Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 18. (Read 734937 times)
^^^^ Putin can keep a large army on the Ukrainian border, because he can afford to do so. On the other hand, your Kiev junta has lost more than half of the regular soldiers in battles such as Debaltsevo, Ilovaysk, and the Southern Cauldron (either killed or maimed). Now the junta is depending on the neo-Nazi battalions to guard the Russo-Ukrainian border.
Why did Russia give Ukraine a bunch of their tanks within the last decade, only for Donetsk Republican Army to steal them later?
The Donetsk Republican Army didn't steal the tanks. The coward junta soldiers left those tanks in the battlefield, while fleeing. 100% of the rebel tanks were captured from the junta soldiers. The rebels are actually thanking the junta for making timely arms and equipment deliveries. Now they are expecting fresh supplies of American Humvees.
Yes and Kiev give too Russian Flag to put on it LoL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KHOKeeDP-A
Why do you think Poutinoclown keep a so big army on Ukraina border ?? LoL .... to watch the cow on next border ?
Why did Russia give Ukraine a bunch of their tanks within the last decade, only for Donetsk Republican Army to steal them later?
The Donetsk Republican Army didn't steal the tanks. The coward junta soldiers left those tanks in the battlefield, while fleeing. 100% of the rebel tanks were captured from the junta soldiers. The rebels are actually thanking the junta for making timely arms and equipment deliveries. Now they are expecting fresh supplies of American Humvees.
Another Russian military plane has made a "hard landing." That's 8 Russian planes falling out of the sky in just 2 months. http://saracinua.livejournal.com/3223101.html
Nothing really to say about this but hahahahahahahahaha 
Gérard Depardieu reportedly blacklisted by Ukraine as threat to national security
Film star is put on list of 500 foreign cultural figures who allegedly speak out ‘in support of violating the territorial integrity of Ukraine’
Gérard Depardieu visits a livestock farm in the village of Zadomlya in Belarus. Photograph: Sergei Gapon/AFP/Getty Images
Gérard Depardieu reportedly blacklisted by Ukraine as threat to national security
Film star is put on list of 500 foreign cultural figures who allegedly speak out ‘in support of violating the territorial integrity of Ukraine’
Gérard Depardieu visits a livestock farm in the village of Zadomlya in Belarus. Photograph: Sergei Gapon/AFP/Getty Images
Why did Russia give Ukraine a bunch of their tanks within the last decade, only for Donetsk Republican Army to steal them later?
i.e. why is Donetsk riding around on Russian tanks?
i.e. why is Donetsk riding around on Russian tanks?
Well, it isnt really rocket science. After all the Russians watched for a long time psychotic crap voted into office by morons turn everything they meddled with around the world into horse manure. So, Ukraine would be eminently predictable once the mob crap got around to that. The Russians almost certainly had their helping hand as events developed there end 2013, beginning 2014. Their agents have been all over the Ukrainian system. Everything has benefited them especially the just perfect opportunity to bring back in the fold their beloved and hugely strategically important Crimea. They are bears as sly as foxes. Never ever underestimate them.
Why did Russia give Ukraine a bunch of their tanks within the last decade, only for Donetsk Republican Army to steal them later?
i.e. why is Donetsk riding around on Russian tanks?
i.e. why is Donetsk riding around on Russian tanks?
The Donetsk Republican Army pulled over 40 tanks and 80 armed transports from the front line,
Wait, what? Where did the completely independent and totally not being helped by Russia trust us Donetsk get 40 tanks and 80 armed transports?!
Well, the Ukrainian so called military has given up quite a lot. Maybe you haven´t been following the news much for the past year. Try googling the debaltsevo cauldron. It´ll then lead you to other similar things.
The Donetsk Republican Army pulled over 40 tanks and 80 armed transports from the front line,
Wait, what? Where did the completely independent and totally not being helped by Russia trust us Donetsk get 40 tanks and 80 armed transports?!
It´s mob property so it´s in NATO for all practical purposes.
So, I wonder what´s up with the Volkssturm offensive that Pornoshenko and the wannabe Himmlers have talked so much about since they got their asses handed to them last winter. Summer is burning away and for a largely useless military force a winter campaign is worse than pointless I guess.
So, I wonder what´s up with the Volkssturm offensive that Pornoshenko and the wannabe Himmlers have talked so much about since they got their asses handed to them last winter. Summer is burning away and for a largely useless military force a winter campaign is worse than pointless I guess.
The Donetsk Republican Army pulled over 40 tanks and 80 armed transports from the front line, and are awaiting that Kiev should do likewise. LAND has already completed the retraction process:
http://news.rambler.ru/world/30813824/?track=news_othernews
While OCSE does not want to count this movement of armoured vehicles away from the border for retraction, lacking specific details:
http://ria.ru/world/20150720/1138704608.html
Ukrainians want to conduct artillery exercises near Mariupol:
http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2015/07/20/n_7392361.shtml
Will it be exercises or "exercises"?
18 NATO countries participate in joint manoeuvres in Lvov oblast:
http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/2130944
Didn't know Ukraine was in NATO...
