Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 153.

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The structure of "Gazprom" was left without a loan of $ 520 million after the US sanctions

Cтpyктypa «Гaзпpoмa» ocтaлacь бeз кpeдитa в $520 млн пocлe caнкций CШA

«Гaзпpoм» дeйcтвитeльнo oдин из лyчшиx и нaдeжныx зaeмщикoв, нo из-зa yгpoзы pacшиpeния caнкций pиcк нeвoзвpaтa кpeдитa cлишкoм вeлик, гoвopит глaвный экoнoмиcт БКC Bлaдимиp Tиxoмиpoв. Oн ccылaeтcя нa cтaтиcтикy Цeнтpoбaнкa PФ, кoтopaя пoкaзывaeт, чтo в июлe poccийcкиe кoмпaнии нe пpивлeкли ни oднoгo кpeдитa из-зa pyбeжa. «Из-зa тoгo чтo pиcки нeвoзмoжнo пpocчитaть, зaпaдныe бaнки пpeдпoчитaют нe пoвышaть cтaвки, a вoвce oткaзывaть poccийcким кoмпaниям в финaнcиpoвaнии», — зaключaeт oн.

Читaть пoлнocтью: http://top.rbc.ru/economics/16/09/2014/949203.shtml

Germany's largest gas company E.on refuses services of "Gazprom" in favor of Canada

http://news.rambler.ru/19419150/48989324/?utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=sharing&utm_media=sharing

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Quote from: myshownow on September 15, 2014, 02:45:37 AM

Quote from: niothor on September 15, 2014, 02:12:20 AM

Quote from: myshownow on September 15, 2014, 01:13:13 AM

It is becoming clear Russia is shouldering the sanctions very well like China did (

Barney Ruble just hit 38 this morning Wink

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Highest in 52 weeks was 31.

Try harder, my Romanian tobarish:

Note, the financial war Russia & China are doing is "De-dollarization". Russia is getting out of the dollar system. We are witnessing here the birth of an alternative financial system not based on the imploding dollar.

The Ruble-Dollar rate is just a ready propaganda tool of the WEst but anybody well-versed on economics knows the grain from the hulls. For all its worth, that SNAPSHOT rate is fluctuating, and it could change anytime,- in fact, it would recover later down the line after every sanction round. Since the start of this year, that has been the primary propaganda highlight of the WEst but look whose economy is holding and actually growing... it's Russia... and the supposedly "rich" EU shrinking...

How is international business conducted without the dollar?

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Quote from: myshownow on September 15, 2014, 05:10:37 AM

Russia reserves $400 billion

You mean oil? US has 30.5 billion barrels of oil in reserve. A barrel of oil is about $96 right now. You do the math.

Quote from: myshownow on September 15, 2014, 05:10:37 AM

BTW, Russia controls its own Central Bank & you can see it can but it doesn't have to print money like what the American Fed does because its coffers is still full

Actually, they don't print money like what the America Fed does, because russian ruble is already down 30% this year! They have enough inflation without printing any more money.

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Quote from: Paya on September 15, 2014, 03:49:12 AM

According to pro-Kiev Burkonews, Ukrainian Security service (SBU) is arresting locals in Odessa, Mykolaiv, Volnovakha and Krasnoarmisk for the alleged subversive activities and connection with the resistance movement.

Hope they arrest those Russian nazis

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Quote from: myshownow on September 15, 2014, 02:45:37 AM

Note, the financial war Russia & China are doing is "De-dollarization". Russia is getting out of the dollar system. We are witnessing here the birth of an alternative financial system not based on the imploding dollar.

The Ruble-Dollar rate is just a ready propaganda tool of the WEst but anybody well-versed on economics knows the grain from the hulls. For all its worth, that SNAPSHOT rate is fluctuating, and it could change anytime,- in fact, it would recover later down the line after every sanction round.

It's funny you keep going "Dollar, dollar, dollar!" on here. A lot of us don't use dollars (lots of Europeans here), and most of us don't even care about dollars, because we are using bitcoin. So... who cares?

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 15, 2014, 02:27:33 AM

Quote from: Rassah on September 15, 2014, 12:46:50 AM

Almost all... You know what would be great? If the ones who aren't would take their military hardware and go back to Russia where they came from

So far, the facts from the war in Donbass says that what you are posting here is BS.

Out of the 1,500 or so NAF soldiers killed so far in the War in Donbass, more than 80% were born in the Donetsk or Lugansk oblasts. Some 15% were from other regions of Ukraine, while less than 5% were foreign volunteers (from Russia, Serbia, Abkhazia.etc).

