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Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 15. (Read 734725 times)

legendary
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November 12, 2015, 12:47:50 PM
and to have more Territory
What an idiot you are, you even have no idea that Russia's square is greater than that of Pluto. Projecting it is all you're capable of, Dr. Freud would be pleased.

People! Don't believe that russians help the ukrainian people! All that they want is to show their "power" to World, and to have more Territory, closer to Europe. Angry

Russians help the same Russians that live on territory of Ukraine. Really it is it heavy to understand?
Citizens of Orwellian Oceania are neither allowed to think nor speak rationally. They're forced to replace a rational thinking & reasonable conversation with the doublethink & doublespeak paradigm.

http://humansarefree.com/2013/01/what-means-war-is-peace-freedom-is.html
legendary
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November 12, 2015, 12:42:06 PM
People! Don't believe that russians help the ukrainian people! All that they want is to show their "power" to World, and to have more Territory, closer to Europe. Angry

Russians help the same Russians that live on territory of Ukraine. Really it is it heavy to understand?
hero member
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November 12, 2015, 11:57:37 AM
So, what´s Uncle Sam whining here about? Someone told me back then but I just plain forgot. And my Russian is pretty much non-existent unfortunately.



sr. member
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November 12, 2015, 11:50:11 AM
People! Don't believe that russians help the ukrainian people! All that they want is to show their "power" to World, and to have more Territory, closer to Europe. Angry
legendary
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November 11, 2015, 07:31:49 AM
Some recent stats:

Since August last year Russia sent to Donbass 43 humanitarian aid convoys, with over 50 thousand tonnes of goods, mainly food from the Federal emergency reserves. Russia has also taken upon itself the support of the socially insecure groups of people in Donbass, paying pensions to the elderly and performing other social payments. This is done because Kiev continues to refuse to observe the economical part of the Minsk agreement, and has completely isolated Donbass from the rest of the Ukrainian economy.

In addition, children, who require urgent medical assistance either from being wounded from Ukrainian artillery or because of acute illness are taken to Russia for free medical treatment.
legendary
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November 09, 2015, 09:22:46 PM
About an hour ago Ukro-Nazis, aka "Ukrainian Armed Forces" resumed shelling of the Northern residential districts of the city Donetsk (thus violating the Minsk-2 agreement). In their renewed war crimes Ukros use mortars, grenade launchers and firearms.
http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/2420623

If this continues, then the DNR army will have no other option, but to liberate some of the neighboring Raions from the Kiev nazi rule. The front-line is located so close to the city of Donetsk (may be just 3 or 4 km from the city boundaries), and that is why the Ukronazis are shelling the city. It should be pushed back further... by at least 20 or 30 kms.
legendary
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November 09, 2015, 04:36:20 PM
About an hour ago Ukro-Nazis, aka "Ukrainian Armed Forces" resumed shelling of the Northern residential districts of the city Donetsk (thus violating the Minsk-2 agreement). In their renewed war crimes Ukros use mortars, grenade launchers and firearms.
http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/2420623
legendary
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November 09, 2015, 07:47:06 AM
While the attention is on Syria, Egypt and the USNATO's going out of their way to whitewash ISIS and put the blame on Russia for fighting international terrorism, the UkroNazis are again making a creeping move.

Residents of Gorlovka reported yesterday that UkoNazi Grad artillery again started shelling their city. There are also reports of pulling or Ukrainian artillery towards Donetsk.

http://gorlovka.today/obshchestvo/3297-razvedka-dnr-vyyavila-pod-gorlovkoj-tyazheluyu-artilleriyu
http://gorlovka.today/dnr/3299-za-nedelyu-minoborony-dnr-zafiksirovalo-93-ukrainskikh-obstrela
hero member
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'I am Russian!' US Boxing Star Roy Jones Gets Passport (VIDEO)

13:51 27.10.2015

MOSCOW (Sputnik) — After a ceremony held at Moscow’s main migration office, the US boxing legend said he was happy to be a Russian citizen and announced that he was taking Russian language classes.

"I am Russian!" the 46-year-old exclaimed.



Jones, a silver medalist in the 1988 Seoul Olympic Games and an absolute world champion in the middleweight division, was granted Russian citizenship on September 12 by an order of President Vladimir Putin. As of now, he holds dual US-Russian citizenship. ......

http://sputniknews.com/sport/20151027/1029164985/roy-jones-russian.html
legendary
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Washington, by the decision of the US Congress, will be demanding of the IS-terrorist supporting Ukro-nazi government in Kiev that they continue the civil war in Donbass (effectively, the genocide of the Russian population there) until the bitter end. USA will pay $300million annually to achieve this.

http://regnum.ru/news/international/1989855.html

Knowing Russian history, this will mean: until Nazis in Ukraine are defeated, the usurpers are driven out and the borders of Ukraine are restored in their historic shape.  Grin

Apropos IS-terrorist-supporting:

https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/10/09/look-whos-finally-waking-up-eu-plan-b-treat-russia-nicely-stop-being-us-stooge

