden.  Grin

Yeah, I read somewhere that a third of young Algerians want to go to Europe. If the oil price stays depressed the pressure will increase to move to greener pastures. And also from down below in Africa, Nigeria etc. How many refugees are there in Turkey, 2-3 million? Erdogan has Merkel by the balls. Well, figuratively speaking. It´s a nice extortion racket, keep paying or we´ll send the horde on its way. It´s desperate. What a show. Not so long ago there was much gloating that the Russians were isolated and Putin was a pariah. Well, those experts clearly don´t know their ass from their elbow and certainly don´t have the slightest clue about strategy otherwise they
wouldn´t be constantly blundering and underestimating the Russians. It´s almost like those neocon nutballs are Russian agents they´re that effective in screwing everything up that they touch for the United States of America.
legendary
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February 14, 2016, 09:25:14 PM
Soon enough it´ll be March and then it´ll be spring before they know it. Calmer seas and much better travel conditions in Europe. They´re shitting bricks from fear in Munich. Uncle Sam is threatening to start bombing in Libya again and will probably manage to destabilize the entire North Africa to stimulate the refugee business. Interesting times indeed.

Lol.. I am waiting for the winter to end. Some 1.3 million immigrants traveled to Europe from the middle east during the September-November 2015 time period. My guess is that some 3 to 4 million are going to make the trip during the 2016 March-November period. It will be fun to watch them arriving in Germany and Sweden.  Grin
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February 14, 2016, 04:17:44 PM
Soon enough it´ll be March and then it´ll be spring before they know it. Calmer seas and much better travel conditions in Europe. They´re shitting bricks from fear in Munich. Uncle Sam is threatening to start bombing in Libya again and will probably manage to destabilize the entire North Africa to stimulate the refugee business. Interesting times indeed.
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February 14, 2016, 03:48:40 PM
Europe's Convinced U.S. Won't Solve Its Problems

FEB 13, 2016 3:32 PM EST

By Josh Rogin

Europe is facing a convergence of the worst crises since World War II, and the overwhelming consensus among officials and experts here is that the U.S. no longer has the will or the ability to play an influential role in solving them.

At the Munich Security Conference, the prime topics are the refugee crisis, the Syrian conflict, Russian aggression and the potential dissolution of the European Union's very structure. Top European leaders repeatedly lamented that 2015 saw all of Europe’s problems deepen, and unanimously predicted that in 2016 they would get even worse.

“The question of war and peace has returned to the continent,” German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier told the audience, indirectly referring to Russian military interventions. “We had thought that peace had returned to Europe for good."

...

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2016-02-13/europe-s-convinced-u-s-won-t-solve-its-problems

You've got to love how they still cling to the "Russian aggression" narrative despite all the repeated evidence to the contrary. Russia just exists - that's the act of aggression... They've added "Russia is to blame for the refugee flood" narrative to their Russia-bashing arsenal, also despite the evidence that the flood started from Turkey several months before Russia started solving the Syrian problem.

In the meantime, Medvedev said that Russia is troubled by the possibility of split up of Schengen and that Russia is ready to assist EU in solving their problems:
http://www.aif.ru/politics/world/medvedev_vyrazil_opaseniya_v_svyazi_s_vozmozhnym_raspadom_shengenskoy_zony

Well yeah, I suspect that the reporter included that aggression bit for the editors of Bloomberg. As for the refugees much of them are refugees from Iraq which fled to Syria years ago and of course this whole mess has been escalating since the invasion of Iraq. But they´re not interested in discussing that now or cause and effect for that matter.
legendary
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February 14, 2016, 03:25:34 PM
Europe's Convinced U.S. Won't Solve Its Problems

FEB 13, 2016 3:32 PM EST

By Josh Rogin

Europe is facing a convergence of the worst crises since World War II, and the overwhelming consensus among officials and experts here is that the U.S. no longer has the will or the ability to play an influential role in solving them.

At the Munich Security Conference, the prime topics are the refugee crisis, the Syrian conflict, Russian aggression and the potential dissolution of the European Union's very structure. Top European leaders repeatedly lamented that 2015 saw all of Europe’s problems deepen, and unanimously predicted that in 2016 they would get even worse.

“The question of war and peace has returned to the continent,” German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier told the audience, indirectly referring to Russian military interventions. “We had thought that peace had returned to Europe for good."

...

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2016-02-13/europe-s-convinced-u-s-won-t-solve-its-problems

You've got to love how they still cling to the "Russian aggression" narrative despite all the repeated evidence to the contrary. Russia just exists - that's the act of aggression... They've added "Russia is to blame for the refugee flood" narrative to their Russia-bashing arsenal, also despite the evidence that the flood started from Turkey several months before Russia started solving the Syrian problem.

In the meantime, Medvedev said that Russia is troubled by the possibility of split up of Schengen and that Russia is ready to assist EU in solving their problems:
http://www.aif.ru/politics/world/medvedev_vyrazil_opaseniya_v_svyazi_s_vozmozhnym_raspadom_shengenskoy_zony
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February 14, 2016, 02:19:49 PM
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legendary
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February 14, 2016, 01:40:14 PM
The Russians will join the European Union in due course with their massive natural resources. The U.S. has just been trying to delay this inevitable outcome.

I don't think that is going to happen anytime in the near future. Russia is never going to join the European Union. Russia might expand the Eurasian Economic Union by adding new members such as Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, Iraq, North Korea and Mongolia. But there is hardly any chance of the Eurasian Union merging with the European Union.
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February 14, 2016, 01:29:33 PM
Anyway, I think it´s inevitable that Europe and Russia will merge one way or the other eventually. The Russians will join the European Union in due course with their massive natural resources. The U.S. has just been trying to delay this inevitable outcome.

It´s a beautiful unit and Europe won´t be an insignificant appendage of western  Eurasia anymore.
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February 14, 2016, 01:24:32 PM
Yeah, yeah. Crimea gone, Donbass gone. The mob has lost all interest and certainly has no interest in picking up any bills.

The mob has got control of the major industries and natural resources of Ukraine. They are satisfied with that. It is the ordinary Ukrainians and the Western European farmers who are paying the price for the misadventures of the mob. Unemployment in Ukraine is at all time high, and the European agricultural products are rotting in storage centers without any market.

Yes, but Sevastopol for NATO and Donbass for German industry, new Czechland, was probably the big dream.......
legendary
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February 14, 2016, 01:11:01 PM
Yeah, yeah. Crimea gone, Donbass gone. The mob has lost all interest and certainly has no interest in picking up any bills.

The mob has got control of the major industries and natural resources of Ukraine. They are satisfied with that. It is the ordinary Ukrainians and the Western European farmers who are paying the price for the misadventures of the mob. Unemployment in Ukraine is at all time high, and the European agricultural products are rotting in storage centers without any market.
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February 14, 2016, 12:51:45 PM
“There’s not a lot of talk about how the United States can be part of the solution. We seem to be disappearing from their calculations,” said Walter Russell Mead, a historian with the Hudson Institute. “From the European standpoint, Putin has become somebody that like it or not that they have to deal with.”

Yeah, yeah. Crimea gone, Donbass gone. The mob has lost all interest and certainly has no interest in picking up any bills.

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