Of course. Russian troops are much more experienced in combat, and wouldn't put themselves into a position where they would be at risk. It's not their war or their country they are fighting for. At the same time, Nato has said that more than 1,000 Russian troops are in Ukraine, but since you don't believe Nato, according to various rights groups, up to 15,000 Russian soldiers have been sent to Ukraine over the past two months, and at least 200 may have died in combat there. Considering how quickly and secretly dead russian troops are sent back into russia, it wouldn't be surprising if that list you gave was very incomplete.

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Quote from: myshownow on September 15, 2014, 01:13:13 AM

1. Read about sanctions done on China after the Tienanmen massacre. Despite those sanctions,, we know what happened to China- it is now the richest country in the world
2. Of course, Sanctions can't be done now on China or the world will laugh.
3. blah blah blah, word diarhea

I didn't ask why isn't US and the rest of the world avoiding placing sanctions on China. NO ONE WANTS OR IS EVEN INTERESTED IN PLACING SANCTIONS ON CHINA. Yes, they had the Tienamen square issue, but guess qhat? China is not a lot more open and capitalist than it used to be. That's why it's doing so well economically.

So, if your statement is that USA and Europe are sanctioning Russia because they are worried that their monopolar world will be challenged by Russian, then
1. There is ALREADY a multipolar world, with USA, EU, and China. And
2. China is MUCH bigger economic threat than Russia, but not only is no one considering sanctioning it, no one even wants to, or thinks China deserves it.

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Quote from: deisik on September 15, 2014, 03:46:24 PM

Quote from: Pagan on September 15, 2014, 12:13:04 PM

the German tanks in Ukraine (VIDEO)

http://by24.org/2014/09/13/leopard_nato_tanks_arrived_in_ukraine_lvov_region_for_military_training/

The Leopard tank snapshots in the news video are actually taken from a 2013 video made in Germany, lol. Hey, Pagan, what are you gonna say, faking again?

Haha, it's on TV now... Bloody hell, Pagan seems too retarded for being able to publish fresh fakes. Cheesy

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Quote from: Pagan on September 15, 2014, 12:13:04 PM

the German tanks in Ukraine (VIDEO)

http://by24.org/2014/09/13/leopard_nato_tanks_arrived_in_ukraine_lvov_region_for_military_training/

The Leopard tank snapshots in the news video are actually taken from a 2013 video made in Germany, lol. Hey, Pagan, what are you gonna say, faking all over again?

Pagan

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EU wants to put Putin rebels on terror list

EU will Putin-Rebellen auf Terror-Liste setzen

russisch mit Panzern im ostukrainischen Lugansk

http://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/ukraine/krise-eu-will-putins-pro-russische-rebellen-auf-terrorliste-setzen-37662986.bild.html

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The second phase of the prisoner exchange happened today. NAF exchanged 73 captured members of the Ukrainian Army and neo-Nazi units for 69 of its own soldiers. The NAF rank and file is fuming, as many of the returned POWs are barely alive due to extreme torture. There is a lot of pressure on the NAF leadership to stop the prisoner exchange and to prosecute the Ukrainian POWs for war crimes.

BTW... YouTube just deleted the account of Lifenews, the most important TV station which is based in Donetsk.

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Quote from: deisik on September 15, 2014, 12:20:10 PM

Quote from: Pagan on September 15, 2014, 12:13:04 PM

the German tanks in Ukraine (VIDEO)

http://by24.org/2014/09/13/leopard_nato_tanks_arrived_in_ukraine_lvov_region_for_military_training/

A repair brigade for the Ukrainian gas pipelines has arrived... ~~Ordnung uber alles~~ The winter is coming!

Maybe practicing what they have learned in the Kursk battle

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kursk

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Quote from: Pagan on September 15, 2014, 12:13:04 PM

the German tanks in Ukraine (VIDEO)

http://by24.org/2014/09/13/leopard_nato_tanks_arrived_in_ukraine_lvov_region_for_military_training/

A repair brigade for the Ukrainian gas pipelines has arrived... ~~Ordnung uber alles~~ The winter is coming!

Pagan

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the German tanks in Ukraine (VIDEO)

http://by24.org/2014/09/13/leopard_nato_tanks_arrived_in_ukraine_lvov_region_for_military_training/

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^^^ The idiot who wrote that article in Forbes don't know a bit about how Russia's mineral extraction tax works. Rosneft was receiving very little profits from the field, after paying the extraction tax of almost $60 per barrel. The actual profits were around $1 billion to $1.5 billion per year from its Vankor operations. So valuating it at $10 billion is quite accurate.

