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Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 98. (Read 734937 times)

legendary
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December 06, 2014, 05:46:15 PM
Well, the Russians can rectify that mistake by taking the eastern part

to the Dniepr. It´d be a cakewalk, the Ukrainian military is useless and

NATO is a paper tiger at best.

The problem/strong side with Russia (choose how you want to look at it), is that it still wants to do everything by the international law, that everything is completely legal. So a military invasion is completely out of question, even though Kiev and CIA are dreaming of such outcome.
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December 06, 2014, 05:40:42 PM
Well, the Russians can rectify that mistake by taking the eastern part

to the Dniepr. It´d be a cakewalk, the Ukrainian military is useless and

NATO is a paper tiger at best.
legendary
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December 06, 2014, 05:29:06 PM
Yep Nemo.

The main reason that U.S. "interventions" turn what they intervent with
to total shite and permanently hopeless basket cases (Iraq, Afghanistan, Lybia, Ukraine
Yemen etc, etc) is the Americans themselves have no history to speak of and therefore very
limited historical understanding.

I wanted to address this in more depth. What you say is only partially true.

If US had more presidents like JFK, or if Ron Paul wasn't cheated out of his presidency, then US' handling of the world affairs would have been far better.

Conversely, having a long history does not guarantee that a country does not make stupid moved. Case in point: Poland, which keeps on stepping on the same historical rake time and again.

First during the Time of Trouble (Smuta) during 1600s they installed a false king on the Russian throne (False Dmitrij/Lzhedmitrij). The result: count Minin and merchant Pozharskij raised a people's militia , marched on Moscow and drove Poles out. Minin and Pozharskij now have a memorial on the Red Square commemorating their heroic deed. (Interestingly, in parallel to today's events, foreign citizens fought on the side of Russian people back then as well, the forefather of the famous Russian poet Lermontov - Lermont - came to Russia during that time from Scotland. Also, there are parallels in today's heroic actions of Strelkov and Motorola, mastering people's militia, with what seems the ultimate goal of driving the outlandish usurpers from Kiev).

Then in 1810s, Polish general Sokolnitskij presented Napoleon with a business plan of conquering and dividing Russia between France and Poland. The result, Napoleon used Polish troops as front-line cannon fodder on the promise of Russian lands, and later this whole horde was driven all the way to Paris. To be fair, a number of Polish officers and squadrons fought on Russian side as well in those 1812 days. (Maybe today's French humiliation with Mistrals at the hand of the Poles is a twisted form of revenge for that)

Afterwards, after the disastrous for Russia October coup d'etat of 1917 (which bears similarities to the February 2014 coup in Kiev), Poles again saw their chance and during the civil war of 1918 the Polish intervention waltzed over the lands of today's Ukraine and came almost all the way to Moscow. The Red Army managed to stop the invasion and drive Poles all the way back to Warsaw.

It seems Poles are itching to step on the same rake yet again.

Russia also does a fair amount of mistakes, despite clear back-knowledge of the history. For example, it should have never pulled its cultural influence from Ukraine after 1992. If its presence remained, there would not be now a whole generation of Ukrainians raised on falsified history book, believing that Ukrainian is a separate ethnos and that Julius Ceaser was a Ukrainian.
legendary
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December 06, 2014, 05:07:33 PM
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"Not one bandit managed to get out," Mr Kadyrov later announced. "I directly ran the operation myself."
Excellent work! Not even one of IS indoctrinated pigs should be allowed to live.

And now Kadyrov ordered to initiate criminal investigation against 3 Ukrainian Rada deputies, who voiced their support and possibly connected with financing of the terrorist attack in Groznyj that cost 14 policemen lives. He ordered special forces to deliver them to Chechnya.  Cool

http://lenta.ru/news/2014/12/05/dostavit/


SBU opened today a case against Kadyrov. Cheesy Given that SBU is completely controlled by the terrorist organisation CIA (they even have both USA and Ukrainian flags on their HQ in Kiev), it is not surprising that Kadyrov's anti-terrorist, anti-IS statement made such a stir.

http://ria.ru/world/20141206/1036960456.html

In another step towards the non delivery of the Mistral, French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian declared today that there is a possiblity that France will never go throught with the delivery of the Mistral-class ships.

"We may never deliver [the Mistral ships]; the Russians have to realise this. It is impossible to consider the delivery under the tense conditions we [currently] find ourselves in" explained the Minister to BFMTV and RMC.

Full article: http://nomistralsforputin.com/drupal/?q=NoDelivery


i can assure you he's gonna have the mistrals.. Roll Eyes

Russia does not need those Mistrals, so if France does not deliver, so much better for Russia.
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December 06, 2014, 04:46:05 PM
Well, Kiev is at the Dniepr so i guess a bulge would be left

for Ukraine around those parts. Maybe.
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December 06, 2014, 04:40:31 PM
The Russians will annex the eastern part as they did Crimea,

It won´t be as easy for them but they´ll get it eventually.

