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Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 61. (Read 734937 times)

legendary
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February 23, 2015, 03:18:38 PM
Forget to add ... because words is only words ...

video is perhaps better to show again ...there is no troop move with russian weapons !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2_cUnVwhdU&feature=youtu.be

.... time that this war stop !
legendary
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February 23, 2015, 03:16:18 PM
https://twitter.com/Conflict_Report/status/569744948196716544

True ? or Not ... let's see up to where the lie of russia will go ...

Quote from: lielielie
#News
Another 350 troops, 6 tanks, 14 IFV, 15 transport units transferred to #Bezimenne.
Assault on #Shyrokyne intensifying. - UR/Tymchuck

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February 23, 2015, 12:07:28 PM
Well, I guess Catherine (Sophie Friederike Auguste von Anhalt-Zerbst-Dornburg) named it after herself actually.
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February 23, 2015, 12:05:58 PM
So, I told him it was named the city of Augusta after Catherine the Great.
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February 23, 2015, 12:03:09 PM
BTW, I met an expert on Russian history last year after Crimea went back to Russia and to my surprise he didn´t have a clue about what Sevastopol means. Even more surprisingly he didn´t know that it was named after its founder - a VERY famous personality  Grin

If I'm not confusing things, there was an ancient Greek city with the same name.

Yeah, I was right.
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February 23, 2015, 12:01:32 PM
BTW, I met an expert on Russian history last year after Crimea went back to Russia and to my surprise he didn´t have a clue about what Sevastopol means. Even more surprisingly he didn´t know that it was named after its founder - a VERY famous personality  Grin
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February 23, 2015, 11:54:09 AM
I don´t really need to translate it. Malorussia sounds good as it is.

It came up because of Novo which as I mentioned is quite inappropriate.

Never use this word in a Russian speaking community. It sounds really terrible to a Russian ear. There is a Russian female name, Marusya, which is considered obsolete and rather rustic in the Russian language and sounds similar. Balthazar would confirm.

it has been sounding terrible to their ears for a thousand years so I doubt little old me is going to offend them much.

The word first appeared in a letter from a ruler of Galicia to the Grand Master of the Teutonic Knights in 1335 (as "Rusiæ Minoris").

Yeah, it´s from Greek so the original meaning is Russia Minor.

-pol in so many city names is from polis. Mariupol, Sevastopol, Tiraspol etc.
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February 23, 2015, 11:52:43 AM
I don´t really need to translate it. Malorussia sounds good as it is.

It came up because of Novo which as I mentioned is quite inappropriate.

Never use this word in a Russian speaking community. It sounds really terrible to a Russian ear. There is a Russian female name, Marusya, which is considered obsolete and rather rustic in the Russian language and sounds similar. Balthazar would confirm.

it has been sounding terrible to their ears for a thousand years so I doubt little old me is going to offend them much.

The name first appeared in a letter from a ruler of Galicia to the Grand Master of the Teutonic Knights in 1335 (as "Rusiæ Minoris", by the way).
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February 23, 2015, 11:30:27 AM
I don´t really need to translate it. Malorussia sounds good as it is.

It came up because of Novo which as I mentioned is quite inappropriate.

Never use this word in a Russian speaking community. It sounds really terrible to a Russian ear. There is a Russian female name, Marusya, which is considered obsolete and rather rustic in the Russian language and sounds similar. Balthazar would confirm.

it has been sounding terrible to their ears for a thousand years so I doubt little old me is going to offend them much.
legendary
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February 23, 2015, 11:27:04 AM
Nanorussia. Approved by Anatoly Chubais Cheesy
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February 23, 2015, 11:25:20 AM
I don´t really need to translate it. Malorussia sounds good as it is.

It came up because of Novo which as I mentioned is quite inappropriate.

Never use this word in a Russian speaking community. It sounds really terrible to a Russian ear. There is a Russian female name, Marusya, which is considered obsolete and rather rustic in the Russian language, and sounds similar. Balthazar would confirm.
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February 23, 2015, 11:18:53 AM
I don´t really need to translate it. Malorussia sounds good as it is.

It came up because of Novo which as I mentioned is quite inappropriate.
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February 23, 2015, 11:13:17 AM
And speaking of Novorossia, That of course is completely a misnomer considering the deep and old Russian historical roots that lie in what is presently supposed to be Ukrainian territory. Little Russia is much better.

Little Russia can sound either humiliating or diminutive, depending on context. Is English your mother tongue?

Well, NOW you know that Malorussia means Little Russia, which is the reason I mentioned it. Thought people paid better attention.

I'd rather say Lesser Russia, thus getting rid of harmful connotations.

Or another translation that I prefer is: Russia Minor.

Sounds good, like Asia Minor!
legendary
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February 23, 2015, 11:11:59 AM
And speaking of Novorossia, That of course is completely a misnomer considering the deep and old Russian historical roots that lie in what is presently supposed to be Ukrainian territory. Little Russia is much better.

Little Russia can sound either humiliating or diminutive, depending on context. Is English your mother tongue?