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EU may have not liked so much the latest pronouncements from the insane asylum formerly called Ukraine. During his UN speech drunk Poroshenko announced that “Russia is attempting to destabilize ISIS,” which I think embarrassed every remaining sane Ukrainian on the face of the Earth. Later Poroshenko proposed that Ukraine should gather data on families of Russian pilots in Syria in order to pass them on to ISIS so they would terrorize these families. Anton Gerashchenko, former advisor to Poroshenko and present Ukraine’s interior ministry advisor, announced that Ukraine should send troops to help ISIS take revenge on Russia.
legendary
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http://www.rusdialog.ru/news/41428_1444157261

DPR communications supervisor decided to drop its dependency on Ukrainian ISPs at the beginning of 2016. Russian ISPs will be invited to fill the vacuum through providing their services on the territory of republic. This decision was published after 17% increase of traffic prices by Ukrteletom.
newbie
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I didn't read it : but Smiley ahhh those real patriot! how not to love them Cheesy
legendary
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Poroshenko said that the decision by the leadership of DNR and LNR to postpone the elections in the republics until the next year is "a step towards returning of Ukraine into Donbass" (note the formulation - it's as if Ukraine seeks to join Donbass!) Smiley

http://lenta.ru/news/2015/10/06/petro/

The real reason for postponement is to ensure the political stability in the republics, giving them more time to mature. DNR and LNR still demand from Kiev to observe Minsk agreements, points which include granting Donbass special status, general amnesty and changes to Ukrainian Constitution.

Meanwhile, Ukraine may try something in DNR while the attention is on Syria, if only to create a false-flag for their masters - yesterday the republican army shot down the 5th Ukrainian military UAV that attempted to overfly the territory of the republic. (Where does Ukraine get these UAVs from?)
legendary
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September 25, 2015, 03:02:37 PM
A very interesting analysis and info:

Breaking! Lugansk People’s Republic (LNR) Readies to Ask to Join Russia + Hot Intel on Donetsk
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/09/24/breaking-lugansk-peoples-republic-lnr-readies-to-ask-to-join-russia-hot-intel-on-donetsk/
legendary
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September 22, 2015, 05:54:11 AM
A Return to Nikishino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSWFzZaATw0

This is a video report by Graham Philips. He is accompanied by the soldiers of Donetsk Republican Army to a position just 200m away from the Ukrainian blockpost, and then uses a quadcopter get an areal report.

As one of the commenters on YouTube said, Graham deserves a Nobel Prise for journalism. That is so true - Graham single-handedly did more to document and report on this conflict than almost every other Western journalist combined.
legendary
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September 19, 2015, 02:09:01 PM
Recruitment Of Ukraine’s “Child Soldiers” Financed By US “Nonlethal” Military Aid?
http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/recruitment-of-ukraines-child-soldiers-financed-by-us-nonlethal-military-aid/

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Unknown to most Americans, the US government is channeling financial support, weapons and training to a Neo-Nazi entity –which is part of The Ukraine National Guard– The Azov Battalion (Бaтaльйoн Aзoв). Canada and Britain have confirmed that they also are providing support to the National Guard.

The Azov Battalion -which “officially” displays the Nazi SS emblem– (below left) is described by the Kiev regime as “a volunteer battalion of territorial defense”. It’s a National Guard battalion under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the equivalent of America’s Homeland Security.

Officially based in Berdyank on the Sea of Azov, the Azov battalion was formed by the regime to fight the opposition insurgency in the Donbass region. (Eastern and Southern Ukraine).

Military Training of Young Children to fight the Russians

The Azov battalion supported by its Western partners is not only involved in para-military operations in Eastern Ukraine. According to reports including the Kyiv Post (Ukraine mainstream media), it is running a Summer Camp military training project for young children as part of its broader training and indoctrination program.

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Banner reads "The Idea of the Nation, The Power within You"

The military trainers are part of the Azov paramilitary dispatched to the Summer Camp (see the Nazi SS insignia on his uniform below):

sr. member
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September 17, 2015, 11:37:18 AM
Militants shelled Krasnohorivka from tank, - Donetsk region police

Abroskin wrote: "The militants committed artillery strike on Soniachnyi neighborhood in the suburb of Krasnohorivka which is situated in the Marinka district several minutes ago. A high rise residential building has been impacted. The structure actually stands on the demarcation line. No civilian casualties as a result. According to preliminary information, the terrorists are shelling the town from a tank."

http://24today.net/open/530813
legendary
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September 17, 2015, 06:45:50 AM
The monitoring mission of the UN Human Rights Council to Ukraine has recorded facts of mass killings of civilians, abductions, torture, sexual abuse, forced labor and extortion by Russian-backed militants in Donbas, according to Ukraine’s Foreign Ministry.  

"Ukraine has carefully studied the eleventh Report of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, which covers the period from May 16 to August 15, 2015. The information collected by the monitoring mission is another evidence of a highly negative impact of the Russian aggression against Ukraine on the human rights. In particular, it clearly states the impact on human rights across the region of external factors, such as Russian supply of military forces, weapons and ammunition to the Donbas," as stated in comments by MFA of Ukraine provided to UNIAN.

