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Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 168. (Read 734725 times)

legendary
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September 07, 2014, 07:02:57 PM
Sorry guys, but I think that any reasonable person won't dedicate so many time to think about Putin's existance. I remember his name only during reading this thread... Rassaah's messages especially. Cheesy However, it's interesting to see that Rassaah & co have fallen in so deep love with Putin. It's fine that they have some kind of goal in life.
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September 07, 2014, 06:58:57 PM

Why do you guys keep saying that they were cheated by Putin?



Bravo, LOL!! Hey, so you are still at your tacky game of pretending you know something. Rassaah is the famous troll who loves to enter debates, but only to be caught not comprehending what he's reading. Typical low IQ who fools himself he's not through his mouth, not through his brains. What a waste of time but I can't pass this chance to congratulate him he's still alive. I thought he jumped from a building due to sheer stupidityand humiliation.


Analyze again what you wrote and you'll see your IQ hasn't improved yet. Grin Grin Grin


legendary
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September 07, 2014, 06:03:18 PM
#Strelkov: "About events happening in #Novorossiya wont comment.To put it mildly Im not happy"

http://vk.com/wall-57424472_16925

Whatever is going on, it is clear that Strelkov is being undermined. The ceasefire benefits only the Ukies, not the NAF (who were winning..)

Not good for Novorossiya.

I feel bad for Strelkov. People like Strelkov and Bezler, who worked extremely hard for the past many months against overwhelming odds were cheated by Putin in the end. When the conflict began, the NAF were outnumbered by the Kiev forces by a factor of one to six. Right now, they are almost equal in the strength of armed forces, with NAF holding the advantage due to its technical superiority. But unfortunately, for Putin the bank accounts of his friends is more important than ensuring the basic fundamental rights of 7 million Donbass citizens.

you better make your conclusions once the events lose any relevance to current political environment in future. give some time and think again once the picture is clearer. we are all watching a grand scale theatre play - where transition of world power is fully justified and understood by all members of this planet. all need to know what we have to know, you know..
legendary
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September 07, 2014, 05:59:55 PM
I feel bad for Strelkov. People like Strelkov and Bezler, who worked extremely hard for the past many months against overwhelming odds were cheated by Putin in the end.

Why do you guys keep saying that they were cheated by Putin? Earlier you were saying that Putin was not sending Russian troops into Ukraine,  that he was not sending in Russian tanks and altilery, that Putin has nothing to do with what's going on in Ukraine, and that its stupid to make demands on Putin and sanction Russia if he is not involved in any way. How can he both be not involved, and cheat them?
legendary
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September 07, 2014, 05:39:30 PM
But yes, rebels must be careful and keep their arms ready. Because warmongering Ukrainian nationalist gangs, encouraged and sponsored by certain shady (or perhaps not so shady) circles from the West, should not be trusted. They want war.

There aren't any warmongering nationalist gangg. There are very few nationalists in Ukraine that were visible during the Maidan protests, but they had very little support,and their party got less than 1% of the votes (There are MANY more nationalists and neonazis in Russia though). The first "warmongering gangs" appeared when Russia started putting out a whole bunch of scaremongering propaganda, claiming that Kiev is taken over by fascists who want to ban Russian language and kill all Russians (which was of course not true in any way), so the gangs were actually separatists, not Ukrainians, who were nothing more than hooligans with guns, going around taking over government buildings, and shooting anyone who they thought was a right sector supporter. Ukraine sent in troops to put a stop to their mayhem and bring peace back, as a police force,nothing more. No one in Ukraine wanted a war, not with eastern ukraine and not with russian, ESPECIALLY while the government is weak and the country is still unstable. The idea that there are warmongering Ukrainian gangs, or especially that they are being provoked and supported by government, sounds ridiculous in light of that situation.

That said,there probably are some nationalists in those areas who would be unhappy if after all this "Russia was never there, and was not responsible" fighting and killing that has been going on, if Russia were tomroll in their factories and start pumping gas from the lands they supposedly didn't invade and didn't conquer.
legendary
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September 07, 2014, 05:12:02 PM
News coming in that Ukrainian tanks have fired on NAF positions near the village of Faschevka (East of Debaltsevo). Seems like this ceasefire won't last for much longer. BTW... even Poroshenko doubts that it will last. Check this:

http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i

Also, there is news that a convoy from Battalion Aidar was ambushed near Schastye. The battalion commander, S Melnychuk was reportedly killed in the attack.

How can Poroshenko guarantee a ceasefire if the troops fighting the separatists are all volunteers, and are not there? Why does he answer for them any more than Putin answers for the Russian volunteers?
And before you say, "But it's the Ukrainian army!" do remember that a lot of Ukrainians are fighting against the Russian invasion as guerillas, too.
legendary
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September 07, 2014, 05:07:55 PM

World War 2 had been over for decades, so why did the Russian soldiers still refuse to go home?



This is a good question, why US continues to occupy Europe over seven decades (rhetorical question)

Because US is imperialist scum that wants to impose its democracy and capitalism on other nations. OK, your turn guys. Why did Russian troops refuse to go home? Wink
legendary
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September 07, 2014, 05:04:22 PM
Kind of like how when rebels declare a safety corridor, they end up killing hundreds of people passing through it, including Russian POWs?