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Quote from: Pagan on September 15, 2014, 04:44:14 AM

As The Sanctions' Noose Tightens, China Grabs Russian Energy Assets At Bargain Prices

Hi, you wearing your gown today? Wink

Forbes is another Anglo-Zionist propaganda outlet. It should be writing about the $220 trillion liabilities of America to the Americans instead so Americans can understand why 1 out of 5 American children is in poverty. It uses spin to slant news to destroy its targets, in this case, Russia, while forgetting its primary task to inform the "truth". The bankrupt West is so desperate to show that its sanctions are hurting- because it wants to show the world it can still intimidate so it can force the world to its extortionary dictates. Not a chance, the world knows it is bankrupt and imploding. Meanwhile, Russia has been growing while the insolvent EU is shrinking. The insolvent US continues to drown in its mountain of debts. Cheesy

Russia reserves $400 billion

BTW, Russia controls its own Central Bank & you can see it can but it doesn't have to print money like what the American Fed does because its coffers is still full (The US had been printing $85 billion per month at some point so it can pretend it is still rich, & it still printing).

Frankly, nobody reads the Anglo-Zionist media anymore, only propaganda mercenaries bother to do so Cheesy

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As The Sanctions' Noose Tightens, China Grabs Russian Energy Assets At Bargain Prices

A striking demonstration of Rosneft’s liquidity crisis is its decision to sell one tenth of its biggest production asset, the Vancor fields of Northern Siberia, to China’s CNPC for a miserly one billion dollars. Vancor, a developed field that requires no major investments, is worth some $100 billion (at four times annual revenue of $25 billion). Industry analysts see no reason for Rosneft to sell a major asset at ten cents on the dollar other than a liquidity crisis. http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2014/09/14/as-the-sanctions-noose-tightens-china-grabs-russian-energy-assets-at-bargain-prices/

Cool

38.0404 Price of 1 USD in RUB

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Quote from: Balthazar on September 14, 2014, 05:13:01 PM

Quote from: blablahblah on September 14, 2014, 01:49:30 PM

I see that the Russian propagandists have been given new instructions. They are no longer bothering to deny the presence of Russian troops and aggression on Ukrainian soil.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot

Yeah, I agree that ignorance could be painful.

You deleted the second half of my post from your quote. Accident??

Quote from: blablahblah on September 14, 2014, 01:49:30 PM

The new tactic is intimidation.

You are simply building a straw man, which also serves as a red herring to distract attention.

Anyone can read from the last couple of pages:

Quote from: myshownow on September 14, 2014, 07:51:49 AM

LOL, so I see you got your article from a future Russian. I actually think, it's time that Russia should get serious and get the Baltics again. I know it will be a walkover , no big challenge,

Quote from: myshownow on September 14, 2014, 09:30:21 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 14, 2014, 08:32:50 AM

The NAF is now leveling every square inch of the Donetsk Airport using Grad rockets. Earlier, there were artillery attacks towards the Donetsk city residential areas from the Airport. Casualties were reported in that attack, and the NAF seems to be pretty pissed off with it. Eyewitness reports indicate that the whole area is burning as a result of the attack.

Very good... I think they should bomb Mariupol too...

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Russia has a stronger military than China...

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I think, Russians give too much leeway to the games of the bankrupt EU states. Remember, these countries are past their prime, they are on their way out, so it's time to introduce new methods of doing things. It may not tally with their old script, but their script is already outdated, time to introduce other ways of doing things...

Is it just a coincidence that myshownow's aggressive stance and barrage of distractions came shortly after Pagan posted an article, which exposed the Russian war methods? There's no need to thank me for explaining your dirty tricks. I'm sure you would like your readers to be well-informed about how red herrings are a useful propaganda technique.

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According to pro-Kiev Burkonews, Ukrainian Security service (SBU) is arresting locals in Odessa, Mykolaiv, Volnovakha and Krasnoarmisk for the alleged subversive activities and connection with the resistance movement.

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Quote from: Balthazar on September 15, 2014, 03:25:59 AM

Agitation near the Arbitration Court of Moscow City:

Yeah, the compromises somewhat suck but it's obvious that at least, there was the start of give and take. I can guess the long-term script, however. So it's enough at this point in time.

I still prefer Novorussia, from Kharkov to Odessa though. So it doesn't mean it's time to be complacent now. ..

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