It is noted that the report is of great importance as it documents the crimes committed by Russian-backed illegal armed groups in the east of Ukraine. Among the facts reported by the mission are mass killings of civilians, abductions, torture, sexual abuse, forced labor and extortion.

Read more on UNIAN: http://www.unian.info/politics/1120582-un-monitors-report-mass-killings-of-civilians-by-militants-in-donbas.html

I hope Putin's forces kill every single Ukrainian Terrorist. If they hold a gun and are Ukrainian then die bitches.

Coinits, no. Violence and hatred leads to more violence and hatred. That's not the Russian way. Many/most of those Ukrainians with guns are either brainwashed or intimidated into fighting. They are most often common blokes taken off the streets (literally) and thrown into the meetgrinder. Just like the Germans invading USSR during WWII were for the most part common people.

We must find and bring to justice all those, who organised and orchestrated this civil war, a Nurenberg for Ukrainian oligarchs and their backers, if you please. I just don't see USA extraditing Biden and Nudelman (aka Nuland) to be tried at such a trial...

Now on to the sensationalist article, mentioned by Pagan 2.0

As always, let's go to the source and not fixate on a pro-Bandre interpretation of the site above:

http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Countries/UA/11thOHCHRreportUkraine.pdf

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HRMMU  continued  to  receive  and  verify  allegations  of  killings,  abductions,  torture
and ill-treatment, sexual violence, forced labour, ransom demands and extortion of money on
the territories controlled by the ‘Donetsk people’s  republic’ and ‘Luhansk people’s republic’. It
also  received  reports  of  isolated  incidents  where  armed  groups  disrupted  religious  services
and intimidated several religious communities. An estimated three million people continue to
reside in the territories under control of the ‘Donetsk people’s republic’ and ‘Luhansk people’s
republic’ without protection from the human rights violations and abuses of the armed groups
and  their  supporters.  The  estimated  hundreds  of  people  held  by  the  armed  groups  are  at
particular risk of being tortured, ill-treated or otherwise abused.

What strikes me in the report is a total ambiguity. Let's see

 - "HRMMU  continued  to  receive  and  verify  allegations". Yes. Allegation. Mostly coming from Kiev officials. The only international mission on the ground in the are is OCSE.

- "on  the territories controlled by the ‘Donetsk people’s  republic’ and ‘Luhansk people’s republic’". What is does not say, is all the cases of mass graves that DNR and LNR uncovered on the territories that were under control of the Ukrainian ultranationalists, but which were liberated by DNR/LNR and thus came under their control.

OCSE refused to investigate those:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIrr2JCDuG4

Here is one uncovered mass grave 60 kilometres from Donetsk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMj0FtseVfs

Tortured bodies in mass graves:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i43fxk95Xa4

Here is from Lugansk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1wp13laCt8

 - "where  armed  groups  disrupted  religious  services" - Ukro-Nazi armed groups have been burning Orthodox churches. Why not say it like that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKbjbAXs8oc

And here is a video report from Donetsk from 1 month ago, locals complain that Donestk is being shelled again by Ukrainian punishers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t2qgMRakws

- "The  estimated  hundreds  of  people  held  by  the  armed  groups  are  at particular risk of being tortured, ill-treated or otherwise abused." - Again, why not mention which "armed groups". Donetsk and Lugansk authorities have files with testimonials of hundreds of civilians and military personel, who were liberated from the Kiev armed groups and bear witness of torture and simulated executions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSyKMdjOc84
Torture and execution of civilians of Donetsk region: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0daZ34uQRso
Torture in the freezer rooms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgY2Mj0lDJY
Witness account: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mrG8GCSYws
Project highlighting torture of political prisoners in Ukraine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FdPsB4paE0
hero member
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September 17, 2015, 06:42:09 AM
Bribing mobsters in an effort to decrease mob violence (apart from the good kind of violence where the mobsters wipe out each other) is an old strategy but has had very limited results over time. Yet another failure:

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Former Secretary of the Nobel Peace Prize Committee Geir Lundestad reportedly notes in his new book that the body “didn't achieve what it had hoped for” when it gave Barack Obama the benefit of the doubt and conferred the prestigious award on him in 2009.
While it is quite rare for Nobel officials to openly discuss the nuts and bolts of their secretive committee, the former director of the Norwegian Nobel Institute has apparently owned up in his memoir ‘Secretary of Peace’, to be released on Thursday, that the panel had expected the award to somewhat challenge Obama, who received the Nobel Peace Prize during his first term.

The Norwegian historian told AP that the committee "thought it would strengthen Obama and it didn't have this effect." The five members of the Nobel Committee, often former politicians, are appointed by the Norwegian parliament. The coveted award was met with an avalanche of criticism instead. An army of opponents noted that Obama had made no foreign policy achievements worthy of the prize in less than nine months in office. On top of this, he received the award while the US was engaged in wars in Iraq and Afghanistan....

http://www.rt.com/news/315701-obama-peace-prize-mistake/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome
legendary
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September 17, 2015, 06:13:23 AM
Balthazar, that type joined his like-mouthed on my ignore list. Don't think he qualifies for a reply.

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