Before that (last week) NATO paid visit to Moldova. Just in case, so that Moldovans don't forget who their masters are...
http://news.rambler.ru/world/30813824/?track=news_othernews
While OCSE does not want to count this movement of armoured vehicles away from the border for retraction, lacking specific details:
http://ria.ru/world/20150720/1138704608.html
Ukrainians want to conduct artillery exercises near Mariupol:
http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2015/07/20/n_7392361.shtml
Will it be exercises or "exercises"?
18 NATO countries participate in joint manoeuvres in Lvov oblast:
http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/2130944
Didn't know Ukraine was in NATO...
Before that (last week) NATO paid visit to Moldova. Just in case, so that Moldovans don't forget who their masters are...
DNR one-sidedly pulls back heavy weapons from the front line. Kiev and West don't comment.
Well, USA does the opposite. A new batch of military hardware was just delivered to Ukraine.
LNR will conduct elections of the 1st of November. International observers are welcome.
http://ria.ru/world/20150718/1135772353.html
But would the West want to do anything with democracy?
After all, the West is not that happy with freedom of speech and does everything to block it.
Kiseljov's (the Russian journalist and host of the program "News of the Week", who is under US/EU sanctions for journalism) account on Facebook was banned after 3 hours of its existence, while a number of fake "Kiseljov" accounts, pretending to be from him keep on functioning:
http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2642655&cid=7
Well, USA does the opposite. A new batch of military hardware was just delivered to Ukraine.
LNR will conduct elections of the 1st of November. International observers are welcome.
http://ria.ru/world/20150718/1135772353.html
But would the West want to do anything with democracy?
After all, the West is not that happy with freedom of speech and does everything to block it.
Kiseljov's (the Russian journalist and host of the program "News of the Week", who is under US/EU sanctions for journalism) account on Facebook was banned after 3 hours of its existence, while a number of fake "Kiseljov" accounts, pretending to be from him keep on functioning:
http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2642655&cid=7
The following is highly indicative and fateful. It really shows who's who, and there all kinds of excrements tend to float up.
Daughter of Egor Gaidar - the "reformer" who during the Wild 90's facilitated the wholesale looting and destruction of Russian economy - Maria Gaidar, is now vice-governor of Odessa county. Her credentials: just like her mentor - Saakashvili, who appointed her - studied at a Western university - Harvard, which turned her into a perfect Manchurian Candidate.
She now applied for Ukrainian citizenship.
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2015/07/17/n_7385749.shtml
Daughter of Egor Gaidar - the "reformer" who during the Wild 90's facilitated the wholesale looting and destruction of Russian economy - Maria Gaidar, is now vice-governor of Odessa county. Her credentials: just like her mentor - Saakashvili, who appointed her - studied at a Western university - Harvard, which turned her into a perfect Manchurian Candidate.
She now applied for Ukrainian citizenship.
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2015/07/17/n_7385749.shtml
Yeah, it´s a mob garbage dumpster. Psychopath Tony Bliar is in some mob advisory council to the mob-installed crap in charge. He used to advise Kazakhstan’s president, Nursultan Nazarbayev, another spaceshot.. Maybe Baby Bush will end up as a viceroy of some district there. We´ll see.
The following is highly indicative and fateful. It really shows who's who, and there all kinds of excrements tend to float up.
Daughter of Egor Gaidar - the "reformer" who during the Wild 90's facilitated the wholesale looting and destruction of Russian economy - Maria Gaidar, is now vice-governor of Odessa county. Her credentials: just like her mentor - Saakashvili, who appointed her - studied at a Western university - Harvard, which turned her into a perfect Manchurian Candidate.
She now applied for Ukrainian citizenship.
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2015/07/17/n_7385749.shtml
Daughter of Egor Gaidar - the "reformer" who during the Wild 90's facilitated the wholesale looting and destruction of Russian economy - Maria Gaidar, is now vice-governor of Odessa county. Her credentials: just like her mentor - Saakashvili, who appointed her - studied at a Western university - Harvard, which turned her into a perfect Manchurian Candidate.
She now applied for Ukrainian citizenship.
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2015/07/17/n_7385749.shtml
Kiev (AFP) - Ukraine's parliament took the first step Thursday toward granting temporary self-rule to pro-Russian rebels under a change to the constitution the West hopes can end one of Europe's deadliest wars in recent years.
The divisive issue came to the floor on the day lawmakers also backed several belt-tightening measures needed for the quick release of a $5-billion (4.6-billion-euro) IMF payment that could spare cash-strapped Kiev from slipping into default.
The sudden flurry of activity led visiting US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland to call Thursday "yet another historic day" in a war-torn country that has seen 6,500 people killed since the overthrow of its Russian-backed leadership in February 2014.
Nuland will meet Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko later on Thursday to reassure him of Washington's backing and continued focus on the government's 15-month fight against separatists in the shattered industrial east. .....
