Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 172.

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Quote from: chopstick on September 03, 2014, 02:29:34 PM

Whenever they declare a "ceasefire" it's obviously just for show. Meanwhile, shelling and combat continue.

Kind of like how when rebels declare a safety corridor, they end up killing hundreds of people passing through it, including Russian POWs?

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Quote from: Pagan on September 04, 2014, 04:20:02 PM

Near Mariupol the 9th battalion of a brigade of the Russian army from Nizhni-Novgorod was destroyed completely by the Ukrainian air force. No wonder Putin wants a no-fly-agreement as part of the truce.

http://rusjev.net/2014/09/04/pod-mariupolem-segodnya-sgorela-rossiyskaya-tankovaya-rota/

Lol, it seems that you've been caught pushing fake info once again. Below are the two photos from the site with full resolution:

These are obviously not even same locations. Note the burning Russian military stuff is in front of a row of trees with houses, while the burning Ukrainian truck is in front of a forest without houses. There is more than just one field in that country, you know.

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Quote from: Balthazar on September 05, 2014, 09:55:02 PM

Unfortunately, she's a bad girl and works for Kolomoyski. It seems that he ordered her to say the truth in order to make Porky's position weaker.

But you're right, she's interesting person.

LOL, is that so? Then she must be a prostitute too, only higher price...

But really, Kiev is tops in prostitution. The best to get one is near the gates of that college near that park in Shevchenko prospekt... no need to go to the clubs or escort agencies... the students are really kind and cheap...

BTW, after the Maidan, the girls must be way cheaper now. The economy is imploding. More than a couple of years ago, I got mine free but my 60-ear old uncle got his for $15 & they looked like a teenage version of the MP....

COuld that be the real reason for the Maidan, to drive down the price more because the Galicians don't have $15? Grin

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Unfortunately, she's a bad girl and works for Kolomoyski. It seems that he ordered her to say the truth in order to make Porky's position weaker.

But you're right, she's interesting person.

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Quote from: Paya on September 05, 2014, 07:49:22 PM

After the steady rise of enthusiasm for war in Ukraine voter polls through the summer, Ukrainian politicians in favour of the military campaign against Donetsk, Lugansk, and Russia, have suffered a dramatic loss of support across the country.

This was reported in Kiev on September 3. In the first countrywide poll taken since the Ukrainian Army took heavy casualties and retreated from the Donbass at the end of August, voters who had supported the pro-war Radical Party, led by Oleg Lyashko, have dropped from 22.2% to 13.1%. Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk’s bloc, Patriots of Ukraine, which includes the police and national guard minister, Arsen Avakov, has collapsed from more than 9% to 3.7%. Yulia Timoshenko’s Fatherland party has fallen below her former proteges to 3.5%. The Svoboda (“Freedom”) party of Oleg Tyagnibok, the candidate of the US Embassy in Kiev and the State Department, and Pravy Sektor (“Right Sector”), the party behind the national guard formations fighting in the east, have lost virtually all their support outside the far western regions of the country; across the Ukraine they are now polling just 2.5% and 1%.

(source: businessinsider.com)

So, after the military humiliation of the criminal Ukrainian junta, they are dead politically. In essence, this is over. Except for the insanity which usually eats the losers in every delusion, and insane people are out of touch with reality.... but it's expected they will be defeated anyway because insane people eventually destroy themselves. WE just need to push them to the cliff.

But yes, we are dealing with insane people: a group of people who have been losers throughout their history but suddenly arrogantly wanting to be the controller, and a bankrupt sponsor struggling to stave off its inevitable collapse by creating wars and destruction but ended up destroying itself anyway.

But it's clear, we are on track in building a new world. Thanks for the wisdom and courage of the Russians.

I also congratulate the people living in what was called the Ukraine, you will soon be free...

My biggest congratulations to the Novorussians...

I have to repost this, insane people need this to get in touch with reality...

WE REPLACED A GOVERNMENT OF THIEVES WITH A GOVERNMENT OF KILLER OLIGARCHS"

Victoria Shilova, Ukrainian MP

https://www.youtube.com/embed/5veOECY0tKQ

besides, she is sexy.... Ukraine is known as the cheap prostitute capital of the world, but not all the sexy girls lack the depth and intelligence to help change the world for the better...

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After the steady rise of enthusiasm for war in Ukraine voter polls through the summer, Ukrainian politicians in favour of the military campaign against Donetsk, Lugansk, and Russia, have suffered a dramatic loss of support across the country.

