Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 95. (Read 734937 times)

10th humanitarian convoy went to Novorossia today. Most of the trucks went to Lugansk, where the situation is the worst. 43 truck carried equipment for reconstruction of power lines and transformer stations that were destroyed by the shelling.

In the meantime the seize-fire seems to be working - for the 4th day with no violations. Today, Donetsk Republican Army allowed a Ukrainian military convoy to pass to Donetsk airport transporting food and rotating 50 unarmed Ukrainian soldiers. Motorola and the Ukrainian commander had a brief talk, observed by press (Life News) and OSCE.

http://lenta.ru/news/2014/12/12/aiport/

It all would be well if USA were not hell bent on escalation of the conflict, even in the face of this fragile prospect for peace, with their law allowing sending of military equipment to Ukraine.

http://lenta.ru/news/2014/12/12/mid/

Who cares how much one fiat currency is cost relative to another? We use crypto.

Oh, you really like him. Don't you?
I saw a lot of homosexuals who really like Putin a lot.

1 US Dollar equals
55.99 Russian Ruble

1 Euro equals
69.40 Russian Ruble

Nah. Fuck Poontang and his Gazprom Mafia, and their "unpaid" supporters. Their entire country relies on fuel exports, which they extract for free, to pay for their entire arrogant system. It's quite sad. Their elites will probably be OK, while millions of poor Russians starve again. They blame the EU and the US for everything anyway, so what difference does it make if OPEC twists the knife with a price war?

Bring on $40 oil. Or how about $20?

Unless Russian oil and gas somehow runs out, their culture has an Arabic future. Putin is a failure for being unable to maintain Russia's cultural roots outside of fighting stupid wars. Science? Technology? Music and the Arts? Forget it. Why bother doing anything yourself when you can just BUY IT WITH GAS?

Donetsk airport as asked Russia in helping to investigate cases of theft of equipment from the airport and to temporarily provide work to Donetsk airport's personnel in Russia.

http://www.vz.ru/news/2014/12/11/719980.html

Inflatable tanks - nothing new.

Deception has always been an integral part of warfare.

A rubber Sherman from WW2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9-u89y0DO0

The Soviet-Georgian war was basically a continuation of the 1917 revolution (coup d'etat) that overthrew the government of Russia, continuation of the fight between Mensheviks and Bolsheviks for power. I don't see you complaining about the Western intervention into Russia during that time. Before the coup d'etat of 1917, Georgia was part of Russian Empire, which it entered on its own request seeking protection from Persia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_%28country%29#Georgia_in_the_Russian_Empire

When you write about the Soviet era, speak of Soviet army and not about "Russians" as is the want of the Western propaganda. So the "Soviet invasion of anything" is basically an invasion of the said "anything" (depending on the year) by Lithuania, Belarus, Estonia, Moldova, Georgia, Russia, Uzbekistan, Ukraine, and the remaining of the 15 republics. You need to remember that RSFSR (that's how Russia was called back then) had little say in the running of USSR. The majority of the Soviet leaders and the members of polit-bureaux were from other republics than Russia. After Stalin's (Georgian national) death, the centre of political power and influence shifted to the Ukrainian Communist Party.

In any case, when blaming USSR for something, don't forget to spread the blame, and not shift it onto Russians as it is dictated by your current political agenda.

Now on to Georgian-Russian skirmish. Yes, it was in fact a minor skirmish, and not a war. Georgia invaded South Ossetia, where Russian peacekeepers were stationed. Said peacekeeping forces responded according to the prior agreements without requiring any additional mobilisation (as the case would be in a real war). Georgians (and among the offensive force there were quite a few Ukrainians that you see in the current extremist factions that took power in Ukraine) started shelling civilians. If Russia didn't interfere, you'd have the outcome that you see now in Novorossia. Once Russian forces drove Georgian army back to Tbilisi, they retreated, not staying/occupying Georgia (while this is standard military practise for USA: see Afghanistan, Iraq, etc). Which invalidates your last link/reference. There is no Russian intervention in Ukraine. If Russia interfered, you'd know that, because Russian military would be then seen in Kiev and beyond. As it is, because of the USA's pressure, Russia is staying out, only helping with humanitarian aid, and is helplessly watching the atrocities committed by US-backed Ukrainian nazis.

While on the topic of Georgia, here is an interesting political analysis:

Ukraine Part 6. Striking Geopolitical Similarities: Georgian War – Beijing2008 and Ukraine – Sochi2014
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2014/03/02/ukraine-part-6-striking-geopolitical-similarities-georgian-war-beijing2008-and-ukraine-sochi2014/


Also, you mention 6 cases over the last century (including Soviet period). How about USA, with over 50 invasions all over the world just post-WWII. I am sure Bryant Coleman would oblige with an updated list, but here's one in his earlier posts:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8828906

Oh, and about welcoming NATO. Georgia started to be friendly with Russia again, even prosecuting the US protege and hardened criminal Saakashvili, which prompted NATO chief of command urgently fly there and push a few buttons, give a few threats.

Yesterday, Uzbekistan and Russia made several economical and military agreements (and Russia completely wrote off Uzbeck debt). I wonder how long it will be before USA rushes there with a colour revolution.

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Now, back to the topic at hand. Some of the yesterday's news:

The government of Lugansk republic published numbers showing that 1500 residential houses were destroyed beyond repair by Kiev exterminators' artillery shelling.

Another Russian convoy of 40 trucks with humanitarian aid, carrying food, medicine, warm clothes returned from its mission to Novorossia. I think it is the 9th such convoy, a lifeline for the besieged population.

+ its peanuts compared to where the USA put their fucking army.  

in all of the above examples the social instability been caused by outside forces.

Read a few months back that Russia wouldn't be doing too well if crude oil went below $80 and look at the price now time for Putin to surrender. Exit Ukraine and call all the Kremlin trolls back to base in fantasy land.

The problem is not where nice Russian people put their beautiful country.

The problem is where the Kremlin puts the Russian Army.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_invasion_of_Georgia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Soviet_War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Pact_invasion_of_Czechoslovakia







and still today:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Russian_military_intervention_in_Ukraine

These are only a few of the reasons why the countries in galdur's funny picture welcome NATO with open arms and great relief.

Maybe it's a sign of your real personality... Have you ever thought about that?

Here´s the same infantryman with General Klamashnikov

putin. sound like. put in ass

You think ? 

C'mon, it's a clear fake propaganda shot! The shot was probably taken in a open air museum or during some kind of re-enactment. The tanks have their muzzle cover on; the "captured Ukrainian"'s BDU is not an Ukranian one and he/she is looking like an Asian guy/girl; etc.

Ukraine invasion: A Russian infantryman stands guard over

a captured Ukrainian Dec. 10th 2014