The Kiev forces tried to act like they are over-smart and they got their asses kicked. The rebels were very clear when they said that the soldiers are not allowed to take any of their heavy weaponry on their route to Russia. But the over-confident Kiev forces took all their APCs and tanks and tried to storm their way to the Russian checkpoint. Got scorched by the rebel artillery barrage.

You say that as if that's a good reason to kill hundreds of people, including your own.

I'm kind of disappointed to see that Rassah is so biased.

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For a major city with a population of 2.78 million, to have just their number of kids double suggests that there may be as many as a million reffugies in that city alone.
Can you imagine a city whose population increased by more than a third in a couple of months? It would be a humanitarian crisis.

Maybe they are having a crisis and we haven't heard about it yet. Or maybe they will start when the food starts running out.

And sure, I'm biased. I have a good reason to be, which is almost 100 years of family and personal experience living under Rissian propaganda machine. You'd thing that it changed after the fall of USSR, but considering the lies Russia got caught in just since April, it would seem no.
legendary
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September 07, 2014, 04:40:45 PM
so much trolls hysteria, apparently the situation with the Ukrainian troops bad as ever  Wink
legendary
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September 07, 2014, 04:24:00 PM
lol !!! high IQ of the Kremlin gives
Said by somebody who have less than 200 words in the dictionary.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8587514
legendary
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September 07, 2014, 04:07:16 PM
lol !!! high IQ of the Kremlin gives

they're better left alone in the cold and ignored for good

do you happen to know that Kremlin keeps a specially staffed departments who troll in the comments of leading newspapers, public forums etc etc?

they're the modern version of a soviet newspaper. don't read it at all if you want to be sane, safe and sound.
you should also know that putin is referred only as khuilo (a dickhead) in Ukraine.

Did you know that the NSA monitors and stores every single electronic communication on the planet?

Did you know that Israel and USA no doubt has their own paid shill program?

Hypocrite.

Such Russiaphobia is pathetic.

fuck you. at least they don't invade your country with tanks and heavy artillery. let them store whatever, if they don't kill you. this is the least of all evils.

Yeah-yeah, they certainly don't invade countries that can fight back. But let's not forget Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq (just to name a few)...
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September 07, 2014, 03:15:55 PM
ruSSian press: it's time to kill all Ukrainians anywhere



https://www.facebook.com/GraniRu/photos/a.363605123677352.76619.157033337667866/752912231413304/?type=1


Russia Today: very fun GRAD rockets launch - to Ukrainians

newbie
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September 07, 2014, 02:51:52 PM
Apparently, fresh delivery of pro-Kiev newbie trolls has just arrived  Grin
old troll from the Kremlin spoke

russian trolls are certified assholes, everybody knows
legendary
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September 07, 2014, 01:51:53 PM
Apparently, fresh delivery of pro-Kiev newbie trolls has just arrived  Cheesy

Yep, the galician tradesman task-force have arrived Smiley.
newbie
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September 07, 2014, 01:38:33 PM
Apparently, fresh delivery of pro-Kiev newbie trolls has just arrived  Cheesy
so you're thinking that you can do anything, think like this anymore ...
newbie
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September 07, 2014, 01:34:31 PM
Apparently, fresh delivery of pro-Kiev newbie trolls has just arrived  Grin
old troll from the Kremlin spoke
sr. member
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September 07, 2014, 01:29:20 PM
Apparently, fresh delivery of pro-Kiev newbie trolls has just arrived  Cheesy
newbie
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September 07, 2014, 01:26:56 PM
lol !!! high IQ of the Kremlin gives

they're better left alone in the cold and ignored for good

do you happen to know that Kremlin keeps a specially staffed departments who troll in the comments of leading newspapers, public forums etc etc?

they're the modern version of a soviet newspaper. don't read it at all if you want to be sane, safe and sound.
you should also know that putin is referred only as khuilo (a dickhead) in Ukraine.

Did you know that the NSA monitors and stores every single electronic communication on the planet?

Did you know that Israel and USA no doubt has their own paid shill program?

Hypocrite.

Such Russiaphobia is pathetic.

fuck you. at least they don't invade your country with tanks and heavy artillery. let them store whatever, if they don't kill you. this is the least of all evils.
Russian lie in their blood, we know that for years, for centuries, it is rubbish
newbie
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September 07, 2014, 01:18:19 PM
lol !!! high IQ of the Kremlin gives

they're better left alone in the cold and ignored for good

do you happen to know that Kremlin keeps a specially staffed departments who troll in the comments of leading newspapers, public forums etc etc?

they're the modern version of a soviet newspaper. don't read it at all if you want to be sane, safe and sound.
you should also know that putin is referred only as khuilo (a dickhead) in Ukraine.

Did you know that the NSA monitors and stores every single electronic communication on the planet?

Did you know that Israel and USA no doubt has their own paid shill program?

Hypocrite.

Such Russiaphobia is pathetic.

fuck you. at least they don't invade your country with tanks and heavy artillery. let them store whatever, if they don't kill you. this is the least of all evils.
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