The divisive issue came to the floor on the day lawmakers also backed several belt-tightening measures needed for the quick release of a $5-billion (4.6-billion-euro) IMF payment that could spare cash-strapped Kiev from slipping into default.
The sudden flurry of activity led visiting US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland to call Thursday "yet another historic day" in a war-torn country that has seen 6,500 people killed since the overthrow of its Russian-backed leadership in February 2014.
Nuland will meet Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko later on Thursday to reassure him of Washington's backing and continued focus on the government's 15-month fight against separatists in the shattered industrial east. .....
Right Sector are already threatening Poroshenko with extermination, saying that he'll not be able to flee the country:
http://ria.ru/world/20150715/1130129694.html
http://ria.ru/world/20150715/1130129694.html
A right sector coup can happen anytime now. Although they have the support of only around 20% of the general population, a majority of the younger Ukrainians (especially in the West) supports them. Also, their supporters are armed and have battle experience from the recent Donbass fighting. IMO, Porky's days are numbered.
Like I said earlier; Insane McCain was over there a couple weeks ago or so conferring with his fellow lunatic nazi pals. So, there´s most likely a connection there to this unrest. Of course the Russians play this nazi crap like a fiddle and had it infiltrated long ago.
Right Sector are already threatening Poroshenko with extermination, saying that he'll not be able to flee the country:
http://ria.ru/world/20150715/1130129694.html
They can kill each other off, for all I care. But the rest should be tried at an International Tribunal!
I don't know if the following "passionate" speech of Poroshenko of what expects "them as in Donbass" was ever translated to English and aired in Western MSM. Here's my approximate translation, Balthazar can probably verify and correct it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzhNDdMulik&feature=player_detailpage#t=3480
The above alone should be enough to put Poroshenko behind bars!
During the Ukro-Nazi operation against Donbass, hundreds of schools and kindergartens have been erased from the face of the earth, tens of hospitals, and many thousands of houses have been destroyed by artillery fire
http://ria.ru/world/20150715/1130129694.html
They can kill each other off, for all I care. But the rest should be tried at an International Tribunal!
I don't know if the following "passionate" speech of Poroshenko of what expects "them as in Donbass" was ever translated to English and aired in Western MSM. Here's my approximate translation, Balthazar can probably verify and correct it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzhNDdMulik&feature=player_detailpage#t=3480
Quote
We'll have work, they won't.
We'll have pensions, they won't.
We'll have social support(?) of people, pensioners, children, they won't [here Poroshenko stammers having trouble with Ukrainian]
Our children will go to school and to kindergartens, and theirs will be sitting in basements.
And thus and only thus will we win this whole war.
We'll have pensions, they won't.
We'll have social support(?) of people, pensioners, children, they won't [here Poroshenko stammers having trouble with Ukrainian]
Our children will go to school and to kindergartens, and theirs will be sitting in basements.
And thus and only thus will we win this whole war.
The above alone should be enough to put Poroshenko behind bars!
During the Ukro-Nazi operation against Donbass, hundreds of schools and kindergartens have been erased from the face of the earth, tens of hospitals, and many thousands of houses have been destroyed by artillery fire
Hmm, sounds promising. Finally maybe this crap can be of some productive use, bumping off each other...
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Right Sector: coup is coming
Last week, before the Mukacheve incident, VOA asked Right Sector spokesman Artem Skoropadsky to comment on the group's rhetoric and possible future course of action.
"If there's a new revolution, Ukraine's President Poroshenko and his teammates won't be able to make it out of the country the way the previous president [pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych] did," Skoropadsky told VOA. "They can't expect anything other than an execution in some dark vault, carried out by a group of young officers of Ukraine's army and National Guard."
http://www.voanews.com/content/ukraine-nationalists-say-country-headed-for-coup/2860024.html
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Right Sector: coup is coming
Last week, before the Mukacheve incident, VOA asked Right Sector spokesman Artem Skoropadsky to comment on the group's rhetoric and possible future course of action.
"If there's a new revolution, Ukraine's President Poroshenko and his teammates won't be able to make it out of the country the way the previous president [pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych] did," Skoropadsky told VOA. "They can't expect anything other than an execution in some dark vault, carried out by a group of young officers of Ukraine's army and National Guard."
http://www.voanews.com/content/ukraine-nationalists-say-country-headed-for-coup/2860024.html
I wonder if you are repeating one of those myths that were propagated in Finland after Lenin gave it independence and prior to it being used as a pawn by Germany. Because the period that you are talking about is when Finland had its own Senate and its own currency.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification_of_Finland
Hmm, I see your point, but through a different source (I'm largely distrustful of Wikipedia when it comes to politically-charged topics).
I went to an English-language source from 1899 which seems to be fairly objective in describing the issue:
http://archive.spectator.co.uk/article/25th-march-1899/5/the-russification-of-finland
And reading that article, only 18 years before the colour revolutions of 1917, I can see indicators to some internal power struggle within Russia, and possibly, what you'd call today NGOs - that day elites wishing more power for themselves, and less for the Czar, setting up a situation that would lead to unrest or that can be used to create unrest.
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