Well, NOW you know that Malorussia means Little Russia, which is the reason I mentioned it. Thought people paid better attention.

I'd rather say Lesser Russia, thus getting rid of harmful connotations.

Or another translation that I prefer is: Russia Minor.
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February 23, 2015, 11:08:09 AM
And speaking of Novorossia, That of course is completely a misnomer considering the deep and old Russian historical roots that lie in what is presently supposed to be Ukrainian territory. Little Russia is much better.

Little Russia can sound either humiliating or diminutive, depending on context. Is English your mother tongue?

Well, NOW you know that Malorussia means Little Russia, which is the reason I mentioned it. Thought people paid better attention.

I'd rather say Lesser Russia, thus getting rid of harmful connotations.
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February 23, 2015, 10:59:24 AM
And speaking of Novorossia, That of course is completely a misnomer considering the deep and old Russian historical roots that lie in what is presently supposed to be Ukrainian territory. Little Russia is much better.

Little Russia can sound either humiliating or diminutive, depending on context. Is English your mother tongue?

Well, NOW you know that Malorussia means Little Russia, which is the reason I mentioned it. Thought people paid better attention.
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February 23, 2015, 10:55:30 AM
And speaking of Novorossia, That of course is completely a misnomer considering the deep and old Russian historical roots that lie in what is presently supposed to be Ukrainian territory. Little Russia is much better.

Little Russia can sound either humiliating or diminutive, depending on context. Is English your mother tongue?
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February 23, 2015, 09:12:56 AM
And speaking of Novorossia, That of course is completely a misnomer considering the deep and old Russian historical roots that lie in what is presently supposed to be Ukrainian territory. Little Russia is much better.
legendary
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February 23, 2015, 08:57:11 AM
A year since the coup: Yanukovich interviewed by Russia 1

http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/02/a-year-since-coup-yanukovich.html

He pretty much nails it with the following:

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I understood my responsibility very well. In essence, when I was illegally removed from power, adopting a decision in the parliament, while I was on the territory of Ukraine, they voted on a law to remove the president from power. At that time I was on the way from Donetsk to Crimea. All the following steps of the current authorities were directed at achieving the triumph of Maidan on those territories, were no one had accepted the Maidan. This was the territory of South-Eastern Ukraine. To impose a certain [Bandera - tr.] lifestyle on the people, cancelling the law on languages - all of this provoked a defensive reaction and people demanded a reform of self-government. They were immediately given the mark of "separatists". Then people had risen against the representatives of radical nationalistic so-called battalion coming to those territories.

In fact, Yanukovich has got what he deserved in the end. He had been in power for over 3 years and he didn't make Russian a second state language despite his own presidential campaign promises. And now he dares to talk about Maidan "cancelling the law on languages"... What a hypocrite!

You are, of course, right. The undoing of Yanukovich came from him trying to seat on two chairs at the same time. Lukashenko does it too, but is far cleverer than Yanukovich and does not push his luck too far.

Another of his big mistakes was having Poroshenko as his Finance Minister and not doing anything while the economy if Ukraine was sabotaged.

The only positive thing that can be said for Yanukovich is that he tried to avert the bloodshed and went to a compromise and refused to use force on Maidan. Alas, in hindsight, he should have used force.

By the way, about language... Poroshenko is still on his Crimean gambit, solemnly promising to return Crimea into Ukrainian occupation, promising rights to the indigenous population (somehow I doubt he is meaning Russians) and the rights of languages (Crimean Republic now finally has 3 official languages - the only thing Poroshenko can do, is to take away these rights)
http://www.forbes.ru/news/281025-poroshenko-poobeshchal-vernut-krym-ukraine

You know, when i hear place names in this part of the world in the news I immediately try to connect them to what I know about world war 2. Donetsk, no problem, but Lugansk. Somehow that didn´t seem to ring a bell at first until I remembered that it was called Voroshilovgrad at the time after Kliment Voroshilov (of the ill-fated Finland command). Great lackey of Stalin though. And much more successful as a politician than military commander.

More about names: Dniepropetrovsk until 1802 was called Novorossijsk, and before that - Ekaterinoslav (translated: "Praising Ekaterina", referring to Russian Empress, Catherine the Great).  Wink
Many towns in the are have light names, that sounded like a bitter joke in conjunction with war reports. Take, for example, the town Schastje, which means "happiness"; Druzhkovka - "friendly".
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February 23, 2015, 08:28:46 AM
Clearly the guy is losing it.

Poroshenko laughs during Maidan prayers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq3uA2NpI-0

Well, small wonder. His "military" just got its butt badly whacked as usual. And he has like thirty private militias to contend with, some of whom are under the tentative control of his regime and some totally outside of it. Some are funded by oligarchs opposing the regime others are run by nazi screwballs waiting to carve out a fiefdom for themselves in the ruins of Ukraine. And the mob is fast losing interest in this mess that it helped create.

The mob never ever takes any responsibility for the clusterfucks it creates so when Russia loses patience over this  mess and a threat to its national security in its own back yard - all hell will break loose. I guess,
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