Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 94. (Read 734937 times)

LOL, it just shows the desperation, IQ is not a prerequisite in recruiting trolls for the Evil Empire of Bankrupt Western States.

just to help you increase your IQ: Russia feels more confident now so much so that it has stopped  adoption of Russian children in the US in retaliation for the hypocritical Magnitsky law. Everybody wants Russian kids because they are beautiful. Can't blame them.

 Well, if there are still some in Italy, it was probably because it thought Italy was friendly , Russia certainly is richer than Italy, but Russia understands that some countries want to improve their genes and they always need  blonde hairs. Russia can always deny them if they insist on becoming clowns like the bankrupt Americans though

lol

What ever anyone may think of the current Russian administration, Russian people born outside of Russia are still Russian... if they say so. And why should they be second hand citizens in a foreign country, if Europe was about respecting for once the will of the people there. if they want to be part of motherland Russia, who are we to tell them no? It doesn't change the fact that any nation taking an aggressive posture toward the Empire will have to face the consequences of their choices, and as such concept like defending foreign born patriots can't be a priority when said nation will have to face the Empire weight is quite a delusive move. You can have an independent political will, but don't dream to be able to back it up military against the Empire. One who ever you are, the gap between you and the Empire is so wide that you can't understand it. What you see as the other side is only decoy... 2 it will cost you too much, and it's in the best interest of the Empire too, to scale down... but you have to go first. It can be a free logical and rational choice, or the result of a terminal action of the Empire against your military industrial and societal structures. Love is the closest thing to hate, don't fight the Empire of Love unless you want to die, and maybe take everything your ancestors produce with it... Why? Because of technological developments, there is less risk in preventing annihilation than letting anyone scale the ladders of war, we know all path of where it leads. Peace is harder, Love is harder, remember you are wasting our limited time on Earth, with trivial endeavor as wars... since inception in 1776 to this day, as One Continuous Experience. Remember that the goal of the Empire of Love is to build a more perfect Union, however it's impossible to do it without peace, peace can't exist as long as others are planning to destroy the Empire with what ever mean of violence, from lone individual to foreign state, domestic rogue agency, or even competing inpersonificated empire. there is no will to improve your union, however what ever you chose to do, you have to understand that the realities of the Empire will prime over your consideration, due to your lack of awareness of reality. We can't work toward peaceful reintegration with nature and our inner selves if you are still conspiring - fomenting - warring. fold, capitulate, surrender and we may be merciful, don't, and learn the less part of it, again, scaled, digitalized and more.

 

The argument of Russia being a victim because was an occupied country remind me of the same argument used by the Austrian government & people to avoid WWII responsability after the Nazi's Third Reich defeat. They failed, by the while.
Playing the victim is more easy to an human being than to accept responsability for the results of their actions (or no-actions). We have a plenty of examples in the human history.

Just my 2 satoshi.

I read your post & I cannot laugh over a children being in need, period.  Looking at the graph I understand Russia has no children at all? However, I know a lot of friends adopted Russian children in need here in Italy; so, maybe Russia is so good at statistics because embellish them by exporting her children in need to foreign countries?

OK, TIME TO LAUGH!




In reading the propaganda of the Evil Empire of Bankrupt WEstern States, don't forget they rely on too much Hollywood Special Effects... They are busy pretending to be powerful so you can't see they are imploding into poverty. Shock & Awe, remember? Well, that is so passe. We are in a time when their Propaganda has become a banal comedy. You still get laughs though!!!

They can't make their current bankruptcy & unstoppable collapse go away with special effects, however!


 
  
 

 

Attackers burn office of Chechen rights group

Joint Mobile Group members say their office was torched after they criticised Kremlin-backed leader Ramzan Kadyrov

embers of a human rights groups active in Chechnya say their office has been torched after they criticised the Kremlin-backed Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov for calling for collective punishment against families of Muslim rebels.

The damage is serious. That was caused not by the fire but by vandalism.

Dmitry Utukin, rights group

"The damage (to the offices) is serious. All the equipment has been smashed. That was caused not by the fire but by vandalism," activist Dmitry Utukin of the Joint Mobile Group told AFP news agency on Sunday.

The attack on the rights group's office in Grozny on Saturday, followed arson attacks reported against eight homes linked to rebels'  families in the wake of a surprise raid on the Chechen capital on December 4.

On Sunday, paramilitary police also searched the apartment where two members of the rights group were staying, Utukin said.

"It's not very clear what is happening because their phones have been confiscated," Utukin said. "Our lawyer is going there."

The group's other staff members "are in a safe place", Utukin said.

It is the latest chapter in years of harassment and murder of human rights activists and journalists investigating torture, kidnapping and war crimes in Chechnya, where Russia has been fighting nationalist and armed rebels for 20 years.

Kadyrov's threat

Following the December 4 attack, Kadyrov, the authoritarian head of Chechnya's government, announced that relatives of any rebels should be exiled and their homes destroyed.

After Kadyrov's statement on his popular Instagram account, at least eight houses belonging to people related to the rebels were burnt down, according to a statement by Memorial, another rights group, this week.

Now violence has spread to human rights activists.