East of the Dniepr would be good, this fully secures their access

to Crimea and Ukraine seems to be coming apart anyway.
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December 06, 2014, 04:21:26 PM
New Sharia law of Kremlin junta punishers in Chechnya

Кaдыpoв: poдcтвeнникoв бoeвикoв бyдyт выдвopять из Чeчни, a иx дoмa poвнять c зeмлeй

http://www.novayagazeta.ru/news/1689973.html

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December 06, 2014, 04:05:58 PM
^ the roof is on fire, we don't need water, let the motherfucker burn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbAqWA-dxvw
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legendary
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December 06, 2014, 03:31:25 PM
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December 06, 2014, 03:30:17 PM
Rubberstamp parliament in a two-part one-party state:


Act of Faith? Congressmen admit to not reading NDAA before voting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mX-3XYAM_4
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December 06, 2014, 12:14:16 PM
They have an option.

Obey Uncle Sam and fall on their swords

and lose Germany after which the rest of

the EU would probably soon disintegrate.

Fortunately those who are for this have about

zero weight. Germany will decide.
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December 06, 2014, 12:07:49 PM

THE EU IS STEPPING BACK FROM THE SANCTIONS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT


http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=uriserv:OJ.L_.2014.349.01.0020.01.ENG

A friend has read the document about 5x but he understood nothing so that may also be the case for most so I decided to help. The bankrupt EU has become a clown- the sanction was just part of its act of pretending it was still "powerful", so with the bankrupt US. The document appeared still hectoring but there were many amendments there which were clearly signs of stepping back but hidden in hectoring words- probably as test moves to see how their master, the bankrupt US, would react. But it's a sign they are breaking away...

oNE OF THEM IS THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENT:

‘:.   It shall be prohibited to directly or indirectly make or be part of any arrangement to make new loans or credit with a maturity exceeding 30 days to any legal person, entity or body referred to in paragraph 1 or 2, after 12 September 2014.


LOL, it was phrased in such a way as if it was prohibiting, but read closely- it was now actually allowing loans of 30 days  maturity. With the reported increase of Russian arms in Donbass (per propaganda by the Ukies & the CIA), they shouldn't be loosening but ramping up their sanctions, right? BUT THEY JUST DID!

It's obvious this is the just the first step.  Wink
(though this is just a delusion of the EU- who needs their loan anyway- it's as if their loans are still that critical in the new financial architecture of the world  Cheesy)


Look closely at the amendments: they created loopholes.

The competent authorities may also grant an authorisation where the sale, supply, transfer or export of the items is necessary for the urgent prevention or mitigation of an event likely to have a serious and significant impact on human health and safety or the environment.


In duly justified cases of emergency, the sale, supply, transfer or export may proceed without prior authorisation, provided that the exporter notifies the competent authority within five working days after the sale, supply, transfer or export has taken place, providing detail about the relevant justification for the sale, supply, transfer or export without prior authorisation.’


Many more, just read closely

 Wink

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December 06, 2014, 11:01:35 AM
In another step towards the non delivery of the Mistral, French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian declared today that there is a possiblity that France will never go throught with the delivery of the Mistral-class ships.

"We may never deliver [the Mistral ships]; the Russians have to realise this. It is impossible to consider the delivery under the tense conditions we [currently] find ourselves in" explained the Minister to BFMTV and RMC.

Full article: http://nomistralsforputin.com/drupal/?q=NoDelivery


The French are barking ? Yawn.

legendary
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December 06, 2014, 10:50:18 AM
In another step towards the non delivery of the Mistral, French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian declared today that there is a possiblity that France will never go throught with the delivery of the Mistral-class ships.

"We may never deliver [the Mistral ships]; the Russians have to realise this. It is impossible to consider the delivery under the tense conditions we [currently] find ourselves in" explained the Minister to BFMTV and RMC.

Full article: http://nomistralsforputin.com/drupal/?q=NoDelivery


i can assure you he's gonna have the mistrals.. Roll Eyes
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December 06, 2014, 09:51:37 AM
In another step towards the non delivery of the Mistral, French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian declared today that there is a possiblity that France will never go throught with the delivery of the Mistral-class ships.

"We may never deliver [the Mistral ships]; the Russians have to realise this. It is impossible to consider the delivery under the tense conditions we [currently] find ourselves in" explained the Minister to BFMTV and RMC.

Full article: http://nomistralsforputin.com/drupal/?q=NoDelivery
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December 06, 2014, 09:50:32 AM
In the US contracts are signed with an oil price of 35-40 dollars per barrel
But Putin's brilliant 2015 budget is based on.... 100$ a barrel.  Grin

http://m.liga.net/news/economics/213670-v_nu-yorke_zakluchaut_kontrakty_na_postavku_nefti_za_35-40_-_smi.htm
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