This was reported in Kiev on September 3. In the first countrywide poll taken since the Ukrainian Army took heavy casualties and retreated from the Donbass at the end of August, voters who had supported the pro-war Radical Party, led by Oleg Lyashko, have dropped from 22.2% to 13.1%. Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk’s bloc, Patriots of Ukraine, which includes the police and national guard minister, Arsen Avakov, has collapsed from more than 9% to 3.7%. Yulia Timoshenko’s Fatherland party has fallen below her former proteges to 3.5%. The Svoboda (“Freedom”) party of Oleg Tyagnibok, the candidate of the US Embassy in Kiev and the State Department, and Pravy Sektor (“Right Sector”), the party behind the national guard formations fighting in the east, have lost virtually all their support outside the far western regions of the country; across the Ukraine they are now polling just 2.5% and 1%.

(source: businessinsider.com)

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Reports of fighting still ongoing.

Ceasefire is merely an attempt by Ukies to regroup their forces for next assault.

They don't want to give up east ukraine, because then the whole coup is pointless. East Ukraine is most resource rich region. West Ukraine without the eastern region, will be very poor.

Porky and Obummer have both even stated they will not recognize the annexation of Crimea, and Porky said they would take it back by force (lol)

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A truce has begun.

Hopefully, representatives of Ukraine and Novorossiya will be able to find sustainable diplomatic solution and put an end to this bloody civil war. Rebels managed to defeat Ukrainian attacks and to introduce themselves as legal party in all future negotiations, which is by far the most important achievement and something they have been fighting for all this time. No one should try to ignore the opinion of the people in Donbass any more. And if there were some doubts among them at the beginning, I am pretty sure that none are left. Masks have fallen off - in the past months everyone could clearly see the ugly face of the Kiev's concept of democracy.

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Quote from: Pagan on September 04, 2014, 04:20:02 PM

Near Mariupol the 9th battalion of a brigade of the Russian army from Nizhni-Novgorod was destroyed completely by the Ukrainian air force. No wonder Putin wants a no-fly-agreement as part of the truce.

http://rusjev.net/2014/09/04/pod-mariupolem-segodnya-sgorela-rossiyskaya-tankovaya-rota/

Lol, it seems that you've been caught pushing fake info once again. Below are the two photos from the site with full resolution:

Everyone can see a white strip on the door of the right truck below the bulletproof vest, and I hope everyone knows what it means. And here is a snapshot from the video showing the same truck from a Ukrainian army convoy which was destroyed yesterday

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Quote from: Nemo1024 on September 05, 2014, 07:20:46 AM

Well, back on ignore with you, I guess...

What difference does it make when you ignore my questions regardless:

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Do you also deny that the Russians continued to occupy places like Poland and East Germany with military bases as recently as the 1980s?

Well, do you deny it? Do ya?

Who were the military bases defending? If not Moscow, then who? Warsaw?

World War 2 had been over for decades, so why did the Russian soldiers still refuse to go home?

And what kind of Voodoo black magic occurred in the 1989 era that former USSR satellite states, which truly loved Moscow, somehow turned to the evil West and everyone had their brains suddenly washed?

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A warlord of the pen, maybe. They do say that pen is mightier than a sword. Thanks for a laugh. Though I don't exactly see where I was posturing as a warlord... Well, back on ignore with you, I guess...

No, you are an ignorant cretin with an internet connection, who embarrasses your own country on a daily basis. Congratulations!

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Quote from: ostrij on September 05, 2014, 09:40:09 AM

With this WEB page Russian people tries to find their sons, fathers and brothers - http://www.mamasoldata.org/
I didn't count, but there are about 100 names and surnames of Russian soldiers lost or dead in Ukraine Sad

There are many volunteers from a lot of countries fighting both for Donetsk and Lugansk on the one hand and Kiev on the other. There is even a small group of men from France in the militia, but this doesn't make France (as a state) a side in this conflict. Mind this...

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With this WEB page Russian people tries to find their sons, fathers and brothers - http://www.mamasoldata.org/
I didn't count, but there are about 100 names and surnames of Russian soldiers lost or dead in Ukraine Sad

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Nice!

‘Most convincing evidence’: Russian embassy trolls NATO with toy tanks
http://rt.com/news/185148-russian-embassy-nato-trolling/

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Some of Russia’s diplomats have joined a digital diplomacy row as they trolled NATO by “leaking” on Twitter the alliance’s “most convincing evidence” of Russian troops’ alleged presence in Ukraine.

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Donetsk morgue is overrun with civilian casualties. Ukrainian criminal government is continuing with deliberate targeting of residential areas. What they don't realize is that with every shell they throw into the city, determination of the people to resist and fight back becomes only stronger:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zL0DASemXo

In other news: President of the Czech Republic Milos Zeman has stated that he takes the statement of the head of the Foreign Affairs Ministry of Russia Sergey Lavrov seriously, that there are no Russian troops in Ukraine. "First of all we should name what is happening in the right words, and admit that a civil war is going on. It is a civil war between two groups of Ukrainian citizens", Zeman added.

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Quote from: blablahblah on September 05, 2014, 07:07:04 AM

I didn't realise you were old enough to remember the Nazis. Shouldn't you be wise enough to stop being such a warrior at your ripe old age of 80-something? You brave warlord!