Igor Kalyapin, head of the Moscow-based Committee Against Torture, wrote on Facebook that before the fire at the Joint Mobile Group's offices on Saturday, two men had tried to break in.

Activists had also been followed by armed men, he said.

Tatiana Lokshina, the Russia programme director at Human Rights Watch, wrote on Facebook that the "Chechen leadership apparently decided to expel the Joint Mobile Group of human rights defenders from Chechnya -- along with relatives of insurgents."

Kalyapin has appealed to the Russian prosecutor-general to investigate Kadyrov's statement.

Kadyrov responded on Instagram last week that Kalyapin and other activists are defending "bandits" and suggested that Kalyapin was being used by "Western special services" to pay the rebels.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2014/12/attackers-burn-office-chechen-rights-group-2014121414349619337.html

NATO military is worthless, can´t even defeat tribesmen in Afghanistan.

Iraq, Lybia totally hopeless basket cases after the interventions.

So, I doubt that it´s urge for security that attracts NATO bases. Much

more likely is bribes and/or coercion.

And of course after blowing up things on a grand scale and shooting

up defenseless people the third thing the U.S. military excels at is

sitting on their asses in countless bases doing pretty much nothing.

It´s a business model.

And if Putin had tits, he'd be Angela Merkel.  So what?   

Regardless, how I personally differentiate or do not differentiate "between Russia and Soviet Union" is not important.

What is important is how the neighboring countries, oppressed by Russians from the Kremlin under both under Tsar and Bolshevik, differentiate or do not differentiate "between Russia and Soviet Union."

Looking at this map...


...it is clear Russia's neighbors reject your putative differentiation as a 'distinction without a difference' and crave the safety of NATO membership and bases.

ruSSian T-90 tank battalion 136th/63354 fought in battles at Luhansk airport









https://informnapalm.org/2358-rossyjskye-tanky-136-j-motostrelkovoj-brygade-v-luganskoj-oblasty-fotofakt

@OSCE smm observers stopped, threatened & beaten w/ weapons near Mariupol by 16 "DPR" soldiers

and i feel goooood.... =))))))))))

Yeah, that too. But the point of my hyperbole with Belgians was to show the absurdity of blaming a nation for something that is done by a supra-national organisation that happens to have headquarters in your country.

A passage from that article, which is very much applicable to Novorossia and Crimea, and how their national identity as part of the Russian nation determined what happened and what is happening:

We've been through this before. You and your comrades need therapy.

You hijacked yourselves with a victim mentality. And when the Soviet Union collapsed, the other half of the country felt like poor victims, somehow oppressed by the invisible Americans.

Forget about them, Belgium is just another Ukraine-like artificial state.

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2369

It seems that closing of airports of Dniepropetrovsk, Harkov and Zaporozhje and the airspace above them for civilian traffic is connected with US military transport planes landing there. 4 Herculeses loaded with sealed crates.

http://novorossia.su/ru/node/10962
http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2014/12/14/n_6741645.shtml



Seems that USA have decided to turn Ukraine into Vietnam 2.0 and to go the path of hot war. And not even wait for the ratification of "Order 66" by Obama.

Near Chuguev there were spotted about 50 fully-uniformed NATO soldiers from Poland, who reacted aggressively when locals tried to document their presence on mobile cameras.

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https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2014/12/11/ladas-geopolitical-primer-ukraine-as-heir-to-polands-cia-torture-prison-program-nuke-waste-shale-gas-gold/

You know there are a lot of people who are tired of those damned Belgians. Belgians stopped the South Stream project by sabotaging it. Currently the Belgians are driving German economy to ruin. This damned Belgian Angela Merkel is not hearing her own business circles in Germany. Oh, and Belgian Francois Hollande, despite the French best interests, killed its ship-building industry. Yes, Belgians are evil. Many Europeans are spreading the blame all over Brussels now.

Oh, and show me countries that are newly rushing to join NATO, where either a colour revolution or a substantial buying off of the politicians by US was not needed first.

Your statement is exactly the reason why you should differentiate between Russia and Soviet Union. Under Soviet Union, Russia was an occupied country, itself a victim. During coup d'etat of 1917 Russia was essentially hijacked, anyone who resisted killed off (much like today in Ukraine - anyone against forced Westernasation now falls victim of lustration), and the state and its structure destroyed. Russia (RSFSR) had the least say in running of USSR, and its territories were treated as private property of the USSR leaders, to be given away at a whim (Novorossia, South Ossetia, Crimea). If USSR's capital were in Kiev, would you be blaming Ukrainians, and if in Tbilisi, would Georgians be the bad guys today?

Where I "spread the blame" isn't important.  My "current political agenda" has nothing to so with this.

What matters is where countries harmed by the Kremlin spread the blame.  They spread it all over Red Square.

It's no surprise their current political agenda is to join NATO as soon as possible, all of your Russplaining notwithstanding.

Yeah... sure... And there is no dick in your ass... Not a single one...

You know, "Yah... sure..." doesn't exempt you from the need to provide evidence. So, provide your evidence or simply shut up.

Yah... sure... and no russian tanks in ukraine... not a single one...

 

China rejected the Russian Federation of settlements in rubles. This is not a currency and also not the money

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http://ehorussia.com/new/node/10202