I don't remember Nazis, but unlike someone in Ukraine and elsewhere in the world, I didn't unlearn to read and listen. You, on the other hand is not wise enough to even start reading history or listening to people who went through the hell that was WWII.

"You brave warlord!" Grin

A warlord of the pen, maybe. They do say that pen is mightier than a sword. Thanks for a laugh. Though I don't exactly see where I was posturing as a warlord... Well, back on ignore with you, I guess...

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Quote from: Nemo1024 on September 05, 2014, 05:55:59 AM

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Quote from: blablahblah on September 05, 2014, 06:19:14 AM

Yes, yes. Now that the Russians have won, they can proudly withdraw their victorious forces and stop killing people.

It's hard to withdraw something that wasn't there to begin with. Ukrainian army can stop killing people of Ukraine/Novorossia because said people managed to defend themselves.

blablahblah, you still remind me of those Germans in 1940s that screamed about bad Russians who would not stop defending themselves in the face of glorious German army.

I didn't realise you were old enough to remember the Nazis. Shouldn't you be wise enough to stop being such a warrior at your ripe old age of 80-something? You brave warlord!

Do you also deny that the Russians continued to occupy places like Poland and East Germany with military bases as recently as the 1980s? Europe should be thankful for the Russian generosity in their efforts. Oh sorry, that was the USSR, a different ethnicity! Of course, the Russians hold zero responsibility for the actions of their cruel Communist oppressors. Wink

I wonder when the Russians will change their name again to something like "the United Federation of Eurasian Democratic People's Republics". Of course, this new species will also claim zero responsibility for the past such as Putin or any other former Russian oppressors.

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It's hard to withdraw something that wasn't there to begin with.

Don't they at least want their white trucks back?

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Yes, yes. Now that the Russians have won, they can proudly withdraw their victorious forces and stop killing people.

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Quote from: myshownow on September 04, 2014, 08:36:42 PM

Btw, I thank the Ukraine fiasco. I was learning Russian language half-heartedly before but this drama forced me to really read Russian language Cyrillic script to keep abreast with the news. Good news, I can understand 95% of the time without using the dictionary. Thank you, Novorussians! I just added Russian to my fluentlanguage list: I also speak French, Italian, Spanish, German, Dutch and Hungarian. By learning Russian, I discovered I can also read Bulgarian, though without the declensions. The Slavic languages are close: I can understand half of what the Serbian, Croatian (actually similar to Serbian)and Polish are saying.I don't bother with the Ukrainian much, it's about another reality altogether.

Well done! Moлoдчинa!

Yes, knowing Russian you can read Bulgarian for about 80%, but beware of several words that are written the same, but which meaning diverged, like нaпpaвo, which means "to the right" in Russian and "strait ahead" in Bulgarian. Grin

As you noticed, other Slavic languages (with the exception of Latvian, which diverged quite a lot) are close between each other to be understood with a little effort and careful thinking about the words' roots.

Modern Ukrainian is an artificial construct, which is about 50% Polish, 25% German and 25% Russian. This hybrid is mainly pushed from Galicia, while central Ukraine speaks "Surszhik", which is less diluted. It is interesting to note in this regards the thoughts expressed by the last hetman of Ukraine - Pavel Petrovich Skoropadskij, of which Ukrainians do not learn in schools as he does not align with the ideals of Bandera:

Quote from: blablahblah on September 05, 2014, 06:19:14 AM

Yes, yes. Now that the Russians have won, they can proudly withdraw their victorious forces and stop killing people.

It's hard to withdraw something that wasn't there to begin with. Ukrainian army can stop killing people of Ukraine/Novorossia because said people managed to defend themselves.

blablahblah, you still remind me of those Germans in 1940s that screamed about bad Russians who would not stop defending themselves in the face of glorious German army.

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Quote from: Pagan on September 04, 2014, 04:27:08 PM

^ proof of ruSSian war crimes against civilian Ukrainians

As you should be able to notice if you were not totally blinded by Kiev's propaganda, rockets are falling outside of the city blocks. Unlike Ukrainian forces, rebels are not aiming residential areas.

Battle for Mariupol is underway - rebels have initiative but it's still too early to tell who is winning. On the northern front, there are some signs that the oligarch batallions might be retreating from Debaltseve.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 04, 2014, 01:15:32 AM

Very important news. The rebels have captured a Su-25 bomber jet from the Ukrainian Air Force. Currently they are using the jet for trial flights. Soon we can expect them to be used against the Kiev forces trapped in various pockets (Amvroseevka, Dokuchaevsk, Mariupol.etc). At the same time, the news from Kiev is that they don't have many jets left after the rebels shot down dozens of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFYY9V1ZNWA

Very good. Now they should bomb direct to Dnipropetrovsk.

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